Ракеты Джеффа Безоса

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Большой

12.09.2016 20:15:06 Последнее редактирование: 12.09.2016 21:16:27 от Большой
Джефф Безос анонсировал разработку семейства новых ракет, названных в честь первых американских астронавтов: Гленна (первый орбитальный полёт), Армстронга (певая высадка на Луну)
ЦитатаPARIS -- Jeff Bezos announced Sept. 1 that Blue Origin is developing a family of orbital rockets it's calling New Glenn.
Both the two-stage and three-stage versions of the rocket would stand taller than the United Launch Alliance Delta 4 Heavy and SpaceX Falcon Heavy, according to the infographic the Blue Origin and Amazon.com founder tweeted.

Both New Glenn 2 and New Glenn 3 would be powered by a cluster of seven liquid-natural-gas-fueled BE-4 engines of the sort the Kent, Washington-based company is currently developing for United Launch Alliance's planned Vulcan semi-reusable rocket.
"Building, flying, landing, and re-flying New Shepard has taught us so much about how to design for practical, operable reusability," Bezos wrote in a Sept. 12 email. "And New Glenn incorporates all of those learnings."
"Named in honor of John Glenn, the first American to orbit Earth, New Glenn is 23 feet in diameter and lifts off with 3.85 million pounds of thrust from seven BE-4 engines. Burning liquefied natural gas and liquid oxygen, these are the same BE-4 engines that will power United Launch Alliance's new Vulcan rocket.
"The 2-stage New Glenn is 270 feet tall, and its second stage is powered by a single vacuum-optimized BE-4 engine. The 3-stage New Glenn is 313 feet tall. A single vacuum-optimized BE-3 engine, burning liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, powers its third stage. The booster and the second stage are identical in both variants.
"We plan to fly New Glenn for the first time before the end of this decade from historic Launch Complex 36 at Cape Canaveral, Florida. New Glenn is designed to launch commercial satellites and to fly humans into space. The 3-stage variant - with its high specific impulse hydrogen upper stage - is capable of flying demanding beyond-LEO missions.
"Our vision is millions of people living and working in space, and New Glenn is a very important step. It won't be the last of course. Up next on our drawing board: New Armstrong. But that's a story for the future."
http://spacenews.com/blue-origin-to-follow-suborbital-new-shepard-with-orbital-new-glenn/
Я верю тому кто ищет истину, и не верю тому, который говорит, что нашёл её...

RustemNur

http://www.gazeta.ru/science/news/2016/09/12/n_9103775.shtml
ЦитатаОснователь и глава Amazon Джефф Безос, который также является руководителем компании Blue Origin, анонсировал проект новой тяжелой возвращаемой ракеты многократного использования под названием New Glenn, которая должна составить конкуренцию ракетам серии Falcon компании SpaceX и других аналогов, передает Reuters.
«New Glenn разработана для запуска коммерческих спутников и отправки экипажа в космос», -- сказал Безос.
Уточняется, что Blue Origin разрабатывает две версии ракеты. Компания ведет строительство пусковой площадки и испытательного полигона. На мысе Канаверал ведется строительство пусковой площадки и испытательного полигона, а в Космическом центре имени Джона Кеннеди появится завод по производству ракетоносителей.
На форуме прошу обращаться ко мне на "ты". Спасибо.

Большой

Отделим зёрна от плевел 8)
Я верю тому кто ищет истину, и не верю тому, который говорит, что нашёл её...

Apollo13

Кажется первый раз заявлено, что планируется запускать коммерческие спутники.

Seerndv

12.09.2016 20:39:41 #4 Последнее редактирование: 12.09.2016 21:43:02 от Seerndv
ЦитатаJeff Bezos just unveiled his new rocket. And it's a monster.

By Christian Davenport September 12 at 10:15 AM 

Jeff Bezos' Blue origin unveiled details of its New Glenn rocket with a chart showing how it compares to other orbital-class rockets. (Image courtesy of Blue Origin)

The New Shepard rocket that Blue Origin has been launching and landing is a fairly modest thing, 65 feet high, capable of getting just past the edge of space, some 60 miles up. But on Monday, Jeff Bezos' space company announced the design of its new, orbital rocket, a towering, more powerful behemoth designed to take people and commercial satellites to orbit.
In a blog post, Bezos, who also owns The Washington Post, said the New Glenn rocket would come in two variants--a two stage and a three stage--that would be ready to fly by the end of the decade. Powered by seven BE-4 engines, they would have 3.85 million pounds of thrust at sea level. The rocket would be nearly as tall as the mighty, Apollo-era Saturn V that ferried the Apollo astronauts to the moon.
"Our vision is millions of people living and working in space, and New Glenn is a very important step," Bezos wrote.
The announcement comes at a critical time for the commercial space industry, which aims to reduce the cost of spaceflight and open it up to the masses. Last week, Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic, performed the first test flight of its new spacecraft, SpaceShipTwo, as it prepares to take paying customers into space. And Blue Origin, which also promises to move into the space tourism market, plans to fly a critical test flight of New Shepard, its suborbital rocket, next month.
Last week, the industry was jolted when SpaceX, the leader in the so-called New Space movement, suffered a catastrophic failure, when its Falcon 9 rocket ignited while on a Cape Canaveral launch pad and blew up in a spectacular fireball. The company is grounded while investigators try to determine the cause of the explosion, and that could lead to a delay of a launch of its new massive rocket, the Falcon Heavy.
Like the reusable New Shepard, the New Glenn's first stage would also be capable of boosting its payload into space, then flying back to the Earth for a soft landing. Bezos has said that being able to reuse rockets, instead of discarding them after each use as has traditionally been the case, is a key step toward lowering the cost of space travel. SpaceX, founded by Elon Musk, has already landed several orbital-class first stages on land or on ships at sea.
In the statement, Bezos wrote that the company's mascot is a tortoise, a symbol from the fable the Tortoise and the Hare. Its motto is "Gradatim Ferociter" - Latin for "step by step, ferociously," he wrote. "We believe 'slow is smooth and smooth is fast.' In the long run, deliberate and methodical wins the day, and you do things quickest by never skipping steps," he wrote.

Bezos said the company plans to launch the New Glenn rocket from Cape Canaveral's Launch Complex 36, which it is refurbishing.
The naming for Blue Origin's rockets is a nod for the 60s-era Space Age, a time that Bezos has said has had a profound influence on him. New Shepard was named for Alan Shepard, who became the first American in space in 1961. A year later, NASA astronaut John Glenn pushed the boundary even further when he became the first American in orbit, circling the globe three times.
Then in 1969, Neil Armstrong became the first man to walk on the moon, which Bezos said would inspire his next venture.
While getting to orbit is a key step, he said it won't be the company's last: "Up next on our drawing board: New Armstrong. But that's a story for the future."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/09/12/jeff-bezos-just-unveiled-his-new-rocket-and-its-a-monster/?tid=sm_tw


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LRV_75

ЦитатаБольшой пишет:
Отделим зёрна от плевел
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Главное не наличие проблем, главное способность их решать.
У каждой ошибки есть Имя и Фамилия

Salo

ЦитатаApollo13 пишет:
Кажется первый раз заявлено, что планируется запускать коммерческие спутники.
А на OLV не собирались? Кстати, какова её судьба?
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Salo

Так это выглядело год назад:
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/missions/commercial/blue-origins-very-big-brother-heralds-firms-operations-at-slc-36b/
ЦитатаBlue Origin's 'Very Big Brother' heralds firm's operations at SLC-36B
Jason Rhian
September 15th, 2015             
image: http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/3104-blue_origin_announcement_about_slc36-jason_rhian.jpg

Blue Origin's founder, Jeff Bezos unveils his firm's new launch vehicle, which he called "Very Big Brother" as Florida's Governor, Rick Scott looks on. The announcement that Blue Origin would begin operations at Cape Canaveral's Launch Complex 36B was made during an event hosted at the historic site on Sept. 15, 2015. Photo Credit: Jason Rhian / SpaceFlight Insider
 
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla -- Blue Origin's founder, Jeff Bezos, announced today that his company has sel ected Cape Canaveral as the launch site of his firm's new orbital launch vehicle. The announcement was made on Tuesday, Sept. 15, and confirmed what several officials involved with the industry have been saying for some time - the Cape is now a multi-user spaceport.
Blue Origin will share Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Space Launch Complex 36 with Google Lunar X PRIZE team Moon Express (MoonEx). MoonEx will utilize the "A" portion of SLC-36, and Blue Origin will use the "B" side for various aspects of the company's operations, fr om testing to launching.
Bezos detailed how the Washington-based aerospace company will carry out many of its operations fr om SLC-36B. That includes the testing of the BE-3 and BE-4 rocket engines, as well as launching the new booster that Bezos unveiled today.

image: http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/3105-blue_origin_announcement_about_slc36-jason_rhian-655x437.jpg

Bezos provided details about the new launch system in that it would use his firm's BE-3 and BE-4 rocket engines, be a Vertical Takeoff and Vertical Landing design - and that it is meant to have its first stage recovered. Photo Credit: Jason Rhian / SpaceFlight Insider
 
At present, the booster has the humorous nickname (within the company) of "Very Big Brother". Similarly, rival aerospace firm SpaceX took to naming their rocket "Falcon" after the Millennium Falcon of Star Wars fame and their spacecraft "Dragon" for Puff the Magic Dragon (after detractors deemed the company's offerings to be something based on fantasy). Bezos has stated that this is not the rocket's permanent name and that something new will be released soon. He also suggested that the rocket could be used to send satellites and crews aloft as well.
Bezos described "Very Big Brother" (VBB) as being a VTVL system - vertical takeoff, vertical landing. Blue Origin has knowledge and experience with this type of system, gained from their New Shepard program. The rocket's lower stage is planned to be reusable with the upper stage being expendable. VBB will be powered by the liquid oxygen/liquid hydrogen BE-3 rocket, engine, as well as the liquid oxygen/liquid natural gas BE-4 engine, which Bezos described as being able to provide some 550,000 lbf (2.45 MN) of thrust.
Bezos, perhaps best known as the founder of the online media store Amazon, has expanded his Blue Origin aerospace company from not only offering suborbital tourist access to space but also to orbital boosters and rocket engines - including the BE-3 and BE-4. Theses engines have caught the eye of launch service provider United Launch Alliance (ULA). The BE-4 is being considered for use on the first stage of the firm's new Vulcan Next Generation Launch System booster. With the BE-3 being considered for the rocket's Advanced Cryogenic Evolved Stage (ACES) upper stage.
During his remarks, Bezos noted that SLC-36 has an extensive launch history, with numerous missions having taken to Florida's skies between 1962 and 2004.
"Our new home on the Space Coast is anchored by the launch site at Complex 36. During its 43 years of service, 145 launches thundered into space from this site. The Mariner missions - the first U.S. spacecraft to visit other planets - lifted off from Complex 36. So did Pioneer 10, the first spacecraft to travel through the asteroid belt; Surveyor 1, the first U.S. spacecraft to land softly on the Moon; and multiple weather, communications, and national defense payloads hopped their rides to space from LC-36. The site saw its last launch in 2005 and the pad has stood silent for more than 10 years - too long. We can't wait to fix that," Bezos said.
His statements garnered the NewSpace entrepreneur with a standing ovation. The billionaire's announcement also drew high praise from the State's chief elected official.
"This is an exciting day for space exploration... their base of operations is going to be in the great State of Florida, not in the other 50 states, but in the great State of Florida," said Florida's Governor Rick Scott during a question and answer session held after the presentation. "They're going to add 330 new jobs... and on top of that, they're going to invest $200 million into this community."
When asked when Bezos thought that the site would be ready, his response was, "Before the end of the decade."

image: http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/3106-blue_origin_announcement_about_slc36-jason_rhian-655x528.jpg

Florida's current Governor Rick Scott thanked Florida's Speaker of the House of Representatives Steve Crisafulli for seeing this agreement reach fruition. Photo Credit: Jason Rhian / SpaceFlight Insider
 
"This was a competitive process; we went into detailed negotiations with five different states, and we chose Florida for various reasons. One of those is it is geographically advantageous for launch; another is there is a great pool of talent here to hire from," Bezos said. "We want to build our vehicles here, and transporting them around the country isn't logical... there's really no better place to launch space vehicles fr om - than the Space Coast."
Bezos noted that while much of his company's operations might move to Florida, he still plans on having their New Shepard launch system lift off from West Texas.
"Blue Origin is a great company, and they've developed an amazing vehicle; they're going to be a major player in commercial space flight; they're going to be a major player in aerospace, in general," Florida Senator Thad Altman (R-Rockledge) told SpaceFlight Insider. "For them to select Brevard County (wh ere the Space Coast is located) is huge for us, and I think it's going to be huge for them too. To design, build and launch rockets - there's no better place for them to be than right here, wh ere it all began, at Kennedy Space Center."
Altman went on to note that he thought the number of launch service providers located on the Space Coast was likely to grow. The view that today's events were precipitous was echoed by another official in attendance, one who has already ridden rockets to orbit - twice.
"It's very, very exciting what's happening here today, it's testimony of, not only the diversification of what we're doing here at Cape Canaveral and Kennedy Space Center, but it's also showing the continuing leadership in space exploration efforts of the State of Florida," former shuttle astronaut, U.S. Navy Captain and current Florida Institute of Technology representative Winston Scott told SpaceFlight Insider. "What's happening here today has its origins many, many years ago when people with the State of Florida began courting the private, commercial companies - and we see that coming to fruition now."
Wednesday's event included several presenters who, besides, Scott and Bezos, included U.S. Senator Bill Nelson (D-Fla), the Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives Steve Crisafulli, the Executive Director of the Florida Department of Economic Development Jesse Panuccia, the Director of NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Robert Cabana, the Vice Commander of the 14th Air Force, Brigadier General Steven Garland, the Commissioner of District 1, Brevard County Robin Fisher, the President and CEO of the Florida Power & Light Company Eric Silagy, and Space Florida's President and CEO Frank DiBello - who served as the event's emcee.
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Salo

"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Salo

Походу OLV, Very Big Brother и New Glenn похоже одна сатана.
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Cepёгa

А где ТТХ? До 20-го года хотят успеть сделать многоразовый метановый 40-тонник?

Salo

3.85 million pounds = 1746 тс
При тяговооружённости 1,2 получаем стартовую массу 1746 тс / 1,2 = 1455 т.
В одноразовом варианте это ПН около 50 т.
С возвращаемой первой ступенью около 35 т.
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Cepёгa

12.09.2016 22:38:41 #12 Последнее редактирование: 12.09.2016 22:44:05 от Cepёгa
Ну там же явно видно, что первая ступень - многоразовая. Так что, больше 40 тонн на НОО врядли выйдет. При таких то габаритах...

7 двигателей. Видимо 6 по краям + 1 в центре для возврата.

Salo

Прямой конкурент Falcon Heavy.
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Apollo13

ЦитатаSalo пишет:
ЦитатаApollo13 пишет:
Кажется первый раз заявлено, что планируется запускать коммерческие спутники.
А на OLV не собирались? Кстати, какова её судьба?
Вроде всегда речь шла только о пилотируемых полетах.

Salo

12.09.2016 23:15:08 #15 Последнее редактирование: 12.09.2016 23:15:36 от Salo
Это другой аппарат SV:
 
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Apollo13

ЦитатаSalo пишет:
Это другой аппарат SV:
Понятно что нужен еще и корабль. Но раньше речи о запусках коммерческих спутников как-то не было. После анонса Вулкана Тори Бруно спрашивали не боится ли он конкуренции с Безосом, на что он отвечал, что Блю Ориджин более заинтереснованы в пилотируемых полетах.

Salo

На плакате выше предложены две разные орбитальные системы. Причём нарисована SV.
Если сравнить картинку с OLV, то разница налицо. 
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Apollo13

13.09.2016 00:07:08 #18 Последнее редактирование: 13.09.2016 00:08:15 от Apollo13
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
На плакате выше предложены две разные орбитальные системы. Причём нарисована SV.
Если сравнить картинку с OLV, то разница налицо.
На картинке SV находится поверх OLV

Salo

Значит планы поменялись. Картинка OLV от 2015 года скорее напоминает нынешний двухступенчатый New Glenn.
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"