SpaceX Falcon 9

[Salo]

Формально только пятьдесят.

[Salo]

Max Andriyahov пишет:
Salo ,

Мышек то можно и Союзом довезти

а обратно? трупиками в капсуле?

Почему трупиками?

[Василий Ратников]

мышиный домик он довольно здоровый

http://spaceflight101.com/iss/wp-content/uploads/sites/37/2015/09/3782388_orig.jpg

[Salo]

Дык везут не домик, а transportation cage, тобишь клетку на 12 мышей.

[Max Andriyahov]

Salo, потому что пилотируемые рейсы редкие, могут недотянуть

[triage]

Мыши сейчас кажется обратно прилетают трупиками.  http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/1209.html

Спойлер

Facility Operations
Houses up to 10 mice for up to 30 days per unit and additional testing in work to increase this to up to 90 days
Units can be used serially to extend duration of experiment.
The crew transfers the mice from the Transporter to the Habitats shortly after docking with the ISS.
The crew conducts experiment-specific operations in accordance with the Principal Investigator's requirements.
These operations will include:
Dissections
Tissue preservation
Blood collection and centrifugation
Bone densitometry.
At the end of all experiment operations, the hardware and samples are packed for return.
The samples are turned over to the Principal Investigators after splashdown, and the hardware is refurbished for use on another flight.

[свернуть]

Эксперименты с мышами доставляемыми Драконами проходят под названием Rodent Research -1, -2, 3.... 

Выдержки из дневниковых записей на https://blogs.nasa.gov/stationreport/author/cosbourn/ (часть)
там даже пишут о участии Российской стороны в эксперименте

Спойлер

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/24/16
Rodent Research (RR-3) Inventory Audit: The crew continued auditing the remaining RR-3 equipment and supplies. The audit follows the completion of RR-3 operations last week.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/23/16
Rodent Research (RR-3) Audit and Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG) Cleanup: Following the completion of RR-3 operations last week, the crew audited the remaining RR-3 equipment and supplies. They also removed the hardware and cleaned the Life Science Ancillary Hardware (LSAH) in the Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG).

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/20/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Operations: The crew completed operations on 5 more rodents, performing bone densitometry measurements, then transferring the rodents to the Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG) for sample processing. Today's operations conclude this session of RR activities. The next activities are tentatively planned following SpaceX-10 arrival.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/19/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Operations: The crew has completed operations on 15 rodents. They are scheduled to perform operations on 5 rodents today and 5 more tomorrow which will conclude this session of RR activities. The crew will perform bone densitometry measurements and then transfer the rodents to the Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG) for sample processing.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/18/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Operations: Yesterday the crew completed operations on 5 rodents. They performed operations on 5 more rodents today and are scheduled for 5 each day for the remainder of the week.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/17/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Operations: Following yesterday's successful grip strength measurements, today the crew transferred rodents from their habitats to the Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG), and then performed Bone Densitometry measurements and sample processing.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/16/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Transfer and Grip Strength Operations: The crew transferred rodents from their habitats to the Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG) and successfully performed grip strength measurements on all 20 rodents. The crew also installed hardware and restocked supplies in the MSG to prepare for other RR-3 operations planned for the remainder of the week.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/12/16
Rodent Research 3 (RR-3) CASIS: In preparation for next week's RR-3 operations, crewmembers referenced the RR-3 Grip Strength, Bone Scan, and other required documentation before participating in a conference with the payload developer. They also gathered hardware to configure the Grip Strength equipment in the Microgravity Sciences Glovebox (MSG).

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/10/16
SpX-8 Dragon Departure Prep: Today, the crew completed Dragon packing, egress and closed its hatch.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/09/16
Rodent Research 3 CASIS: Crewmembers inspected and restocked the habitats with water, and with Food Bars retrieved from the Minus Eighty Degree Laboratory Freezer for ISS (MELFI).

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/06/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Bone Densitometer Scans: Following the completion of ten bone densitometer scans earlier this week, the crew transferred the rodents from the habitats, configured Ultrasound 2, and have conducted the remaining ten bone densitometer scans with support from ground teams. This is the final of three planned sessions this week to study the molecular and physical changes to the musculoskeletal system that happen in space. Results will expand scientists' understanding of muscle atrophy and bone loss in space while testing an antibody that has been known to prevent muscle wasting in mice on Earth.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/04/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Transfer and Bone Densitometer Scans: Following yesterday's grip strength operations, today the crew transferred the rodents from their habitats, configured Ultrasound 2, and performed bone densitometer scans with support from ground teams.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 05/03/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Transfer and Grip Strength Operations: The crew transferred rodents from their habitats to the Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG) and completed grip strength measurements. Operations were completed ahead of schedule and was the first time on-orbit use of the Grip Meter. This was the first of three RR-3 sessions conducted this week that will study the molecular and physical changes to the musculoskeletal system that happen in space.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/26/16
Rodent Research 3 (RR-3) Operations: The RR-3 access units were inspected with no issues and restocked with food bars.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/20/16
Rodent Research 3 (RR-3) CASIS Injections: Crewmembers transferred animals to and from the Rodent Habitat and the Micro-Gravity Science Glovebox (MSG) and completed the first day of RR-3 operations.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/19/16
Rodent Research 3 CASIS Injection Review: In preparation for upcoming RR-3 operations, crewmembers reviewed the Standalone Subcutaneous Injection material, discussed operations with the payload developer, and gathered hardware in preparation for the injection session this week.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/13/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Transporter Stow: Following yesterday's successful rodent transfer from Dragon to the ISS, Skripochka reviewed the Transporter Stow procedure before inspecting and powering down the Access Unit and stowing the Transporter in the LAB. Elevated temperatures were reported for Habitats 1 and 3 but not high enough to warrant action by the crew. After the ground support team shut down the internal lights and cameras in order to reduce the heat load, the temperatures stabilized and the status will be monitored overnight. RR-3 is a Joint USOS Russian Experiment performed with both USOS and Russian crew members.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/12/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Transfer: Kopra and Peake set up the rodent habitats, moved the transporters from SpX-8 to the US Lab, and transferred the animals to the habitats. RR-3 is a Joint USOS Russian Experiment performed with both USOS and Russian crew members.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/11/16
SpaceX (SpX)-8 Launch, Capture and Berth: SpX-8 launched successfully at 3:43 PM CDT Friday. Capture and berthing to the Node 2 nadir port occurred on Sunday at 6:24 AM CDT, and berthing occurred approximately 3 hours later.
Rodent Research 3 (RR-3) Transfer Review: Kopra and Peake reviewed RR-3 Animal Transfer reference material and discussed operations with the payload developer in preparation for tomorrow's transfer of the animals from the transporter to the habitat.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/7/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) Life Science Hardware Setup in Microgravity Science Glovebox (MSG): In preparation for RR-3 operations, Kopra installed the life science filters, floor coverings, back plate, and other required equipment in the MSG. He also set up a camcorder to capture High Definition cabin video of the operations. RR-3 is a Joint USOS Experiment (JUE) performed with both USOS and Russian crew members and studies molecular and physical changes in the musculoskeletal system that happen in space.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 04/5/16
Rodent Research-3 (RR-3) EXpedite the PRocessing of Experiments to Space Station EXPRESS Rack and Habitat Familiarization: Kopra and Skripochka reviewed training material for the EXPRESS Rack and Habitats in preparation for upcoming RR-3 operations. RR-3 is a Joint USOS Experiment (JUE) performed with both USOS and Russian crew members.

ISS Daily Summary Report – 03/28/16
Rodent Research 3 Eli Lilly (RR-3) Gather: Williams gathered and organized consumables needed for RR-3 operations which will occur in three blocks of time. Items were gathered to maximize efficiency for each of those time periods.

[свернуть]

На рисунке у Salo это установка в Kibo.

А тут  http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/rodent_research_complete

The Rodent Research Hardware System includes three modules: (left) habitat, (center) transporter, and (right) animal access unit

и для представления размеров на 3:28 (далее есть еще интересные кадры)


На канале Jaxa раз мельком видел кадры монтажа этой установки микрогравитации, но запустили или нет...

[Salo]

Max Andriyahov пишет:
Salo , потому что пилотируемые рейсы редкие, могут недотянуть

Ну дык и Драгоны нечастые и к тому же крайне нерегулярные.

[Max Andriyahov]

pnetmon, ок спасибо! Сейчас почитаю, у меня английский на обе ноги хромает.

[vlad7308]

Salo пишет:

Max Andriyahov пишет:
Salo , потому что пилотируемые рейсы редкие, могут недотянуть

Ну дык и Драгоны нечастые и к тому же крайне нерегулярные.  

Дракон прилетает и через месяц улетает. Что привез, то может и увезти обратно.

[Max Andriyahov]

В общем "мамы всякие нужны, мамы всякие важны!" - каждому грузовику своё и это вполне оправдывает "разношёрстность" КК. Ладно, это оффтоп в этой ветке, ждем запуск Тайком 8 и посадку. Прожиг прошел штатно.

*заготовил попкорн.

[Max Andriyahov]

Традиционно - перенос на сутки) Лишь бы погода не испортилась, т-т-т....

[Max Andriyahov]

Конспирологии вам в ленту:

"...На фото хорошо видны два двигателя первой ступени, причём левый (отмечен стрелкой) заметно отличается от правого. Его сопло темнее, оно не блестит, и отчётливо видны светлые вертикальные полоски. Моё предположение – это «подержанный» двигатель с одной из возвращённых ступеней. Это объясняет тёмный цвет и матовую поверхность. А светлые полосы – это термочувствительная эмаль, нанесённая для детального мониторинга возможного перегрева.
Похоже, что SpaceX собирается вводить повторное использование «по частям» – как в дифференциальных уравнениях. Ну, или – совмещать приятное с полезным. То есть, эксперименты (приятное) и рутинный бизнес (полезное)."

http://smoliarm.livejournal.com/263446.html

[Apollo13]

Max Andriyahov пишет:
Конспирологии вам в ленту:

О еще кто-то открыл для себя reddit

[Max Andriyahov]

Apollo13, у меня ангельский хромает, я туда не хожу)) жду пока вот переведут)))

[Max Andriyahov]

[USER=16811]Apollo13[/USER], инстаграмм фото - это инконель на покрытии?

[Max Andriyahov]

Йееххааааа!

[Salo]

Max Andriyahov пишет:
Йееххааааа!

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum12/topic15361/?PAGEN_1=13

[Сергей]

Deflang пишет:
На самом деле, есть еще варианты объяснения:

1. В этот раз использовали более 3х двигателей.
2. Использовали форсирование тяги (в пределах, заявленных на сайте)

Первый суммарный импульс торможения увеличен (ИМХО), скорость входа  уменьшена.

[Max Andriyahov]

Salo,  ага)

[Искандер]

Всё же насколько Falcon удобная РН для отработки посадки... Нужно 3 двигателя? Пожалуйста. 4? Нет вопросов, хоть все 9.
Вспомните, все начиналось с попыток парашютной посадки первой ступени. Как SpaceX продвинулась за эти годы...