Иранский космос

[Salo]

Голимые понты. :wink:

[Старый]

Iran's Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi says the Islamic Republic is establishing a new satellite launch base to put super-heavy satellites into orbit.

Vahidi said Thursday that the base will be used to launch one-ton satellites into an orbit of 1,000 kilometers.

Это чтож за сврхтяжёлые такие спутники массой ажно в тонну? И носитель к ним размерности ажно с Космос-3М?

[Дмитрий В.]

И носитель к ним размерности ажно с Космос-3М?

"Симорг", очевидно.

[Старый]

"Симорг", очевидно.

Супертяж по ирански.
 Это такое четырёхмоторное которого тут пару лет назад выкладывали фото с выставки?

[Salo]

Оно!
http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/space-technology-and-news/iran-to-launch-fajr-satellite-soon/msg107764/#msg107764

M-ATF пишет:

I should correct my statements , according to Mashreghnews, this is specifications of Simorgh:
Length : 25.974 m
First Stage Diameter: 2.4 m
Second Stage Diameter: 1.5
Length of Second Stage: 8.158 m
Thrust of First Stage: 142 ton
Thrust of Second Stage: .7.2 tons

Diameter of Safir is 1.25 m (first and second), So by comparison of it with diameter of second stage of Simorgh, it is possible to conclude that second stage of Simorgh is different than second stage of Safir. Second stage of Simorgh produces 7.2 tons compared to 3.4 tons of second stage of Safir.

[Старый]

Диаметр как у Космоса-3М. Демократизаторы скажут что мы незаконно продали Ирану списаную 8К65. И перевести стрелки на Тор не удастся - диаметр подходит а топливо - нет.

[Дмитрий В.]

Диаметр как у Космоса-3М. Демократизаторы скажут что мы незаконно продали Ирану списаную 8К65. И перевести стрелки на Тор не удастся - диаметр подходит а топливо - нет.

Не сцы! Все свалят на КНДР и КНР: "Симорг" - клон "Ынхи", а "Ынха" - клон CZ-1

[Salo]

Это мы понимаем. А они будут петь про Musudan и Р-27. :roll:

[Дмитрий В.]

Second stage of Simorgh produces 7.2 tons compared to 3.4 tons of second stage of Safir.

Мы с Афанасьевым в 2009 оценили тягу 2-й ступени в 2...4 тс, а в расчет принимали 3,75 тс. Ненамного ошиблись, это радует.

[Salo]

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010174318

Iran to Send Heavy Satellites into Orbit

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran plans to send heavy satellites into orbit and is setting up a new launch base for this purpose, Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi said.      

Vahidi said Thursday that the base will be used to launch one-ton satellites into an orbit of 1,000 kilometers.

He said that among Iran's next year plans was the launch of Tolou (Rise) and Fajr (Dawn) satellites into orbit.

[Liss]

Диаметр как у Космоса-3М. Демократизаторы скажут что мы незаконно продали Ирану списаную 8К65. И перевести стрелки на Тор не удастся - диаметр подходит а топливо - нет.

Не сцы! Все свалят на КНДР и КНР: "Симорг" - клон "Ынхи", а "Ынха" - клон CZ-1

А сколько, интересно, может вытащить на орбиту этот двухступенчатый клон "Ынхи"?

[Старый]

Ну если двухступенчатый Космос-3М вытаскивает примерно тонну, а тут примерно такой же диаметр...

[Salo]

Двухступенчатый Космос-3М вытаскивает полторы тонны на НЗО.
Прототип сабжа CZ-1 в поздних модификациях от 500 кг до 1 тонны. Правда с твердотопливной третьей ступенью.

[Salo]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225870.html

'Many countries seeking Iran assistance in satellite launch'
Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:53PM GMT

Head of Iran Space Agency (ISA) says "many" countries have approached Iran and asked for help in launching satellites into space, Press TV reports.

Hamid Fazeli made the remarks during an exclusive interview with Press TV on Thursday.

"Iran is now able to build and launch satellites weighing less than 100k," he said.

"Last year, we participated in the IAF [International Astronautical Federation] conference where we put our achievements on display. There, many countries, even Western countries, came to us and said that they were interested in sending their research satellites into orbit ... and asked us to launch their satellites," Fazeli added.

[Дмитрий В.]

Диаметр как у Космоса-3М. Демократизаторы скажут что мы незаконно продали Ирану списаную 8К65. И перевести стрелки на Тор не удастся - диаметр подходит а топливо - нет.

Не сцы! Все свалят на КНДР и КНР: "Симорг" - клон "Ынхи", а "Ынха" - клон CZ-1

А сколько, интересно, может вытащить на орбиту этот двухступенчатый клон "Ынхи"?

Исходных данных для расчета маловато. Навскидку 800-1000 кг на низкую орбиту высотой 200-300 км.

[Salo]

Фото Safir и Omid в большом разрешении:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Omid

[SpaceR]

Vahidi also said that Iran is planning to launch satellites into orbits of up to 36,000 kilometers next year.
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Даже если имеется в виду 150 x 36000, то чем? И какая масса ПН?

Может, "Великим походом"?

К примеру, если речь о создании собственных КА для работы на этих орбитах.

[Salo]

http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/space-technology-and-news/tolu-will-be-launched-by-simorgh-from-new-space-center/

Rezayi an expert of space technologies said Safir-1B can put 60 kg satellites into 350-450 km eliptical orbits.
He added Safir-1B has serious differences in fuel, engine, separation guidance and control systems compared to Safir-1A.
He said Simorgh can put 100 kg satellites into 500 km circular orbits.
He said by evolution of satellite launcher vehicles Iran will be capable to put satellites in to GEO orbits. Future satellites launcher vehicles of Iran , will launch satellites into Parking orbits, then thruster of satellite will put satellite into 36000 km orbit.

[url=http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/99007/~1H'2-7DH9-'J1'FJ-('-3JE1:-'2-~'J

[Salo]

http://english.farsnews.net/newstext.php?nn=9010175332

13:00 | 2012-02-19
Iranian Experts to Manufacture Earthquake Prediction Satellite

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian researchers plan to manufacture a law-altitude satellite which helps predict earthquakes from space.

The satellite dubbed Ayat (Signs) will help predict the time of earthquakes for the first time in the country.

Deputy Head of Iran's Industrial and Scientific Studies Center for Innovation and International Cooperation Mohammad Hassan Entezari said the satellite would identify the signals sent out from the earth before or after the earthquake, adding the satellite weighs 50-70 kg and would be placed in a lower altitude.

He stressed some countries including France, China and Russia are working in this regard, noting Ayat satellite possesses a key role in processing the seismic disturbances before and after the shocks.

Entezari stated that basic studies have been carried out and the practical process would begin after required budget is provided.

[Salo]

Сардар Вахиди: спутник Фаджр с возможностью орбитального маневра будет запущен в ближайшее время:
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13901201000409


http://english.farsnews.net/newstext.php?nn=9010175332

13:00 | 2012-02-19
Iranian Experts to Manufacture Earthquake Prediction Satellite

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian researchers plan to manufacture a law-altitude satellite which helps predict earthquakes from space.

The satellite dubbed Ayat (Signs) will help predict the time of earthquakes for the first time in the country.

Deputy Head of Iran's Industrial and Scientific Studies Center for Innovation and International Cooperation Mohammad Hassan Entezari said the satellite would identify the signals sent out from the earth before or after the earthquake, adding the satellite weighs 50-70 kg and would be placed in a lower altitude.

He stressed some countries including France, China and Russia are working in this regard, noting Ayat satellite possesses a key role in processing the seismic disturbances before and after the shocks.

Entezari stated that basic studies have been carried out and the practical process would begin after required budget is provided.