SpaceX Falcon 9

[Not]

Salo пишет:
Чем рисковать будут? Драгоном?

Стартом.

[Salo]

Причина аварии неясна, место её даже не локализовано, а сроки уже назначают.
В спешке Шотвелл даже CCAFS вместо KSC назвала.

[Salo]

Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  16 мин.16 минут назад  
Hoffman: expect to take a couple years to refine the refurb process and costs. See "significant" cost savings in a few years. #AIAASpace
 
  Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  19 мин.19 минут назад  
Hoffman: took one of the Falcon 9 landed boosters to Texas; fired it 7 times so far with no refurbishment. #AIAASpace

[SGS_67]

Salo пишет:
Причина аварии неясна, место её даже не локализовано,...

Вряд ли так.
Скорее - не обнародовано.
Последнее требует времени. Там каждую фразу в отчёте будут согласовывать. Возможно, с привлечением юристов как с той, так и с другой стороны.

[SGS_67]

Alex_II пишет:
Сомнение меня берет что они 39ю площадку успеют до ноября... Но на чем-то же они основываются, надо думать...

При известной прыти, и 40-ю можно збацать.
По мне, тама не так уж много погорело.
Проводку, шланги заменить, алюминиевую надстройку к башне приделать, сарай переложить.
Ну да, ещё один громоотвод отмыть от сажи. Это СпейсИксам не впервой.

[Kap]

Apollo13 пишет:
После CRS-7 тоже собирались лететь в августе.

Таки в сентябре и это говорил Маск, а не Шотвелл.

[che wi]

SpaceX планирует возобновить запуски ракеты Falcon 9 в ноябре

НЬЮ-ЙОРК, 14 сентября. /Корр. ТАСС Кирилл Волков/. Американская компания SpaceX, чья ракета Falcon 9 взорвалась в начале текущего месяца на космодроме на мысе Канаверал (штат Флорида), планирует возобновить запуски в ноябре. Об этом заявила во вторник президент SpaceX Гвин Шотвелл.

"Мы ожидаем, что не будем производить пуски в течение около трех месяцев, они возобновятся где-то в ноябре", - сказала она.

[che wi]

Salo пишет:
В спешке Шотвелл даже CCAFS вместо KSC назвала.

Это Селдинг так решил "сократить" для поста в твиттере. Шотвелл "...launch on the east coast from pad 39A..."

[Apollo13]

Гвинн по сути вообще ничего нового не сказала.

[Apollo13]

https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/09/13/ses-stands-by-spacex-after-getting-good-discount-on-reused-rocket/

SES stands by SpaceX after getting 'good discount' on reused rocket

September 13, 2016 Stephen Clark




Three of SpaceX's recovered Falcon 9 boosters inside a hangar at launch pad 39A. Credit: SpaceX

One of SpaceX's most loyal commercial customers, the European-based telecom satellite operator SES, remains committed to flying a spacecraft aboard a "refurbished" Falcon 9 booster as soon as the company resumes rocket flights, officials said.
SpaceX and SES announced the reused rocket deal Aug. 30, two days before a Falcon rocket exploded during fueling for a pre-launch test at Cape Canaveral.
A spokesperson for SES confirmed since the accident that the company will keep its agreement to launch the SES 10 communications satellite on SpaceX's first launch of a previously-flown Falcon 9 booster.
The launch of SES 10 was scheduled for late October before the Sept. 1 launch pad mishap, but Falcon 9 missions are grounded while SpaceX investigates the cause. Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX's president and chief operating officer, said Tuesday that Falcon 9 flights could resume as early as November.
"SES 10 just fit with us and also in SpaceX's manifest," said Martin Halliwell, chief technology officer for Luxembourg-based SES. "So we decided that this is the one that we were going to go for."
The 156-foot-tall (47-meter) first stage slated to launch SES 10 first flew with a Dragon supply ship heading to the International Space Station. The booster made a propulsive vertical landing on SpaceX's barge in the Atlantic Ocean a few minutes after the April 8 launch.
The second stage of the Falcon 9 will still be manufactured new for each mission, at least for the foreseeable future.
None of those plans have changed in the wake of the Sept. 1 launch pad accident, but officials are not sure when the SES 10 mission will take off. It was second in line on SpaceX's manifest before the launch pad explosion.
In an interview with Spaceflight Now the day before the accident, Halliwell declined to disclose the value of the deal. SES originally inked the SES 10 launch contract with SpaceX in 2014, but Halliwell said it was bundled together with contracts to launch other SES satellites.
The companies signed a separate agreement to cover the specifics of the partially reusable rocket launch, and the financial terms.
"We got a discount," Halliwell said. "I can't go into the specific pricing, but we did get a discount for being an early adopter of the technology."
In response to a question whether the discount was closer to potential figures publicly disclosed by SpaceX's Shotwell and SES chief executive Karim Sabbagh — who discussed possible reusability discounts of 30 percent and 50 percent, respectively — Halliwell said: "It certainly came out closer to Gwynne than to Karim."
The figures, while stated as unofficial and somewhat arbitrary, illustrated the behind-the-scenes negotiation on the real price of a reused Falcon 9.
Halliwell did not confirm whether the ultimate price for the SES 10 launch fell between the 30 percent and 50 percent discount figures.
"We did receive a good discount on the baseline price," he said. "It's not as crazy or spectacular as you might think, and that makes sense. SpaceX has to supply an awful lot of equipment, and they have to do an awful lot of refurbishment.
"It is an interesting price, and it's something which we believe will be meaningful going forward, and will be meaningful for the industry in the longer term," he said.
SES says there was "no material change" to the insurance coverage or the company's premium payment after cinching the agreement to launch SES 10 on a "flight-proven" rocket.
SpaceX lists on its website the price of a newly-built Falcon 9 launch as $61 million, but industry officials say that price oscillates lower and higher depending on the requirements, and timing, of a specific mission.


Artist's concept of the SES 10 satellite. Credit: Airbus Defense and Space

SES has been en early adopter of SpaceX's launch services since 2013, when the telecom firm placed the SES 8 television broadcast station on the first Falcon 9 launch bound for a high-altitude geostationary transfer orbit, the favored destination for most large communications satellites.
Last year, the SES 9 satellite successfully flew on just the second launch of an upgraded Falcon 9 rocket burning super-chilled densified propellants, which give the launcher the capability to heave more massive payloads into orbit.
Now SES is again hitching on to SpaceX's effort to reshape the launch industry with lower prices, an outcome SpaceX managers say will come with "rapid and complete" reusability, which could slash costs by an order of magnitude or more in the long run.
SpaceX's partially reusable Falcon 9 is not likely to meet that long-term objective in the next few years, but any reduction in the company's launch prices — already the lowest in global market for the Falcon 9's size — should add pressure to SpaceX's competitors.
Halliwell downplayed any added risk to the SES 10 launch fr om the decision to launch the craft on a reused booster.
"To be frank, it's less risky," Halliwell said. "We know the engines work. We know that they perform correctly. We know the lifetime cycle of the engines. We know the testing. It is truly flight-proven, so quite honestly, apart from the emotion associated with it, thinking, 'Wow, is it going to be an additional risk?', if you actually look at it in the calm light of day, then it's absolutely a wash."
Halliwell said SES engineers have visited SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, California, and SpaceX's test site in Central Texas to observe manufacturing, refurbishment and tests ahead of the SES 10 launch.


Four of the next six SES satellites will launch on SpaceX Falcon 9 rockets. SES has ordered another new satellite, SES 17, since releasing this graphic, but a launcher has not been contracted for that mission. Credit: SES

He said the Falcon 9 booster assigned to the SES 10 launch has completed an engine hotfire on the test stand in McGregor, Texas. The stage required some refurbishment, but Halliwell did not go into details.
None of the nine Merlin engines from the April 8 launch were replaced on the stage ahead of the SES 10 launch, he said.
The Merlin 1D engines were already qualified for multiple flights, but SpaceX's testing this year has focused on the resiliency of the overall booster stage, comprising tanks and welded structures, to withstand two or more flights.
A separate Falcon 9 first stage recovered after a subsequent launch in May has been test-fired in McGregor seven times since late July.
One of the parts of the rocket SpaceX engineers were most concerned about earlier in the reuse initiative was the bottom of the booster, wh ere the nine Merlin engines are mounted with their intricate plumbing. That part of the rocket points forward during the Falcon 9's descent, subjecting it to high re-entry temperatures and the effects of the engine plume during braking burns guiding the first stage to its landing target.
But SES says the rocket for SES 10 looks good.
"It is in extraordinarily good condition," Halliwell said. "I thought there would be significant damage at the aft end. Absolutely not. It was in really good shape."
Four of seven satellites SES has under construction are contracted to launch aboard SpaceX Falcon 9 rockets. Another two will blast off on Ariane 5 launchers, while a telecom craft ordered from manufacturer Thales Alenia Space earlier this month has not been assigned for launch services.
Before the Sept. 1 pad explosion, the SES 10 and SES 11 satellites were supposed to launch on Falcon 9 rockets before the end of the year. Both spacecraft are finished with ground testing at Airbus Defense and Space's satellite factory in Toulouse, France, and awaiting shipment to Cape Canaveral.
Halliwell said the SES 11 satellite will fly on an all-new Falcon 9 booster.

[Apollo13]

Ступень для SES-10 оказывается уже тоже прожигали в Макгрегоре.

[Salo]

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-launch-schedule-delays-2016-9

[LRV_75]

Salo пишет:
http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-launch-schedule-delays-2016-9

Как я понял из статьи, SpaceX не желает публичного расследования, ссылаясь на статьи закона

[Дмитрий З.]

LRV_75 пишет:

Salo пишет:
 http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-launch-schedule-delays-2016-9

Как я понял из статьи, SpaceX не желает публичного расследования, ссылаясь на статьи закона

Где там такое написано? Не вижу ничего подобного в статье.

[Наперстянка]

Salo пишет:
http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-launch-schedule-delays-2016-9

    Это она сука шаровую молнию кинула, ее на болотах застукали на сборе этой гадости. Целую ступу набрала, сволочь!

[Bell]

Дмитрий З. пишет:

LRV_75 пишет:

Salo пишет:
 http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-launch-schedule-delays-2016-9

Как я понял из статьи, SpaceX не желает публичного расследования, ссылаясь на статьи закона

Где там такое написано? Не вижу ничего подобного в статье.

The US government allows closed-door rocket mishap investigations like this through a special federal law, though with some oversight by the FAA.
 As Dan Leone wrote at SpaceNews in August 2015, following SpaceX's previous failure, the company reportedly told him:
 "[C]ompany-led investigations are standard operating procedure when it comes to launch 'mishaps,' which are legally distinct from launch 'accidents' under U.S. federal law. A mishap, SpaceX said in its legalese-laden communique, involves 'no third-party loss, no flight line deviation, and no loss of life.'"
 But not all is hunky-dory within the federal government about such a setup, as Samantha Masunaga and Melody Petersen reported for the Los Angeles Times:
 "In June, NASA's Office of Inspector General said that having SpaceX do its own investigation 'raises questions about inherent conflicts of interest.'
 The internal investigation could leave out contributing factors that 'may not be fully addressed to prevent future failures,' the watchdog warned."

[LRV_75]

Дмитрий З. пишет:

LRV_75 пишет:

Salo пишет:
 http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-launch-schedule-delays-2016-9

Как я понял из статьи, SpaceX не желает публичного расследования, ссылаясь на статьи закона

Где там такое написано? Не вижу ничего подобного в статье.

Вы типа тролль?


The new team's composition appears to be much different from the one that looked into SpaceX's rocket launch failure on June 28, 2015. For that accident - in which a Falcon 9 rocket blew up in mid-flight - the company enlisted 11 of its employees and one FAA employee, and the group never made its findings public.
The US government allows closed-door rocket mishap investigations like this through a special federal law, though with some oversight by the FAA.

и далее ...

"In June, NASA's Office of Inspector General said that having SpaceX do its own investigation 'raises questions about inherent conflicts of interest.' The internal investigation could leave out contributing factors that 'may not be fully addressed to prevent future failures,' the watchdog warned."

[LRV_75]

Мда, дружище Илон, покорять космос это не веб сайтик запилить 

[Kap]

LRV_75 пишет:
Мда, дружище Илон, покорять космос это не веб сайтик запилить

Бабах от Боинга:

ИЧСХ 7 жмуров против 0 у Маска.

[silentpom]

на старте бывало и куда хуже чем 7 человек