Dream Chaser - NASA коммерческий контракт с SpaceDev

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http://observer.com/2016/10/dream-chaser-the-spacecraft-that-will-transform-humanitys-access-to-space/
Dream Chaser: The Spacecraft That Will Transform Humanity's Access to Space
The United Nations is set to launch a revolutionary global space program
By Robin Seemangal • 10/03/16 3:44pm
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To learn about the Dream Chaser's development and the possibilities that will emerge because of the UN's partnership with SNC, the Observer sat down with, Mark Sirangelo, the Colorado-based company's Vice President and the pioneer behind this groundbreaking project.
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What is the process to become qualified?

They have to go through the FAA, it's like qualifying to be an airport. Interesting enough, two have gone through most of the process. One is in Houston, Texas and the other is in Huntsville, Alabama—a commercial airport. We realized that we've got something special because we're the only vehicle that can do this.

That's when we began looking beyond NASA to see what else we could do with the Dream Chaser. We asked ourselves, what can we do for business? And what can we do for the good of humanity? So we started looking at ways for providing the vehicle.

NASA or the US Government does not own the vehicle, so we can do other things with it. We could contract it out to other countries who would like to have a space program, other space agencies, companies that may want to do manufacturing in space. So one of the ideas we came up with to show how Dream Chaser could do good for the world was our new partnership with the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs.
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What other ways could a nation benefit from utilizing this program?

When people send experiments to space, they don't usually come home. Just the data does. And that's because there isn't a vehicle with the ability to do that. Dream Chaser would come home with the scientific hardware it takes up. This means that countries that invest in their experiments would be able to retrieve it and be able to update or fix it and we can fly it again. It's a very unique concept. Plus, landing anywhere in the world could be a big deal for a developing nation—to have scientific experiments from space land in your home country.

По последнему абзацу, а то кто-то укусил меня на форуме
Да

"The Dream Chaser SUV is the only reusable, lifting-body spacecraft with a commercial runway landing capability anywhere in the world – offering safe, affordable, flexible and reliable transportation to space," said Mark Sirangelo, corporate vice president of SNC's space systems business area.

Он сейчас планируется как единственный коммерческий lifting-body spacecraft, X-37B не берем, он у вояк. Забываем про российские Бионы. Но коммерческий корабль способный возвращать с орбиты уже есть - называется Дракон. Но кроме как к МКС он не не летает. А какие картинки для него рисовали....

[silentpom]

где вы у x-37 увидели лифтинг боди?

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Хорошо, был не прав. Заменяем эти слова на аппарат имеющий возможность доставлять и возвращать из космоса полезную нагрузку.

[silentpom]

я бы перевел "only reusable, lifting-body spacecraft " как "единственный повторно используемый аппарат с несущим корпусом". что совершенная правда.

то что есть не лифтинг боди реюзабл, ну да есть, но умелое использование одного уточнения делает фразу верной и запоминающейся

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Ох. ну и подробности к истории кто у кого взял

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4220/ch9.htm
SP-4220 Wingless Flight: The Lifting Body Story
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Lifting-Body Concept Goes International

The NASA lifting-body program has been well documented in about 100 technical reports on the program's 222 flights and 20,000 hours of wind-tunnel tests. Many of these publications are unclassified. The Soviet Union purchased copies of these reports from NASA Headquarters in Washington, D.C., then designed its own lifting body. In 1982, the Soviets flight-tested an unpiloted, 10-foot-long, subscale version of their lifting body, the BOR-4, including a maneuvering re-entry over the Indian Ocean from space orbit. The flight test of the BOR-4 closely resembled that of our PRIME (X-23) vehicle in 1966. The main difference between the two was that the BOR-4 was parachuted into the Indian Ocean for ship recovery, while the PRIME had been snatched from the air by a C-130 to avoid a splash down in the Pacific Ocean. There is no information available yet on whether the successor states of the former Soviet Union continued their work in the 1980s into larger-scale lifting bodies.

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Other than the Soviet flight experiments with the BOR-4, very little lifting-body design activity seems to have occurred in the 1980s. In the United States, the Shuttle satisfied all requirements for space flight. Even though the Soviets had built a copy of [181] our Shuttle, they flew it only once (unpiloted) and continued to rely on parachute recovery for their spacecraft.

As the concept of an International Space Station emerged in the United States and other countries, however, interest revived in lifting-body configurations. Countries involved in or entering space exploration accepted that the International Space Station was required if mankind were to maintain a presence in space in preparing to send human beings to Mars and other planets or to revisit the moon. Smaller vehicles costing less to operate would be needed over many decades for the International Space Station. The small, compact shapes of lifting-body configurations began to show up on engineering sketch pads and drawing boards for use as space ferries or emergency lifeboats.

Other countries entering the realm of space technology have also demonstrated interest in lifting bodies for various projected space missions. For example, the Japanese conducted hypersonic re-entry flight tests with parachute recovery during February 1997 of the HYFLEX, an unpiloted lifting body. The French also have indicated that they are doing mission studies using lifting bodies.

HL-20 Lifting-Body Space Ferry

During 1990-1995, NASA Langley conducted studies on a new lifting-body shape designated the HL-20, designed to meet the projected need for a low-cost transportation system to ferry personnel between Earth and future space stations. As part of the NASA Langley study, personnel at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical University and North Carolina State University built a full-scale mockup of the HL-20 in 1990.

Designed to carry ten people into orbit and back, the HL-20 would be considerably smaller and lighter than the present Shuttle, the large size of the Shuttle being unnecessary for many of these future missions involved with transporting personnel to and from space stations and with delivering supplies to space stations. The projected HL-20 would be only 31 feet long and weigh 32,448 pounds, considerably smaller and lighter than the Shuttle, which is about 122 feet long and weighs over 171,000 pounds without its propellants, external tank, and solid rocket boosters. The HL-20 would be boosted into orbit by a Titan III rocket system, a system smaller than the Shuttle's rocket system.
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pnetmon пишет:
Не убъет ли так ЕКА свой проект многоразового lifting-body spacecraft...

Строго наоборот. Кооперация с SNC подняла шансы дальнейшего финансирования собственной программы (Space Rider,эволюции IXV), которая должна занять, к тому же, другую нишу.

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Скриншоты с выступления на симпозиуме Wernher von Braun Memorial Symposium 2016 http://astronautical.org/dev/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016-VB-Program-Draft-Website-6.pdf 
выступление по 
4:00 pm Commercial Cargo and Crew Partnerships 
Moderator: Phil McAlister, Director of Commercial Spaceflight Development, NASA Headquarters Panelists: 
 Frank DeMauro, Vice President & General Manager, Advanced Programs Division, Space Systems Group, Orbital ATK 
 Gregg Burgess, Vice President of Engineering and Technology, Space Systems Group, Sierra Nevada Corporation 
 Peter McGrath, Director, Global Sales & Marketing, Boeing Space Exploration 
 Josh Brost, Director of Government Business Development, SpaceX

 https://livestream.com/accounts/563450/events/6533675/videos/140223816 
Wednesday 3:45pm Session Part 2 


что-то пошло не так и картинок нету....
 

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Вопрос: на слайде №1 сабж стыкуется к IDA - значит система стыковки есть, на №4 сабж стыкуется при помощи "канадоруки" - значит системы автоматической стыковки нет; так будет или не будет?

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ken_park пишет:
Вопрос: на слайде №1 сабж стыкуется к IDA - значит система стыковки есть, на №4 сабж стыкуется при помощи "канадоруки" - значит системы автоматической стыковки нет; так будет или не будет?

Наверно как в этом ролике

[ken_park]

Regular пишет:

ken_park пишет:
Вопрос: на слайде №1 сабж стыкуется к IDA - значит система стыковки есть, на №4 сабж стыкуется при помощи "канадоруки" - значит системы автоматической стыковки нет; так будет или не будет?

 


Наверно как в этом ролике

Простите, но ролик не раскрыл тайны, вопрос по прежнему без ответа

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Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  2 ч.2 часа назад
Lueders: current plan is for Sierra Nevada Corp. to do next Dream Chaser glide flight test in March.

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Тут рускоязычный сайт ОНН сообщает, а за ним (или перед ним) и Известия -

22 ноября 2016, 19:49
Миссия ООН отправится в космос в 2021 году. Сейчас ООН ведет переговоры с компанией Sierra Nevada (SNC) по поводу проведения первой в истории совместной миссии. Планируется, что сотрудники ООН отправятся в открытый космос на борту шаттла Dream Chaser. Вице-президент SNC Марк Сиранджело рассказал о сотрудничестве ООН и его компании. Он принял участие в форуме высокого уровня по вопросам освоения космического пространства и экономического развития, который проходит в Дубае, ОАЭ.

Англоязычный такими шокирующими подробностью не обладает

Dubai Space Forum: SNC's Dream Chaser Spacecraft to Fly UN Mission in 2021 ....
Preparations are underway between the United Nations and Sierra Nevada Corporation's Space Systems (SNC) for a first ever collaborative space mission in 2021, with SNC's Dream Chaser spacecraft. At a high level forum in Dubai, UAE, about Space as a Driver for Socio-Economic Sustainable Development, SNC Corporate Vice President Mark Sirangelo spoke to UN News Centre about the company's collaboration with the world body on its maiden space mission.

 
Dubai Space Forum: SNC's Dream Chaser Spacecraft to Fly UN Mission in 2021
Published on Nov 21, 2016
Preparations are underway between the United Nations and Sierra Nevada Corporation's Space Systems (SNC) for a first ever collaborative space mission in 2021. The mission will be carried out with SNC's Dream Chaser spacecraft. At a high level forum in Dubai, UAE, about Space as a Driver for Socio-Economic Sustainable Development, SNC Corporate Vice President Mark Sirangelo spoke to UN News Centre about the company's collaboration with the world body on its maiden space mission.

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Из найденного в твиттере

https://twitter.com/UNOOSA/status/800957513654898688
UNOOSA‏@UNOOSA
11:02 - 22 нояб. 2016 г.
At #HLF, @SierraNevCorp presents the #SNCDreamChaser, which will be used in our partnership w SNC 2 launch 1st UN space mission #space4sdgs

https://twitter.com/UNOOSA/status/801024931500818432
Our partnership w @SierraNevCorp fits into the 4 pillars of #HLF & Space2030: space accessibility, diplomacy, economy & society #space4sdgs
15:30 - 22 нояб. 2016 г.

https://twitter.com/UN/status/800958259016310784
Hear @SierraNevCorp VP talk about its partnership with @UNOOSA to work with "emerging space countries" on a special mission. #HLF
SNC's Dream Chaser Spacecraft to Fly UN Mission in 2021
Preparations are underway between the United Nations and Sierra Nevada Corporation's Space Systems for a first ever collaborative space mission in 2021.
11:05 - 22 нояб. 2016 г.

https://twitter.com/timmermansr/status/800938973120102400
"Your logo here". Commercial space companies enabling global access to space. Nice one @SierraNevCorp! #HLF

9:48 - 22 нояб. 2016 г.

https://twitter.com/cpl43uk/status/800938684753334272
Saccani from SNC describing how Dream Chaser can help UN meet Sustainable Devt Goals. Interesting argument-access to space @spacegovuk #HLF

9:47 - 22 нояб. 2016 г.

https://twitter.com/Giovannisylos/status/800937962133405696
#HLF @SierraNevCorp presented reusable access to space
9:44 - 22 нояб. 2016 г.

Занятное видео в конце - что там у грузового отсека?

Программа форума  http://www.unoosa.org/documents/doc/hlf/1st_hlf_Dubai/UN_UAE_HLF_Programme_FINAL.pdf
SNC частно упоминается в программе, полно космических агенств от США и Китая до Монголии. Упоминание России не нашел.

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 http://www.mrt.com/business/article/Dream-Chaser-10592111.php
Dream Chaser
By Trevor Hawes thawes@mrt.com
 Updated 10:21 am, Friday, November 4, 2016


Midland Development Corp.'s pursuit to diversify the city's economy through entry into the aerospace industry has reached another milestone, this time with a major, well-established player.
Sierra Nevada Corp. announced Thursday at Midland International Air & Space Port that the city's spaceport is a prime place to land its Dream Chaser, an in-development space utility vehicle that is contracted by NASA to deliver payloads to and fr om the International Space Station beginning in 2020.
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"We've designed it for a lot of missions, not just taking cargo up," said John Roth, SNC vice president of Business Development and Strategy, during a presentation. "We can do stand-alone science missions ... wh ere we can have free-flying microgravity experiments. We can do satellite service like the space shuttle was able to do on Hubble missions. We can do orbital debris removal. There are some big, dead satellites up in space that folks are worried about, creating large debris fields; we can recapture those with robotic arms."
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Вечная тема...

Maкс пишет: Через 12 лет создан на основе увеличенной копии советского аппарата Бoр, аппарат на 7 человек Бегущий за мечтой (Dream Chaser).

Случайно наткнулся
The Paris Air Show: Fashions of the Air - 1967 Airplane Documentary

 


А казалось, живя в СССР, России, все у них было секретно...

Однако - авиашоу пишут 1967 года. А первый полет с планированием апрель 1969 года.

[Дмитрий Виницкий]

Спасибо! С огромным удовольствием посмотрел.

[Виктор Левашов]

А почему бы Чизеру не сделать нос, как у Б-747 Карго.
Поднимающимся.
А внутри СУ.
И попой не надо двигаться.
можно наоборот, опускающимся вниз и назад.
Чтобы лобовое стекло не закрывать.

[Виктор Левашов]

ken_park пишет:
Вопрос: на слайде №1 сабж стыкуется к IDA - значит система стыковки есть, на №4 сабж стыкуется при помощи "канадоруки" - значит системы автоматической стыковки нет; так будет или не будет?

а зачем? если рука есть.
безопаснее, мне думается, рукой.

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Виктор Левашов пишет:

ken_park пишет:
Вопрос: на слайде №1 сабж стыкуется к IDA - значит система стыковки есть, на №4 сабж стыкуется при помощи "канадоруки" - значит системы автоматической стыковки нет; так будет или не будет?

а зачем? если рука есть.
безопаснее, мне думается, рукой.

на сколько мне видится, стыковка манипулятором для корабля с людьми не допустима с точки зрения безопасности

и вот еще:

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NASA Commercial Crew ‏@Commercial_Crew 5 ч5 часов назад
The @SierraNevCorp #DreamChaser arrived at @NASAArmstrong for months of Commercial Crew testing. Learn more: http://go.nasa.gov/2jCYZfL