NRO, USAF и другие любители спутников

Автор carlos, 06.05.2007 11:42:14

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carlos

Лорен Томпсон (Loren B. Thompson) указывает на "красную нить" реформ в NRO: "внедрение горизонтального координирования вертикальных потоков информации".

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Thompson_Files_Reforming_the_NRO_999.html
Еще не все потеряно!

ОАЯ

Что по-видимому означает одно - выход запросов и самой развед информации в мобильные интернет сети.

Dude

Ничего подобного это не значит. Это значит, что нрошники будут стремится предлагать теперь более горизонтально интегрированный результат своим клиентам. Т.е. по простому запросу на прослушку  какого-то региона, будут выдаваться и снимки во всех доступных диапазонах этой местности, в тот момент, когда откуда шел сигнал. Что потребует от ранее независимых подразделений горизонтальной интергации на более низком уровне, чем сейчас.

carlos

Цитировать...Что потребует от ранее независимых подразделений горизонтальной интергации на более низком уровне, чем сейчас.
С этим пожалуй соглашусь. Мне тоже показалось, что суть именно в этом.
Еще не все потеряно!

Dude

Если продолжить логику "нити", то для новых спутников это означает тенденцию совмещение ранее независимых ПН. Например, таких как SIGINT и SBIRS на одной птичке. О чем, уже давно некоторые твердили людям.

carlos

ЦитироватьЕсли продолжить логику "нити", то для новых спутников это означает тенденцию совмещение ранее независимых ПН. Например, таких как SIGINT и SBIRS на одной птичке. О чем, уже давно некоторые твердили людям.
Ну что касается высокоэллиптической составляющей - дополнительные ПН системы ПРН и так живут на борту аппаратов РТР.
Еще не все потеряно!

carlos

Пишуть про НРО.
US spy agency: Mission wanted
ЦитироватьThe NRO transformation, explained Michele Weslander Quaid, NRO's chief technology officer, de-emphasizes the collection of satellite data and focuses instead on developing ground capabilities to process, fuse and analyze that data - a move that would completely reorient the agency's original path.

But why?

In brief, the NRO is a creature of the Cold War. Since the end of the Cold War, the NRO has had difficulty articulating a raison d'
Еще не все потеряно!

carlos

НРОшники осуществили реанимацию неэксплуатационного разведывательного спутника.

Вот что пишет товарищ Steven Aftergood по этому поводу:
ЦитироватьDISABLED INTEL SATELLITE RESTORED TO OPERATION BY NRO

A U.S. intelligence satellite that had ceased to function was recently restored to operation by engineers from the National Reconnaissance Office and its industry affiliates, the NRO said.
The episode was first publicly described last month in a glossy two-page NRO brochure, which simply said: "Technical experts from both the NRO and industry recently performed extraordinary engineering on the ground that returned a non-operating satellite to full operation."
See "National Reconnaissance Office Accomplishments," July 2008:

     http://www.fas.org/irp/nro/accomplish.pdf

Secrecy News asked NRO spokesman Rick Oborn to elaborate on the statement in the promotional brochure.  ("I didn't know anyone actually read that," he said.)
He said the action occurred around "one and a half or two months ago," after the satellite in question had been "non-responsive for a while."
It was a "very interesting and pretty extraordinary" turn of events and "much to everybody's semi-surprise," satellite operation was restored.
What kind of satellite was it?  "I can't tell you that," he said.
When was it launched?  "That would reveal too much."
How long was the satellite non-operational?  "I don't think I'm going to tell you."  And he didn't.
Mr. Oborn said that NRO had prepared a classified account of the matter which was circulated in the intelligence community and to Congress.
The story shows, he said, that "we've got some really smart people doing the job."
Брошюра о которой идет речь выложена на сайте NRO:
http://nro.gov/trans-booklet.pdf
Вот собственно сама цитата:
 
ЦитироватьTechnical experts from both the NRO and industry recently performed extraordinary engineering on the ground that returned a  non-operating satellite to full operation.
Еще не все потеряно!

carlos

Есть имхо, что речь идет либо об одном из старых КН-11, либо о "Лакроссе"
Еще не все потеряно!

insat

ЦитироватьЕсть имхо, что речь идет либо об одном из старых КН-11, либо о "Лакроссе"
На мой взгляд, это - Lacrosse-2.

carlos

Неужно капец котенку? :roll:

Из блога на "Авиэйшен Уик"
ЦитироватьThe End of the NRO?
Posted by Bill Sweetman at 8/14/2008 8:15 AM CDT

"Radical change" is an over-used phrase, but the proposals of the Allard Commission on US national security space – previewed by commission member Gen. Ed Anderson at the Space & Missile Defense Conference in Huntsville on Wednesday, are certainly radical.

The commission recommends eliminating the National Reconnaissance Office - the agency that helped win the Cold War, and whose very existence was secret until the early 1990s - as a separate entity and removing executive authority for space systems from the Air Force, transferring both functions into a single new organization.

"We made the decision to recommend bold steps," said Anderson, a former Army space commander who now works for consultants Booz-Allen Hamilton, "not just refinements at the margins. If we don't, we'll never get there."

Formed at the behest of Congress (and named after its sponsor, Colorado Senator Wayne Allard) but chartered at the Pentagon level - the commission was charged with refining the US national space strategy, Anderson said. But the commission quickly found that "there wasn't one. Inter-agency planning is, to put it nicely, unfocused. No-one is in charge, so everyone thinks that they're in charge."

A prime example is the Space Radar program, terminated earlier this year. Started as a white-world project with the USAF and Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Space Radar ended up in the middle of a turf war between the USAF and the NRO, whose official charter is to run all space-based imaging programs, and had finally been transferred to an expensive but ultimately ineffective joint office. "We found that we had been working on it for ten years and not advanced one bit," Anderson said.

The commission also found that the budget-strapped Air Force has prioritized traditional missions – F-22s and F-35s – over space programs, leading to slow progress in programs like the Transformational Satellite (TSAT). (Army Space & Missile Defense Command leader Gen. Kevin Campbell, speaking in Huntsville, was clearly concerned that the Army could start fielding Future Combat Systems and find no TSAT in place to support it.)

Meanwhile, the once-innovative NRO has been bogged down by delays and overruns in new programs (such as the Future Imagery Architecture project) and is instead expending its resources in extending the lives of aging spacecraft.

Specific recommendations include reviving the dormant National Space Council, headed by the National Security Advisor rather than the vice-President:  the commission found that, absent national leadership, disputes between NASA, the USAF and NRO have been resolved at the Office of Management and Budget, on a resource basis.

Within the DoD, the commission would establish a National Security Space Authority (NSSA) with its chief carrying two titles:  undersecretary of defense for space and deputy director of national intelligence for space. Anderson describes "dual-hatting" as not the best practice, but essential to provide high-level leadership over both military space and the intelligence community. "We recognized that if we were too disruptive we'd get nowhere."

The NSSA would direct a National Security Space Organization (NSSO), responsible for developing, acquiring and supporting all military and intelligence spacecraft, white and black. The NSSO director, a three-star or equivalent, would have two deputies – one for military space and the other for the intelligence world – and the NSSO would absorb the NRO, the USAF's Space & Missile Center in Los Angeles, the USAF Research Laboratory's space vehicles directorate and the operational end of USAF Space Command. "There's no longer a need for two separate organizations," says Anderson. "What the NRO did in the Cold War was superb, but things have changed."

Anderson expects opposition. The timing of the report was "unfortunate", he says, with the USAF smarting from the defenestration of its leadership. "We don't want to make this another crucifixion of the Air Force." Meanwhile, the NRO is likely to dispute the commission's gloomy view of the agency's performance. "They'll say that we're all screwed up, but we're still unconvinced, based on what we saw."

With a lame-duck administration, Anderson says that the report could go several ways. It could be the subject of last-minute action by the current team. It could be adopted by one or both of the presidential campaigns, as a commitment to new policy and reform, or it could be pushed by Congress, which could (for example) set a deadline for the administration to decide what to do about it. But, he affirms, the commission – which included two former NRO directors, Hans Mark and Keith Hall, and a former USAF chief of staff, Gen. Ron Fogelman – was "overwhelmed by the sad state of affairs in the space community, and that caused us to be committed to getting something done."

The full report is "at the printer", says Anderson, and will be out within days or weeks.
Еще не все потеряно!

carlos

Вот еще из Авиэйшен Уик про комиссию Алларда и предлагаемую схему реформ.
Еще не все потеряно!

carlos

Если верить этим предположениям, то на первый план вместно NRO и ВВСовских организаций по космосу должно выйти вот это чудо:
http://www.acq.osd.mil/nsso/organization/history.htm
Еще не все потеряно!

krypton

А оно уже проходило где-нибудь как заказчик программы/КА?

carlos

Еще не все потеряно!

Sharicoff

Не пей метанол!

Старый

ЦитироватьЭтот 2005 года:

А что это за ISE? (справа вверху)
И почему на картинке 2006 года его нет?
1. Ангара - единственная в мире новая РН которая хуже старой (с) Старый Ламер
2. Назначение Роскосмоса - не летать в космос а выкачивать из бюджета деньги
3. У Маска ракета длиннее и толще чем у Роскосмоса
4. Чем мрачнее реальность тем ярче бред (с) Старый Ламер

Sharicoff

ЦитироватьА что это за ISE? (справа вверху)
И почему на картинке 2006 года его нет?

Я тоже сначала об него споткнулся. Чисто внешне - похож на Формосаты-3.  :roll: Ну или м.б. на Орбкомм.
Не пей метанол!

Старый

Ну и становится ясно что аппаратура SLDСOM на титановских блоках TLD является продолжением аппаратуры MATT и IDM на атласовских MSD.
1. Ангара - единственная в мире новая РН которая хуже старой (с) Старый Ламер
2. Назначение Роскосмоса - не летать в космос а выкачивать из бюджета деньги
3. У Маска ракета длиннее и толще чем у Роскосмоса
4. Чем мрачнее реальность тем ярче бред (с) Старый Ламер

Sharicoff

ЦитироватьНу и становится ясно что аппаратура SLDСOM на титановских блоках TLD является продолжением аппаратуры MATT и IDM на атласовских MSD.

Скорее уж эти MATT и IDM стояли как раз на SLDCOM'ах, и тогда сами SLDCOM'ы - логическое продолжение LIPS'ов.
Не пей метанол!