Dragon CRS1, Orbcomm 2G=Falcon 9 v1.0 - Canaveral SLC-40 - 08.10.12 00:35 UTC

[Not]

Т.е. пилотируемые Драконы Боинги и Орионы полетяте раньше 2018.

Позже 2017 != раньше 2018

[ronatu]

Ну мужики вы даете - один флуд в 4-х темах одновременно.

:wink:

4-х?? :shock:

[Salo]

September 17 - Soyuz TMA-04M undocking (from Poisk) and landing [Padalka, Revin, Acaba]
September 23 - ATV-3 "Edoardo Amaldi" undocking (from Zvezda)
October 5 - Dragon (SpX-1) launch
October 7 - Dragon (SpX-1) capture and berthing (to Harmony nadir) by SSRMS
October 15 - Soyuz TMA-06M launch [Novitskiy, Tarelkin, Ford]
October 17 - Soyuz TMA-06M docking (to Poisk)
November 1 - Progress M-17M launch
November 3 - Progress M-17M docking (to Zvezda)
November 7 - Dragon (SpX-1) unberthing (from Harmony nadir), release by SSRMS and landing
November 12 - Soyuz TMA-05M undocking (from Rassvet) and landing [Malenchenko, S.Williams, Hoshide]
December 5 - Soyuz TMA-07M launch [Romanenko, Hadfield, Marshburn]
December 7 - Soyuz TMA-07M docking (to Rassvet)
December 25 - Progress M-16M undocking (from Pirs)
December 26 - Progress M-18M launch
December 28 - Progress M-18M docking (to Pirs)

На момент старта F9 в экипаже МКС будет три человека и только один астронавт НАСА.

Вторая половина октября, или начало ноября кажутся более вероятными.

[anik]

Астронавт Майкл Бейкер подтвердил сегодня, что старт намечается на 5 октября.

[Salo]

Хощидэ будет ассистировать Уильямс?

[anik]

Хощидэ будет ассистировать Уильямс?

Пока не знаю, но вот при "ловле" HTV-3 Хосиде будет помогать Акабе.

[Salo]

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29130.msg942403#msg942403

Realistically, for a launch on the stated date in October, when do we have to see a capsule at the Cape?

Probable processing steps: (min days: max days)

1) Dragon checkout. (7 days: 14days)
2) Pack with storable items. (2 days: 5 days)
3) Mate to Trunk. (1 day: 2 days)
4) Checkout mate. (2 days: 5 days)
5) Mate to F9. (1 day: 2 days)
6) Checkout complete stack. (2 days: 5 days)
7) Move to pad for hot-fire test. ( 2 days: 7 days)
7) Complete packing of Dragon with moderately time sensitive items. (1 day: 2 days)
8 ) Fuel Dragon. (1 day: 3 days)
9) Move F9 stack to pad for launch. (1 hour: 3 hours)
10) Late load of final cargo. (2 hours: 5 hours)
11) Erect F9 stack. (1 hour: 2 hours)
12) Launch. (12 hours: 10 days)

Min – 20 days
Max – 46 days + 10 days for launch due to scrubs
Note: times are estimates only to show what needs to be done and approximate durations to accomplish.

On Dragon arrival, I would say no later than the 1st week in Sept but I would expect last week in Aug, and the Trunk not more than a week later.

For schedule padding for processing problems I would expect arrival this week.

[Boo]

Итого можно по 6-18 пусков в год. У них столько свободных F9 не наберётся...

[Salo]

Пока что я вижу обещания уложиться в пять месяцев. Вот ближе к октябрю и поглядим.

[Salo]

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/08/nasa-safety-panel-satisfied-spacex-anomaly-resolution-team/

NASA safety panel now satisfied with SpaceX anomaly resolution team[/size]
August 15th, 2012 by Chris Bergin

NASA's Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel (ASAP) have gone on record to say they are satisfied with SpaceX's explanations, relating to their "fast" scrub turnaround for Falcon 92s May launch. After claiming they were initially concerned with the pace of the turnaround, the ASAP members were reassured via overviews provided to them by NASA and SpaceX's Mission Assurance manager.

ASAP and SpaceX:

This latest meeting of the ASAP was once again chaired by Vice Admiral Joseph W. Dyer, USN (Ret.), and held at the Kennedy Space Center (KSC) near to the end of last month. Their findings and recommendations were passed on to NASA administrator Charlie Bolden – for his consideration – on August 8.

The VADM opened the meeting with praise for KSC Center Director, Robert Cabana, thanking him for "shepherding" his organization through "a very challenging time", before adding KSC's progress during its transition "is better than the Panel could have hoped for," thanks to the institution's leadership.

The ASAP were an active force in the drive to end the life of the Space Shuttle fleet, and were meeting at KSC just as Endeavour is being put through the final preparations to leave her home base for a retirement in California, an event that will leave the famous spaceport with just one remaining orbiter for the first time in close to 30 years.

The Panel also spent some of their energy over recent years urging caution with respect to the commercial space program, most notably on the commercial crew future that is tasked with returning a domestic ability for the United States to launch its own astronauts – a capability lost via the retirement of the Space Shuttle fleet.

However, the panel members have softened their stance towards NASA's commercial partners recently, opting to praise SpaceX on their recent – and highly successful – C2+ mission, albeit with the inclusion of a few side notes of caution, with the previous meeting at the Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) citing "a few successes" should not detract from pushing commercial companies through NASA's strict certification requirements for upcoming crewed missions.

Notes from the latest meeting also included special attention for SpaceX, this time examining the short scrub turnaround between a pad abort for Falcon 92s opening attempt to launch Dragon on its debut mission to the International Space Station (ISS), and the successful launch that followed just a few days later.

The opening attempt was scrubbed – just seconds prior to launch - due to the breach of redline limits by Engine 52s chamber pressure readings on the Falcon 9, causing the flight computers to abort the launch. Due to the near-instant launch window for this mission, a scrub was called for the day.

A similar, but not identical, issue was observed with the first flight of the Falcon 9 – an issue that was resolved ahead of launch due to an extended launch window for that opportunity.

After the Falcon 9 was detanked, engineers arrived at the pad to inspect the engine – specifically the chamber hardware – and soon found an obvious problem with a check valve on the engine's turbopump.

"Engine pressure anomaly traced to turbopump valve," noted SpaceX CEO and Chief Designer Elon Musk at the time. "Replacing on engine 5 and verifying no common mode."

With the vehicle rolled back to the hanger for repairs, SpaceX engineers fixed the hardware on the Saturday night and reviewed the data the following day, allowing for the Falcon 9 to be rolled back out to the pad and returned to a launch stance by the Monday.

The Falcon 9 was successfully launched at 3:44am Eastern on the Tuesday morning.

While a large amount of data is restricted, the panel felt they could discuss the check valve issue, due to the root cause being released into the public domain by SpaceX. To that end, the panel heard from SpaceX's Director of Mission Assurance, Scott Henderson and were briefed by an internal NASA report on the scrub turnaround procedures.

"VADM Dyer noted that there were some constraints on what information could be disseminated at a public meeting, based on International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR) restrictions as well as SpaceX proprietary data," stated the ASAP notes. "(However,) the Hon. Mr. (Claude) Bolton stated that everyone is aware that there was an automatic shutdown on the SpaceX launch in May.

"The problem was found to be due to a check valve, (and) the process used to return to a launch position was described during the briefing, which was made by Mr. Scott Henderson, Director of Mission Assurance for SpaceX."

The subject was discussed by the ASAP due to an apparent concern with the pace of the turnaround, with the notes adding "VADM Dyer observed that the turnaround was so fast that there was initially some concern on the Panel's part that sufficient work may not have been done to identify root cause."

However, after hearing from Mr Henderson – and verifying NASA's own report into the anomaly resolution by the SpaceX engineers – the ASAP saw no items of concern.

"The ASAP understood from NASA's report that the process was effective and efficient, turning around for a second successful launch attempt in three days; it was thorough, robust, fast, and transparent to NASA," the meeting notes added.

Due to the proprietary nature of SpaceX's vehicle, no information has been released on how Engine 5 performed during ascent – as much as the vehicle clearly performed its required tasks. However, the ASAP went on record to say they are satisfied with the information they have to hand.

"After further review, the ASAP was satisfied with how this class D-equivalent mission was treated."

Given the ASAP hold a large amount of influence at the Agency and political level, their recent positivity over SpaceX's practises is important, and timely – as NASA close in on providing final approval for SpaceX to transition from their Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) obligations – of which the C2+ mission passed the final objectives – to their Commercial Resupply Services (CRS) missions to the ISS.

Pending that expected approval via NASA, L2 (LINK) information shows SpaceX have an opportunity to launch the first two CRS missions before the end of this year.

Current information places the CRS-1 (SpX-1) mission with a NET (No Earlier Than) launch date of October 6, to be followed by the CRS-2 (SpX-2) mission, launching NET December 16. Manifested payloads up to at least CRS-3 (SpX-3) are also listed on documentation (L2 LINK).

(Images: via SpaceX, NASA, and L22s SpaceX Dragon C2+ Mission Special Section – Containing presentations, videos, images (800mb of unreleased hi res images from the mission) and more).

(Click here: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/l2/ - to view how you can support NSF and access the best space flight content on the entire internet).[/size]

[Salo]

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29131.msg944515#msg944515

We're going with October 6 NET for this one at the moment (bottom of the article)

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/08/nasa-safety-panel-satisfied-spacex-anomaly-resolution-team/

Now NET October 8th per the Range.  Bumped due to an ULA launch in early October.

[bavv]

NASA @NASA
NASA Administrator Bolden announces new @commercial_crew & cargo milestones @NASAKennedy http://twitpic.com/amv7i5 http://go.nasa.gov/PeSrOK
23 августа 12 в 20:34

[Salo]

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1208/24cots/

NASA ready for operational cargo flights by SpaceX[/size]
BY STEPHEN CLARK
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: August 24, 2012

SpaceX has completed all milestones under a development and demonstration partnership with NASA, clearing the way for the firm to begin regular operational cargo deliveries to the International Space Station in October, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden announced Thursday.


NASA Administrator Bolden. Credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now
 
Technicians inside SpaceX's hangar at Cape Canaveral are preparing Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon spacecraft for the resupply flight, which is tentatively scheduled to lift off Oct. 8.

The Dragon spacecraft for the mission arrived at the launch site Aug. 14. Workers are preparing the Falcon 9 rocket for a countdown rehearsal and engine test firing.

The mission will be the first of 12 cargo deliveries contracted to SpaceX over the next few years. Each flight will carry up to 7,300 pounds of internal and external cargo to the space station and return up to 5,500 pounds of equipment to Earth.

NASA and SpaceX managers met in Houston last week to review the outcome of the company's May test flight to the space station, which demonstrated the Dragon's capability to rendezvous and berth with the complex with the aid of the lab's robotic arm.

The flight was the final milestone in SpaceX's Commercial Orbital Transportation Services, or COTS, agreement with NASA.

"They have finished the COTS program," Bolden said Thursday inside the SpaceX hangar. "They're moving on to the next phase, which is money for them."

SpaceX has a $1.6 billion contract for 12 resupply missions through at least 2015.

On the Dragon spacecraft's most recent flight, astronauts unloaded cargo from the vehicle's pressurized module, then it returned to Earth on May 31 with a splashdown in the Pacific Ocean after nine days in space. The capsule carried nonessential cargo to and from the space station on the test flight.

The results of the mission will permit SpaceX to deliver more valuable supplies, experiments, and spare parts to the station beginning with the October flight.

NASA and SpaceX signed the COTS agreement in August 2006 to fuse public and private funding for the development of a commercial cargo space transportation system for the space station.

The space agency paid SpaceX $396 million in installments as the company accomplished design, testing and flight milestones, including two test launches and demo missions of the Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon capsule.

"They've met all their COTS milestones, including this year's successful demonstration mission to and from the International Space Station, and they're gearing up now for the first official contracted resupply mission, scheduled around the October timeframe."

The COTS program provided NASA funding to SpaceX and Orbital Sciences Corp., which is planning the first launch of its Antares rocket this fall.

Orbital's Cygnus cargo freighter will fly to the space station on a COTS demo flight in December, at the earliest, leading to the first of nine operational missions in early 2013.[/size]

[Salo]

http://www.spacenews.com/civil/120824-spacex-clear-iss-resupply.html

Fri, 24 August, 2012
SpaceX Cleared To Start Station Resupply Flights[/size]
By Dan Leone

    WASHINGTON — NASA has formally cleared Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) to begin making cargo runs to the international space station in October, making the Hawthorne, Calif., company the first private-spacecraft owner-operator to serve the orbital outpost.

    Now that SpaceX has completed its $400 million Commercial Orbital Transportation Services demonstration agreement, it can begin flying the 12 cargo resupply missions called for under a $1.6 billion Commercial Resupply Services (CRS) contract awarded in 2008. The first of these is slated to launch no earlier than Oct. 5 from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla.

    NASA Administrator Charles Bolden made the announcement Aug. 23 from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Bolden was visiting the spaceport for the since-delayed launch of NASA's Radiation Storm Belt Probes mission, a heliophysics project to study Earth's Van Allen radiation belts.

    SpaceX flew the last of its two demonstration flights for NASA in May when it took nonessential cargo up to the space station and brought back a cache of science experiments and station hardware for inspection on the ground. SpaceX uses its Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon cargo capsule for these missions, which launch from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

    NASA is still waiting for its second cargo services provider, Orbital Sciences Corp. of Dulles, Va., to wrap up its own demonstration program. Orbital got a $1.9 billion contract to make eight deliveries to the space station with its Cygnus space freighter and Antares launcher.

    Like SpaceX, Orbital will have to complete a series of technical demonstrations, culminating with a cargo run to the space station, before it can begin regular resupply flights. Orbital has three big demonstrations remaining: a hold down test of the Antares first stage; the Antares maiden flight, in which the rocket will carry a ballast payload instead of a Cygnus spacecraft; and an orbital demonstration mission with a full-up Antares/Cygnus stack. These demonstrations are respectively scheduled for mid-September, October and December, the company says.

    But Orbital cannot carry out the demonstrations until it takes control of Pad 0-A at the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport, a corner of NASA's Wallops Island Flight Facility operated by the Virginia Commercial Space Flight Authority, a quasi-government entity. Pad turnover, which cannot happen until the infrastructure receives a NASA safety certification, is taking much longer than Orbital expected. The company has blamed the authority for the certification delay.

    Orbital and the authority were targeting a late-July turnover date, but the company has yet to take control of the pad. Neither Orbital spokesman Barron Beneski nor Billie Reed, outgoing executive director of the Virginia Commercial Space Flight Authority, could be reached for comment Aug. 23.[/size]

[Александр Ч.]

А что с грузом? Я так понимаю, теперь речь о 6т вверх не идет? Осетра уже урезали до 3,3т. Манифест нигде не засветился?

[KBOB]

А что с грузом? Я так понимаю, теперь речь о 6т вверх не идет? Осетра уже урезали до 3,3т. Манифест нигде не засветился?

NASA платит 1.6 млрд $ за 20 т грузов
Откуда получаем стоимость вывода одного кг на орбиту 80 тыс $ за кг. (ни какой конкурентоспособности   )
Откуда взялась информация про 12 пусков? Или 20т нужно отправить 12-тю пусками?

[Александр Ч.]

А что с грузом? Я так понимаю, теперь речь о 6т вверх не идет? Осетра уже урезали до 3,3т. Манифест нигде не засветился?

NASA платит 1.6 млрд $ за 20 т грузов
Откуда получаем стоимость вывода одного кг на орбиту 80 тыс $ за кг. (ни какой конкурентоспособности   )
Откуда взялась информация про 12 пусков? Или 20т нужно отправить 12-тю пусками?

Информация о 12 пусках была на сайте космозоо... тьфу... Spacex :-)

[instml]

А что с грузом? Я так понимаю, теперь речь о 6т вверх не идет? Осетра уже урезали до 3,3т. Манифест нигде не засветился?

Orbcomm 2G в заголовке видите? Для него 2-й ступени надо будет орбиту менять, а это опять топливо

[Bizonich]

Если Маск сорвет срок пуска, доверия он не потеряет. Правда интересно на сколько он может его отложить?

[Андрей Суворов]

Если Маск сорвет срок пуска, доверия он не потеряет. Правда интересно на сколько он может его отложить?

Надо взять все полёты Шаттлов к МКС, посчитать среднее время задержки от первоначального и дисперсию.
Вот пока задержки Маска не превысят среднее плюс три сигма, доверия он не потеряет