Вопросы о Лунных Кораблях 11Ф94

[David Lee Rickman]

I still haven't figured out what the white rectangular object is:



From the views presented above, it looks like it might be on a hinge. It also looks like it might unfold. But these are just thoughts; I don't have any real knowledge as to what it is.

It does appear in this photo also (from a video which shows all the major sections laid out).



What's also interesting is that if you look at this area on the other LK, the connector area does have a large block attached:



Could this be a cover for that block?

Still Curious,

David L. Rickman

[David Lee Rickman]

Another Question ... This one is about the "Planeta" Landing Radar:

"Planeta consisted of four antennae, with their beams arranged in an asymmetric pyramid. Three determined the velocity vector using Doppler, while the fourth beam, in the central position, determined altitude above the surface."

I know where the main down-facing antenna is located, but what about the three that are 120 degrees apart?

Regards,

David L. Rickman

[Старый]

фа это часом не площадка "Якорь" на которую вставать перебираясь в ЛК и обратно?

[Johannes]

I surmise it is a connector block for an instrument of some kind, or umbilical cable. Sometime during the mission, the connector is jettisoned and the white plate covers the area in order to guarantee the proper thermal conditions.

[David Lee Rickman]

I surmise it is a connector block for an instrument of some kind, or umbilical cable. Sometime during the mission, the connector is jettisoned and the white plate covers the area in order to guarantee the proper thermal conditions.

Interesting idea. That would make sense. If this is correct, then the next step would be to find out what connects into this block. It would have to be associated with the instrument compartment. I wonder if the Umbilical "Mast" on the other side was not all that was disconnected prior to ascent?

Thanks for the input!

Best Regards,

David L. Rickman

[David Lee Rickman]

I surmise it is a connector block for an instrument of some kind, or umbilical cable. Sometime during the mission, the connector is jettisoned and the white plate covers the area in order to guarantee the proper thermal conditions.

Looking at the photos below, you can see on the top image that there is a separation line:



It's hard to see the bottom image clearly, but you can see that there is still a piece remaining. If this piece were removed then the white flap could cover this area nicely.

There is something else in the bottom left that's also under that flap which is too hard to see in this photo. If someone could ask Oleg to give us a zoom of this area in gallery 054, Image 8983 (and the same area in Image 8984 if he's feeling generous :wink:) that may answer this question.

So far I'm inclined to believe your idea Johannes. It is logical.

Best Regards,

David L. Rickman

[m-s Gelezniak]

А это часом не просто клапан наддува кабины после выхода? С ручным и дистанцирнным управлением?

Электромагнитный клапан. Маркеровка на трубке "Вода-Пар". :lol:

[m-s Gelezniak]

Вид на поглотители и макет блока управления (деревянный).
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_031/pages/IMG_2764.html

[m-s Gelezniak]

Светло коричневые "кубики" - утяжелители.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_031/pages/IMG_2733.html
В общем Оревский экземпляр - ГВМ для ОК.

[David Lee Rickman]

I was looking closer at the "Umbilical" on the other side. It seems that the Mast holds hard lines, like piping. This means that the other side could be all the cables that disconnect.

The only problem is how does it disconnect and clear the rest of the craft at launch? Which brings up a question regarding the Lunniy Korabl at Orevo:





In this photo what are the four long pins seen holding the four corners? Could these be spring-loaded pyrobolts designed to release this part and throw it to the side?

Thanks for any input!

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

[David Lee Rickman]

I never really considered that there might be an escape hatch, and then I saw this photo:

Now that I understand this to be an emergency escape hatch, how is it opened? Are those pyrobolts that break through the outer skin?

I am willing to enertain speculation.

Best Always,

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

[Pavel]

Now that I understand this to be an emergency escape hatch, how is it opened? Are those pyrobolts that break through the outer skin?

I am willing to enertain speculation.

Best Always,

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=792693#792693

[David Lee Rickman]

Now that I understand this to be an emergency escape hatch, how is it opened? Are those pyrobolts that break through the outer skin?

I am willing to enertain speculation.

Best Always,

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=792693#792693

The translation is a little unclear, but I think I have a basic understanding. Can the answer be worded? Perhaps then I will be able to fully understand.

Thank you!

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

[m-s Gelezniak]

См. верхний левый угол фото:

Вскрытый аварийный люк.

[David Lee Rickman]

См. верхний левый угол фото:

Вскрытый аварийный люк.

Yes, I noticed that a few weeks ago. It was then that I knew for sure that this was an escape hatch.

But, how is it opened? And what is the purpose of the object in the middle of the hatch? Is this to release internal atmosphere pressure?

Best,

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

[m-s Gelezniak]

Вскрывается оболочка кабины. Принцип как у консервной банки.
Коричниевый "кубик" в центре утяжелитель (иммитатор массы).

[David Lee Rickman]

Вскрывается оболочка кабины. Принцип как у консервной банки.
Коричниевый "кубик" в центре утяжелитель (иммитатор массы).

Thank you!

The cube I understand, but the round oblect in the center of the hatch that the cube is attached to ... what is that?

Best,

David L. Rickman

549 Caribou Road,
Asheville, NC 28803
USA

[Дмитрий В.]

На всякий случай, продублирую:

кому интересны фотки ЛОК с музея МАИ : http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/klingon34/album/124493/  + http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/klingon34/album/121191/  :!:

[m-s Gelezniak]

Кроме того, прошу запостить сюда фотки (или ссылки на оные) посадочного корабля - нужно обсудить - что и как на нем было одето в ЭВТИ.

Похоже самый большой специалист по ЛК в досягаемости это француз
Тезио Кортезе  :wink:
Стоит только посмотреть его историю сборки ЛК
http://www.forum-conquete-spatiale.fr/t10222p225-module-lunaire-sovietique-lk-maquette-1-24eme
Еще много знает м.Железняк  




Кстати у него единственного вижу поручни для обратного перехода из
ЛК в ЛОК (может и самодеятельность, а может и кто сказал как выглядело,
по идее они доджны быть по определению ... )

Петрович, наш французкий друг, при всей его скурпулезности, достойной высочайшего уважения (мною по крайней мере ), допустил таки несколько неточнотей.
Одна из них: приборный отсек ЛПА стоит задом наперед.

А расположение лееров можно проследить по  опорным конусам для них.

[ronatu]