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[Штуцер]

А вы запросите всяких гроков, может они умнее.

[sasza]

А вы запросите всяких гроков, может они умнее.

ЧатГопоты после уточнения, в какой области (выделение не моё):

In the history of Soviet rockets, "Старый Ламер" is not a historical figure or rocket engineer. It is the long-time Internet pseudonym of a very well-known participant on the Russian space forum Новости космонавтики (Novosti Kosmonavtiki).
He is known for:

• Writing tens of thousands of forum posts over more than two decades.
• Having extensive knowledge of Soviet and American launch vehicles, especially the N-1, R-7, Proton, Energia, Saturn, and the Soviet lunar program.
• Frequently debating the history of Soviet spaceflight with professional historians and engineers.
• Being outspoken and sometimes controversial; many of his conclusions generate lengthy debates. 

Despite his expertise, his real identity has never been publicly confirmed. There has long been speculation that he worked in the Soviet or Russian aerospace industry or military, but no reliable evidence has established who he is. He has consistently remained anonymous.
If you're asking because you've seen his posts about the N-1, Korolev, or Soviet missile development, it's worth noting that:

• He is regarded by many forum members as extremely knowledgeable about the documentary history of Soviet rocketry.
• Others disagree with some of his interpretations and argue that he can be overly confident or polemical. His posts should be read as informed analysis rather than authoritative historical fact. 

If you're interested, I can also tell you why "Старый Ламер" became one of the most famous personalities in the Russian-speaking space history community, or summarize his views on topics like N-1 vs. Saturn V, Korolev vs. von Braun, or Soviet lunar program decisions.

[Zmej Gorynych]

his real identity has never been publicly confirmed. 

Да ладно, и имя, и фото было на форуме неоднократно. Эх, не доросли еще забугорные мОзги до наших таищей майоров  

[sasza]

his real identity has never been publicly confirmed.

Да ладно, и имя, и фото было на форуме неоднократно. Эх, не доросли еще забугорные мОзги до наших таищей майоров  

Помню-помню, у него ещё украинская фамилия. Ничего, со временем всё будет :-) Продолжение:

Why?

He became famous for a combination of factors rather than because of an official role.

• Exceptional technical knowledge. He demonstrated a deep understanding of Soviet launch vehicles, rocket engines, guidance systems, and the history of the Soviet space program. His posts often referenced obscure technical reports, memoirs, and archival documents.
• Long-term participation. For over 20 years, he was one of the most active contributors to the Russian space history community, especially on the Новости космонавтики forum. Thousands of detailed posts made him a familiar name.
• Strong opinions. He wasn't afraid to challenge widely accepted views. For example, he often argued against popular myths about the Soviet lunar program and criticized what he considered inaccurate or exaggerated claims about Soviet achievements.
• Debating experts. His discussions frequently involved professional historians, engineers, and former aerospace workers. Even when people disagreed with him, many acknowledged that he had done extensive research.
• Anonymity. Because he never publicly revealed his identity, many readers wondered whether he had worked in the Soviet rocket industry, military, or archives. No convincing evidence has ever confirmed those speculations.

The nickname itself is also ironic. In Russian computer slang, "ламер" (lamer) means someone inexperienced or incompetent with technology. Calling oneself "Старый Ламер" ("Old Lamer") is a self-deprecating joke, especially given that he is known for highly technical, knowledgeable posts.
So his reputation comes from the quality, depth, and longevity of his contributions, not from holding a publicly known position in the Soviet space program.

[sasza]

Ну и в завершение:

Please summarize his views on the topics you mentioned.

"Старый Ламер" has written thousands of posts over many years, so it's difficult to reduce his views to a few points. However, several themes recur consistently in his discussions.
1. N-1 vs. Saturn V
His position was generally that the Soviet N-1 was not simply an inferior copy or a hopeless failure, but it was an immature design that never reached the level of development achieved by the Saturn V.
He frequently argued that:

• The N-1's biggest weakness was insufficient ground testing of the complete first stage.
• The decision not to static-fire the assembled first stage was a major factor in its failures.
• Using 30 engines was difficult but not inherently impossible—modern rockets have shown that clustering many engines can work if properly tested.
• By the fourth launch, engineers had solved many earlier problems, and the program was making technical progress before it was canceled.

2. Korolev vs. von Braun
Regarding Sergei Korolev and Wernher von Braun, his views were more nuanced than simple comparisons.
He often emphasized:

• Korolev accomplished extraordinary things despite severe political and industrial constraints.
• Von Braun benefited from greater industrial resources, larger budgets, and more stable political support during the Apollo era.
• Comparing the two as if they worked under similar conditions is misleading.

At the same time, he did not portray Korolev as infallible. He criticized some of Korolev's engineering and management decisions while acknowledging his exceptional leadership.
3. Why the Soviet lunar program failed
This was one of his strongest themes.
He argued that the failure was primarily organizational rather than technical:

• Competition among multiple Soviet design bureaus instead of a unified national program.
• Political interference and shifting priorities.
• Limited funding compared with Apollo.
• Delays after Korolev's death in 1966.
• Lack of a fully integrated systems engineering approach.

He generally rejected the idea that "30 engines doomed the N-1."
4. Soviet vs. American space programs
He often argued against both extremes:

• The Soviet program was not a technological failure.
• The American Apollo program was not successful simply because of better engineers.

Instead, he emphasized differences in:

• National priorities.
• Industrial capacity.
• Testing philosophy.
• Program management.
• Political support.

5. Space history methodology
One reason he became influential was his insistence on using:

• original Soviet technical documents,
• engineering reports,
• official meeting minutes,
• memoirs only when supported by documentary evidence.

He was skeptical of sensational stories and often challenged popular myths.
Were his views accepted?
Not always. Some forum members—including historians and former aerospace engineers—agreed with much of his technical analysis. Others felt he:

• argued too aggressively,
• dismissed opposing evidence too readily,
• was overly confident in his conclusions.

So while he became one of the most respected contributors in the Russian-speaking space history community, his posts are generally regarded as well-informed analysis rather than definitive history.
If you're particularly interested in Soviet rocketry, I can also summarize his views on:

• the rivalry between Valentin Glushko and Sergei Korolev,
• why the Soviet Union never built an F-1-class engine,
• whether the N-1 could realistically have reached the Moon if it had received more time and funding.

[Старый]

Алиса:

• «Старый Ламер» — это не человек, а интернет-персонаж и мем

Я всегда говорил что она дура... 

Спросил у Алисы. Она ответила что я сам дурак, а она такого не говорила. 

[Старый]

Алиса:

• «Старый Ламер» — это не человек, а интернет-персонаж и мем

Я всегда говорил что она дура... 

Откуда ты это узнал? Сам додумался или кто то подсказал?

Обобщил наблюдения над Алисой  

[Старый]

He has consistently remained anonymous.

Этот жопт тоже дурак. 

[Штуцер]

It is the long-time Internet pseudonym of a very well-known participant on the Russian space forum Новости космонавтики (Novosti Kosmonavtiki).

Странно, что пока ИИ не додумались до Абазы.

[Штуцер]

N-1 vs. Saturn V

ИИ уперся в анализ лунной программы...

[Штуцер]

Поскольку он никогда публично не раскрывал свою личность, многие читатели задавались вопросом, работал ли он в советской ракетной промышленности, в армии или в архивах. Никаких убедительных доказательств, подтверждающих эти предположения, так и не появилось.

Непонятно. Неужели ИИ не может прочитать весь форум и проанализировать ?

[sasza]

Странно, что пока ИИ не додумались до Абазы.

Почему не додумался? Подразумевается, что не только здесь: "one of the most active contributors to the Russian space history community, especially on the Новости космонавтики forum".

Не знаю, как насчёт всей Авиабазы, но форум ракетолюбителей на ней практически умер - написав пару сообщений за неделю, я стал там самым активным участником. Это при том, что раньше там были чуть ли не сотни сообщений в день.

[LRV_75]

Поскольку он никогда публично не раскрывал свою личность, многие читатели задавались вопросом, работал ли он в советской ракетной промышленности, в армии или в архивах. Никаких убедительных доказательств, подтверждающих эти предположения, так и не появилось.

Непонятно. Неужели ИИ не может прочитать весь форум и проанализировать ?

Убедительных доказательств нет. ИИ прав)) 

[sasza]

Непонятно. Неужели ИИ не может прочитать весь форум и проанализировать ?

На чтение всего форума нужно время. Поэтому я и предлагаю вычленить все его сообщения и натравить на них ИИ :-)

[Zmej Gorynych]

Поскольку он никогда публично не раскрывал свою личность, многие читатели задавались вопросом, работал ли он в советской ракетной промышленности, в армии или в архивах. Никаких убедительных доказательств, подтверждающих эти предположения, так и не появилось.

Непонятно. Неужели ИИ не может прочитать весь форум и проанализировать ?

Вы не можете просматривать это вложение.

[Старый]

N-1 vs. Saturn V

ИИ уперся в анализ лунной программы...

И кажется что-то перепутал. 

[Старый]

Не знаю, как насчёт всей Авиабазы, но форум ракетолюбителей на ней практически умер - написав пару сообщений за неделю, я стал там самым активным участником. Это при том, что раньше там были чуть ли не сотни сообщений в день.

Авиабаза умирает. Как это всегда случается с форумами убитыми собственными модераторами.

[Штуцер]

Поэтому я и предлагаю вычленить все его сообщения и натравить на них ИИ :-)

вне контекста только его сообщения не поддадутся анализу.

[sychbird]

Старый рациональный конъюнктурщик, отползающий от неоправдавшихся прогнозов.
Когда его ловят за фалду, начинает требовать цитат, понимая, что тратить время на поиски большинство полениться.

[Штуцер]

Когда его ловят за фалду

За что ловят?