Китайская космическая станция

[SpaceR]

50000 фунтов это 24947 кг, в то время как МАХ грузоподьэмность CZ-5 25000 кг. (LEO) :idea: Тщательнее надо :!:

Это уж точно!  
 :wink:

[Liss]

50000 фунтов это 24947 кг, в то время как МАХ грузоподьэмность CZ-5 25000 кг. (LEO) :idea: Тщательнее надо :!:

50000 фунтов всю жизнь было 22680 кг, а то, что написано, это 55000 фунтов.

[frigate]

50000 фунтов это 24947 кг, в то время как МАХ грузоподьэмность CZ-5 25000 кг. (LEO) :idea: Тщательнее надо :!:

50000 фунтов всю жизнь было 22680 кг, а то, что написано, это 55000 фунтов.

Да, вы правы 22679.6185 кг, видимо сгоряча не тот калькулятор открыт был.  :oops:

[ronatu]

"...Правительственная делегация из КНР посетила ГКНПЦ им. М.В.Хруничева. У Китая большие планы в освоении космоса: строительство своей орбитальной станции по образу и подобию комплекса "Мир". ..."

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=220136&cid=1

[frigate]

"...Правительственная делегация из КНР посетила ГКНПЦ им. М.В.Хруничева. У Китая большие планы в освоении космоса: строительство своей орбитальной станции по образу и подобию комплекса "Мир". ..."

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=220136&cid=1

02 ноября 2008 г.

[Космос-3794]

Китайцы разоткровенничались:

A top Chinese space official shared new details of an ambitious human spaceflight agenda that includes plans to conduct on-orbit rendezvous and docking experiments and development of a new heavy-lift launch vehicle in preparation for assembling a 30-ton space station on orbit by 2022.

Wang Wenbao, director of the China Manned Space Engineering Office, said the effort would begin with the launch of a Tiangong 1 docking-target spacecraft slated for early 2011.

"According to our schedule, we will launch Tiangong 1 target spacecraft in the first half of 2011 and then the Shenzhou 8 spacecraft in the second half of 2011 to carry out China's first docking and rendezvous of spacecraft in orbit," Wang told an audience of government and industry officials at the 26th National Space Symposium here April 14.

Wang said in addition to serving as a platform for autonomous rendezvous and docking experiments, Tiangong 1 would form the basis of a "simple space laboratory" on orbit, conducting additional rendezvous and docking maneuvers with China's Shenzhou 9 and 10 spacecraft in 2012.

Launch of the Tiangong 2 and Tiangong 3 space labs would follow, using crewed missions to conduct additional rendezvous and docking experiments with the space labs as well as regenerative life support and cargo supply experiments, Wang said.

"Between 2014 to 2016, we are planning to launch the Tiangong 3 space lab, two manned spacecraft and one cargo spacecraft to have docking and rendezvous with the target spacecraft in orbit and to carry out regenerative life support technology experiments as well as the space cargo supply experiments," he said.

Wang said the 3.35-meter diameter space lab would weigh about 8.5 tons and have two sections.

"One is the experiments module, the other is the resource module, and the space lab will have the capability of in-orbit refueling of the hosting of fuel," Wang said, adding that the space lab would operate at 400 kilometers with an inclination of 42 to 43 degrees relative to the equator.

Wang said the spacecraft and space labs would be launched on Long March 2F rockets.

From 2016 to 2022, China is planning to construct a 30-ton space station consisting of three pressurized modules to be launched on China's heavy-lift rocket currently in development. Wang said the station will operate at 340 to 450 kilometers above the Earth at an inclination of 42 to 43 degrees.

"The crew members will be three, and the astronauts can stay in the station for long term to carry out in-space application experiments of a larger scale," he said, adding that the station's service life would be about 10 years.

http://www.spacenews.com/civil/100414-path-china-space-station.html

И еще дополнительно:

"For Shenzhou 9 to be manned or unmanned depends on Shenzhou 8," Wenbao told SPACE.com.
The second module of the Chinese space station, Tiangong 2, is set to debut during a 2013 liftoff. Tiangong 3 will follow sometime in 2014 to 2016.
To supply this orbiting laboratory, China is developing a cargo-carrying spacecraft that will hold no less than 5.5 tons (5,000 kg), Wenbao said. That's about twice as much cargo capacity as Russia's Progress unmanned spacecraft, which currently services the International Space Station (ISS), and a little less than the Japanese H-II Transfer Vehicle (HTV), which also flies to the ISS.
"Our cargo spacecraft will be developed on the basis of our manned spacecraft and space lab," Wenbao said.

http://www.space.com/news/china-prepares-for-space-station-100415.html

[SpaceR]

"To supply this orbiting laboratory, China is developing a cargo-carrying spacecraft that will hold no less than 5.5 tons (5,000 kg), Wenbao said. That's about twice as much cargo capacity as Russia's Progress unmanned spacecraft, which currently services the International Space Station (ISS), and a little less than the Japanese H-II Transfer Vehicle (HTV), which also flies to the ISS.
"Our cargo spacecraft will be developed on the basis of our manned spacecraft and space lab," Wenbao said.

http://www.space.com/news/china-prepares-for-space-station-100415.html

Гонки космических грузовиков продолжаются.
Как я понимаю, это уже пятый грузовой корабль для снабжения ОС (а с системой "Паром" даже 6-й, но с ней пока неясно), разрабатываемый в этом веке и на серьёзном уровне.
Ждём "индийского Прогресса"?

З.Ы. Liss, картинки (в моей "Опере") почему-то не показывает. Посмотрел через другой браузер.

[Lev]

Ну, вполне логично - имея пилотируемый корабль и проектируя ОС, разработать для снабжения ОС автоматический грузовик.

[SpaceR]

Ну, вполне логично - имея пилотируемый корабль и проектируя ОС, разработать для снабжения ОС автоматический грузовик.

С одной стороны - как бы да, но с другой - я надеялся, что китайцам благодаря более грузоподъёмной РН всё же удастся совместить в одном Шэнь Чжоу функции и ПТК, и ТГК.
Кстати, емнип, так они изначально и заявляли.

Мне такой путь представляется существенно более экономичным и при этом достаточно рациональным - им в первых полетах ограниченной длительности и ограниченного ресурса Тяньгунов много расходных не понадобится, а поднятие орбиты тот же ПТК своим движком обеспечит. В крайнем случае - движки с баками и у Тяньгуна есть.

[Agent]

на насаспейсфлайте про китайцев
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/06/china-launches-beidou-2-station-lunar-plans-outlined/

Chinese Space Station and Lunar ambitions:

China is also gearing up for two important missions: the launch of Chang'e-2 next October and the launch of TG-1 TianGong-1 space module at the beginning of next year. TiangGong-1 is expected to accomplish the country's first space docking and is regarded as an essential step toward building a space station, according to Qi Faren, former chief designer of Shenzhou spaceships.

Weighing about 8,500 kg, TianGong-1 will be able to perform long-term autonomous operations, which will be an essential step toward building a space station.

The unmanned Shenzhou-8 spacecraft will aim to achieve China's first space docking, with docking maneuvers controlled from the ground. Later Shenzhou-9 and Shenzhou-10 – the two other spaceships to dock with Tiangong-1 – are set to carry a crew of two or three.

With the launch and docking of TG-1 and SZ-8, China is able developed one of the most sophisticated space technologies – as it requires precise controlling of two high-speed spacecraft which meet and dock in space, together with other technologies like replenishment of propellant, air, water and food as well as a regenerating life guarantee system for the space module.

TG-1 TianGong-1 is going to be launched by a modified CZ-2F Chang Zheng-2F launch vehicle sometimes referred as CZ-2F/G Chang Zheng-2F/G, that has 170 technological modifications, including 38 major ones.

Meanwhile, China is advancing on the development of the CZ-5 Chang Zheng-5 series of launch vehicle, with the building of a launch vehicle production base in the northern municipality of Tianjin. According to official sources, this development has a total investment of 10 billion yuan and covers an area of more than one million square meters.

The base will be capable of producing 12 launch vehicles a year. After the first phase of construction is completed in 2011, the base will be able to produce two launch vehicles. Earlier reports point to the first launch of the CZ-5, with a maximum payload capacity of up to 25,000 kg, in 2014.

Recent news notes China's second lunar probe will be ready to fly next October. According to Wu Yansheng, deputy general manger of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) talking at the Global Lunar Conference held in Beijing, "...the development of the carrier rocket and the satellite is complete..." and the specialists "...have started to conduct tests on their performance."

Chang'e-2, that starts Phase II of China lunar exploration, will orbit the Moon at 100 km altitude for collecting data for the soft-landing of Chang'e-3. The probe will be equipped with a high-resolution camera that is capable of spotting lunar surface features as small as three feet across. Chang'e-1, launched on October 24, 2007 only had a resolution of 120 meters.

Also involved with Phase II are the launches of Chang'e-3 and Chang'e-4, two probes that will land on the Moon. Starting on 2017, the Phase III will see the launch of Chang'e-5 and Chang'e-6, that will return samples from the lunar surface.

[ronatu]

на насаспейсфлайте про китайцев
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/06/china-launches-beidou-2-station-lunar-plans-outlined/


.....Meanwhile, China is advancing on the development of the CZ-5 Chang Zheng-5 series of launch vehicle, with the building of a launch vehicle production base in the northern municipality of Tianjin. .....

The base will be capable of producing 12 launch vehicles a year.
....the first launch of the CZ-5, with a maximum payload capacity of up to 25,000 kg, in 2014.

....second lunar probe will be ready to fly next October. ...the development of the carrier rocket and the satellite is complete..." and the specialists "...have started to conduct tests on their performance."

Chang'e-2, that starts Phase II of China lunar exploration, will orbit the Moon at 100 km altitude for collecting data for the soft-landing of Chang'e-3. The probe will be equipped with a high-resolution camera that is capable of spotting lunar surface features as small as three feet across (91.5см_РТ).

Also involved with Phase II are the launches of Chang'e-3 and Chang'e-4, two probes that will land on the Moon. Starting on 2017, the Phase III will see the launch of Chang'e-5 and Chang'e-6, that will return samples from the lunar surface.

[Старый]

А система стыковки у них своя или опять наш Курс?

[ronatu]

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1008/18tiangong/

...The nearly 19,000-pound spacecraft will launch on a Long March 2F rocket sometime next year, setting the stage for a series of automated and crewed dockings in 2011 and 2012.

Xinhua reported the Long March booster is currently being tested.

Tiangong means heavenly palace in English.

The Shenzhou 8 spacecraft is being readied to launch in the second half of 2011, when it will rendezvous and dock with the Tiangong 1 module in orbit.
...

[Гуманоид]

О! манипулятором будут ловить?  

[ronatu]

О! манипулятором будут ловить?  

Более правдоподобный рисунок:



http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_Finishes_Construction_Of_First_Unmanned_Space_Module_999.html

[Гуманоид]

А тут какой-то провод/канат между ними  

[Shestoper]

Китайцы маленькие, но даже им внутри будет тесновато

[Гуманоид]

Ничего, они привыкшие )

[vissarion]

Китайцы маленькие, но даже им внутри будет тесновато

Кстати, китайцы - здоровые лбы по 100 кг весом. А вот японцы - да, маленькие. Попрошу не путать.

[Liss]

А система стыковки у них своя или опять наш Курс?

http://www.itar-tass.com/level2.html?NewsID=15329630&PageNum=0

Особая гордость корпорации - производимый здесь корпус стыковочного агрегата. По словам генерального конструктора "Энергии", еще год назад этот корпус собирался практически вручную в течение 8,5 месяцев, сейчас, благодаря уникальным технологиям, это возможно сделать менее чем за месяц. Как пояснил руководитель Федерального космического агентства Анатолий Перминов, эту технологию Россия продает американским, европейским и китайским партнерам.