Ariane-6 Next Generation Launcher

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Ariane 6 designers say they'll beat SpaceX prices on per-kilogram basis

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октоген пишет:

Ariane 6 designers say they'll beat SpaceX prices on per-kilogram basis

Забористая трава выросла у них    

Они же честно признались, что в начале была цель предложить в 2 раза больше ПН за цену менее чем в 2 раза выше Фалкона 1.1. А потом пришел лесник и всех разогнал появился FT. Впереди еще 4 года и на горизонте Хэви, Раптор и б/у Фалконы по 43 млн...

The goal, as it was in the beginning, is to complete with Hawthorne, California-based SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket. "Ariane 6 will have twice the mass and twice the volume of the Falcon 9, at less than twice the price," Bonguet said. 
SpaceX's Falcon 9 Upgrade recently demonstrated its ability to carry a 5,300-kilogram telecommunications satellite to geostationary transfer orbit by stretching its capacity to the lim it.

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http://spacenews.com/airbus-safran-launchers-aims-for-the-discipline-of-the-flow-for-ariane-6-integration/

Airbus Safran Launchers aims for 'the discipline of the flow' in Ariane 6 integration
by Peter B. de Selding — April 7, 2016
 
The skyline of Europe's Guiana Space Center spaceport is likely to change when Ariane 6, to be horizontally integrated, replaces the vertically integrated Ariane 5 in 2023. Shown here is the 83-meter-tall Ariane 5 Final Assembly Building. Credit: CNES  
 
LES MUREAUX. France – Europe's rocket industry has gone 40 years by integrating its Ariane rockets vertically and then rolling them out by rail, upright, to the launch pad. That is about to end.
The historical practice has produced the Final Assembly Building at Europe's Guiana Space Center, an 83-meter-high steel structure.
But following a decision by Airbus Safran Launchers (ASL) and the European Space Agency, the future Ariane 6 rocket will be assembled horizontally as a cost-saving measure.
Patrick Bonguet, head of Ariane 6 development at ASL, described some of the benefits of the change on April 6 during a press briefing at ASL's facility here. Here are excerpts fr om his remarks.
"We are now in this mindset transformation, wh ere people don't now see all the benefits. For horizontal integration, the buildings are much more simple. There are no cranes and no hazardous moving operations. It also permits a good growth potential since it's the kind of building you can expand.
"But the main benefit from horizontal integration is that the process is better able to support people. With vertical operations, people are alone on their platform at 20, 50 or 60 meters high. Nobody sees them. If they have a problem they have to call someone, or to go down and look for equipment or documentation.
"With horizontal, everything is visible. The second main interest, which is not so obvious immediately, is that it allows the creation of a production flow through a moving line. This creates a sense of urgency in the production. You do not just stand there while there is a problem when you have several integration stands in parallel.
"When you have a problem on one stand, you work on another one and then do catch-up on the first one. This is the discipline of the flow. We expect this will result in direct savings, but also indirect savings by improving the way we work and the way we deal with quality issues, providing quicker support to the teams and driving the process improvement.
"I should add that we have decided not to bother our customers with this aspect, unlike some of our competitors. Customers don't much like having their spacecraft horizontal, then integrated onto the launcher and vibrating while going to the launch pad.
"They will be integrated as they are today – vertically. We put the fairing on them, and then at the last moment only are they put onto the launcher."

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Sylvie Rouat ‏@srouat1  2h ago

Chantier de construction du pas de tir d'Ariane 6

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Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  10 ч.10 часов назад  
Airbus Safran Launchers submits fixed-price proposal for Ariane 6 rocket development to ESA. Negotiations til Jun.
 

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Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  10 ч.10 часов назад  
Ruag Space wins Airbus Safran Launchers contract to design 20-mtr-long carbon-fiber Ariane 6 rocket fairing; 1st delivery for 2020 flight.

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какой то ариан-8 бездушный, похожий на дельту и японцев. вот 5й был оригинален, этакий титан с человеческим лицом

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Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  
ESA, DLR chiefs contract for Ariane 6 upper stage test facility at DLR's Lampoldshausen site. Ops to start in 2018..
 
  1:03 - 3 июн. 2016 г.  

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[Salo]

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/multimedia/publications/ESA-Bulletin-164/

LAUNCHERS EVOLUTION PREPARATION PROGRAMMES

Ongoing contributions are being made to the Launcher Evolution Element Working Group meetings, programme proposals, draft declarations and Tender Evaluation Boards. Microlauncher internal studies started, with the Future Launchers Preparatory Programme (FLPP) industrial prime contractor now identified. FLPP CRONUS aluminium/lithium tank technology has been selected for the Ariane 6 upper stage.

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Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  
CNES(2) signs EUR 200M ($222M) contract w/ Effage-led consortium for Ariane 6 launch site construction, delivery Oct 2018; 1st A6 late 2020.
  1:19 - 8 июл. 2016 г.

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http://spacenews.com/frances-cnes-backs-space-station-hedges-bets-on-reusable-rockets/

Will the Ariane 6 rocket be competitive with SpaceX?
France is leading European governments' financing of the future Ariane 6 rocket, whose design goal is to be able to develop and launch a rocket for one-half the cost of the current Ariane 5. Ariane 6 is scheduled to make its inaugural flight in late 2020.
With principal competitor SpaceX of Hawthorne, California, developing a reusable Falcon 9 first stage and predicting substantial cost reductions, some in Europe – Le Gall included – have questioned whether Ariane 6 will not arrive too late.
"It's clear that if Ariane 6 were operating today it would be very competitive," Le Gall said. "The question is whether the price cuts you see in the market now – not only at [SpaceX] but in Russia with either new lower-cost rockets or established rockets redesigned for lower-cost operations – will continue."
Le Gall said it was not yet clear whether reusable launch vehicles would achieve their goal of further cutting launch costs. He suggested there was no urgency in developing a reusable rocket, and that the current state of Ariane 6 development has given designers more confidence that it will meet its design-to-cost goals.
"Today, given the objectives for Ariane 6, it seems the vehicle will be well-placed in the market. And if there is a further series of cost cuts in the market we'll evaluate that when we see it," Le Gall said.
Longer term, CNES has proposed to ESA a liquid oxygen/liquid methane engine called Prometheus, designed to cost one-tenth of the Ariane 5's Vulcain main-stage engine.
ESA Launcher Director Gaele Winters said the agency will propose to its governments in December a development program based on Prometheus.
CNES officials have said they are working with the German and Italian space agencies to craft a four-year, 125-million-euro Prometheus development that would end with a small demonstrator, called Callisto, in 2020.
For Ariane 6, CNES on July 8 signed a contract valued at 200 million euros with an industrial consortium led by France's Eiffage construction and engineering company for the Ariane 6 launch site's buildings.
The site is at Europe's Guiana Space Center spaceport on the northeast coast of South America next to existing Ariane 5, Soyuz and small-satellite-launch Vega facilities.
The Eiffage-led consortium, called Eclair6, includes Eiffage's Clemessy, SHE of Germany, Axima of France and ICOP of Italy.
The consortium has committed to completing by October 2018 the Ariane 6 launch pad and its two flame trenches, and the 90-meter-high, 6-million-kilogram mobile service gantry and the launcher assembly building.
CNES is under a 600-million-euro contract with ESA for the entire Ariane 6 launch installation. Jean-Marc Astorg, CNES's director of launchers, said the remaining 400 million euros would be spent on the Ariane 6 launch pad and the site's mechanical, electrical and fluid installations.

Selling CNES's Arianespace stake to Airbus Safran Launchers
CNES has agreed to sell its 35 percent stake in the Arianespace commercial launch consortium to Airbus Safran Launchers, the Ariane 5 and Ariane 6 prime contractor, for 150 million euros.
The sale has been put on hold pending a European Commission inquiry into whether Airbus Safran Launchers' control of Arianespace would result in anti-competitive discrimination against satellites not built by Airbus Defence and Space, and whether Arianespace's minority shareholders would be protected.
Le Gall expressed frustration with the slowness of the European Commission inquiry, now extended to mid-August, but said he had little doubt that the sale would be approved. Once the commission issues its ruling, he said, the formal sale of the CNES shares would occur "in a matter of weeks."

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тему по Ариан 5 не нашёл, пусть будет в Ариан 6.

[che wi]

Сергио пишет:
тему по Ариан 5 не нашёл

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum13/topic2949/

[che wi]

https://twitter.com/ASLaunchers/status/761108180784984066

[Дмитрий В.]

che wi пишет:


 https://twitter.com/ASLaunchers/status/761108180784984066

"Пятёрка" - самая симпатичная.

[Leonar]

Дмитрий В. пишет:
"Пятёрка" - самая симпатичная

[Дмитрий В.]

Leonar пишет:

Дмитрий В. пишет:
"Пятёрка" - самая симпатичная

А вот "это" - гуано.

[Leonar]

Дмитрий В. пишет:

Leonar пишет:

Дмитрий В. пишет:
"Пятёрка" - самая симпатичная

А вот "это" - гуано.

Тоже так считаю, но выглядит так же :-)

[Дмитрий В.]

Leonar пишет: 
Тоже так считаю, но выглядит так же :-)

"Отнюдь"! Энергия-М - это гоблин ракетного мира, а Ариан-5 - очень пропорциональная ракета.