Космос-3М / Orbcomm

[Liss]

Ну так два номера пропущено: на еще один спутник и на 2-ю ступень.

[Кир]

Ну так два номера пропущено: на еще один спутник и на 2-ю ступень.

О том и речь. М.б. 2 пары ИСЗ медленно расходятся в плоскости?
Гм, 2-я ступень... Нашел старую схему разведения для "таблеток" http://www.satellite.srd.mtuci.ru/Orbcomm/image7.gif
А как с "кубиками", кто нибудь знает?

[bsdv]

Ну так два номера пропущено: на еще один спутник и на 2-ю ступень.

О том и речь. М.б. 2 пары ИСЗ медленно расходятся в плоскости?
Гм, 2-я ступень... Нашел старую схему разведения для "таблеток" http://www.satellite.srd.mtuci.ru/Orbcomm/image7.gif
А как с "кубиками", кто нибудь знает?

Похоже своим ходом, на ЖРД. Но это потом, после построения ориентации

[Liss]

Ну так два номера пропущено: на еще один спутник и на 2-ю ступень.

О том и речь. М.б. 2 пары ИСЗ медленно расходятся в плоскости?

Давно уже все семь объектов зарегистрованы.

[ааа]

Вот какая инфа есть от "Полета":

В интересах инозаказчика (германская фирма «OНB - System AG») разработан модуль слу жебных систем КА орбитальной группировки «ОРБКОММ», что позволило ФГУП ПО «Полет» заключить договор комиссии на адаптацию и доработку РН «Космос-ЗМ» для обеспечения группо вого запуска 6 КА «Орбкомм» на РН «Космос-ЗМ» общей стоимостью 78 млн. рублей.
    Совместно с кооперацией (ФГУП ПО «Полет», «НИЛАКТ РОСТО», НПО «Сатурн», ОАО НИАИ «Источник» др.) изготовлено, испытано и поставлено 7 модулей служебных систем. Модуль служебных систем является по сути базовой космической платформой, оснащенной корректирующей двигательной установкой собственной разработки и изготовления.

И я так понимаю, что речь идет об одной из этих ДУ:

http://ru.microsat.ru/index.php?page=engine&category=products

[Shin]

Статья о запуске вышла в НК №8, 2008 и вот фотка из нее, предоставленная, кстати, ПО "Полет"

[anik]

http://www.space.com/spacenews/

"KOUROU, French Guiana — Satellite mobile messaging service provider Orbcomm will file a $50 million total-loss insurance claim for all six satellites it launched in June 2008, arguing that even if only one of them has completely failed in orbit, none of the other five qualifies as a "working satellite" under the company's insurance policy, Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc J. Eisenberg said May 11"

[anik]

Мда... Особенно с учетом двух "Стерхов"... И задержанной на два года "Радуги-1"...

http://www.spacenews.com/satellite_telecom/091113-defective-satellites-hobble-orbcomms-ais-business.html

"PARIS — Satellite two-way messaging service provider Orbcomm said it is prepared to take its insurers to court to force them to pay a $50 million claim for satellite failures that occurred both during and after the period that the company's policy was in effect.

Fort Lee, N.J.-based Orbcomm also said one of its key services, providing Automatic Identification System (AIS) data on ships to the U.S. Coast Guard and other customers, is at risk because of an apparently identical defect on six satellites launched in 2008. These satellites are the focus of the insurance dispute.

In a Nov. 11 filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Orbcomm said four of the six AIS-equipped satellites it launched in June 2008 have now failed, with the other two likely to fail in the near future. The company has filed a $50 million claim with its insurers covering the loss of all six satellites.

For Orbcomm, the problem is that the failures occurred both before and after the company's insurance policy expired. The policy began with the satellites' launch in June 2008 and expired 12 months later.

Orbcomm insists that even though three of the four failures occurred after the policy expired, and even if two satellites remain in service, it was clear that all six satellites had the same defect and would suffer the same fate. That should trigger a full payment under the policy, the company reasons.

Whether its underwriters will all agree is unclear. It is customary among space insurance underwriters to exclude coverage of known defects from satellite insurance coverage when the policies are renewed.

Orbcomm's satellite insurance policy was written with nine separate underwriters, each of which makes its own evaluation as to the legitimacy of the claim. In its SEC filing, the company said it may need to initiate binding arbitration or other legal proceedings to obtain the full insurance claim.

The policy includes a one-satellite deductible, meaning Orbcomm's coverage applies only when a second of the six satellites fails. The first failure occurred in February, and Orbcomm took a non-cash charge of $7.1 million against its first-quarter earnings.

A second satellite failed in July. Ground controllers at manufacturer KB Polyot of Omsk, Russia, succeeded in regaining control of the satellite, but the craft is incapable of providing AIS or normal Orbcomm messaging service, according to Orbcomm.

A third satellite failed in early August, and a fourth — the Coast Guard Demonstration satellite — failed later that month. Orbcomm booked a non-cash charge of some $21.9 million for the three satellites, saying the company assumes they will not be returned to service.

Orbcomm operates 29 other satellites in low Earth orbit and the company's basic messaging service has been only marginally affected by the failures, according to the SEC filing. But AIS service, which accounted for $540,000 in revenue during the three months ending Sept. 30, is now offered only by the two remaining satellites of the six launched in June 2008.

In a Nov. 9 conference call with investors, Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc Eisenberg said the failures will cause messaging delays in the overall Orbcomm system and also have "hampered attempts to enter new markets. A number of new customers have put off orders" pending a resolution of the satellite issue.

Orbcomm is unlikely to get any in-orbit relief until late 2010 at the earliest. Sierra Nevada Corp. of Sparks, Nev., is building Orbcomm's 18-satellite second-generation constellation under a $117 million contract signed in May 2008, and has promised to have the first group of six satellites ready for launch starting in late 2010.

The 18 satellites will be launched by five Falcon 1e rockets operated by Space Exploration Technologies of Hawthorne, Calif., under a $46.6 million contract, with the launches to occur between late 2010 and early 2014.

International regulations obliging maritime vessels of a certain size to be equipped with terrestrial AIS systems have lured a half-dozen companies and government space agencies into the field of space-based AIS. Orbcomm has first-to-market advantage currently with its Coast Guard contract and a more recent contract with insurer Lloyd's of London covering AIS service.

Orbcomm reported revenue of $20.5 million for the nine months ending Sept. 30, up 6.6 percent from the same period a year earlier. Service revenue, at $20.3 million, increased by 19.7 percent but overall results were weakened by sales of Orbcomm subscriber terminals, which fell 89 percent, to $247,000.

Eisenberg said commercial trucking and heavy-equipment companies — Orbcomm's two biggest markets — have been hit hard by the economic downturn. As the economy recovers, he said, so will sales to these customers"

[Salo]

[Лютич]

Вот, кстати, еще один недостаток многоспутниковых систем.

[Брабонт]

Мор напал на нашу технику . Даже полигонный поп с кадилом не спасает.

[ааа]

Мор напал на нашу технику . Даже полигонный поп с кадилом не спасает.

Букоф в цитате очень много, но я так вижу, что не написано, что именно сломалось. Может быть, вышла из строя ПН, а не борт и Омск не виноват.

[anik]

Букоф в цитате очень много, но я так вижу, что не написано, что именно сломалось. Может быть, вышла из строя ПН, а не борт и Омск не виноват

Ну что ж, почитаем оригинал, там все очень подробно расписано...

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1361983/000095012309059834/c91352e10vq.htm

"On June 19, 2008, the Coast Guard Demonstration satellite ("CDS") and five quick-launch satellites were launched. Due to delays associated with the construction of the final quick-launch satellite, the Company is retaining it for future deployment. Since launch, communications capability for three of the quick-launch satellites and the CDS has been lost as described below.

The two quick-launch satellites for which the Company maintains communications capability are providing limited ORBCOMM messaging and worldwide AIS services. These satellites are experiencing attitude control system anomalies which result in the satellites not pointing towards the sun and the earth as expected. These pointing errors result in reduced power generation, improper satellite spacing within the orbital plane and reduced communications capabilities. One of these satellites has an intermittent flight computer anomaly and a power system anomaly which has significantly reduced its availability. The similarity of these satellites to the failed satellites described below is believed to significantly reduce their expected useful lives.

On February 22, 2009, one quick-launch satellite experienced a power system anomaly that subsequently resulted in a loss of contact with the satellite by both the Company's ground control systems and the ground control systems of the company providing in-orbit monitoring and testing, KB Polyot-Joint Stock Company ("KB Polyot"). After consultation with OHB and its own engineers, the Company believes that after an extended period of no communication with the satellite, the satellite is not recoverable. A non-cash impairment charge to write-off the cost of this satellite of $7,045 was recognized during the first quarter of 2009.

On July 31, 2009, another quick-launch satellite experienced a gateway transmitter anomaly that resulted in a loss of contact with the satellite by the Company's ground control systems. KB Polyot was able to connect to the satellite through the back-up command and control system. Telemetry from this back-up system has indicated the satellite bus is functioning as it was prior to the occurrence of this anomaly. The Company was using this back-up system to send commands to the payload in an attempt to recover the gateway transmitter but these commands have not corrected the anomaly. After consultations with its engineers, the Company believes that the gateway transmitter will not be recovered, resulting in an inability to provide ORBCOMM messaging and AIS data services by this satellite. Accordingly, an impairment charge of $7,083 was recognized in the quarter ended September 30, 2009. No amount of this impairment charge represents a cash expenditure and the Company does not expect that any amount of this impairment charge will result in any future cash expenditures.

On August 7, 2009, another quick-launch satellite experienced a power system anomaly. Subsequently, on August 24, 2009, the CDS also experienced an anomaly with its power system. These anomalies resulted in a loss of contact with the satellites by both the Company's ground control systems and the back-up command and control systems of KB Polyot. After consultation with OHB and the Company's own engineers, the Company believes that after such an extended period of no communication with the satellites, it is unlikely that the satellites will be recovered based on its experience with earlier satellites with which contact was similarly lost. Accordingly, the Company recorded a non-cash impairment charge for the cost of these two satellites of $14,776, which in addition to the impairment charge previously disclosed results in a total impairment charge of $21,859 that is reflected in the Company's condensed consolidated financial statements for the quarter ended September 30, 2009. None of the impairment charges represent a cash expenditure and the Company does not expect that any amount of these impairment charges will result in any future cash expenditures"

[Frontm]

power system
от этого словосочетания не по себе становится уже давно

[ааа]

А СЭП это у нас или "Сатурн", или "Источник".
Теоретически еще может быть виновата НИЛАКТ, но вроде они раньше в таких косяках не были замечены.

[ааа]

А вот что написано у Креббса. Похоже, проблемы отнюдь не только с СЭП.

A number of problems with these satellites have occured. All six satellites (including ORBCOMM CDS 3) suffered from problems with their reaction wheels and one satellite displayed problems with the onboard computer and are providing limited services during in-orbit testing. Orbcomm FM40 (Q4) lost contact in February 2009 and is probably a complete loss. Orbcomm announced in May 2009, that it will file a $50 million total-loss insurance claim for all six satellites it launched in June 2008, arguing that even if only one of them has completely failed in orbit, none of the other five qualifies as a "working satellite" under the company's insurance policy.

[VAA]

Информация про ORBCOMM пропала из списков на сайте OHB-Sysem:
http://www.ohb-system.de/
А ведь была раньше.

[Старый]

Следствие прекращено по причине смерти обвиняемого?

[Космос-3794]

PARIS — Satellite two-way messaging service provider Orbcomm Inc. will receive a $44.25 million claim for defects on the six satellites it launched in June 2008 following a settlement with its insurance underwriters, Orbcomm announced Dec. 16.

The Fort Lee, N.J.-based company had filed a $50 million claim, but accepted a reduction based on an analysis of the remaining value in two of the six satellites.

Accepting the lower figure permits Orbcomm to avoid any negotiations with insurers over satellite ownership. The company will retain title to the two satellites that are still operating, which might not have been the case if underwriters had agreed to the full $50 million payout.

Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc Eisenberg said Dec. 17 that the settlement is definitive, and that the company will not seek arbitration on behalf of the $5.75 million remaining from its original claim.

http://www.spacenews.com/satellite_telecom/091217-orbcomm-settles-with-insurers-defective-satellites.html

[Morin]

А вот вопрос, немного не в тему. РН "Космос" "Полет" уже не сможет производить, даже если захочет?