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ЦитироватьChris G - NSF‏ @CwG_NSF (https://twitter.com/CwG_NSF)  3h (https://twitter.com/CwG_NSF/status/919190742790262786)

Interesting. #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) has an approved license for 10 Nov launch from LC39A w/ RTLS LZ-1 landing. No known payload is a match. #MysteryPayload (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MysteryPayload?src=hash)

ЦитироватьMy sources tell me the flight is named ZUMA. The flight is extremely critical because a successful one would mean lots of potential future revenue. Launch date is slated for November 15th due to slight slip in testing.

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
Очередной уникальный NROL?

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
Очередной уникальный NROL?

А может что-то типа Х-37, коли еще много заказов в случае успеха ожидается ?

Цитировать"Вторая эскадрилья - на старт!"

ЦитироватьRegulatory filings suggest SpaceX plans November launch with mystery payload
October 14, 2017 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/10/) Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

Information found in federal regulatory filings suggest SpaceX plans to conduct a Falcon 9 rocket launch as soon as mid-November with an unidentified payload that has so far escaped public disclosure.

It is unusual for such a mission to remain secret so close to launch, and there has been no public claim of ownership for the payload — codenamed Zuma — from any government or commercial institution.

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File photo of a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket at launch pad 39A in Florida. Credit: SpaceX

SpaceX did not respond to questions on the mission Saturday, but an application submitted by the launch company to the Federal Communications Commission says the flight will use a Falcon 9 booster launched from pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

The existence of the mission was first reported on NASASpaceflight.com Saturday, but the FCC filings are public record.

SpaceX must apply for special authority from the FCC to authorize the company to use telemetry transmitters and receivers to track the Falcon 9 rocket in flight.

Two filings concern the secretive launch next month, one (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80568&RequestTimeout=1000) for the Falcon 9's liftoff and climb into orbit from Florida's Space Coast, and another (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=80217&RequestTimeout=1000) for the first stage booster's planned return to Landing Zone 1 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station for refurbishment and reuse.

The launch could occur as soon as Nov. 10, according to information in the FCC applications.

The identity and the purpose of the Zuma payload remain secret.

With rare exceptions, U.S. government agencies have claimed ownership of the country's top secret spy satellites. The National Reconnaissance Office began acknowledging launches of its missions in the 1990s, but the spy satellite agency does not typically reveal details about its programs.

The NRO has two more missions on its manifest this year — codenamed NROL-52 and NROL-47 — launching on an Atlas 5 rocket Sunday and a Delta 4 booster in December.

Two mysterious satellites launched by Atlas 5 rockets in 2009 and 2014 did not fit the mold of most U.S. government spy missions.

Known only by the names PAN and CLIO, the satellites were not claimed by the NRO or any other agency. They were built by Lockheed Martin for an undisclosed U.S. government customer, and climbed into geostationary orbit more than 22,000 miles above the equator.

PAN parked alongside commercial communications satellites over the Middle East, intercepting voice and data traffic to support U.S. intelligence-gathering and military efforts in the region, according to documents released by Edward Snowden and published in 2016.

CLIO is suspected to have a similar eavesdropping mission.

But Zuma's owner — commercial or government — has not been revealed, and Falcon 9 launches into high-altitude geostationary-type orbits populated by communications satellites typically use more of the rocket's propellant reserve, requiring landings on vessels at sea, and not on land.

Earth-imaging satellites that fly in lower orbits normally launch into polar orbits providing more global coverage. Such payloads flying on Falcon 9 rockets usually take off from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, but launch trajectories to the northeast from Cape Canaveral have been used for some NRO satellites in high-inclination low Earth orbits, most recently in May when a Falcon 9 rocket launched from Florida placed a secretive payload 250 miles above Earth for the government's spy satellite operator.

SpaceX is developing its own satellites for global Internet service, but the first two test craft are not scheduled for launch until next year.

The mysterious Zuma launch next month will come after a scheduled Falcon 9 flight Oct. 30 with the Koreasat 5A communications satellite, a commercial spacecraft owned by KTsat of South Korea.

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The Koreasat 5A and Zuma missions are slated to take off from launch pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. Both flights are expected to use newly-built Falcon 9 booster stages.
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ЦитироватьSpaceX adds mystery "Zuma" mission, Iridium-4 aims for Vandenberg landing
October 16, 2017 by Chris Gebhardt

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In what has already been a busy year for SpaceX, the commercial launch provider is adding one more mission to its jammed-packed end-of-year schedule.  A mysterious mission codenamed "Zuma" will launch No Earlier Than 10 November 2017 from LC-39A at the Kennedy Space Center. Meanwhile, CRS-13 is slipping at least one week per the Station's schedule, and the Iridium NEXT-4 mission from Vandenberg has received permission to debut RTLS landing of the Falcon 9 booster back at SLC-4W.

SpaceX adds mystery "Zuma" mission:

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It's not often that one can point to a last-minute (from the public side) addition of a mission to a launch manifest – let alone one that manages to stay secret until 30 days before the opening of its launch campaign.

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But that is the case for a mystery Falcon 9 mission that is now set to launch between Koreasat-5A (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40947.0) and CRS-13/Dragon.

The mystery mission, codename Zuma, is known on its FCC launch license as Mission 1390 and will see a Falcon 9 rocket launch from LC-39A at the Kennedy Space Center (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=39A) before performing a RTLS (Return To Launch Site) landing at LZ-1 at Cape Canaveral.

The mission is a new addition to SpaceX's manifest and now appears to be the last flight off Pad 39A before the pad undergoes final configurations for the debut of the Falcon Heavy, which is still slated for NET (No Earlier Than) December 2017.

With such secrecy, the customer candidate for Zuma would normally be the U.S. government/military (i.e.: the National Reconnaissance Office or the Air Force); however, there is industry speculation claiming this is a "black commercial" mission.
 
Nonetheless, Zuma represents a likely rapid launch response from SpaceX for the satellite's operator.

While nothing is known of the payload, what is known is that Zuma will use Falcon 9 core B1043 – a brand new core that was originally (as understood by NASASpaceflight.com) intended for the CRS-13/Dragon mission (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42775.0).

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Цитировать(UPDATE: NASASpaceflight.com has confirmed that Northrop Grumman is the payload provider for Zuma through a commercial launch contract with SpaceX for a LEO satellite with a mission type labeled as "government" and a needed launch date range of 1-30 November 2017.)

ЦитироватьTim Fernholz‏ @TimFernholz (https://twitter.com/TimFernholz)  23m (https://twitter.com/TimFernholz/status/920394298121773057)

SpaceX has invited reporters to the mysterious Zuma launch. Intriguing!

ЦитироватьIrene Klotz‏ @Free_Space (https://twitter.com/Free_Space)  3h (https://twitter.com/Free_Space/status/920678861037297664)

Northrop confirms mystery #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) payload is US gov customer.
http://awin.aviationweek.com/ArticlesStory.aspx?id=785fe9ad-a15e-477d-8c7d-06f1cdc140d2

ЦитироватьSpaceX is targeting November for the launch of a Falcon 9 rocket from Kennedy Space Center on a mysterious mission codenamed "Zuma" for Northrop Grumman, according to federal filings and company statements.

SpaceX confirmed on Tuesday that pad 39A will play host to the secretive mission "no earlier than November," though the Air Force's 45th Space Wing said teams are targeting Nov. 16 for the launch.

The mission will include a first stage landing attempt at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Landing Zone 1, according to documents filed with the Federal Communications Commission seeking special temporary authority for "SpaceX Mission 1390." As usual, the Space Coast can expect the powerful reverberation of a sonic boom across the region as the booster descends shortly after liftoff.

Northrop Grumman confirmed to FLORIDA TODAY that it sel ected Falcon 9 for Zuma, which was described as a "government mission."

"The U.S. government assigned Northrop Grumman the responsibility of acquiring launch services for this mission," said Lon Rains, communications director at Northrop Grumman's Space Systems Division and Space Park Design Center of Excellence. "We have procured the Falcon 9 launch service from SpaceX."

"This event represents a cost effective approach to space access for government missions," he said.

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While further details on the spacecraft were not available, the landing does offer some clues – Falcon 9's ability to make the long trek back to the Cape indicates that it likely will not be a large, heavy payload, at least compared to other missions that require drone ship landings or expendable boosters.

Before Zuma takes flight, SpaceX is tasked with launching KT SAT's Koreasat-5A commercial communications satellite mission into a geostationary transfer orbit from KSC no earlier than Oct. 30 during a two-hour window that opens at 3:34 p.m. The Falcon 9's first stage is expected to target a drone ship landing.

The premiere flight of SpaceX's three-core Falcon Heavy rocket, which CEO Elon Musk said would launch from pad 39A in November, will seemingly be delayed due to Zuma's launch fr om the same pad. Teams are expected to take at least a few weeks to retrofit 39A for Falcon Heavy's much-vaunted first flight.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 1 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/928283083920601089)

Right now, Static Fire of the #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) is still set for Saturday in a window from 6p-12a EST. No effect anticipated, per SpaceX quote, on launch cadence. Zuma is still scheduled - right now - for NET 15 Nov. #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash)

ЦитироватьBoris Mekler пишет:
В порядке бреда - носитель кинетических элементов prompt global strike?

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185971.jpg) 45th Space Wing‏ @45thSpaceWing (https://twitter.com/45thSpaceWing) 11 ч назад (https://twitter.com/45thSpaceWing/status/928763643172474880)

Nov 15; window opens at 8 pm! A landing is planned at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station!
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67530.jpg) Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow) 9 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/929359024008695814)

SpaceX has positioned its next Falcon 9 rocket on the launch pad in Florida for a test-firing today. Liftoff of the Falcon 9 is set for no earlier than Wednesday. https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/11/falcon-9-zuma-launch-preps/ ... (https://t.co/wlMOgo8MSS)
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ЦитироватьUpd ated: 11/11/2017 17:29

SpaceX is set to test-fire its next Falcon 9 rocket at NASA's Kennedy Space Center on Saturday in preparation for the company's 17th launch of the year, a mission tentatively se t for liftoff Wednesday with a secretive payload named Zuma for the U.S. government.

The two-stage rocket is standing at launch pad 39A this morning without the payload on-board.

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SpaceX's launch team plans to load super-chilled, densified kerosene and liquid oxygen propellants into the Falcon 9 rocket this evening, then ignite the booster's nine main engines for several seconds while hold-down restraints keep the vehicle on the ground.

The test window for the static fire is expected to open at 6 p.m. EST (2300 GMT).

The prelaunch static fire test is a customary step in all SpaceX launch campaigns.

Once the firing is completed, the rocket will be rolled back to SpaceX's hangar at pad 39A to meet Zuma, a mysterious payload for the U.S. government. Little is known about the mission, including which government agency is in charge of it. Northrop Grumman said last month it arranged for the payload's launch with SpaceX on behalf of the government.

Liftoff with Zuma is scheduled during a two-hour window Wednesday that opens at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Thursday), but the final launch preparations will hinge on the outcome of today's static fire test.

Today's hotfire test comes less than two weeks after SpaceX's last launch from pad 39A on Oct. 30.

SpaceX plans to launch the following Falcon 9 flight from neighboring pad 40 in December, returning that launch complex to service for the first time since it was damaged in a rocket explosion last year.

Activity at pad 39A will focus on preparing for the first test flight of SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket, which could occur before the end of the year.

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ЦитироватьUpdated: 11/12/2017 01:46

Venting from the Falcon 9 indicates today's hot fire test of the nine Merlin engines is approaching.

11/12/2017 01:57

The strongback structure is moving to a position around 1.5 degrees from the Falcon 9 as the static fire test is a few minutes away.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/29831.jpg) William Harwood‏ @cbs_spacenews (https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews) 16 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/929486865098567680)

F9/Zuma: Falcon 9 hot-fire test as viewed from 3 miles away
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX‏Подлинная учетная запись @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) 13 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/929487948289937408)

Static fire test of Falcon 9 complete—targeting November 15 launch of Zuma from Pad 39A in Florida.

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SpaceX static fires Zuma Falcon 9; engine test anomaly no issue for manifest (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/11/spacex-static-fire-zuma-falcon-9-engine-no-issue-manifest/)

November 11, 2017 by Chris Gebhardt

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Video: Engines ignited for hold-down test on SpaceX's next Falcon 9 rocket (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/11/video-engines-ignited-for-hold-down-test-on-spacexs-next-falcon-9-rocket/)

November 11, 2017 Stephen Clark

ЦитироватьRocket test-fired for launch of secretive U.S. government payload
November 11, 2017 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/) Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

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The SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket test-fired its nine Merlin 1D engines at 6 p.m. EST (2300 GMT) Saturday in a rare nighttime static fire test. Credit: William Harwood/CBS News

SpaceX moved closer to its next launch with a successful hold-down engine firing Saturday at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, sailing through a readiness check for a planned liftoff Wednesday with a clandestine U.S. government payload named Zuma.

Throttling up to full power for a few seconds, the Merlin 1D engines ignited at 6 p.m. EST (2300 GMT) Saturday at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The static fire test clears the way for final launch preparations ahead of the deployment of a clandestine U.S. government payload named Zuma in orbit Wednesday.

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It will be SpaceX's 17th launch of the year, and the 45th flight of a Falcon 9 rocket since the commercial booster debuted in 2010.

SpaceX's launch team loaded super-chilled, densified kerosene and liquid oxygen propellants into the two-stage Falcon 9 rocket Saturday evening, then ignited the booster's nine main engines for several seconds while hold-down restraints keep the vehicle on the ground.

A plume of engine exhaust erupted from the north side of the launch pad, and SpaceX confirmed a good hold-down firing on Twitter a few minutes later.

The prelaunch static fire test is a customary step in all SpaceX launch campaigns.

The next step to prepare for Wednesday's launch will be the rollback of the Falcon 9 to SpaceX's hangar at pad 39A to meet Zuma, a mysterious payload for the U.S. government. Little is known about the mission, including which government agency is in charge of it. Northrop Grumman said last month it arranged for the payload's launch with SpaceX on behalf of the government.

Liftoff with Zuma is scheduled during a two-hour window Wednesday that opens at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Thursday).

The Falcon 9's first stage booster will return to Landing Zone-1 at Cape Canaveral less than 10 minutes after liftoff, a maneuver that requires ample leftover fuel in the rocket after sending its payload toward orbit. The plan for a landing at Cape Canaveral, and not on an offshore ship, suggests the Zuma payload is likely heading for a relatively low-altitude orbit.

Saturday's hotfire test came less than two weeks after SpaceX's last launch from pad 39A on Oct. 30.

SpaceX plans to launch the following Falcon 9 flight from neighboring pad 40 in December, returning that launch complex to service for the first time since it was damaged in a rocket explosion last year.

Activity at pad 39A will focus on preparing for the first test flight of SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket, which could occur before the end of the year.

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ЦитироватьYMMM

F3592/17 - US ROCKET SPLASHDOWN AREA
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED SURFACE TO UNLIMITED FOR
ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON 9 ZUMA
AND PARTICIPATING SUPPORT AIRCRAFT WITHIN THE FOLLOWING AREA:
FROM 3027S 6451E TO 3044S 6703E TO 3810S 8243E TO 4722S 10839 TO
5030S 12439E TO 5155S 12603E TO 5332S 12505E TO 5424S 11601E TO 5334S
10127E TO 4746S 8205E TO 3958S 6931E TO 3156S 6323E TO BEGINNING. PRI
RE ENTRY 1711160300 0637. BACKUP RE ENTRY 171117 0300 0637. SFC - UNL, 1711160300
TO 1711160637 1711170300 TO 1711170637, 16 NOV 03:00 2017 UNTIL 17 NOV 06:37
2017. CREATED: 08 NOV 00:34 2017
 

ЦитироватьSpaceX - ZUMA - Static Fire Test 11-11-2017

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/220769.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5hWqb0u1eKgYmVryCEyJYA) USLaunchReport (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5hWqb0u1eKgYmVryCEyJYA)

Опубликовано: 11 нояб. 2017 г.

Seemed like a long burn. To windy to film smoke plume.

Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:
SPLASHDOWN AREA

ЦитироватьFalcon 9 Checks Off Static Fire Test ahead of Ultra-Secretive Zuma Launch
November 12, 2017 (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-completes-static-fire-ahead-of-zuma-launch/)

SpaceX successfully conducted the Static Fire Test of the Falcon 9 rocket tasked with the ultra-secretive Zuma mission as early as Wednesday night from Launch Complex 39A at the Kennedy Space Center. Code-named Zuma or 'Mission 1390', the launch only appeared on the manifest one month ago and very little information is available on its possible identity.

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(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/152762.jpg) (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/F9-39a-static-fire.jpg)
Photo: SpaceX (File Image)

The Zuma mission first showed up in documentation submitted by SpaceX to the Federal Communications Commission on October 13, providing a fairly large surprise since this mission came out of nowhere and was not previously identified on the SpaceX backlog. After the existence of the launch became known, journalists began shaking the tree and revealed the Zuma launch was procured by Northrop Grumman that also acts as the mission's prime contractor. It was also reported that Zuma would be targeting a Low Earth Orbit and Falcon 9 would attempt a land-based first stage recovery with landing in Cape Canaveral's Landing Zone-1.

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/152763.jpg) (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/wp-content/uploads/sites/193/2017/11/eagle3.jpg)
Northrop Grumman's Eagle-3 Satellite Platform is a likely candidate for Zuma – Image: Northrop Grumman

The contracting pattern for this mission is similar to previous U.S. government missions in which the government agency managing the project hands responsibility for procuring the launch vehicle to the prime contractor. This was similar for the NROL-76 mission (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-nrol-76/) earlier this year for which Ball Aerospace acted as spacecraft prime contractor and launch vehicle procurement agent. However, the NRO denied being the owner of Zuma and the way the November 16 liftoff came to be was also unusual since missions are typically scheduled at least several months in advance.

The official reason for prioritizing the Zuma mission to become first in the queue of customers waiting for a SpaceX vehicle was given as a critical need by the customer of having the payload in orbit to later than November 30 to hit its revenue targets. Whether this reason is genuine or just cover for a classified requirement for having the satellite in orbit NLT than 11/30 is open for speculation.

Launch Area Closures issued for next-week's launch show Falcon 9 will be headed to the north east after blasting off from Florida, likely employing a very lofted trajectory similar to May's NROL-76 launch that dispatched a fairly light payload into a 400-Kilometer, 50° orbit. Lofted trajectories are the preferred method for RTLS recoveries since they keep the first stage closer to the coast but require a large excess in performance not possible on every mission.

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/152766.jpg) (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/wp-content/uploads/sites/193/2017/11/zumaclosure.jpg)
Zuma Launch Hazard Area – Image: U.S. Air Force

The most likely spacecraft platform employed by Zuma appears to be Northrop's Eagle-3, the largest in the company's Eagle product line and the only that would justify launching on a Falcon 9 rocket. Eagle-3 has been designed for use in all orbital regimes and with a large payload capacity in excess of 1,175 Kilograms. The payload fitted on Zuma could range from an operational intelligence-gathering system (imagery, radar, electronic intelligence) to technology demonstrations in a USA-193-style mission.

It remains to be seen whether Zuma's potential identity can be constrained via amateur observations of orbital behavior or characteristic radio emissions. The geometry of its orbit to other spacecraft and ground sites that may be of interest could also be useful in assessing the satellite's mission.

The Zuma mission will be handled by a new Falcon 9 Block 4 launch vehicle using first stage B1043 that was re-assigned to the mission after being originally earmarked for the Dragon SpX-13 mission targeting a December liftoff on a previously flown Falcon 9 core after NASA engineering reviews cleared the use of 'flight-proven' boosters for CRS missions (management decision still to be confirmed).

Assembled inside the hangar at LC-39A in tight quarters with three Falcon Heavy cores already present, Falcon 9 was wheeled up the ramp on Saturday to take its vertical launch position ahead of the Static Fire Test. A firm part of every SpaceX launch campaign since the Falcon 1 days, the Static Fire Test is intended as a last end-to-end test of the assembled two-stage rocket and all ground support systems to ensure all are operating as advertised in an effort to avoid surprises on launch day.

To that end, the Static Fire includes a complete 70-minute propellant loading sequence to exercise both stages, including the second stage that is mostly a bystander in the hot fire test of the first stage. Loaded with over 500 metric tons of chilled Rocket Propellant 1 and sub-cooled Liquid Oxygen, Falcon 9 checked off its final preparatory steps in the last seven minutes of the count including chilldown of the engines, the transfer to battery power, retraction of the Strongback, pressurization of tanks and handoff to Falcon's computers.

ЦитироватьF9/Zuma: Falcon 9 hot-fire test as viewed from 3 miles away pic.twitter.com/ZoJQ680qHe (https://t.co/ZoJQ680qHe)
— William Harwood (@cbs_spacenews) November 11, 2017 (https://twitter.com/cbs_spacenews/status/929486865098567680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

The nine Merlin 1D engines on the business end of the vehicle fired up at the opening of Saturday's test window at 6 p.m. local time, 23 UTC. The burn appeared to achieve its planned 3.5-second duration and Falcon 9 went through safing steps after shutdown while engineering teams completed a quick review to ensure the required performance parameters were captured before heading into de-tanking.

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/152761.jpg) (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/27042449393_75d3cd0183_ks.jpg)
Four Cores inside the HIF – Photo: SpaceX (2016)

The obligatory Tweet from SpaceX confirmed the Static Fire was successful and delivered the data needed for in-depth reviews over the coming days, leading into the Launch Readiness Review.

Zuma is targeting liftoff during a two-hour window opening at 1:00 UTC on November 16; 8:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the 15th.

After Zuma leaves the pad, Launch Complex 39A will enter the expected downtime for final outfitting of the pad and TEL for Falcon Heavy, an operation expected to take no more than three weeks based on work already completed in between Falcon 9 launches. This will enable Falcon Heavy to enter its first integration campaign that will be accompanied by fit checks and other verifications before the vehicle will roll out for the first time for dress rehearsals atop the pad.

Transitioning Falcon 9 operations back to Space Launch Complex 40, SpaceX is still targeting December 4 for the launch of the next Dragon mission to the International Space Station. Iridium has begun shipping its fourth batch of satellites out to Vandenberg Air Force Base in preparation for a December 22/23 liftoff atop a 'flight-proven' Falcon 9 rocket which will bring the total number of Falcon 9 missions in 2017 to 19.

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ЦитироватьM1390 ZUMA Launch Hazard Areas visualization (https://goo.gl/ErbkUw) based on issued NOTMAR/NOTAM, together with S2 Debris Area.

ЦитироватьNAVAREA IV 1067/2017 (11,26)

WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   160055Z TO 160337Z NOV, ALTERNATE
   170055Z TO 170337Z NOV IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38N 080-43W, 29-12N 080-06W,
   30-04N 079-00W, 29-56N 078-52W,
   28-41N 080-10W, 28-26N 080-21W,
   28-22N 080-38W.
   B. 30-04N 079-00W, 30-52N 078-17W,
   31-32N 077-25W, 31-54N 076-49W,
   31-49N 076-45W, 31-36N 076-57W,
   30-44N 077-53W, 29-56N 078-52W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 170437Z NOV 17.

( 110428Z NOV 2017 )

ЦитироватьHYDROPAC 3895/2017 (61,75)

SOUTHERN INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 03, DNC 04.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS SPACE DEBRIS
   160300Z TO 160637Z NOV, ALTERNATE
   170300Z TO 170637Z NOV IN AREA BOUND BY
   30-27S 064-51E, 30-44S 067-03E,
   38-10S 082-43E, 47-22S 108-39E,
   50-30S 124-39E, 51-55S 126-03E,
   53-32S 125-05E, 54-24S 116-01E,
   53-34S 101-27E, 47-46S 082-05E,
   39-58S 069-31E, 31-56S 063-23E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 170737Z NOV 17.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67530.jpg) Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow) 5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/930694462266859520)

SpaceX has announced a one-day delay in the next Falcon 9 launch from the Kennedy Space Center. Liftoff of the Falcon 9 rocket is now targeted for Thursday at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Friday) with the top secret Zuma payload for the U.S. government. https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/15/falcon-9-zuma-mission-status-center/ ... (https://t.co/dDunIA6GOZ)
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 4 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/930707678892093440)

SpaceX is now targeting Thursday, Nov. 16 for launch of the Zuma mission. Both Falcon 9 and the payload remain healthy; teams will use the extra day to conduct some additional mission assurance work in advance of launch. The launch time and window remain the same for Thursday.

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Liftoff of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket has been pushed back a day until Thursday evening, the company announced in a statement.

"SpaceX is now targeting Thursday, Nov. 16 for launch of the Zuma mission," the the company said. "Both Falcon 9 and the payload remain healthy; teams will use the extra day to conduct some additional mission assurance work in advance of launch."

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Thursday's launch window opens at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Friday) and extends for two hours, the same as Wednesday night's window.

The payload aboard SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket is a top secret passenger for the U.S. government named Zuma. Northrop Grumman arranged for the launch with SpaceX on a commercial basis on behalf of the government.

"Northrop Grumman is proud to be a part of the Zuma launch," said Lon Rains, communications director for Northrop Grumman's space division. "This event represents a cost effective approach to space access for government missions.

"The U.S. government assigned Northrop Grumman the responsibility of acquiring launch services for this mission. We have procured the Falcon 9 launch service from SpaceX.

"As a company, Northrop Grumman realizes that this is monumental responsibility and have taken great care to ensure the most affordable and lowest risk scenario for Zuma.

"The Zuma payload is a restricted payload," Rains said in a statement. It will be launched into Low Earth Orbit."

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Falcon 9 and Zuma went vertical last night on Pad 39A. Now targeting November 16 for launch — rocket and payload remain healthy, and the teams will use the extra day to conduct additional mission assurance work.
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ZUMA MISSION

SpaceX is targeting launch of the Zuma spacecraft from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Florida. The two-hour primary launch window opens at 8:00 p.m. EST on Thursday, November 16, or 1:00 UTC on Friday, November 17. A backup two-hour launch window opens at 8:00 p.m. EST on Friday, November 17, or 1:00 UTC on Saturday, November 18.

Following stage separation, Falcon 9's first stage will attempt to land at SpaceX's Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida. You can watch the launch live below and find more information about the mission in our press kit. (http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/zumapresskit.pdf)

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The Falcon 9 rocket is vertical at pad 39A for Thursday night's liftoff scheduled for a two-hour window opening at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Friday).

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There is a 90 percent chance of favorable weather Thursday night, according to an outlook issued by the U.S. Air Force's 45th Weather Squadron earlier today.

The only slight concern is with cumulus clouds that might move over the launch pad.

"Onshore gusty winds will create showers along the Space Coast for one more day," forecasters wrote in the weather synopsis. "These showers will diminish after sunrise Thursday as an upper-level trough moves south of the spaceport.

"By the launch window Thursday evening, clouds will also diminish, leaving only a few cumulus clouds. Maximum upper-level winds will be from the west at 70 knots near 45,000 feet."

Meteorologists predict a few clouds at 3,000 feet, winds from the north-northeast at 15 to 20 mph, and a temperature of 67 degrees Fahrenheit at launch time.

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ЦитироватьTop secret 'Zuma' mission puzzles satellite trackers
November 15, 2017 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/) Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

A top secret payload developed in secrecy for the U.S. government is set to ride into orbit fr om Florida's Space Coast aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket Thursday.

Known only by the codename Zuma, the payload is likely heading for an orbit less than 1,000 miles in altitude, and perhaps much lower. The existence of the mission was not revealed until it was disclosed in regulatory filings last month.

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SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket stands poised for launch at pad 39A in Florida with the Zuma payload. Credit: SpaceX

A disclosure so close to launch is rare in the space industry, and little information about the mission has been released in the last few weeks. Clandestine spacecraft owned by the National Reconnaissance Office — the U.S. government's spy satellite agency — receive codenames years before they lift off. They're also listed in public procurement documents and launch manifests.

Northrop Grumman acknowledged its role in the Zuma mission in a statement, confirming it arranged for the launch with SpaceX on the government's behalf.

"Northrop Grumman is proud to be a part of the Zuma launch," said Lon Rains, communications director for Northrop Grumman's space division. "This event represents a cost effective approach to space access for government missions.

"The U.S. government assigned Northrop Grumman the responsibility of acquiring launch services for this mission," Rains said in a written statement emailed to Spaceflight Now. "We have procured the Falcon 9 launch service fr om SpaceX."

Northrop Grumman did not say whether it built the Zuma payload, but the defense contractor said it considered cost and risk in its selection of the Falcon 9.

"As a company, Northrop Grumman realizes that this is monumental responsibility and have taken great care to ensure the most affordable and lowest risk scenario for Zuma," the statement said.

"The Zuma payload is a restricted payload," Rains said. "It will be launched into Low Earth Orbit."

Officials have not divulged which U.S. government agency will be the primary user of the payload, or whether it's a military or civilian group. Zuma could be a surveillance mission, a spy satellite, an experimental tech demo, or something else.

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The Falcon 9 rocket stands vertical at pad 39A on Wednesday afternoon. Credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

The Falcon 9 rocket has a two-hour launch window to take off Thursday from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The opportunity opens at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Friday).

It will be the 45th launch of a Falcon 9 rocket, and the 17th Falcon 9 flight of the year, a record in the commercial launch business.

Ground crews raised the 229-foot-tall (70-meter) Falcon 9 rocket vertical at launch pad 39A early Wednesday. The mission was supposed to blast off Wednesday night, but SpaceX announced a 24-hour launch delay to allow engineers to complete additional mission assurance work.

The SpaceX launch team will switch on the Falcon 9's computers and verify their readiness for launch Thursday afternoon, and the countdown's automatic sequencer will commence at T-minus 70 minutes, followed by the loading of super-chilled, densified rocket-grade RP-1 kerosene into the two-stage rocket.

Cryogenic liquid oxygen will be pumped into the rocket beginning at T-minus 45 minutes.

In the final 10 minutes of the countdown, the Falcon 9's Merlin main engines will be readied for ignition and the rocket will be switched to internal power.

The on-board computer will send the command to ignite the first stage's nine Merlin 1D engines at T-minus 3 seconds. After throttling up to full power, the engines will power the Falcon 9 off the launch pad with 1.7 million pounds of thrust.

Thursday's flight will place the Zuma payload into low Earth orbit, according to Northrop Grumman, but the parameters of the target orbit have not been released. Most satellites in low Earth orbit fly less than 1,000 miles above the planet.

A notice warning pilots to steer clear of the Falcon 9's flight path suggest the rocket will head northeast from the Kennedy Space Center.

Another advisory indicates the Falcon 9's second stage will drop out of orbit after deploying the Zuma payload, heading for a re-entry over the southern Indian Ocean, wh ere debris could fall into the sea southeast of Madagascar.

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SpaceX's official patch for the Zuma mission. Credit: SpaceX

Ted Molczan, a respected satellite watcher in Canada, analyzed the aviation advisories and predicts the Zuma payload will launch into an orbit with a tilt of approximately 50 degrees to the equator, but there is some uncertainty in the estimate.

A coordinated network of amateur satellite observers communicating in an online forum will attempt to locate the Zuma payload after its launch, and an estimate of its expected orbit will help tell the trackers wh ere to look.

The U.S. military publishes information on the orbits of most satellites to avoid spacecraft collisions, but it withholds data on the government's most secretive missions.

"There are many possible orbits, so we can only try to be aware of what could happen, and plan the search accordingly," Molczan told Spaceflight Now.

One theory proposed by Macro Langbroek, an experienced tracker of satellite movements who lives in the Netherlands, suggests the Zuma payload could be related to a classified National Reconnaissance Office satellite launched on a Falcon 9 rocket in May.

The secretive NRO spacecraft, designated USA-276, flies in an orbit inclined 50 degrees to the equator, similar or identical to the track Zuma is expected to take.

What's more, the USA-276 satellite will fly over Central Florida around 8:08 p.m. EST Thursday (0108 GMT Friday), eight minutes after the opening of the Falcon 9's launch window.

A launch in the first part of Thursday's launch window would place Zuma very close to USA-276.

"I readily admit, this all to a high degree remains speculation and wishful thinking, of course," Langbroek wrote on the SeeSat-L forum. "We'll see what happens. But I found it curious enough to draw attention to it."

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USA-276's track will take it over Florida, just south of Cape Canaveral, a few minutes after the opening of Thursday's launch window. Credit: n2yo.com

USA-276 was the subject of its own pre-launch speculation because it did not go into an orbit used by any other NRO missions. It was also the first Falcon 9 launch dedicated to the U.S. government's intelligence community.

Ground-based observers using the SeeSat-L forum spotted the USA-276 satellite around three weeks after its May 1 launch from the Kennedy Space Center. They calculated it was in an orbit about 250 miles (400 kilometers) above Earth that oscillates between 50 degrees north and south latitude on each lap around the planet.

An NRO spokesperson said the USA-276 satellite was built by Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., but officials declined to describe its purpose.

USA-276 made a mysterious flyby as close as 4 miles (6 kilometers) International Space Station in early June — a month after its launch — but Langbroek and Molczan are not sure whether the unusually close encounter was intentional.

Ball Aerospace specializes in building small and medium-sized satellites. Most of Ball's spacecraft have weighed less than 6,000 pounds (about 2,700 kilograms) at launch, and that is likely an upper bound on USA-276's mass.

The Zuma payload flying on Thursday's Falcon 9 launch is also believed to be relatively light.

The Falcon 9's first stage will fire its main engines for around 2 minutes, 16 seconds, on Thursday's flight, then give way to the upper stage's single engine to continue the climb into orbit.

That is the shortest first stage firing on any Falcon 9 launch to date, one second shy of the booster's burn time during the launch of USA-276 in May.

SpaceX engineers can adjust the length of the first stage burn based on each mission's requirements. A longer burn customarily means the satellite is heavier and going into a higher orbit — leaving less propellant in the tanks for landing maneuvers — and a shorter firing could mean the launch profile is not as demanding, suggesting a lighter payload and a lower orbit.

The booster will attempt to return to land at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, a controlled descent that can only be accomplished on missions heading for low orbits because it requires ample leftover fuel.

A subset of the first stage's nine Merlin engines will fire two times to guide the booster back toward land once it detaches from the Falcon 9 second stage high above the Atlantic Ocean. The first stage's center engine will ignite again just before touchdown, and four landing legs will open at the base of the rocket as descends to Landing Zone 1 at Cape Canaveral.

Landing is scheduled less than eight minutes after liftoff, according to a timeline provided by SpaceX.

The company's launch webcast is expected to end coverage of the second stage's engine burn shortly after it ignites, complying with the wishes of Zuma's owner. Live video will focus on the first stage's descent back to Earth.

SpaceX will try to land a rocket at Landing Zone 1 for the eighth time on Thursday's flight. Falcon 9 boosters have landed intact there or on offshore vessels 19 times, advancing SpaceX's efforts to recover and reuse rockets.

Three Falcon 9 missions have used previously-flown boosters to date. The first stage slated to get Zuma off the ground Thursday is set to fly for the first time.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 49 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/931159359878516737)

I spy with my little eye a #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) on the launch pad. Up close pics coming soon. #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash)

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Good morning fr om pad 39A @NASAKennedy (https://twitter.com/NASAKennedy) wh ere a #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) is preparing for launch at 8 PM EST tonight with the secret #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) payload. – Launch Pad 39A (LC-39A) (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A07d9c94f57887002)

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Moody weather. #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) says, "Don't rain on my secret parade." #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash)

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186210.jpg) Trevor Mahlmann‏ @TrevorMahlmann (https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann) 57 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann/status/931201861071368194)

gooooood morning from historic Launch Complex 39A. Just finished setting my remote cameras for tonight's 8PM launch of the mystery #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) payload. #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash)
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ЦитироватьWhat is Zuma? Mystery surrounds the payload SpaceX is launching today
This is the company's third national security mission.
Eric Berger (https://arstechnica.com/author/ericberger/) - 11/16/2017, 5:23 PM

Since earning certification from the Air Force to launch national security payloads—typically spy satellites and military communications satellites—SpaceX has flown two military missions. It launched a classified payload for the National Reconnaissance Office in May and an Air Force space plane in September.

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On Thursday, SpaceX will attempt to launch its third and most secretive payload for the military. The mission was not even made public until a launch license was released a month ago, and the company didn't acknowledge the launch until this last week. The payload was developed by Northrup Grumman, and has the mysterious name "Zuma," which sounds similar to a carbonated, alcoholic beverage briefly popular in the 1990s, Zima. There are few clues in the launch's mission patch.

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Enlarge (https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/zuma.jpg) / Zuma mission patch.

Although Ars understands the payload is being launched for the National Reconnaissance Office, the mission's press kit (http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/zumapresskit.pdf) offers absolutely no details about the payload. It simply refers to the payload as the "Zuma spacecraft," which is bound for low-Earth orbit. (And indeed, the NRO has denied (http://aviationweek.com/awinspace/nro-spacex-zuma-payload-not-its-bird) that Zuma is its satellite).

There is a general feeling within the company that this is an important launch for SpaceX, as it will be the third national security mission, and if successful it would validate the company as a major player to meet the country's military launch needs at a time when the US Congress is pushing the Air Force to rely on US made rocket engines. Overall, this will be the company's 17th launch of 2017, and it would more than double the company's launch totals in any previous year.

Zuma has a two-hour launch window for its flight from Kennedy Space Center. The window opens at 8pm ET, and a back-up window opens on Friday at the same time. Weather conditions appear to be near ideal for a launch Thursday. The first stage of the Falcon 9 rocket will attempt a land-based return after sending the payload into orbit. The webcast below should begin about 15 minutes before the launch window opens.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 27 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/931223470335315969)

ARTICLE: SpaceX Falcon 9 readies for launch of clandestine Zuma satellite - https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/11/spacex-falcon-9-launch-clandestine-zuma-satellite/ ... (https://t.co/rAtNKBX6Uq) -

By Chris Gebhardt (@ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF)) - who also took the photos (multi-talented!)
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SpaceX Falcon 9 readies for launch of clandestine Zuma satellite (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/11/spacex-falcon-9-launch-clandestine-zuma-satellite/)

November 16, 2017 by Chris Gebhardt

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/930550988850827265/4FQ8fFk1_bigger.jpg) 45th Space Wing‏ @45thSpaceWing (https://twitter.com/45thSpaceWing) 3 мин назад (https://twitter.com/45thSpaceWing/status/931235561087610880)

New date: (Friday) Nov 17; same time at 8 p.m. ET #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/falcon9?src=hash) | @AFSpace (https://twitter.com/AFSpace) | @Air @usairforce (https://twitter.com/usairforce) | @920thRescueWing (https://twitter.com/920thRescueWing) | #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash)
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ЦитироватьUpdated: 11/16/2017 22:02

SpaceX has again delayed its next Falcon 9 launch until at least Friday evening. A U.S. Air Force spokesperson confirmed the delay to Spaceflight Now.

Friday's launch window opens at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Saturday).

The 229-foot-tall (70-meter) rocket is standing at pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. It will haul the U.S. government's secretive Zuma payload into low Earth orbit.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67530.jpg) Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow) 14 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/931245886826516480)

A launch double-header is on tap starting Friday night. SpaceX's Falcon 9 booster is set to lift off from Florida at 8pm EST (0100 GMT), then ULA's Delta 2 rocket is set to launch from California at 4:47am EST (0947 GMT) Saturday. We'll cover both at https://spaceflightnow.com  (https://t.co/JnIoA3IeyF)
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Цитировать11/17/2017 02:16

SpaceX has issued a statement on the launch delay:
"We have decided to stand down and take a closer look at data from recent fairing testing for another customer. Though we have preserved the range opportunity for tomorrow, we will take the time we need to complete the data review and will then confirm a new launch date."

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX‏Подлинная учетная запись @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) 5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/931304237316710401)

Standing down on Zuma mission to take a closer look at data from recent fairing testing for another customer.

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Though we've preserved the range opportunity for tomorrow, we'll take the time needed to complete the data review and then confirm a new launch date.

ЦитироватьSpaceX delays launch to study data fr om recent payload fairing test
November 16, 2017 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/) Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

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The Falcon 9 rocket with Zuma stands at pad 39A on Wednesday afternoon. Credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

SpaceX has delayed its next launch from the Kennedy Space Center until at least Friday night, and possibly later, to examine data from a recent payload fairing test for another customer.

The company said in a statement Thursday that the launch, originally scheduled for Wednesday night, will not take place until engineers complete their analysis.

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"We have decided to stand down and take a closer look at data from recent fairing testing for another customer," said John Taylor, a SpaceX spokesperson, in a written statement. "Though we have preserved the range opportunity for tomorrow, we will take the time we need to complete the data review and will then confirm a new launch date."

If SpaceX clears the Falcon 9 rocket for takeoff Friday, the launch window will open at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Saturday) and extend for two hours.

The rocket remains vertical at launch pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, wh ere it arrived Tuesday night as SpaceX targeted liftoff Wednesday.

A clandestine payload named Zuma is cocooned inside the Falcon 9's nose shroud, which will jettison from the rocket around three minutes after liftoff once it reaches space. The payload shroud data under review Thursday night comes from a test on components for another mission.

Owned by an unidentified U.S. government agency, Zuma is heading for low Earth orbit, a region of space that extends up to about 1,200 miles (2,000 kilometers) above the planet. Northrop Grumman has acknowledged it reserved Zuma's launch with SpaceX on the government's behalf, and the defense contractor called Zuma a "restricted payload" in a statement released to Spaceflight Now.

Most of the government's top secret satellites are owned by the National Reconnaissance Office, an agency the U.S. intelligence community. But the NRO discloses ownership of its missions, and an NRO spokesperson told Spaceflight Now on Thursday that Zuma does not belong to the surveillance agency.

SpaceX called off Zuma's Wednesday launch attempt to complete "mission assurance" work, officials said. It was not clear Thursday whether the reasons for the two launch delays were related.

If managers clear the Falcon 9 rocket for launch Friday night, forecasters predict near-ideal weather, with less than a 10 percent probability of conditions preventing liftoff from Florida's Space Coast.

Read our earlier story (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/15/top-secret-zuma-payload-puzzles-satellite-trackers/) for details on the Zuma mission.

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ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Не понял, мы летим или не летим?  :oops:

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
Скорее всего нет.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 57 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/931531459596374016)

Per Falcon 9/Zuma status, it is technically NET (No Earlier Than) today. However, per the update yesterday, SpaceX will confirm a new launch date. So that'll be the next update. Right now, there's no Range weather forecast, which one would expect by now.
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Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000149454500/c2e974df2f92ce57b2c8db329f5da805_bigger.png) Emre Kelly‏Подлинная учетная запись @EmreKelly (https://twitter.com/EmreKelly) 15 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/931319900508864512)

SpaceX #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) update: 45th Space Wing says #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) launch removed from schedule. Doesn't mean there won't be a launch on Friday, just interesting to note.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 25 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/931555924875141121)

KSC goes into certain status modes ahead of a launch, such as roadblocks and such. They've been canceled for tonight, so it looks like we'll need to wait and see per when Zuma gets to ride uphill.

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000149454500/c2e974df2f92ce57b2c8db329f5da805_bigger.png) Emre Kelly‏Подлинная учетная запись @EmreKelly (https://twitter.com/EmreKelly) 34 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/931556163644215296)

Update: SpaceX #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) mission not launching tonight. Waiting on new date.

Цитировать11/17/2017 21:55

The Falcon 9 rocket with the U.S. government's mysterious Zuma payload is not expected to launch tonight, and SpaceX has not set a new target launch date for the flight.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186015.jpg) Stephen C. Smith‏ @WordsmithFL (https://twitter.com/WordsmithFL) 25 мин назад (https://twitter.com/WordsmithFL/status/931613447162400769)

I spy with my @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) eye ... All dressed up with nowhere to go. #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash)
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67530.jpg) Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow) 7 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/931640788789989377)

The Air Force confirms no missions are scheduled to launch from Florida's Space Coast today or tomorrow. A new Falcon 9 launch date has not been announced. https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/15/falcon-9-zuma-mission-status-center/ ... (https://t.co/dDunIA6GOZ)

Цитировать11/18/2017 00:49

An Air Force spokesperson has confirmed that the Eastern Range at Cape Canaveral has no missions reserved for launch Friday or Saturday, suggesting SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket will not lift off in the next couple of days.

Цитировать11/18/2017 02:39

SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket has been lowered horizontal at pad 39A as the launch of the U.S. government's Zuma payload remains in an indefinite hold.
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67530.jpg) Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/931697165646352384)

SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket with the Zuma payload has been lowered horizontal at launch pad 39A in Florida. The mission remains postponed indefinitely. https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/15/falcon-9-zuma-mission-status-center/ ... (https://t.co/dDunIA6GOZ)

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/931702362225430528)

Falcon 9 (Zuma) being lowered to horizontal at 39A. No new launch date has been mentioned by SpaceX, so this is still an active and ongoing evaluation per the fairing situation.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Где то попадалась инфа, что по обтекателю какие то вопросы

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Гы ... попадалось в нескольких местах, но изначально скорее всего, да, в этой теме и вот прям на предыдущей странице )))

Кстати, а ГО он у SpaceX прям стандартный стандартный или все таки изготавливается под конкретную ПН?
Я это к тому, что ракету понято взяли, которая предназначалась для другого спутника (кстати какого?), но и ГО скорее всего взяли, который предназначался для другой миссии.

Цитироватьopinion пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Гы ... попадалось в нескольких местах, но изначально скорее всего, да, в этой теме и вот прям на предыдущей странице )))

Кстати, а ГО он у SpaceX прям стандартный стандартный или все таки изготавливается под конкретную ПН?
Я это к тому, что ракету понято взяли, которая предназначалась для другого спутника (кстати какого?), но и ГО скорее всего взяли, который предназначался для другой миссии.

Ракету взяли от Дракона, так что обтекателя у неё не было.

ЦитироватьAstro Cat пишет:
Ну что задержка затянулась? Похоже хеви уезжает на следующий год?

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьopinion пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Гы ... попадалось в нескольких местах, но изначально скорее всего, да, в этой теме и вот прям на предыдущей странице )))

Кстати, а ГО он у SpaceX прям стандартный стандартный или все таки изготавливается под конкретную ПН?
Я это к тому, что ракету понято взяли, которая предназначалась для другого спутника (кстати какого?), но и ГО скорее всего взяли, который предназначался для другой миссии.

Ракету взяли от Дракона, так что обтекателя у неё не было.

Ну вот это кстати хорошая ветка для исследования.
Возможно, ГО сделали в срочном порядке на скорую руку.
А может и действительно, им удалось спасти какой то ГО и они попробовали пристроить его на этот секретный аппарат

Цитироватьopinion пишет:
Пишут, что им что-то не понравилось в телеметрии одного из предыдущих ГО. Вот и устраняют возможную проблему.

Цитироватьopinion пишет:
раз уж не разрешили использовать летавшую вторую ступень.

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет:

Цитироватьopinion пишет:
раз уж не разрешили использовать летавшую вторую ступень.

А они уже вернули хотя бы одну вторую ступень?

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Этот FH похоже у них уже как иголка в попе )) Причем и вытащить нельзя ))

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Они ж всё замышляют многоразовый обтекатель. Видать чтото не склеилось.

Цитироватьopinion пишет:
Пишут, что им что-то не понравилось в телеметрии одного из предыдущих ГО. Вот и устраняют возможную проблему.

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Они ж всё замышляют многоразовый обтекатель. Видать чтото не склеилось.

Надеюсь не вертолетом хватать, как рисовали ранее..

ЦитироватьSalo пишет: 
Оснастить собственной ДУ и посадить на лапки?  8)

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
В данной ситуации, запустить FH в конце года или в начале следующего вообще не проблема на фоне задачи как расставить приоритеты с минимизацией репутационных рисков.

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так когда мы летим?

ЦитироватьЕсли все уйдет в затяг на несколько недель, то что они с CRS-13 делать будут интересно

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 43 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/932685474317074433)

Uh oh, Irene Klotz (@Free_Space (https://twitter.com/Free_Space)) is saying Zuma has been delayed until at least December. http://aviationweek.com/awinspace/spacex-classified-zuma-launch-delayed-until-least-december ... (https://t.co/g42K7Fmh9n) - and that'll feed down into Falcon Heavy's schedule.

ЦитироватьPirat5 пишет:
А вроде как экспресс-пуск намечался...

ЦитироватьSpaceX launch of secret Zuma mission on hold until after Thanksgiving
James Dean (http://www.floridatoday.com/staff/10179/james-dean/), FLORIDA TODAY Published 3:17 p.m. ET Nov. 20, 2017 | Updated 3:56 p.m. ET Nov. 20, 2017

SpaceX's launch of a secret U.S. government mission from Kennedy Space Center won't happen until after Thanksgiving.

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Beyond that, the mystery surrounding the mission called Zuma, which was postponed last week, is only deepening.

SpaceX's only statement, issued last Thursday, said it had put the launch on hold so teams could review an issue uncovered during tests of Falcon rocket nose cones, or payload fairings, that were performed recently for another customer.

"We will take the time we need to complete the data review and will then confirm a new launch date," the statement said.

The Air Force's 45th Space Wing has no launch scheduled on the Eastern Range until Dec. 4, when SpaceX tentatively plans to launch a Dragon capsule carrying International Space Station supplies for NASA.

Dragons don't fly with the fairings that cover satellites on top of a rocket, so that mission might not be affected by the issue SpaceX is studying now.

Meanwhile the Wing on Monday started a nearly two-week maintenance period that was scheduled to shut down the range through Dec. 1.

SpaceX would not be able to launch during that stretch unless the maintenance is interrupted. Such work has been delayed in the past to accommodate launches.

Further clouding the outlook for Zuma are news reports that the launch contract, booked by Northrop Grumman on the government's behalf, required a liftoff by Nov. 30.

That would leave SpaceX only a short window after Thanksgiving to pull off a launch, if the range is available.

Northrop and SpaceX would not confirm the reported deadline.

"We continue to work with SpaceX on the launch," a Northrop Grumman spokesman told FLORIDA TODAY on Monday.

So the mission's status remains uncertain.

The only public information about Zuma indicated a spacecraft would be delivered to low Earth orbit, launching on a northeasterly trajectory inclined about 50 degrees relative to the equator.

SpaceX planned to land the Falcon booster back at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

Amateur satellite trackers speculated that Zuma might be a follow-up to a classified National Reconnaissance Office mission SpaceX launched earlier this year, since Zuma appeared to be following a similar flight profile.

In that case, Zuma might be an experimental spacecraft testing technologies for observing rendezvous operations between spacecraft.

Some have gone as far as to suggest that there really is no Zuma mission — that the pre-launch preparations were an exercise to prove SpaceX's ability to fly on short notice.

SpaceX put a Falcon 9 on the pad at KSC and test-fired its main engines on Nov. 11. The rocket went vertical again before last week's planned launch attempts, but has since returned to its hangar.

Under that scenario, the payload fairing tests SpaceX cited might merely be an excuse to stand down from a launch that was never really going to happen.

Time will tell if SpaceX confirms a new launch date for the mission after the holiday.

Apart from Zuma and the ISS resupply mission targeted for early December, SpaceX has at least one other launch scheduled before the end of the year, of commercial satellites from California.

The company's 16 launches this year already are its most in a calendar year, tying rival United Launch Alliance's high mark in 2009.

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ЦитироватьДень благодарения (англ. (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA) Thanksgiving Day) — государственный праздник в США (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%A8%D0%90), отмечается в четвёртый четверг ноября в США.

ЦитироватьВиктор Кондрашов пишет:
Кстати, предположение "а был ли мальчик" кажется мне весьма правдоподобным. Больно уж мутная история.  :)

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:  
Поясните пожалуйста свою мысль )

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Поясните пожалуйста свою мысль )

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 5 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/933104645051789312)

Per report Eastern Range closed through 1 Dec & #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) delayed until after, Range sent this correction: "launches supported by 45th Space Wing are at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, not Kennedy Space Center - which is NASA." Seems to indicate Zuma not affected by Range closure.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186260.jpg) Majestic Hydrogen Face Delta IV‏ @Delta_IV_Heavy (https://twitter.com/Delta_IV_Heavy) 2 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/Delta_IV_Heavy/status/933405458051862528)

Hey @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) zuma is off the TEL probably going to SLC 40?
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 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 55 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/933418624307605504)

This suggests Zuma is a long delay and SpaceX took the F9 off the TEL to allow continued Falcon Heavy mods. A good move to make use of the time.

ЦитироватьV.B. пишет:
А вот такая мысль. Если CRS-13 сдвинули с 4 на 8 декабря, не означает ли это, что они хотят запустить Зуму до CRS-13 с LC-40?

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 6 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/938513480570888193)

Yep. Zuma looking like a NET of January 4. 39A's all about FH events now.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX‏Подлинная учетная запись @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) 15 мин назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/938510889484828673)

Static fire test of Falcon 9 complete—targeting launch of CRS-13 on December 12 from Pad 40, followed by launch of Zuma from Pad 40 in early January.

ЦитироватьNET Jan. 4/5 Falcon 9 • Zuma

 Launch window: 0100-0300 GMT on 5th (8:00-10:00 p.m. EST on 4th)

ЦитироватьNovember 11th 2017, 18:00 EST / 23:00 UTC (https://twitter.com/spacex/status/929487948289937408)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 3 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/948271565506007040)
 
Potential second Static Fire test for Falcon 9 B1043 coming up as there are local observations of the booster (without payload) going to SLC-40 right now. This booster has already been fired up, but on 39A. #Interesting (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Interesting?src=hash)
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 9 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/948272297412001794)

Well this is interesting. Could be 2nd static fire or fit checks with pad, as this is only its second hosted mission since being rebuilt. Would also potentially make launching on the 4th really tight to pull off. #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 7 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/948275367386730497)

In summary. Zuma's booster is heading to SLC-40 right now. Potential second Static Fire or fit checks (SLC-40 still coming back...has only hosted a F9 Dragon mission). Launch slipping 24 hours. All of this likely why we have no official SF date for Falcon Heavy. Zuma is priority.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186015.jpg) Stephen C. Smith‏ @WordsmithFL (https://twitter.com/WordsmithFL) 16 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/WordsmithFL/status/948280119747137537)

For those obsessed with all things @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX), no #FalconHeavy (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FalconHeavy?src=hash) on the pad today.

ЦитироватьNAVAREA IV 1209/2017 (11,26)

WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   050055Z TO 050337Z JAN 18, ALTERNATE
   060055Z TO 060337Z JAN 18 IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-36N 080-39W, 29-46N 079-18W,
   29-37N 079-10W, 28-28N 080-22W,
   28-22N 080-34W.
   B. 29-46N 079-18W, 30-24N 078-41W,
   31-28N 077-27W, 31-53N 076-46W,
   31-47N 076-40W, 31-27N 076-56W,
   30-44N 077-42W, 29-37N 079-10W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 060437Z JAN 18.

( 310355Z DEC 2017 )


HYDROPAC 4653/2017 (61,75)

SOUTHERN INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 03, DNC 04.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS SPACE DEBRIS
   050300Z TO 050552Z JAN 18, ALTERNATE
   060300Z TO 060552Z JAN 18 IN AREA BOUND BY
   30-27S 064-51E, 30-44S 067-03E,
   38-10S 082-43E, 47-22S 108-39E,
   50-30S 124-39E, 51-55S 126-03E,
   53-32S 125-05E, 54-24S 116-01E,
   53-34S 101-27E, 47-46S 082-05E,
   39-58S 069-31E, 31-56S 063-23E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 060652Z JAN 18.

( 310308Z DEC 2017 )

ЦитироватьYMMM

 F0008/18 - ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED SURFACE TO UNLIMITED FOR
ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 ZUMA
AND PARTICIPATING SUPPORT AIRCRAFT WITHIN THE FOLLOWING AREAS:
3027S    6451E
3044S    6703E
3810S    8243E
4722S   10839E
5030S   12439E
5155S   12603E
5332S   12505E
5424S   11601E
5334S   10127E
4746S    8205E
3958S    6931E
3156S    6323E TO BEGINNING. SFC - UNL, PRI RE-ENTRY 20180106 0300-0552 BACKUP
RE-ENTRY 20180107 0300-0552, 06 JAN 03:00 2018 UNTIL 07 JAN 05:52 2018. CREATED:
02 JAN 19:43 2018
 

ЦитироватьUpdated: 01/03/2018 00:11

Launch of a SpaceX Falcon 9 booster with a secretive U.S. government payload named Zuma is scheduled for Friday night from Cape Canaveral during a two-hour launch window opening at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Saturday), one day later than previously planned after a delay from mid-November to complete technical reviews on the rocket.

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Little is known about the Zuma payload, other than Northrop Grumman was tapped by the U.S. government to procure commercial launch services for the mission. Northrop Grumman sel ected SpaceX's Falcon 9 for the job.

The Falcon 9 launch from Florida's Space Coast was pushed back from mid-November to give SpaceX engineers time to resolve concerns with the rocket's payload fairing, which will protect the Zuma spacecraft during the first few minutes of flight through the dense, lower layers of the atmosphere.

SpaceX said its teams identified a problem with a fairing assigned to another mission, and they wanted to ensure the shroud for the Zuma launch was ready for liftoff.

The launch was originally supposed to take off from pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, but the delay led to a shuffle in SpaceX's launch schedule. SpaceX's other launch pad in Florida, pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, was restored to service in December with a space station resupply mission that jumped ahead of Zuma in the Falcon 9 queue.

Zuma will now kick off SpaceX's 2018 launch manifest, after a record year in 2017, which counted 18 launches from pads in Florida and California.

Liftoff from pad 40 was targeted for Thursday night, but the U.S. Air Force's 45th Space Wing confirmed Tuesday that the mission was rescheduled for Friday night.

Chilly weather is in the forecast Friday, with partly cloudy skies and a temperature of 46 degrees Fahrenheit at launch time.

There is a 90 percent chance weather conditions will be acceptable for liftoff of the Falcon 9 rocket.

"Scattered upper-level clouds are forecast to move through the area during the day (Friday)," the Air Force's 45th Weather Squadron wrote in an official launch forecast issued Tuesday. "The primary weather concern is clouds building below 20,000 feet and remaining into the launch window. Maximum upper-level winds will be from the west at 100 knots near 40,000 feet."

Winds will be fr om the northwest at 15 to 20 mph, and forecasters predict good visibility during the launch window Friday.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX‏Подлинная учетная запись @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) 1 ч назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/948554978163007488)

Team at the Cape performed a propellant loading test of Falcon 9 on Pad 40 this morning – additional static fire test of the rocket was not necessary. Targeting January 5 launch of Zuma.

Цитировать01/03/2018 19:34

SpaceX's launch team loaded RP-1 kerosene and liquid oxygen propellants into the two-stage Falcon 9 rocket at pad 40 this morning during a countdown rehearsal ahead of Friday night's launch from Cape Canaveral.

The Falcon 9 did not ignite its nine first stage engines for a hold-down firing. The same rocket was test-fired at nearby pad 39A in November ahead of the mission's first planned launch attempt.

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The rocket will loft a secretive U.S. government payload named Zuma. Friday night's two-hour launch window opens at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT Saturday).

There is a 90 percent chance of favorable weather conditions during Friday night's launch window, according to the U.S. Air Force's 45th Weather Squadron.

SpaceX's ground crew will roll back the Falcon 9 booster to its hangar for attachment of the Zuma payload and its nose shroud. The fully-assembled rocket should return to pad 40 ahead of Friday evening's countdown.

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ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
А зачем они заправляют керосин за три дня до старта?

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 54 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/948625467753541632)

ARTICLE: SpaceX conduct WDR in preparation to launch clandestine Zuma satellite
- https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/01/spacex-falcon-9-launch-clandestine-zuma-satellite/ ... (https://t.co/m56YMkOAV5)
(A large update of the previous Zuma article by Chris Gebhardt (@ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF)) to bring everything up to date (and revise it to the new news site style, etc.)).

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SpaceX conduct WDR in preparation to launch clandestine Zuma satellite (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/01/spacex-falcon-9-launch-clandestine-zuma-satellite/)

written by Chris Gebhardt | January 3, 2018

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 5 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/948898180497858561)

Local observations of the Falcon 9 booster for Zuma is still on the SLC-40 pad - without payload - and..... some claims there's venting (another WDR?). (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/125539.png)

Clearly this one isn't going to be launching on Friday. Will try and find out what is going on.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 5 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/948900927037149185)

A pic of the Zuma booster B1043.1 on SLC-40 yesterday (you mainly see the TEL, but the booster is on it), but that's still the situation this morning, plus the claims there's another prop test taking place. Have asked SpaceX....

Цитировать19 ч. (https://twitter.com/NASA_Nerd/status/948684568273608704)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/172437.jpg)

NASA Nate @NASA_Nerd
Falcon 9 without Zuma still standing on Space Launch Complex 40.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 4 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/948917282134286342)

In summary, Zuma is going to be NET Saturday (I say "going to be" as it has to be officially noted in public by SpaceX or the Range). Delays likely related to upper level winds predictions. Rocket is fine. Delay allowing for on pad test opportunities.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67530.jpg) Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow) 4 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/948918017819201536)

Additional testing of a Falcon 9 rocket at launch complex 40 today is likely to further delay SpaceX's launch of the mysterious Zuma payload: https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/01/02/falcon-9-zuma-mission-status-center-2/ ... (https://t.co/RTdj4X0bWy)

Цитировать01/04/2018 16:55

A second countdown rehearsal for the Falcon 9 rocket was underway at launch complex 40 this morning. The SpaceX launch team had performed a similar 'wet dress rehearsal' yesterday.

The vehicle is on the pad and without the fairing containing its mysterious Zuma payload. This will almost certainly preclude a launch Friday evening.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186258.jpg) NASA Nate‏ @NASA_Nerd (https://twitter.com/NASA_Nerd) 39 мин назад (https://twitter.com/NASA_Nerd/status/948966500467183616)

As of 12pm Falcon 9 Booster is still vertical on SLC-40.
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185659.jpg) James Dean‏Подлинная учетная запись @flatoday_jdean (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean) 7 мин назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/948985539809677313)

Who's Zuma'n who? Falcon 9/#Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) launch from LC40 slips another day, now targeted for 8 p.m. EST Sat., Jan. 6. Last posted forecast showed weather 90% "go."

ЦитироватьВиктор Воропаев пишет:
1-2 additional days of delay and the USA 276 orbital plane drifts into the launch window.

Marco

ЦитироватьExactly how (if at all) the two satellites are related to each other remains murky.

ЦитироватьThursday, 4 January 2018

A new launch attempt for ZUMA

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Probable launch trajectory of ZUMA
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If it isn't delayed again, SpaceX will finally launch the secretive classified ZUMA satellite for the US Government on January 6th (January 5th local time in the USA) from Kennedy Space Center pad 40 in Florida. The launch already has slipped one day from the initial January 5 aim.

The satellite was originally to be launched last November (see an earlier post (https://sattrackcam.blogspot.nl/2017/11/tonights-space-x-zuma-launch.html)) from Kennedy Space Center pad 39A but was postponed because of  issues with the payload fairing.

The launch hazard zones and the Falcon 9 upper stage de-orbit zone as gleaned from the Maritime Broadcast Warnings are virtually the same as in November, as was to be expected (there is a very small lateral shift in the launch hazard zone, which is probably related to the change in launch pad, but the direction of the area is the same). They are depicted on the map above.

From the launch azimuth (as gleaned from the launch hazard zones) and the location, extent and time window of the Falcon 9 upper stage de-orbit area, ZUMA will be launched into an approximately 50 degree inclined Low Earth Orbit. In the map above, a trajectory has been plotted for launch into a 50 degree inclined, approximately 400 km orbital altitude orbit. The orbital altitude is a bit uncertain and the eventual real orbit might be higher.

The launch window runs from 1:00 UT to 3:30 UT (January 6th). The de-orbit of the Falcon 9 Upper stage happens some 2 hours after launch over the southern Indian Ocean north of Kerguelen, halfway during the 2nd orbital revolution.

As remarked in my earlier post from November (https://sattrackcam.blogspot.nl/2017/11/tonights-space-x-zuma-launch.html), the launch hazard area and the apparent orbit aimed for as decuced from these hazard zones seem to be very similar to that of USA 276, the classified SpaceX launch for the US government from May 2017 which went into a 50 degree inclined, 400 km altitude orbit (see my article in The Space Review (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3277/1) of July 2017). Compare the launch hazard zones of these two launches, they are very similar:

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Launch hazard area of ZUMA (red) compared to that of USA 276 (blue)
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Back in November there was some speculation that ZUMA might target the ISS orbital plane, just like the odd classified satellite USA 276 appears to have done last year (see my article in The Space Review (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3277/1) of July 2017).

For the initial launch date and window in November 2017, the orbital planes of the ISS (and USA 276) would have passed over the launch site during the launch window, allowing a launch into the same orbital plane.

The new launch window for January 6th is the same as it was in November: 1:00 UT to 3:30 UT. This excludes a launch (exactly) into either the ISS or USA 276 orbital planes, as the latter only pass over the Florida launch site after the launch window has ended.

This would seem to suggest that the coincidence in time of the launch window and orbital plane passages in November was indeed coincidence (but there is a "but": see below...).

On January 6th, the orbital plane of USA 276 passes over the launch site around 4:27 UT, an hour after the end of the launch window. The orbital plane of the ISS passes over the launch site around 7:04 UT, some 3.5 hours after the end of the launch window.

The image below shows the spatial separation of the orbital planes for launch on January 6th.  For ZUMA, two planes are given (in red), one for launch at 1:00 UT and one for launch at 3:30 UT, representing the start and end of the launch window:

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relative positions of orbital planes of ZUMA (red), USA 276 (blue) and ISS (white)
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The USA 276 orbital plane is actually not too far from the ZUMA orbital plane if launch occurs near the end of the launch window.

The launch already has slipped one day, and a few days further delay would slip the passage of the USA 276 orbital plane back into the launch window, as the moment of orbital plane passage shifts about 24 minutes earlier in time each day. This would happen already with a 3-day delay in launch. And a further delay eventually would do the same for the ISS orbital plane passage after several more days.

At any rate: if launch is near the end of the launch window (i.e. near 3:30 UT), the ZUMA and USA 276 orbits could end up relatively close, albeit not being exactly the same.

Like we pressume USA 276 to be, ZUMA probably is a technology demonstrator, i.e. an experimental satellite to show that a particular technology is feasible.

I could speculate that perhaps ZUMA and USA 276 are part of the same experimental program. As these two spacecraft were built by two different companies (Northrop-Grumman and Ball Aerospace), perhaps they are technology demonstrators in competition for a follow-up contract. But this is pure speculation.

Exactly how (if at all) the two satellites are related to each other remains murky. Maybe future orbital behaviour will shed some light on what ZUMA is doing.

For a further discussion of the ZUMA mission, see my earlier post (https://sattrackcam.blogspot.nl/2017/11/tonights-space-x-zuma-launch.html) from November 2017. Some TLE estimates for the orbit are here (http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Jan-2018/0012.html).

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Posted by  SatTrackCam Leiden  (https://www.blogger.com/profile/08711764306071043709) at 1/04/2018 04:57:00 pm (https://sattrackcam.blogspot.ru/2018/01/a-new-launch-attempt-for-zuma.html)

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Zuma booster is still on the pad as of 5:50 p.m. EST today. Weekend may be a better outlook. Still has to be lowered and mated for launch. #justlaunchalready (https://twitter.com/hashtag/justlaunchalready?src=hash) @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 40 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/949052081872297984)

No official new launch date yet (from SpaceX). Technically NET Saturday, but is increasingly looking like NET Sunday. Sunday is when those Upper Level winds are much more acceptable. And remember, Zuma is the priority so Falcon Heavy dates won't be until after Zuma goes uphill.

Цитировать01/05/2018 02:36

The 'headless' Falcon 9 remains upright on launch complex 40 this evening with no official update on the planned launch date from SpaceX.
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ЦитироватьUpdated: 01/05/2018 03:08

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An additional Wet Dress Rehearsal (WDR), where the rocket was fully fuelled, took place this evening with a T-0 at around 6:30pm EST.

ЦитироватьSpaceX - Zuma Status Report 01-04-2017

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Опубликовано: 4 янв. 2018 г.

Cold and Windy on the Cape.

Цитировать01/05/2018 03:24

An image of the Falcon 9 during this evening's countdown rehearsal test. The launch pad strongback is pictured here retracted and vapors are visible as the vehicle vents its super-cold cryogenic propellants.
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Team at the Cape completed additional propellant loading tests today. Extreme weather slowed operations but Falcon 9 and the Zuma spacecraft are healthy and go for launch—now targeting January 7 from Pad 40 in Florida.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 2 ч назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/949358203774660609)

Zuma's Falcon 9 booster is off the pad. That's a very good sign for the path to Sunday's attempt.

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Best I can do for a #SLC40 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SLC40?src=hash) pic. @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)
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For new people confused why this is "a good sign", it marks the completion of WDR tests and now allows for rollback to the HIF for mating with the encapsulated Zuma. They will then rollout again - as an "integrated stack" - probably Sunday morning, for the countdown.

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ZUMA MISSION

SpaceX is targeting launch of the Zuma spacecraft from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida. The two-hour primary launch window opens at 8:00 p.m. EST on Sunday, January 7, or 1:00 UTC on Monday, January 8. A backup two-hour launch window opens at 8:00 p.m. EST on Monday, January 8, or 1:00 UTC on Tuesday, January 9.

Following stage separation, Falcon 9's first stage will attempt to land at SpaceX's Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida. You can watch the launch live below and find more information about the mission in our press kit. (http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/zumapresskit_2018.pdf).

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spacex.com/webcast (http://www.spacex.com/webcast)

или

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youtube.com/watch?v=0PWu3BRxn60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PWu3BRxn60)

Цитировать01/07/2018 01:31

The weather forecast for Sunday evening's two-hour Falcon 9 launch window looks favorable, with the U.S. Air Force's 45th Weather Squadron predicting an 80 percent chance of acceptable conditions.

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"Sunday will see an increase in clouds with easterly winds bringing isolated shower bands to the spaceport," forecasters wrote in an outlook issued Saturday. "The primary weather threats are cumulus clouds and thick clouds with the onshore flow. Maximum upper-level winds will be from the northwest at 90 knots near 40,000 feet."

The launch window opens at 8 p.m. EST Sunday (0100 GMT Monday). SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket will lift off from pad 40 at Cape Canaveral with the U.S. government's mysterious Zuma payload, and the first stage will attempt to land back on Florida's Space Coast less than 10 minutes later.

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Conditions at launch time should be mostly cloudy with isolated rain showers, northeast winds at 20 to 25 mph, and a temperature of 60 degrees Fahrenheit.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186095.jpg) Robin Seemangal‏Подлинная учетная запись @nova_road (https://twitter.com/nova_road) 12 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/nova_road/status/950010681109241856)

Good morning from #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) SLC 40 at Cape Canaveral! The secret Zuma payload is slated to liftoff atop the Falcon 9 during a two-hour window opening at 8PM Eastern.
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/125426.png): @JRouRouRou (https://twitter.com/JRouRouRou)
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ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет:

Идут к своей цели -- 12 часов от вывоза до пуска?

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:
Судя по закрытой пристартовой зоне - на МКС с пирожками летят?

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет:
Идут к своей цели -- 12 часов от вывоза до пуска?

Цитировать01/07/2018 19:12

The 229-foot-tall (70-meter) Falcon 9 rocket is standing vertical atop pad 40 at Cape Canaveral ahead of tonight's launch scheduled for a two-hour window opening at 8 p.m. EST (0100 GMT).

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Fitted with landing legs and four aerodynamic fins to aid in the booster's descent back to Earth, the Falcon 9 will head northeast from Florida's Space Coast with a top secret payload named Zuma for the U.S. government.

Little is known about the payload's purpose or design, other than it is likely headed for low Earth orbit a few hundred miles above Earth. Northrop Grumman was in charge of procuring a commercial launch for the payload on behalf of the government.

The government agency responsible for the mission has not been disclosed. A spokesperson for the National Reconnaissance Office has confirmed to Spaceflight Now that Zuma does not belong to that agency, and none of the military services have claimed ownership.

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Assuming launch is targeted for the opening of tonight's window, fueling of the two-stage rocket with rocket-grade RP-1 kerosene should begin at 6:50 p.m. EST (2350 GMT). Liquid oxygen will begin flowing into the rocket at 7:25 p.m. EST (0025 GMT).

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

Значит орбита как у USA 276. Можно начинать гадать о плоскости.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Чего, в ту же плоскость? :oops:

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg)  SpaceX‏Подлинная учетная запись @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)  14 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/950068585048588288)

Weather is 80% favorable for today's two-hour launch window which opens at 8 PM EST.
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Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:
https://sattrackcam.blogspot.ru/2018/01/a-new-launch-attempt-for-zuma.html

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A SpaceX falcon 9 rocket sits on Pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. The rocket, carrying the classified Zuma payload, is scheduled for launch later this evening. http://on.flatoday.com/2m9sSYv  (https://t.co/q6JD3Mdogr)
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ЦитироватьFalcon 9 Ready for Secretive Zuma Launch after Two-Month Delay
January 7, 2018 (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/falcon-9-ready-for-secretive-zuma-launch-after-two-month-delay/)

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Photo: SpaceX (File Image)

After almost two months of delays and a launch pad switch, SpaceX is finally ready to launch the classified Zuma spacecraft for Northrop Grumman and a shadowy U.S. government organization that has yet to be named. Gearing up for its year-opening launch, the Falcon 9 rocket is targeting liftoff fr om Cape Canaveral's Space Launch Complex 40 during a two hour window opening at 1 UTC on Monday, 8 p.m. local time on Sunday.

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Even before taking flight, Zuma has been a enigmatic mission on many counts – showing up on the SpaceX launch schedule with barely a month's notice and remaining completely shrouded in secrecy during a multi-week launch delay. Zuma is the most secretive U.S. space mission in recent memory, coming with only a few bits of public information.

It was revealed that Zuma was procured by an unnamed U.S. government agency fr om Northrop Grumman in a delivery-in-orbit-style contract that has the prime contractor handle everything from satellite development, manufacture, launch and commissioning before turning a fully functional asset over to its operator.

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Zuma Launch Hazard Areas – Image: Spaceflight101/GoogleEarth

The launch azimuth – revealed through public Notices to Airmen and Mariners – shows Zuma is headed into a Low Earth Orbit at an inclination of around 50 degrees. Analysis of the identified impact area of the Falcon 9 second stage shows Zuma is probably targeting an orbital altitude of 300 to 500 Kilometers, though a three-burn mission into a 1,000-Kilometer orbit also fits these constraints.

In terms of secrecy, Zuma is reminiscent of the PAN and CLIO missions of 2009 and 2014 that were revealed in Snowden Documents to be electronic intelligence satellites (http://spaceflight101.com/snowden-documents-reveal-mysterious-pan-satellite/) under tasking by the NSA and CIA to provide "a site in the sky" to vacuum up entire uplinks to foreign communications satellites that could not be accessed otherwise. Looking at the mission design, Zuma bears more resemblance to the classified NROL-76 mission (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-nrol-76/) launching in May 2017, also atop a Falcon 9, and entering a 400-Kilometer, 50° orbit that took it within a few Kilometers of the International Space Station two weeks after launch.

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NROL-76 Mission Patch – Image: NRO

With Zuma heading into the same general neighborhood as NROL-76 and the Air Force's classified X-37B also flying in a higher-inclined orbit than its predecessors, an interesting case appears to be emerging with several classified missions conducting business in Low Earth Orbit. Whether any relation exists between NROL-76, the X-37B and Zuma remains to be seen as a worldwide community of satellite trackers stands at the ready to monitor their activity over the coming weeks and months.

Getting Zuma off the launch pad has proven difficult for SpaceX, initially aiming for launch on November 15 as the mission took priority on the company's launch manifest after Northrop Grumman communicated to SpaceX the company needed the satellite in orbit by November 30 to meet critical revenue targets. Falcon 9 completed its Static Fire test on November 11 and was integrated with the classified payload over the following days before returning to the launch pad.

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Zuma atop LC-39A – Photo: SpaceX

A one-day delay to November 16 was called when Falcon 9 was already standing at Launch Complex 39A and photographers had been allowed to set up remote cameras. Liftoff was then put off indefinitely as SpaceX "decided to stand down and take a closer look at data from recent fairing testing for another customer." Falcon 9 then returned to the Horizontal Integration Facility and, by November 22, had been taken off the Transporter, Erector, Launcher – indicating a longer delay was to be expected.

The 13-meter tall payload fairing containing the Zuma spacecraft and hiding it from public view departed LC-39A on November 22 with launch being postponed to January 4, 2018. Falcon 9 was transferred from the LC-39A HIF to the pad-side hangar at Space Launch Complex 40 on December 15 – switching launch pads after SLC-40 returned to full service (http://spaceflight101.com/dragon-spx13/) with the successful launch of SpaceX's 13th operational Dragon mission.

The two-stage rocket was placed onto SLC-40 on January 2nd and went through a Wet Dress Rehearsal – completing a full tanking sequence and remaining loaded for some time according to local observations. Another such test was completed on the 4th when liftoff had already slipped to Saturday night. Unfavorable upper level winds were given as the reason behind the day-to-day slips and launch eventually settled for Sunday night with a window of 1 to 3 UTC.

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Photo: SpaceX (File)

Whether the additional tests conducted atop SLC-40 were for the new pad systems or part of SpaceX's due diligence ahead of a high-profile launch has not been revealed. It is however clear that this mission is treated slightly differently than SpaceX's previous launches – apparently up to the highest level as there are unconfirmed reports (https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/7dgvlz/spacex_launch_of_secretive_zuma_mission_from_ksc/dpy98qs/) of SpaceX CEO Elon Musk informing his workforce to be vigilant of any inklings of issues since Zuma was the most valuable satellite they had ever handled.

Falcon 9 returned to SLC-40 Saturday night as SpaceX pushes into the final leg of a lengthy launch campaign. Depending on wh ere T-0 will be set within the two-hour launch period, Falcon 9 will enter propellant loading as early at 23:50 UTC on Sunday after going through detailed checkouts as part of its early countdown sequence. As computers take control, the two-stage vehicle will receive some 500 metric tons of sub-cooled Liquid Oxygen and chilled Rocket Propellant 1 with tanking closing out just two minutes before launch.

Thundering into the night under the power of its nine Merlin 1D engines, Falcon 9 will align itself with the desired launch azimuth to the North East similar to SpaceX's ISS launches as well as the NROL-76 mission of last year.

Another interesting piece of information evident in SpaceX's Press Kits for the planned Zuma launch in November and the re-aligned date of January 8 is a longer first stage burn. If launching in November, Zuma would have had a two-minute and 16-second first stage burn – the shortest-ever for Falcon 9. For Sunday night's launch, the MECO time is given as T+140 seconds.

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Photo: SpaceX (File)

One possible explanation is the change in season from November's target launch date to the new January liftoff, coming with a significant drop in temperature and a denser lower atmosphere. This causes additional aerodynamic losses in the early ascent phase which may be compensated by extending the first stage burn.

Another potential reason for the higher performance need may be found in additional plane change maneuvers required from the second stage to reach the target orbit vs. the optimized launch period in November (assuming 'revenue targets' were used as a disguise for the actual factors dictating the Nov. 15 to 30 launch period).

Regardless, the fairly short first stage burn time for Zuma is a strong indication of the satellite being of low mass (compared to other Falcon 9 payloads), requiring a low-altitude orbit or a combination of the two. Stage separation three seconds after MECO will be followed at T+2 minutes and 24 seconds by ignition of the MVac engine on the second stage to push the secretive payload into orbit. Payload fairing jettison three minutes and eight seconds into flight will be the last ascent milestone to be confirmed.

>> Flight Profile (http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/flight-profile/)

Per the given trajectory, the Falcon 9 second stage will continue north east across the Atlantic, arriving in orbit before passing over Europe and potentially entering daylight over the Arabian Peninsula. In case of a single-burn ascent, Zuma and the Falcon 9 second stage would already be going their separate ways; a two-burn profile into an orbit over 600 Kilometers in altitude would require circularization after half an orbit of coasting; and the unlikely scenario of a three-burn profile would see the second stage re-start 20 and 68 minutes after launch to reach a higher orbit of around 1,000 Kilometers. Re-Entry of the second stage will occur one and a half orbits after launch.

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Falcon Heavy on its day out – Photo: SpaceX

Booster #1043 will initiate a rocket-powered U-turn at the point of stage separation, going through a boost-back and re-entry burn before firing up its center engine and deploying its landing legs toward a soft touchdown in Cape Canaveral's Landing Zone 1, around nine Kilometers from wh ere Falcon 9 launched. If successful, this would mark SpaceX's ninth land-based recovery.

Falcon Heavy, SpaceX's next major event after this mission, is contingent on Zuma getting off the launch pad to re-focus the team's attention on the vehicle's Wet Dress Rehearsal and Static Fire Testing coming up within days of Zuma's launch. Liftoff has been pushed from a mid-January target to NET late January.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185376.jpg) Spaceflight101 LIVE‏ @S101_Live (https://twitter.com/S101_Live) 20 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/S101_Live/status/950140240387125249)

Now inside T-2 hours to the opening of tonight's #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) launch period. Up next is a repetition of RF link checks and Autonomous Flight Termination System testing before the launch team proceeds into final tanking preps and cross-country lines chillldown.

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Based on the direction of the Launch Hazard Area & location of the Stage 2 re-entry zone, the most likely orbit candidate for #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) is a Low Earth Orbit inclined 50-52° at an altitude between 300 and 500 Kilometers, though a higher orbit ~1,000km could also fit.
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Цитировать01/08/2018 02:00

The Falcon 9 launch window opens in two hours, and the forecast has improved as the U.S. Air Force weather team now predicts a 90 percent chance of acceptable conditions for liftoff and landing at Cape Canaveral.

"Winds across the Space Coast have become northeasterly, bringing in clouds off the water," meteorologists wrote in an official launch weather forecast issued earlier this afternoon. "These clouds will thicken and become more prevalent after sunset and through the day tomorrow. The primary weather threat remains a slight risk of cumulus clouds developing with the onshore flow. Maximum upper-level winds will be from the northwest at 90 knots near 40,000 feet."

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This builds an interesting case of 3 classified spacecraft conducting business in potentially similar orbits: #NROL76 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NROL76?src=hash), launched last May, in a 374 x 407km orbit, 50°, the X-37B at a higher inclination than its predecessors, & #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) also heading into this general neighborhood.

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L-90 Minutes: The second round of RF link checks and AFTS testing should be complete. SLC-40 should be clear and pre-tanking setup steps underway to ready the cross-country lines for prop load.

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L-80 Minutes: Final range safety checks are complete and the Launch Team should be given their final weather briefing shortly ahead of polling at L-73. #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash)

Цитировать01/08/2018 02:36

The flight hazard and caution areas are confirmed clear and roadblocks are in place around pad 40 as SpaceX steps through countdown procedures ahead of tanking operations this evening.

Цитировать01/08/2018 02:40

Range safety hold-fire checks have been completed normally.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 3 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/950151559270273024)

Propellant load poll complete. No constraints reported. Fueling to start at 18:50 EST. Targeting launch at the opening of the window at 20:00 EST.

Цитировать01/08/2018 02:48

SpaceX's launch director confirms the Falcon 9 team is "go" to begin loading propellants into the two-stage rocket at pad 40. The team is also currently "go" for launch.

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T-70 Minutes & COUNTING - Automated Countdown Sequence. Computers are now in control of the complex tanking sequence, picking up with loading some 155 metric tons of chilled Rocket Propellant 1 into the two-stage vehicle.

Цитировать01/08/2018 02:52

Fuel flow rates into the Falcon 9 first stage are reported normal.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:00

RP-1 kerosene fuel is now being loaded into the Falcon 9's second stage.

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T-60 minutes until launch of Zuma. Launch webcast will go live about 20 minutes before liftoff → http://spacex.com/webcast (https://t.co/gtC39uBC7z)

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Inside T-1 hour. #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) has entered prop load as planned and is counting toward liftoff at 1:00 UTC. After tanking starts, the available window time is shortened due to propellant temperature requirements.

ЦитироватьUpd ated: 01/08/2018 03:07

SpaceX's live coverage of today's launch will be different than normal. The company's webcast coverage of the ascent portion of the flight will end around 3 minutes after liftoff, once the Falcon 9's payload fairing is jettisoned, at the request of the mission's U.S. government customer.

Live video of the first stage's descent and landing will continue, with touchdown se t for T+plus 7 minutes, 56 seconds, at Landing Zone 1 at nearby Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

Follow the major events of the launch and landing with this timeline. (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/15/falcon-9-flight-timeline-for-the-zuma-mission/)

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:12

First and second stage fuel flow rates continue to be normal.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:22

The first stage's RP-1 fuel tank has reached its initial filling target.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:25

T-minus 35 minutes. Liquid oxygen is now being loaded into the Falcon 9 rocket. Both stages burn the same RP-1 kerosene/liquid oxygen mixture.

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F9/Zuma: Fueling is well underway, consistent with a launch at the opening of the window

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:27

First stage liquid oxygen flow rates are looking good.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:30

T-minus 30 minutes and counting. Here are some statistics on today's flight:

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• 47th launch of a Falcon 9 rocket since 2010
• 52nd launch of Falcon rocket family since 2006
• 1st launch of Falcon 9 Vehicle No. 43
• 40th Falcon 9 launch from Cape Canaveral
• 28th Falcon 9 launch from pad 40
• 27th launch of the upgraded Falcon 9
• 17th Falcon 9 night launch
• 1st Falcon 9 launch of 2018
• 1st launch from Cape Canaveral in 2018
  

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:37

Chilldown of the plumbing on pad 40's strongback tower has started in anticipation of the beginning of liquid oxygen loading into the Falcon 9's second stage.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:40

T-minus 20 minutes and counting. There are no issues being discussed at this time by the SpaceX launch team.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 1 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/950165401014538243)

LOX load of Stage 2 has started.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:53

T-minus 7 minutes. Prevalves leading to the Falcon 9's Merlin 1D first stage engines are opening, permitting super-cold liquid oxygen to flow into the engines to condition the turbopumps for ignition.
And topping of the first stage's RP-1 fuel tank to flight level has started.

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T-6 Minutes: #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) is now switching off heaters in preparation for its transition to internal power. Final fuel and oxidizer top-up is underway and a verification of Flight Control System alignment is coming up shortly.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:55

T-minus 5 minutes and counting. Alignment of the Falcon 9's navigation system for liftoff is now underway. The first stage's kerosene fuel tank has been topped off.

Цитировать01/08/2018 03:57

The first stage's liquid oxygen tank is confirmed topped off to flight level.

ЦитироватьLesobaza пишет:

Комментатор СпасеХ: "Первая ступень села. Всем спасибо. Все свободны".

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185953.jpg) Joey Roulette‏ @JRouRouRou (https://twitter.com/JRouRouRou) 8 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/JRouRouRou/status/950173041039945728)

A long exposure photo of SpaceX's Zuma mission just now, capturing the stage separation and boostback burn over Cape Canaveral, Florida.
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#SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash)'s #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) rocket launches the classified #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) payload at 8pm and lands its first stage back at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Landing Zone 1 shortly after in this three-image long exposure composite photograph taken from Cocoa Beach.
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ЦитироватьFirst Rocket Launch of 2018 with SpaceX Falcon 9 and Zuma Payload

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Опубликовано: 7 янв. 2018 г.

ЦитироватьZUMA Mission
 
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Top-Secret #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) Spacecraft Blasts Off on First #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) Mission of 2018

- http://spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-zuma/falcon-9-launches-secret-zuma-spacecraft/ ... (https://t.co/60JIPADFHZ)

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Achievement unlocked.
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Congratulations Sharks & @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)! What an incredible way to start off 2018 w/the world's 1st successful launch and landing of this year!

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Still no official launch success confirmation for #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash). If all went according to plan, it would be around this time the #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) second stage re-enters over the Indian Ocean.

ЦитироватьSpaceX запустила ракету Falcon 9 с секретным правительственным спутником

Космос (http://tass.ru/kosmos) | 8 января, 4:37 дата обновления: 8 января, 4:56 UTC+3

Это первый запуск американской компании в 2018 году

ВАШИНГТОН, 8 января. /ТАСС/. Американская компания SpaceX в воскресенье запустила ракету Falcon 9 с секретным правительственным спутником Zuma. Трансляцию запуска вела сама компания.

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Это первый запуск SpaceX в 2018 году, он был произведен с базы ВВС США на мысе Канаверал в ранее специально обозначенный двухчасовой отрезок. Информация о том, какие именно функции выполняет спутник, не распространяется. Falcon 9 стартовала приблизительно в 20:00 (04:00 понедельника мск). Через восемь минут первая ступень носителя в вертикальном положении благополучно опустилась на специальную посадочную площадку.

SpaceX была выбрана в качестве оператора запуска и производителя ракеты компанией-подрядчиком американского министерства обороны Northrop Grumman, не малую роль тут сыграла стоимость запуска при помощи многоразовой ракеты.

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186290.jpg) Julia‏ @julia_bergeron (https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron) 6 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/950226511839318017)

The bubble at staging was beautiful tonight! Upper dot is the first stage while low https://piccollage.com/_L7HRyzZF  (https://t.co/B7f3bcVdXi)
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ЦитироватьPirat5 пишет:
Ура!
теперь можно спокойно заняться Хэви

ЦитироватьSpaceX kicks off ambitious 2018 schedule with launch for U.S. government
January 8, 2018 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/01/) Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

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Two streaks in this long exposure photo show the Falcon 9 rocket lifting off from Cape Canaveral's pad 40, and then its first stage returning to Earth at a nearby landing pad. Credit: SpaceX

Running nearly two months late after technical concerns prevented liftoff last year, a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket fired into the sky Sunday night from Cape Canaveral with a top secret payload for the U.S. government, the first of some 30 launches on the company's docket in 2018.

The nighttime blastoff at 8 p.m. EST Sunday (0100 GMT Monday) put on a light show for observers on Florida's Space Coast.

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The 229-foot-tall (70-meter) Falcon 9 rocket soared to the northeast from Cape Canaveral's Complex 40 launch pad, arcing over the Atlantic Ocean as nine Merlin engines on its first stage booster powered the launcher skyward on 1.7 million pounds of thrust.

The U.S. government's top secret Zuma payload was fastened on top of the Falcon 9 rocket, heading to orbit on a mission shrouded in a cloak of secrecy.

The purpose and orbital target of the Zuma mission were not disclosed in advance of Sunday night's launch, and the final stages of Zuma's climb into orbit and deployment from the Falcon 9's upper stage occurred in a news blackout at the request of the craft's government owner.

Meanwhile, SpaceX's live webcast of the flight focused on the descent and landing of the Falcon 9's 15-story-tall first stage booster back at Cape Canaveral around eight minutes after liftoff.

The first stage rose to a peak altitude of around 77 miles (125 kilometers) before falling back to Earth. Three engine burns guided the rocket toward Landing Zone 1, a target on the Atlantic coastline around 6 miles (9 kilometers) south of the Complex 40 launch pad.

Grid fins helped stabilize the rocket's descent, and four landing legs unfurled from the base of the booster as it settled to a pinpoint touchdown, marking the 21st time SpaceX has recovered one of its first stage boosters intact.

Crackling sonic booms heralded the rocket's return to Earth.

Sunday night's launch was the first of a jam-packed 2018 campaign planned by SpaceX. Two of the company's leaders — chief executive Elon Musk and president Gwynne Shotwell — have said SpaceX aims for around 30 missions this year from launch pads in Florida and California.

That would best last year's mark of 18 launches, all of which were successful.

Sunday's launch extended SpaceX's streak of successful missions to 19 in a row, dating back to a rocket explosion at Cape Canaveral in 2016 that destroyed an Israeli-owned commercial communications satellite.

SpaceX originally intended to launch the Zuma mission in mid-November, but officials grounded the rocket to review the readiness of the nose fairing that covered the payload during the first few minutes of the mission.

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The Falcon 9 rocket takes off from Cape Canaveral's Complex 40 launch pad at 8 p.m. EST Sunday (0100 GMT Monday). Credit: Steven Young/Spaceflight Now

Managers swapped the order of Falcon 9 launches at Cape Canaveral, and a space station resupply flight — which did not use a fairing — jumped ahead of Zuma in SpaceX's queue in December.

The delay also meant Zuma's launch was relocated to pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station from nearby pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. Launch pad 39A is now being readied for SpaceX's maiden Falcon Heavy test flight, a much-anticipated launch now expected in late January.

The fate of the Zuma payload launched Sunday was not immediately clear.

Officials with Northrop Grumman, the spacecraft's manufacturer, did not confirm the status of the mission after it flew into a government-imposed news blackout shortly after liftoff.

No U.S. government agency has claimed ownership of the payload.

A spokesperson for the National Reconnaissance Office, which owns the government's classified spy satellite fleet, confirmed to Spaceflight Now that Zuma does not belong to that agency.

While details of its spacecraft are top secret, the NRO typically acknowledges its role in satellite missions.

Analysts who regularly track space activity believe Zuma was headed for an orbit a few hundred miles above Earth, with an inclination to the equator of around 50 degrees. The prediction was based on information about the rocket's ground track released to ensure aircraft and ships stayed safely away during launch.

The Falcon 9's second stage was expected to reignite its engine after releasing Zuma in orbit for a final braking maneuver to fall back into the atmosphere over the Indian Ocean southwest of Australia a few hours into the mission.

Satellite trackers suspected last year that Zuma might be related to a mysterious NRO satellite launched by SpaceX in May 2017. A previous target launch date and time Nov. 16 would have coincided with the orbital path of the NRO craft, named USA-276, as it flew over Cape Canaveral, according to Marco Langbroek, an experienced amateur satellite tracker who lives in the Netherlands.

But the USA-276 satellite was well away from Zuma's expected trajectory based on Sunday's launch time, putting that theory to rest.

"So basically, I have no clue what #Zuma is up to...," Langbroek tweeted Sunday night.

Цитировать(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/172533.jpg) (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950174765582602240/photo/1)

 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185303.jpg) Dr Marco Langbroek @Marco_Langbroek  (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek)

This is what I think is the approximate #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) trajectory for the coming 1.5 revolutions:

 4:18 AM - Jan 8, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950174765582602240)

"Northrop Grumman is proud to be a part of the Zuma launch," the aerospace contractor said in a statement before the flight. "This event represents a cost effective approach to space access for government missions. The U.S. government assigned Northrop Grumman the responsibility of acquiring launch services for this mission. We have procured the Falcon 9 launch service from SpaceX.

"As a company, Northrop Grumman realizes that this is monumental responsibility and have taken great care to ensure the most affordable and lowest risk scenario for Zuma."

Northrop Grumman called Zuma a "restricted payload" and confirmed it was heading for low Earth orbit, a region in space several hundred miles above the planet.

Two more Falcon 9 missions are scheduled for this month, in addition to the Falcon Heavy test flight from the Kennedy Space Center.

A Falcon 9 rocket is set to launch a dual-purpose U.S.-built communications satellite from Cape Canaveral's pad 40 no earlier than Jan. 30 for SES and the government of Luxembourg.

Another Falcon 9 flight is being readied at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California to launch the Spanish Paz Earth observation satellite in late January.

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ЦитироватьMax Andriyahov пишет:
С почином! Кто следующий?

Цитироватьhttps://ria.ru/science/20180108/1512235820.html 
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Для SpaceX это второй запуск секретной миссии для нужд правительства или разведки, ранее в мае прошлого года Falcon 9 осуществила запуск аппарата для национального разведуправления США.

Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:
Спокойно, наверное, не получится. В конце месяца чуть ли не в один день с двух берегов две РН (ну эт если без переносов-сдвигов)...

ЦитироватьПытаюсь найти ссылку про перенос. 

ЦитироватьPirat5 пишет:
Уже сейчас есть перенос PAZа на февраль (это почти за месяц!), а он ведь на Ванде, и никак с другими спутниками не связан, если только с Ирридиумами.

ЦитироватьPirat5 пишет:
Уже сейчас есть перенос PAZа на февраль (это почти за месяц!), а он ведь на Ванде, и никак с другими спутниками не связан, если только с Ирридиумами.

ЦитироватьВиктор Воропаев пишет:
Напомните, пожалуйста, где по NOTAM просматривалось затопление второй ступени?

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186291.jpg) TomCross‏ @_TomCross_ (https://twitter.com/_TomCross_) 13 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/_TomCross_/status/950281149871542272)

My favorite remote camera image I took from last nights Zuma launch. My camera was setup at the launch pad and fitted with a Miops Smart Trigger.
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Цитировать Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)

Chris B - NSF Ретвитнул(а) Peter B. de Selding
 
There were certainly some words floating around, but most didn't pass the filter of panicking about no "presser" from SpaceX per mission success. If it did fail, then I'd go with the spacecraft, because a LV fail would cause a SpaceX standdown and they can't keep that secret.
 
 Chris B - NSF добавил(а),
 
 Peter B. de Selding @pbdes
Zuma satellite from @northropgrumman may be dead in orbit after separation from @SpaceX Falcon 9, sources say. Info blackout renders any conclusion - launcher issue? Satellite-only issue? -- impossible to draw.
 
 13:21 - 8 янв. 2018 г.

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:
То ли умерла по прибытии, то ли ракета глюканула, то ли следы заметают :-)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185302.jpg) Dr Marco Langbroek‏ @Marco_Langbroek (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek) 5 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950435253319012353)

Received (via @govertschilling (https://twitter.com/govertschilling)) a credible, photographically documented sighting by a Dutch pilot flying over east Africa of what could very well be the depressurization of the #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) upper stage of last night's @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) launch, prior to de-orbit.

ЦитироватьFrom: Marco Langbroek via Seesat-l
 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 21:35:40 +0100

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> Op 8 jan. 2018 om 19:24 heeft Marco Langbroek via Seesat-l het volgende geschreven:
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> Op 8-1-2018 om 19:10 schreef Marco Langbroek via Seesat-l:
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>> The images definitely show something rocket-related. Time reportedly was near
>> 2:18 UT (January 8), location flying above Khartoum in Sudan.
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> The time quoted bothers me a bit, as it is too early. 3:18 UT rather than 2:18
> UT would match my approximate Zuma trajectory reconstruction better, as 3:18 UT
> would place the Zuma rb around East Africa.
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> I have put out some questions to the eyewitness, so maybe mor eon this later.


I have had contact with the pilot now, and the initially quoted time was in error by one hour and should be ~3:18 UT. The flight log shows the aircraft passed Khartoum around 3:25 UT. On the images, Khartoum can be seen in front of the (southbound) aircraft.

This also confirms that my orbital estimate for Zuma appears to be correct. In my orbit estimate for the upper stage, it would pass over east Africa ~3:15 UT, i.e. the times match to within minutes.

I will post the images on my blog later this week.

- Marco

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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185302.jpg) Dr Marco Langbroek‏ @Marco_Langbroek (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek) 5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950507412045352961)

(1/5) About the rumours that #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) or its Falcon 9 failed: I have a positive, photographically documented observation of the Falcon 9 upper stage venting fuel after re-entry burn, ahead of re-entry, over East Africa some 2h15m after launch. Pretty much where it ought to be.

5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950507414150877184)

(2/5) This shows that the Falcon 9 certainly did reach what appears to be the intended 50 deg inclined LEO orbit & did its nominal re-entry burn. NB: it is *normal* for rb to vent fuel after re-entry burn (avoids risk of explosions on orbit creating space debris).

5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950507417095344130)

(3/5) so if anything went wrong at all (which so far are rumours only, and they need not be true at all), it is either with #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) being succesfully deployed but dead on orbit, or not detaching from the Falcon 9 upper stage.

5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950507418701660160)

(4/5) So at the moment, I am "suspicious" of these rumours. I would tend to dismiss them, unless a clear statement is issued by @spaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) or the US Government.

5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950507420199071746)

(5/5) #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash) will not be visible to observers in the Northern Hemisphere untill a week or two from now, so that is the earliets that we might confirm whether something is on-orbit or not. But for the moment, I believe it is up there.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185302.jpg) Dr Marco Langbroek‏ @Marco_Langbroek (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek) 2 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950509102970621957)

This is the image taken by Dutch pilot Peter Horstink, from his aircraft over Khartoum near 3:15 UT, 2h 15m after launch. This is probably the Falcon 9 venting fuel. #Zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Zuma?src=hash)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/172690.jpg)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185302.jpg) Dr Marco Langbroek‏ @Marco_Langbroek (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek) 2 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/950509527920672769)

Similar to the image by the Dutch Pilot (see my previous tweet). But I think this is *normal* fuel venting by the Falcon 9 upper stage prior to re-entry.

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/938100894918377473/xhNtUva-_bigger.jpg) Brian Stofiel‏ @NecromanceRaven (https://twitter.com/NecromanceRaven) 39 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NecromanceRaven/status/950500422032265216)

Coming out of Sudan is this the failed Zuma spinning out of control? #spacex (https://twitter.com/hashtag/spacex?src=hash) #nasa (https://twitter.com/hashtag/nasa?src=hash) #zuma (https://twitter.com/hashtag/zuma?src=hash) #spaceflight (https://twitter.com/hashtag/spaceflight?src=hash) #space (https://twitter.com/hashtag/space?src=hash)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/172689.jpg)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185396.jpg) Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/950482399355338752)

SpaceX spokesperson says, "We do not comment on missions of this nature; but as of right now reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally."

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186095.jpg) Robin Seemangal‏Подлинная учетная запись @nova_road (https://twitter.com/nova_road) 3 мин назад (https://twitter.com/nova_road/status/950524599418216448)

This is all I got from Northrop on Zuma: "This is a classified mission. We cannot comment on classified missions."

Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:
reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет: 
Могли бы они это сказать, если бы спутник не отделился?

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет:

Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:
reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally

Могли бы они это сказать, если бы спутник не отделился?

ЦитироватьГришель Максим пишет:

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет:
Могли бы они это сказать, если бы спутник не отделился?

Нет. Если спутник не отделился это провал запуска.

ЦитироватьA highly classified U.S. government satellite appears to have been totally lost after being taken into space by a recent launch from Elon Musk's (https://www.cnbc.com/elon-musk/) SpaceX, according to a new report.
Dow Jones reported Monday (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-satellite-believed-lost-after-spacex-mission-fails-1515462479) evening that lawmakers had been briefed about the apparent destruction of the secretive payload — code-named Zuma — citing industry and government officials
The payload was suspected to have burned up in the atmosphere after failing to separate perfectly from the upper part of the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, the report said.

According to Dow Jones, the absence of official word on the incident means that there could have been another chain of events.
The missing satellite may have been worth billions of dollars, industry officials estimated to the wire service.

Цитировать...Согласно отчёту Dow Jonses, в понедельник вечером депутаты обсудили разрушение секретной полезной нагрузки Zuma. Предполагается что пн сгорела в атмосфере после того как не смогла отделиться от верхней части Falcon 9....

ЦитироватьНЬЮ-ЙОРК, 9 января. /ТАСС/. Секретный спутник под кодовым обозначением Zuma, запущенный в воскресенье ракетой-носителем Falcon 9 американской компании SpaceX, не достиг расчетной орбиты и разбился при падении в океан. Об этом сообщило в понедельник информационное агентство Reuters (http://reuters.com/).
Оно ссылается на информацию должностных лиц США, которые на брифинге были поставлены в известность о неудачном запуске. Zuma не смог вовремя отделиться от второй ступени носителя и либо разрушился в космосе, не достигнув расчетной орбиты, либо разбился при падении в океан. Вооруженные силы США исходят из того, что спутник "списан с баланса".

ЦитироватьМОСКВА, 9 янв — РИА Новости. Связь с американским секретным спутником, запущенным в воскресенье, потеряна, сообщает Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-satellite-believed-lost-after-spacex-mission-fails-1515462479) со ссылкой на двух чиновников.
В США начали расследование, однако на данный момент нет признаков диверсии или какого-либо другого вмешательства.
"Мы не комментируем подобные миссии. Однако на данный момент показатели данных указывают на то, что Falcon 9 выполняет свою задачу номинально", — заявил представитель SpaceX Джеймс Глисон.

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
Очень широкое поле для обсуждений открывается по системе подсчета статистики.

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
Очень широкое поле для обсуждений открывается по системе подсчета статистики.

Да никакого поля.
Если Флакон выдал напругу на пироэлементы, а те не сработали (или сработали а замок не открылся) - это дело чисто изготовителя устройства отделения. По ТЛМ видно на раз.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:
+1 ULA в конкурентной борьбе со СпейсХ, -1 дорогущий спутник NSA (как бы не самый дорогой).

В этой ветке можно обсудить

Цитироватьhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTDbGB-WsAAFWCc.jpg

Цитироватьmind22 пишет:
И что, теперь будет долгое разбирательство, сдвиг вправо по пускам?
И если будет, сколько это по времени?

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Вы с ума сошли! красный родстер на кону!

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

Цитироватьmind22 пишет:
И что, теперь будет долгое разбирательство, сдвиг вправо по пускам?
И если будет, сколько это по времени?

Вы с ума сошли! красный родстер на кону!

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Неплохое начало года.
Мои поздравления Пентагону и лично Элону Маску.

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
Очень широкое поле для обсуждений открывается по системе подсчета статистики.

Да никакого поля.
Если Флакон выдал напругу на пироэлементы, а те не сработали (или сработали а замок не открылся) - это дело чисто изготовителя устройства отделения. По ТЛМ видно на раз.

Канопус-СТ напомнить?

Цитироватьmind22 пишет:
И что, теперь будет долгое разбирательство, сдвиг вправо по пускам F9?

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

Был какой-то малый/нано аппарат, который аналогично клиент пожелал отделять своей железкой. И который так и остался на месте. Для Роскосмоса тогда это был 100% успешный пуск. Кто-нибудь название помнит?

Цитировать09.01.2018          Reuters: SpaceX не смогла вывести на орбиту секретный спутник США (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/35551/)
       

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
поскольку накосячили разработчики адаптера

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
А вариант что спутник вообще не должен быть отделяется, а может это и вообще не спутник?

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
поскольку накосячили разработчики адаптера

это уже окончательно?

Цитироватьtestest пишет: поскольку накосячили разработчики адаптера.

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
А вариант что спутник вообще не должен быть отделяется, а может это и вообще не спутник?

Заброска диверсанта в Северную Корею?

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
А вариант что спутник вообще не должен быть отделяется, а может это и вообще не спутник?

Заброска диверсанта в Северную Корею?

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:
В американский каталог внесен один объект 43098 / 2018-001A с названием USA-280.

Номер 43099-43101 и обозначение 2018-002 отданы первому китайскому пуску с "Гаоцзинями".

Думаю, так и останется. В графе "сход с орбиты" останется пустота, и гадай теперь, была ли Zuma, не было ли, и куда она делась. И не прикрытие ли весь этот кипиш с участием WSJ и прочих?

Да, говорят, в ЮАР очень обеспокоены итогом пуска. Особенно президент Jacob Zuma обеспокоен :-)

Цитироватьjavax пишет:
они все равно будут знать на какой орбите находится объект

ЦитироватьFrom: Marco Langbroek via Seesat-l
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 01:02:23 +0100

Спойлер

Код Выделить Развернуть

Hi all,

The sightings of the Falcon 9 upper stage from the Zuma launch venting fuel over
East Africa some 2h 15m after launch, suggests that Zuma might be in a higher
orbit than in my pre-launch estimate. Rather than ~400 km it might be ~900-1000 km.

These are two *very preliminary* new elset estimates. I will see whether further
analysis of the images might lead me to further revise the orbit estimate.

Zuma                                                     895 x 905 km
1 70000U 18999A   18008.04166667  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0    09
2 70000 050.0006 016.6385 0006870 048.9951 328.2490 13.98210309    00

Zuma                                                    995 x 1005 km
1 70001U 18999A   18008.04166667  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0    00
2 70001 050.0003 016.6517 0006777 048.9870 328.8923 13.69880760    00

If correct, this means Zuma might become observable in the N hemisphere about a
week from now.

I advise to target both the previous 400 km and 900-1000 km orbit estimates.
At least, we have a reasonable idea of the orbital plane the spacecraft is in.
Allow for spacious time around the nominal pass times, and spacious cross-track
error.

- Marco

[свернуть]

ЦитироватьKotofan пишет:

Цитироватьjavax пишет:
они все равно будут знать на какой орбите находится объект

А если он стелс?

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
стелс-солнечные батареи?

Цитироватьjavax пишет:
А в чем смысл имитировать сход с орбиты? Россия и Китай ведь все равно отслеживают все объекты в космосе и если наврать про неудачный запуск, они все равно будут знать на какой орбите находится объект

ЦитироватьГришель Максим пишет:
Zuma работает на своей орбите, пока не доказано обратное.

ЦитироватьСатурн-5 пишет: 
Очень смелое утверждение про ВСЕ объекты. Где вы этого нахватались, какая-нибудь газета "Завтра"? )

ЦитироватьСатурн-5 пишет: 
Zuma отсутствует на орбите, пока не доказано обратное )

Цитироватьjavax пишет:
Я не специалист, где то читал что обнаруживаются все объекты размером более 10 см

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

Цитироватьtestest пишет: поскольку накосячили разработчики адаптера.

Вот ента картинка вызывает некоторые сомнения  :)

 

Авторитет Нортропа весит поболе шапкозакидательства СпейсЭкс.

ЦитироватьKotofan пишет:

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
стелс-солнечные батареи?

Для стелсспутника можно и ритег поставить.

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
А вариант что спутник вообще не должен быть отделяется, а может это и вообще не спутник?

Заброска диверсанта в Северную Корею?

Цитироватьjavax пишет:
А в чем смысл имитировать сход с орбиты? Россия и Китай ведь все равно отслеживают все объекты в космосе и если наврать про неудачный запуск, они все равно будут знать на какой орбите находится объект

ЦитироватьА бывают вообще спутники стелс???

ЦитироватьТор пишет:
 Но! Если бы я был последовательным конспирологом, то логичнее было бы о запуске вообще не сообщать  :D  . Однако не уверен, что в Штатах такое возможно - не сообщить о запуске  :|  . Но я не конспиролог - поэтому просто неудачный запуск, увы.

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет: 
Россия так отслеживает, что все ждали НОРАД, чтобы узнать, что случилось с "Метеором"...

Цитироватьtestest пишет:

ЦитироватьKotofan пишет:

Цитироватьjavax пишет:
они все равно будут знать на какой орбите находится объект

А если он стелс?

стелс-солнечные батареи?

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:
Надо взять на вооружение... "Фобос-Грунт" не сгорел, а "включил стелс" отправился налаживать контакты с марсианами

ЦитироватьMikhail-G пишет:

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:
Россия так отслеживает, что все ждали НОРАД, чтобы узнать, что случилось с "Метеором"...

Кто "все"? Пользователи форума? Так это понятно, учитывая, что только НОРАД публикует данные в открытом доступе

ЦитироватьMikhail-G пишет:
Так это понятно, учитывая, что только НОРАД публикует данные в открытом доступе

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

ЦитироватьMikhail-G пишет:
Так это понятно, учитывая, что только НОРАД публикует данные в открытом доступе

Где?

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:

ЦитироватьMikhail-G пишет:

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:
Россия так отслеживает, что все ждали НОРАД, чтобы узнать, что случилось с "Метеором"...

Кто "все"? Пользователи форума? Так это понятно, учитывая, что только НОРАД публикует данные в открытом доступе

В новостях спустя сутки писали, что ответственные службы "ищут спутник всеми доступными средствами" или как-то так.

ЦитироватьMikhail-G пишет:
space-track.org

ЦитироватьPIN пишет: 
На space-track публикуется ничтожная часть каталога USSTRATCOM. И даже партнерам JSpOC в сообщениях о коллизиях не всегда идентифицируется объект второй.

ЦитироватьKotofan пишет:
Если, как говорят, что-то может быть на орбите 1000 км, при этом штаты заявили, что спутник потерян, можно ли на эту орбиту союз с парой космонавтов, чтоб посмотреть на секретное что-то? Возможен ли запуск корабля союз на такую орбиту?

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
В защиту наших военных хочу сказать, что слух, что "Фрегат" в декабре ушел вниз, появился почти сразу. МО, похоже, отслеживало запуск, и знало его результаты. То, что что информация долго доходила до Роскосмоса, из которого уже попала в сми - это проблема взаимодействия.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67516.jpg)  Jonathan McDowell‏Подлинная учетная запись @planet4589 (https://twitter.com/planet4589)
I see a lot of people suggesting that the loss of Zuma is a front, a cover to hide a successful insertion in a secret orbit or some other scam. This is JUST NOT PLAUSIBLE for many reasons. I am confident other experts on the subject will agree with me.
  20:32 - 8 янв. 2018 г.  

Цитироватьmk.ru (http://www.mk.ru/science/2018/01/09/eksperty-nazvali-vozmozhnye-prichiny-i-posledstviya-avarii-sekretnogo-sputnika-spacex.html) Эксперты назвали возможные причины и последствия аварии секретного спутника SpaceX
Предполагается, что американский космический аппарат упал в океан
                                          
Недавний запуск ракеты-носителя Falcon 9 с американским секретным спутником Zuma на борту мог завершиться неудачей из-за недостаточно проработанного взаимодействия между компаниями и Northrop Grumman. Такую версию высказал Александр Железняков из Российской академии космонавтики.
                             
             (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/231322.jpg)                                                                     
Фото: Pushkr.
  
Ранее стало известно (http://www.mk.ru/science/2018/01/09/spacex-ne-smogla-vyvesti-na-orbitu-amerikanskiy-sekretnyy-sputnik.html), что в воскресенье компания Илона Маска SpaceX произвела попытку запустить на орбиту секретный спутник правительства США под кодовым обозначением Zuma. Тем не менее, запуск завершился неудачей — вскоре после запуска связь со спутником была потеряна, а сам он, как предполагается, упал в океан и разбился. Министерство обороны США официально признало спутник потерянным. Информация о предназначении Zuma и о том, по заказу какого ведомства он был создан, является засекреченной.
Расследование причин аварии пока что ведётся, однако некоторые российские эксперты, основываясь на имеющейся информации, высказали свои версии произошедшего. По мнению Железнякова, на которого ссылается РИА Новости (http://ria.ru/space/20180109/1512279679.html), предположил, что между компанией SpaceX, построившей ракету носитель, и организацией Northrop Grumman,создавшей спутник, пока что не было установлено достаточно тесного сотрудничества, что и могло привести к аварии.
Другой специалист, ведущий научный сотрудник Института космических исследований РАН Натан Эйсмонт, в эфире радио Sputnik высказал предположение, что причиной аварии могли быть ошибки в работе системы управления или двигателя ракеты Falcon 9, из-за которых космический аппарат не удалось вывести на заданную орбиту.
Эксперты сошлись во мнении, что неудачный запуск скажется на работе SpaceX: Эйсмонт отметил, что авария негативно повлияет на имидж компании, а Железняков — что она может стать причиной очередного переноса запуска сверхтяжелой ракеты Falcon Heavy, запланированного на январь.
Ранее спикер SpaceX Джеймс Глисон заверил, что запуск Falcon 9 прошел в штатном режиме, однако заявил, что в компании подобные миссии не комментируют.

ЦитироватьDid SpaceX's secret Zuma mission actually fail?
 Conflicting reports say the satellite fell out of the sky
 By Loren Grush (https://www.theverge.com/users/lorengrush)@lorengrush (https://www.twitter.com/lorengrush) Jan 9, 2018, 12:34am EST
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/135188.jpg) SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket, carrying the Zuma satellite into orbit. Image: SpaceX

Late Sunday night, SpaceX appeared to successfully launch a classified satellite named Zuma for some unknown government agency — but it's possible the mysterious spacecraft may have been lost once in space. Rumors started circulating on Monday that the satellite malfunctioned when it reached orbit, and both the Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-satellite-believed-lost-after-spacex-mission-fails-1515462479) and Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-09/spacex-launched-satellite-isn-t-seen-in-orbit-pentagon-says?utm_content=tech&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-tech) have reported that Zuma actually fell back to Earth and burned up in the planet's atmosphere. So what really happened to the satellite? No one is speaking up on the record, but it seems clear that something went wrong.
Because of the secretive nature of the mission, SpaceX did not show the entire Zuma mission during its livestream. Typically for its commercial flights, the company will show the launch all the way through to the payload's deployment into orbit. However, the Zuma webcast did not broadcast the separation of the nose cone, which surrounds the satellite during launch, nor did it show the satellite being deployed. SpaceX has censored its livestreams like this before with other classified government payloads that the company has launched. But usually SpaceX or the government agency its working with will confirm a successful mission afterward. So doubts started circulating late Sunday night when neither SpaceX nor Northrop Grumman — the manufacturer of the Zuma satellite — confirmed if the launch was successful.
 
No one is speaking up on the record, but it seems clear that something went wrong
 

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Now Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal report that lawmakers and government officials have been briefed on Zuma's demise. However both publications offer unclear information fr om their sources about what happened. One Bloomberg source says that the upper stage of the Falcon 9 failed, while both WSJ and Bloomberg claim the spacecraft did not separate from the rocket.
When reached for comment, SpaceX said that the Falcon 9 rocket, which carried Zuma to orbit, performed as it was supposed to. "We do not comment on missions of this nature; but as of right now reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally," a SpaceX spokesperson told The Verge. A lot of information is packed in that statement. SpaceX is essentially saying that the Falcon 9 pulled off all the tasks it's supposed to perform during a mission. That typically includes launch, the separation of the rocket's two stages, and deployment of the satellite into its intended orbit. And as viewers saw Sunday night, the Falcon 9's first stage pulled off another successful landing after launch (https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/15/16649440/spacex-falcon-9-launch-zuma-mission-us-government-live-stream) — indicating that the rocket was in full working order.
However, SpaceX's statement seems to directly contradict what the Wall Street Journal is reporting. In its report, WSJ says that the Zuma satellite fell back to Earth because it didn't separate from the upper part of the rocket. But if the rocket performed normally, as SpaceX said it did, then that would mean the spacecraft should have separated from the Falcon 9. And the rocket definitely should have got the satellite to its intended orbit.
 

Цитировать  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/68302.jpg)   Jonathan McDowell  ✔  @planet4589  (https://twitter.com/planet4589)  
Space-Track has cataloged the Zuma payload as USA 280, international designation 2018-001A. Catalog number 43098.
No orbit details given. No reentry date given, but for a secret payload it might not be. Implication is Space-Track thinks it completed at least one orbit
  4:45 AM - Jan 9, 2018 (https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/950559247959494657)

Further complicating matters is that an object that was most likely the satellite was seen in orbit by the US Strategic Command after the SpaceX launch. Strategic Command's Joint Space Operations Center tracks all artificial objects orbiting Earth using an array of ground-based radars and telescopes known as the Space Surveillance Network, and maintains an active catalogue of these satellites. Following SpaceX's launch, a new entry was made in the catalogue on Space-Track.org (http://space-track.org) for a US satellite designated USA 280. That likely means someone within Strategic Command added Zuma to the catalogue after the satellite completed an orbit. However, there's not a lot of further information about the track.
"For secret satellites, they don't give us the orbit path, but they do make a catalogue entry," Jonathan McDowell, an astrophysicist at Harvard and spaceflight expert, tells The Verge. "It gets a catalogue number and a national designation. And the fact that an entry is there should imply that a payload got into orbit and completed at least one orbit around the Earth."
However, Strategic Command is also saying that it has "nothing to add to the satellite catalog at this time," according to Navy Captain Brook DeWalt, a spokesperson for the command, who spoke with Bloomberg. That could mean that the center has nothing to add beyond the new satellite entry or that the USA 280 entry was added by mistake. Strategic Command did not immediately return The Verge's request for comment.
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/135194.jpg) SpaceX's Falcon 9 taking off with Zuma on board Image: SpaceX
So what actually happened? No one is saying for certain, but there are a couple scenarios in which the Falcon 9 could have performed as it was supposed to and the spacecraft didn't deploy correctly. Typically, SpaceX uses its own hardware on top of its rocket to send a satellite into orbit, what is known as a payload adapter. It's an apparatus that physically separates the satellite from the upper part of the rocket and sends it into orbit. However, a previous report from Wired (https://www.wired.com/story/spacexs-top-secret-zuma-mission-launches-today/) noted that Northrop Grumman provided its own payload adapter for this mission. And if that payload adapter failed, it would have left the satellite still attached to the upper portion of the rocket. That's certainly a mission failure, but it wouldn't necessarily be the fault of the Falcon 9.
 
"This is a classified mission. We cannot comment on classified missions."
 
Of course, Northrop Grumman won't comment on the launch. "This is a classified mission. We cannot comment on classified missions," Lon Rains, communications director for Northrop, said in a statement to The Verge. But a payload adapter failure would explain a lot: it would mean the spacecraft and the rocket's upper stage made it to orbit still attached, wh ere they were picked up by Strategic Command's tracking. Then the two somehow de-orbited, on accident or maybe even on purpose — it's possible SpaceX used the rocket to send the pair careening toward Earth, since Zuma was not designed to live in orbit with a rocket strapped to its back.
A number of other scenarios are still on the table, too, seeing as how no one is confirming what actually happened on the record and reports from publications contradict one another. For instance, Bloomberg reports that the Falcon 9's upper stage failed, contradicting what SpaceX is saying. So perhaps the satellite was deployed into a lower orbit than expected and got dragged down to Earth. Or maybe the satellite somehow malfunctioned and accidentally maneuvered itself on a path toward the planet. Or the spacecraft is still up there but just unresponsive — a cold box zooming around Earth.
Amateur astronomers might be able to search for Zuma in the weeks ahead. "The amateurs haven't seen it and there's no prospect of seeing it for a few weeks, because it's not in the right sunlight conditions," says McDowell. But they might not find anything if it's not up there.
Until someone speaks on the record, it's hard to know for sure. Meanwhile, signs indicate that SpaceX is pretty pleased with the launch. The company (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/950537911652401152) has been tweeting pictures from the mission, indicating that all went well. Plus, SpaceX rolled out its new Falcon Heavy rocket (https://twitter.com/Luindriel/status/950394168404258817) to its primary launchpad for an upcoming test, which probably wouldn't have happened if there was a major issue with the company's rocket hardware.
But since Zuma is a classified mission, it seems doubtful we'll get a straight answer. It's possible that there's a dead government satellite in orbit right now, but it seems likely it succumbed to Earth's atmosphere over the weekend.

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ЦитироватьAlexander Lukashenko пишет:
А что это летает?

Цитироватьsnek пишет:
Если следующий пуск девятки поплывет на пару месяцев или больше - значит косяк был со стороны спейсикс, если нет - то что-то с ПН.

ЦитироватьAlexander Lukashenko пишет:
А что это летает? (http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=43098)

Цитироватьsnek пишет:
Если следующий пуск девятки поплывет на пару месяцев или больше - значит косяк был со стороны спейсикс, если нет - то что-то с ПН.

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Цитировать7th Guest пишет:
а как вообще мог получится этот суборбитальный заброс в океан?

Цитировать7th Guest пишет:
Господа, а как вообще мог получится этот суборбитальный заброс в океан? Получается, что Falcon не сформировал даже нормальную круговую орбиту?
Я понимаю почему наши спутники пополнили "международную подводную группировку", но там ещё Фрегат должен был развозить по местам и формировать круговые орбиты. Получается, что SpaceX сильно - мягко говоря - лукавит, уж низкую околоземную орбиту ли высокую элептическую он то должен был сформировать перед разделением...

ЦитироватьАниКей пишет:
Тем не менее, запуск завершился неудачей — вскоре после запуска связь со спутником была потеряна, а сам он, как предполагается, упал в океан и разбился.

ЦитироватьThe following statement is from Gwynne Shotwell, President and COO of SpaceX:
 
"For clarity: after review of all data to date, Falcon 9 did everything correctly on Sunday night. If we or others find otherwise based on further review, we will report it immediately. Information published that is contrary to this statement is categorically false. Due to the classified nature of the payload, no further comment is possible.

Цитировать"Since the data reviewed so far indicates that no design, operational or other changes are needed, we do not anticipate any impact on the upcoming launch schedule. Falcon Heavy has been rolled out to launchpad LC-39A for a static fire later this week, to be followed shortly thereafter by its maiden flight. We are also preparing for an F9 launch for SES and the Luxembourg Government from SLC-40 in three weeks."

ЦитироватьСатурн-5 пишет:

ЦитироватьГришель Максим пишет:
Zuma работает на своей орбите, пока не доказано обратное.

Zuma отсутствует на орбите, пока не доказано обратное )

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
товарищи из SpaceX должны иметь телеметрию и видео по времени отделения ПН от второй ступени?

ЦитироватьК.А. пишет:
Для сомневающихся:
На днях прошел репортаж о сильной вспашке в ближнем космосе,

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
SpaceX говорит что у них всё зашибись.

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
И говорит отвалите

Цитировать7th Guest пишет:
Господа, а как вообще мог получится этот суборбитальный заброс в океан? Получается, что Falcon не сформировал даже нормальную круговую орбиту?

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Если он вообще имел место, то так же, как и в других случаях, когда аппарат вообще не отделился, а последняя ступень топится. С ней вместе, как "Волга" с "Канопус-СТ" в свое время. Разве что, тогда был шанс спасти аппарат.

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет: 
Скорее всего, аппарат не отделиля, а вторая ступень Фалькона на втором или третьем витке нырнула в океан, как было предусмотрено программой. Нырнула вместе с пассажиром

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Сообщалось, что Канопус-СТ имел возможность инициировать разделение. Если это утка, то мое утверждение, соответственно, ошибочно.

ЦитироватьAs of Monday night, nearly 24 hours after the launch, uncertainty surrounded both the mission and the fate of the satellite, which some industry officials estimated carried a price tag in the billions of dollars.

ЦитироватьNorthrop Grumman not only was the prime contractor for the satellite, it was also responsible for choosing the launch provider.

ЦитироватьHrono пишет:
Интересно, будет ли какое-то заявление от Northrop Grumman, в конце концов это их аппарат считается потерянным.

ЦитироватьК.А. пишет:

ЦитироватьСатурн-5 пишет:

ЦитироватьГришель Максим пишет:
Zuma работает на своей орбите, пока не доказано обратное.

Zuma отсутствует на орбите, пока не доказано обратное )

Все очень просто, Zuma после выхода на орбиту сделал гипер скачек в Магелановы облака или куда еще там.

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Northrop Grumman not only was the prime contractor for the satellite, it was also responsible for choosing the launch provider.

Цитировать"Two anonymous government officials familiar with the classified ZUMA mission, launched by SpaceX on Jan 7, declare the payload a "total loss" after falling into the Atlantic Ocean. The satellite, which reportedly cost upwards of $1 billion or more, is believed to have failed to reach orbit after not separating from the Falcon 9 rocket's second stage. Northrop also reportedly made the payload adaptor for ZUMA, but will not comment on classified missions. SpaceX however says their rocket performed just as it was supposed to, with "data indicating Falcon 9 performed nominally", said a spokesperson with the company. Suggesting anything that may have happened was the fault of Northrop."

ЦитироватьSam Grey пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Northrop Grumman not only was the prime contractor for the satellite, it was also responsible for choosing the launch provider.

The Zuma payload is a restricted payload. It will be launched into Low Earth Orbit.

Цитировать https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/15/top-secret-zuma-payload-puzzles-satellite-trackers/
November 15, 2017
 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/11/)...
Northrop Grumman acknowledged its role in the Zuma mission in a statement, confirming it arranged for the launch with SpaceX on the government's behalf.
"Northrop Grumman is proud to be a part of the Zuma launch," said Lon Rains, communications director for Northrop Grumman's space division. "This event represents a cost effective approach to space access for government missions.
"The U.S. government assigned Northrop Grumman the responsibility of acquiring launch services for this mission," Rains said in a written statement emailed to Spaceflight Now. "We have procured the Falcon 9 launch service from SpaceX."
Northrop Grumman did not say whether it built the Zuma payload, but the defense contractor said it considered cost and risk in its selection of the Falcon 9.
"As a company, Northrop Grumman realizes that this is monumental responsibility and have taken great care to ensure the most affordable and lowest risk scenario for Zuma," the statement said.
"The Zuma payload is a restricted payload," Rains said. "It will be launched into Low Earth Orbit."
Officials have not divulged which U.S. government agency will be the primary user of the payload, or whether it's a military or civilian group. Zuma could be a surveillance mission, a spy satellite, an experimental tech demo, or something else.
...

Цитировать http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-zuma-classified-satellite-launch-video-2017-11
Nov. 17, 2017
....
Lon Rains, the communications director for Northrop Grumman's space systems division, sent Business Insider this statement:
"Northrop Grumman is proud to be a part of the Zuma launch. This event represents a cost effective approach to space access for government missions. The U.S. Government assigned Northrop Grumman the responsibility of acquiring launch services for this mission. We have procured the Falcon 9 launch service from SpaceX.
"As a company, Northrop Grumman realizes this is a monumental responsibility and we have taken great care to ensure the most affordable and lowest risk scenario for Zuma.
"The Zuma payload is a restricted payload. It will be launched into Low Earth Orbit."
...

Цитироватьopinion пишет:
А что имеет в виду Марко, когда пишет, что спутник не будет виден в северном полушарии неделю или больше?

ЦитироватьBut afterward, the U.S. Strategic Command said it wasn't tracking any new satellites, an indication that the satellite somehow failed to deploy properly.

ЦитироватьAlso, FWIW, there was a 2007 CBO discussion of notional "space radar satellites" in 1,000 km x 53 deg orbits.  It was titled "Alternatives for Military Space Radar".  The discussion described a constellation of such satellites.
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/76xx/doc7691/01-03-spaceradar.pdf

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
товарищи из SpaceX должны иметь телеметрию и видео по времени отделения ПН от второй ступени?

ЦитироватьАндрей Иванов пишет:
Это просто праздник какой-то...
 https://youtu.be/6FZEl3RoOY8

Цитироватьuncle_jew пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
товарищи из SpaceX должны иметь телеметрию и видео по времени отделения ПН от второй ступени?

Возможно, что отделение было ответственностью ПН. Было бы вполне логично, в целях секретности - чтобы никто не знал, где именно ПН отделится.

ЦитироватьОтделить где-нибудь над южным океаном (где нет радаров) и сразу увести на другую орбиту.

ЦитироватьОлег пишет:
А чей номер 43098 ?

Цитироватьuncle_jew пишет:
Возможно, что отделение было ответственностью ПН. Было бы вполне логично, в целях секретности - чтобы никто не знал, где именно ПН отделится.

ЦитироватьWhat happened? —  The Zuma satellite appears lost—here's what we know so far Both sides seem to be playing the blame game now.  
 Eric Berger (https://arstechnica.com/author/ericberger/) - 1/9/2018, 3:44 PM
 
On Sunday night, SpaceX launched a classified payload known only as "Zuma" for the US government. But once in space, something went wrong. Here's what we know so far.

What is Zuma?
It was a government satellite or spacecraft built by Northrop Grumman, which contracted with SpaceX to launch it into low-Earth orbit. By various accounts, this was a hugely valuable asset, potentially worth a billion dollars or more. (SpaceX founder Elon Musk reportedly told some of his employees it was the most important thing the company had ever launched). There has also been a huge amount of secrecy around the launch, even more so than with typical national security payloads, to the point that the government agency paying for and using it have not been disclosed.

 What happened?
The Zuma launch appeared nominal on Sunday night, from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. The Falcon 9 rocket's first stage returned to a land-based landing site on schedule. However, on Monday, as initially reported (https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/the-zuma-satellite-launched-by-spacex-may-be-lost-sources-tell-ars/) by Ars and then other publications (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spy-satellite-believed-lost-after-spacex-mission-fails-1515462479), there was a problem with the Zuma spacecraft. Our initial, unconfirmed information suggests that Zuma never fully separated from the second stage of the Falcon 9 rocket and that it burned up during the reentry to Earth's atmosphere.

 Wait, isn't Zuma in the satellite catalog?
It is (https://www.space-track.org/#/catalog), listed under "USA 280," without any pertinent details. However, as noted (https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/950574866020884480) by satellite expert Jonathan McDowell, this does not necessarily mean the object is still in orbit or that it separated from the upper stage of the Falcon 9 rocket. Rather, the upper stage was intended to make at least one orbit before falling back to Earth as planned. It is possible that Zuma never separated from the upper stage, made 1.5 orbits or so and "earned" a catalog entry, and then fell back to Earth with the second stage.

 But we don't know for sure?
No, we don't. SpaceX has only said that its rocket performed nominally throughout the launch. Northrop Grumman declined to comment. The US military has offered no substantial information. However according to sources familiar with congressional briefings, the mission did indeed fail. This information may not be fully publicly confirmed until some future congressional hearing.

 Is SpaceX to blame, then?
Perhaps not. "As of right now reviews of the data indicate Falcon 9 performed nominally," a company spokesperson told Ars. It is important to note that the payload adapter, which connected the Zuma payload and its fairing to the rest of the rocket, was supplied by Northrop Grumman, rather than by SpaceX. If there was some kind of separation problem, the fault may not lie with SpaceX, but rather Northrop Grumman.

So we're playing a blame game?
It seems so. According to a source familiar with discussions on Capitol Hill, both SpaceX and Northrop Grumman are blaming each other for the failure. At this point, the government appears to not have determined who is at fault, but clearly this will be a consequence-filled decision for one or both of these companies in the business of providing the government with launch and satellite services.

What is at stake?
For taxpayers, there's the loss of an asset worth a billion dollars or more.

Цитироватьboth SpaceX and Northrop Grumman are blaming each other for the failure

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Где-то мне попадалось, что военные настояли на каком-то своем кастомном узле отстыковки ПН. Ну он и насвинячил...

Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:

ЦитироватьОлег пишет:
А чей номер 43098 ?

Вчера вечером был за объектом USA 280, скриншот здесь (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic16228/message1727856/#message1727856) . Проверял сейчас в 23:30 ДМВ в каталоге НОРАД - на месте...

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
F

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Где-то мне попадалось, что военные настояли на каком-то своем кастомном узле отстыковки ПН. Ну он и насвинячил...

А вариант что Zuma это не единая цельная ПН, а группа из нескольких спутников типа как Иридиум или как недавний китайский запуск с каким-нибудь хитрым адаптером для разделения, рассматривается?

Цитироватьpkl пишет:
Ракета-носитель может быть или дешёвой, или надёжной. Но вместе эти условия не сочетаются.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет: И чтоб его никто не искал сказали что он утопился. 

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
F

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Где-то мне попадалось, что военные настояли на каком-то своем кастомном узле отстыковки ПН. Ну он и насвинячил...

А вариант что Zuma это не единая цельная ПН, а группа из нескольких спутников типа как Иридиум или как недавний китайский запуск с каким-нибудь хитрым адаптером для разделения, рассматривается?

ЦитироватьI'm not a fan of "there's info in L2" posts but if ever a thread needed such a post, it's this one.

ЦитироватьKotofan пишет:

Цитироватьopinion пишет:
А что имеет в виду Марко, когда пишет, что спутник не будет виден в северном полушарии неделю или больше?

Для астрономов любителей не виден, витки днем или в тени земли будут.

ЦитироватьKotofan пишет: 
Для астрономов любителей не виден, витки днем или в тени земли будут.

ЦитироватьTuesday, 9 January 2018

Fuel dump of Zuma's Falcon 9 Upper Stage observed by a Dutch pilot over east Africa (and rumours that Zuma failed)

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/124295.jpg) (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tDzFT-fOvSU/WlSn_mc0z7I/AAAAAAAAE0w/pqvAh4CY2T0b5OFCyIB0yjbhJI7thvQwwCLcBGAs/s1600/Sudan_rocket1.jpg)
image (c) Peter Horstink, used with permission
click image to enlarge

The spectacular image above was taken by Peter Horstink, the Dutch pilot of a Boeing 747-400 freighter aircraft (Martinair Holland flight MPH8371 fr om Amsterdam to Johannesburg), around 3:15-3:20 UT on January 8. The aircraft was flying at 35000 feet just north of Khartoum, Sudan, at that moment, which can be seen in the foreground (the yellow lights). The image is the first one out of four images taken by Horstink.

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The spectacular green-blue "spiral" on the image is, given time and location and character, almost certainly the Falcon 9 Upper Stage fr om the launch of the classified Zuma satellite that day (see my earlier post here (https://sattrackcam.blogspot.nl/2018/01/a-new-launch-attempt-for-zuma.html)), depressurizing and venting fuel at the end of its de-orbit burn. Some 15-25 minutes later, it would re-enter in its designated re-entry zone in the southern Indian Ocean (see map below).

Horstink described his observation as follows (translated from his Dutch e-mail report):

Цитировать"It started with a greenish light in the top of my front window. At first I thought it was a reflection from some lightsource behind me, but it turned out not to be. At about 218 UTC [this later turned out to be a mistake and must read 3:18 UTC: the aircraft passed Khartoum near 3:25 UTC - ML] with a  very clear sky and with Khartoum in our sight, a point of light (like a star but somewhat bigger) moved from above us to South of us. It moved slower than a usual satellite but clearly did move. I estimate we saw it for 2-3 minutes. The waning moon crescent at that time was almost right above us. The object was surrounded by a greenish glow in the shape of spiral arms, like a spiral galaxy. Two of them, which didn't seem to move much. The total  size of the phenomena was about three times the diameter of the moon."

The map below gives my estimated trajectory for the Falcon 9 Upper Stage, with apogee at ~900 km. It fits the area of the sighting, the launch hazard zone direction and the de-orbit zone position (from Maritime Broadcast Warnings) in the Indian Ocean. The Falcon 9 Upper Stage should have re-entered into the atmosphere between 3:30-3:45 UT, about 30 minutes after the  window from the Maritime Broadcast Warning opened at 3:00 UT.

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/124773.jpg) (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WM2dVUKIbss/WlSrfcff08I/AAAAAAAAE08/-ygXj7KH6JozAMooDGOTLOz-1eiviGmrgCLcBGAs/s1600/NROL_47_Falcon9_trajectenkaart_NEW_150dpi.jpg)
click map to enlarge

The sighting points to a somewhat higher orbital altitude for Zuma than I had anticipated before the launch: with hindsight, I had too much of an idée-fixe that the orbital altitude would be similar to that of USA 276. The Falcon 9 sighting over East Africa suggests an altitude over double as high, in the order of 900-1000 km rather than my original 400 km estimate.

The sighting does confirm the 50-degree orbital inclination of the orbit. A new estimated elset based on this revision of the orbital altitude is here (http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Jan-2018/0068.html).

The map below shows the (very) approximate position of the aircraft at the time of Peter Horstink's observation relative to the Falcon 9 trajectory (times in UT, January 8th 2018 ). The aircraft was flying on a heading of 170 degrees. The Falcon 9 Upper Stage was coming down at an altitude in the range of 200-400 km at that time. Approximate positions for the Falcon 9 Upper Stage are indicated in 2-minute intervals:
 

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/124233.jpg) (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-elGiU7xaxpY/WlStxGlmMiI/AAAAAAAAE1M/A29OdVYjkIYsFe6xv2daFK4JzhSUy0ZbACLcBGAs/s1600/NROL_47_Falcon9_trajectenkaart_150dpi_Africadetail_anot.jpg)
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Horstink made the image above and below plus a few more with a handheld camera, from the cockpit of the aircraft.
 

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/124779.jpg) (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ytem9tNZnf0/WlS7HyP-IkI/AAAAAAAAE1c/QRNfQb5pNfAtkQ9N1nC3dqCjr7ZocHbPgCLcBGAs/s1600/Sudan_rocket4_sml.jpg)
image (c) Peter Horstink, used with permission
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Horstink's observation is not the only observation. Very similar photographs showing a spiral in the sky have been coming from the ground in Sudan, e.g. in this tweet:

Цитировать(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/172688.jpg) (https://twitter.com/Samcornwell/status/950499540666331136/photo/1)

 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186268.jpg) Sam Cornwell @Samcornwell  (https://twitter.com/Samcornwell)

Seen at 515 over Sudan. Timeline matches up for Zuma. (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/125513.png)(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/125535.png)(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/125283.png) Looks very unnorminal

 01:48 - 9 jan. 2018 (https://twitter.com/Samcornwell/status/950499540666331136) · Scotland, United Kingdom (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A0af014accd6f6e99)

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/124545.jpg) (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wvoADh9Lulw/WlS_mzfVGqI/AAAAAAAAE1o/n9CLmhcBuLE2UrfeWj3FlUQJXc6cXRTHwCLcBGAs/s1600/Sudan_grond_image_tweet_Sam_Cornell.jpg)
image from the ground, from Sudan (author unknown)

On rumours that Zuma failed

The sightings from Sudan near 3:15-3:20 UT are significant, as in the late afternoon of the 8th, rumours appeared on Twitter of a Zuma launch failure. These rumours then were picked up by some news outlets, e.g. here (http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2018/01/08/spacexs-zuma-launch-produced-eye-catching-light-show/1014500001/) and here (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/08/highly-classified-us-spy-satellite-appears-to-be-a-total-loss-after-spacex-launch.html).

I have no idea about the veracity of these rumours, and so far SpaceX has said the mission was "nominal" (indicating no problems with the Falcon 9), while Northrop-Grumman and the US military haven't given comments (they never do about classified mission status). They could very well just be rumours, perhaps born out of a misunderstanding of events in the launch seen from the ground by lay observers.

For the moment, unless the US Government comes with some statement, I think it is wise we should treat it as "just rumours", and not necessarily true.

The sighting of the Falcon 9 Upper stage venting 2 hours 15 minutes (1.5 orbit) after launch, bear significantly on the discussion, as it seems to confirm the remarks by SpaceX that the mission was nominal. Of course, for SpaceX the mission ends at orbit insertion.

At any rate, it shows that at least the Upper stage achieved orbit (so it was definitely not a launch failure wh ere the rocket failed to achieve orbit), and it makes sense that the payload then did as well.

So if something went wrong, if at all (a big "if" - I am skeptical), then there are three options left:

(1)  Zuma was ins erted in to orbit, but it is in the wrong orbit (too high, too low); 

(2)  Zuma was ins erted in to orbit, but is "dead", i.e. non-responsive;

(3)  Zuma achieved orbit with the Upper Stage, but failed to detach from the Upper Stage, and next de-orbitted with the Upper Stage near 3:30-3:45 UT.

JSpOC (http://www.space-track.org/) ("NORAD" ) did enter an object from this launch into its master catalogue on January 9th, as object nr. 43098, COSPAR 2018-001A. They designated it "PAYLOAD". As usual for classified missions, they do not give details on the orbit.

This suggests something achieved orbit long enough (i.e. over more than one orbit) to be detected and added to the catalogue.

While this does not necessarily mean the object is still in orbit (and it could in theory reference the Falcon 9 Upper Stage, with the "PAYLOAD" designation then in error), it does fuel my skepticism towards the truth of the rumours.

If it is on-orbit but did fail, the situation becomes reminiscent of the USA 193 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-193) saga - an experimental satellite launched in December 2006 that failed after orbit insertion, and a year later was shot out of the sky with an SM3 missile, which has become infamous as "Operation Burnt Frost (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost)".

With regard to the observed fuel dump/depressurization: this is normal for most launches and does not necessarily indicate something's wrong.

Rocket stages always carry excess fuel, as you don't want the engine to cut out prematurely by running out of fuel. So it always has a sufficient fuel margin. Once its work is done, this excess fuel is often vented, also known as "depressurization".

Depressurization and fuel venting avoids the risk of the rocket stage blowing up, for example as a result of static electricity building up in the rocket stage. You do not want your rocket stage to blow up, as it creates an uncontrolable swarm of debris and includes the risk that particles are ejected into orbits wh ere they do not decay quickly,  adding to the space debris risk.

The spiral pattern results when the rocket stage is spinning, perhaps as result of the fuel vent.

At the moment, Zuma is not visible from the Northern hemisphere because all passes are in daylight or earth shadow. This will change 1-2 weeks from now, depending on the exact orbital altitude. The sighting from Sudan does confirm the orbital plane the object should be in (that is: unless it did a manoeuvre into another orbital plane after separation from the Falcon - but I doubt that). So we have to wait now untill a new object is observed in this orbital plane.

The hunt is on!


UPDATE: some news sources (https://www.fin24.com/Tech/Companies/the-zuma-satellite-is-now-missing-20180109) are now claiming sources within the US military and US Government confirm the failure, saying the second stage of the Falcon 9 "failed" and stage and satellite crashed into sea.

This does not tally with the observations over Sudan, which show the Upper Stage did reach orbit. So my skepticism remains. If there is some truth to it nevertheless, it could point to option (3) above and subsequent misinterpretation in the press.


Ackowledgement: I thank Peter Horstink for his report, for providing additional information on request, and for the permission to feature his images on this blog. I thank Govert Schilling for bringing me into contact with Peter Horstink. The photographs with this post are (c) Peter Horstink.

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Posted by  SatTrackCam Leiden  (https://www.blogger.com/profile/08711764306071043709) at 1/09/2018 03:03:00 pm (https://sattrackcam.blogspot.ru/2018/01/fuel-dump-of-zumas-falcon-9-upper-stage.html)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/32932.jpg) Scott Tilley‏ @coastal8049 (https://twitter.com/coastal8049) 17 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/950607179207208960)

Let's sit back and wait for the facts to reveal themselves. If it's in orbit we'll find it (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/125479.png)

ЦитироватьJonathan McDowellПодлинная учетная запись @planet4589
I see a lot of people suggesting that the loss of Zuma is a front, a cover to hide a successful insertion in a secret orbit or some other scam. This is JUST NOT PLAUSIBLE for many reasons. I am confident other experts on the subject will agree with me.

20:32 - 8 янв. 2018 г. (https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/950586132995198982)

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

Цитироватьuncle_jew пишет:
Возможно, что отделение было ответственностью ПН. Было бы вполне логично, в целях секретности - чтобы никто не знал, где именно ПН отделится.

Где-то мне попадалось, что военные настояли на каком-то своем кастомном узле отстыковки ПН. Ну он и насвинячил...

ЦитироватьАндрей Суворов пишет:
Так что, если бы было неотделение, либо на телеметрии это было хорошо и однозначно видно, либо ракета вообще бы не смогла нормально развернуться и отработать эти 120 метров в секунду.

Либо спутника никакого и не было под обтекателем.

Либо нам врут.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
За то сам с легкостью делает выводы, высосанные из какого то секретного своего пальца )))

ЦитироватьA highly classified satellite launched by SpaceX (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/spacex.htm) this weekend ended up plummeting into the Indian Ocean, a U.S. official confirmed to ABC News.

ЦитироватьАндрей Суворов пишет:
А вот скажите мне, разве спутник НАСТОЛЬКО МАЛЕНЬКИЙ, что второй ступени было всё равно, делать deorbit burn пустой, или вместе с приделанной к ней полезной нагрузкой? Deorbit burn - это, с 400-км орбиты, ни много, ни мало, 120 метров в секунду. Спутник вряд ли весил всего пару тонн, скорее, ближе к шести. И в ступени посли деорбита осталось ещё столько топлива, столько топлива, что аж из Судана было видно его сброс.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Так как запуск секретный, то SpaceX получал ТМИ только с борта первой ступени, а вот на этапе работы второй ступени, доступ к зарегистрированной ТМИ со второй ступени SpaceX не дали

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет: 1. На месте SpaceX я бы просто отказался от запуска на таких условиях. ))))
2. Во время трансляции комментатор ясно сказал, что подтверждение успешного сброса обтекателя получено, хотя видео этого события они не могут показать из-за секретности пуска.

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
На каких на таких?

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
там тАкИе бабки звенели!

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет: Ну и какие? Процентов на 30 дороже, чем обычный пуск на ГПО? Оно того геморроя не стоит...

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Уточнение океана продолжается  :)

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Так как запуск секретный, то SpaceX получал ТМИ только с борта первой ступени, а вот на этапе работы второй ступени, доступ к зарегистрированной ТМИ со второй ступени SpaceX не дали

1. На месте SpaceX я бы просто отказался от запуска на таких условиях. ))))
2. Во время трансляции комментатор ясно сказал, что подтверждение успешного сброса обтекателя получено, хотя видео этого события они не могут показать из-за секретности пуска.

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет: 
На условиях непредоставления телеметрии и прочей информации со второй ступени. Любой технарь поймет что так работать нельзя - невозможно что-то гарантировать. 

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Придется ему со своим шаромыжничеством тихо свалить в сторонку и сшибать по маленькой на гражданских контрактах.

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Придется ему со своим шаромыжничеством тихо свалить в сторонку и сшибать по маленькой на гражданских контрактах.

А вот это, лапуль,

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Уточнение океана продолжается  :)  

ЦитироватьA highly classified satellite launched by SpaceX (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/spacex.htm) this weekend ended up plummeting into the Indian Ocean, a U.S. official confirmed to ABC News.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Уточнение океана продолжается  :)  

Перепутали Канаверал с Ванденбергом

ЦитироватьБольшой-большой секрет
Ракета Falcon 9 компании SpaceX не смогла (https://ria.ru/space/20180109/1512279679.html) вывести на орбиту секретный американский спутник Zuma. По предварительным данным, он упал в море.


(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/133840.jpg)

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Уточнение океана продолжается  :)  

Перепутали Канаверал с Ванденбергом

Правильнее площадки 39A и 40

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
А может такой вариант:
Так как запуск секретный, то SpaceX получал ТМИ только с борта первой ступени, а вот на этапе работы второй ступени, доступ к зарегистрированной ТМИ со второй ступени SpaceX не дали ))

Соответственно, SpaceX заявляет, что по имеющейся у них информации все системы Фалькон-9 отработали штатно. Про то, что у них имеется информация только о ТМИ первой ступени, а по второй не имеетсяSpaceX сказать не могут, т.к. это секрет )) Т.е. как бы SpaceX и не врут.

Цитироватьpkl пишет:
Ракета-носитель может быть или дешёвой, или надёжной. Но вместе эти условия не сочетаются.

Цитироватьtestest пишет: Вероятность, что виновата "дешевая и плохая" часть ракеты SpaceX, крайне мала

Цитироватьtestest пишет:  Процедура допуска компании к запуску засекреченных ПН нужна в т.ч. и для того, чтобы военные были уверены, что данные телеметрии с РН никуда не уплывут. 

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

Тем не менее, никто не отрицает общеизвестного факта отсутствия в Спейсекс культуры производства и запуска.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

Тем не менее, никто не отрицает общеизвестного факта отсутствия в Спейсекс культуры производства и запуска.

Адаптер производства NG, т.е. СпейсХ выполнила пожелание заказчика. Весь спрос с Нортроп Грумман  :)

Цитироватьtestest пишет: 
Вероятность, что виновата "дешевая и плохая" часть ракеты SpaceX, крайне мала - они сами это отрицают, не проводят расследование причин, не откладывают миссию SES (30 января). Так что, по всей видимости, спутник угробил "дорогой и надежный" переходной адаптер от Нортроп.

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
данные телеметрии с РН никуда не уплывут

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

 Как вы не можете понять, что запуск это КОМАНДНАЯ работа. Успех тут может быть только ОДИН и на всех. Так же как и неудача.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

Liss выше единственный корректно обозначил границы известного.
Но можно, конечно, еще страниц 100 фантазий по Фрейду, от "культуры производства" до "этой секретной ТМИ"

ЦитироватьДумаю, так и останется. В графе "сход с орбиты" останется пустота, и гадай теперь, была ли Zuma, не было ли, и куда она делась. И не прикрытие ли весь этот кипиш с участием WSJ и прочих?

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Так как запуск секретный, то SpaceX получал ТМИ только с борта первой ступени, а вот на этапе работы второй ступени, доступ к зарегистрированной ТМИ со второй ступени SpaceX не дали ))

ЦитироватьNot пишет: 
Видите ли, в ВПК (во всяком случае американском) весьма дорожат своей репутацией, и так топорно маскировать какие либо действия никто не будет. Если конечно совсем не прижало, но на то пока не похоже.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Видите ли, в ВПК (во всяком случае американском) весьма дорожат своей репутацией, и так топорно маскировать какие либо действия никто не будет. Если конечно совсем не прижало, но на то пока не похоже.

А что там с репутацией? СпейсИкс официально и фактически не виновата, а всё остальное засекречено.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

 Как вы не можете понять, что запуск это КОМАНДНАЯ работа. Успех тут может быть только ОДИН и на всех. Так же как и неудача.

Полностью согласен, но почему сразу кивок в сторону СпейсХ, если спутник, адаптер и работа с ПН - ответственность НГ? Вспомните потерю Канопус-СТ: там тоже адаптер был омского производства.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Как вы не можете понять, что запуск это КОМАНДНАЯ работа. Успех тут может быть только ОДИН и на всех. Так же как и неудача.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
По данной нештатной ситуации с Зумой. Вот для начала вопросы:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Кивок сразу в сторону SpaceX потому что интеграционная цепочка начинается с РН.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Мое мнение, что эту команду формирует и выдает СУ Фалькон-9 в соответствии со своей траекторной информацией.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Перепутали Канаверал с Ванденбергом

Правильнее площадки 39A и 40

Как вариант

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьtestest пишет: Процедура допуска компании к запуску засекреченных ПН нужна в т.ч. и для того, чтобы военные были уверены, что данные телеметрии с РН никуда не уплывут.

Ну тогда и видео на этапе полета второй ступени могли показать, а не останавливать трансляцию.
Наоборот, ограничение доступа увеличивает вероятность, что секретные данные по ТМИ никуда не уплывут.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Для начала надо знать, был ли там КА для орбитального полета вообще.

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Вот я и говорю, надо еще посмотреть, кто там шуровал шаловливыми ручонками вокруг этого адаптера. Адаптер адаптером, а какая там была проводка, какие были импедансы и как это все проверяли - вопрос открытый.

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:
Надо похитить кого-то значимого из NG и пытать. Другого способа получить ответ я не вижу.

Цитироватьtestest пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Вот я и говорю, надо еще посмотреть, кто там шуровал шаловливыми ручонками вокруг этого адаптера. Адаптер адаптером, а какая там была проводка, какие были импедансы и как это все проверяли - вопрос открытый.

Если подвел адаптер разработки NG - это точно не NG виновата, а SpaceX накосячила
...
Шизик

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Для начала надо знать, был ли там КА для орбитального полета вообще.

Для суборбитальных и атмосферных с другого побережья пускают, по причине наличия НИПов по пути.

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет: А с другой стороны в 80-х СССР

ЦитироватьАниКей пишет: 
Американская ракета нанесла удар по российской секте (https://ria.ru/analytics/20180110/1512324721.html)

ЦитироватьVlad_hm пишет:
Мне кажется, у Not -а какой-то пунктик

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:
Надо похитить кого-то значимого из NG и пытать. Другого способа получить ответ я не вижу.

Думаешь оттуда проще, чем из Пентагона?

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

ЦитироватьАниКей пишет:
 Американская ракета нанесла удар по российской секте (https://ria.ru/analytics/20180110/1512324721.html)

Мураховский

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
https://cdn5.img.ria.ru/images/151232/64/1512326420.jpg подписал "Запуск Флакона со спутником "Зума"".

ЦитироватьMikhail-G пишет:

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ЦитироватьАниКей пишет:
 Американская ракета нанесла удар по российской секте (https://ria.ru/analytics/20180110/1512324721.html)

Мураховский

Тут не Мураховский, а Мараховский

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

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ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Для начала надо знать, был ли там КА для орбитального полета вообще.

Для суборбитальных и атмосферных с другого побережья пускают, по причине наличия НИПов по пути.

А с другой стороны в 80-х СССР приводнял в Индийском океане, Спрашивается какие НИП именно там.... 
Для IXV тут кажется показывали мобильный НИП.

А причем тут СССР?

ЦитироватьAccording to source documentation, Zuma's launch contract – which did not specify a launch date – was established with SpaceX in 2015.

ЦитироватьWhile the precise cost of the launch contract has not been divulged, it is known that the Zuma payload was not processed in any of SpaceX's payload processing facilities.

ЦитироватьBecause of that, as well as the contract's initiation in 2015, it is likely that this mission falls within the $60 million (USD) range for a brand new Falcon 9, with very few – if any – of SpaceX's add-on options needed for payload processing.

ЦитироватьWhile the contract was signed in 2015, a launch date was not determined until late-April 2017 when the government customer notified Northrop Grumman of the launch period for Zuma of 1-30 November 2017.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Экс перд , блин, в его каноническом виде

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Нет никаких проблем с НИПами сейчас.

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет: 
А с другой стороны в 80-х СССР приводнял в Индийском океане, Спрашивается какие НИП именно там....

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Есть проблемы, и практически все атмосферные пуски, в частности гиперзвуковые проводятся над континентальной территорией США, так же как например в России эксплуатируется Капустин Яр.

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Есть проблемы, и практически все атмосферные пуски, в частности гиперзвуковые проводятся над континентальной территорией США, так же как например в России эксплуатируется Капустин Яр.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Есть проблемы, и практически все атмосферные пуски, в частности гиперзвуковые проводятся над континентальной территорией США, так же как например в России эксплуатируется Капустин Яр.

ахха
 http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a27384/us-australia-hypersonic-missile-test/
 https://www.nasa.gov/topics/aeronautics/features/hifire.html

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ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Вот я и говорю, надо еще посмотреть, кто там шуровал шаловливыми ручонками вокруг этого адаптера. Адаптер адаптером, а какая там была проводка, какие были импедансы и как это все проверяли - вопрос открытый.

Если подвел адаптер разработки NG - это точно не NG виновата, а SpaceX накосячила с обслуживанием. Если спутник сдох через год после выведения - это не производитель облажался, а потому что кто-то из SpaceX его жирными руками лапал где не надо. Если спутник сломался при транспортировке от производителя - это потому что SpaceX по фотографии сглазила.

Шизик.

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ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Кивок сразу в сторону SpaceX потому что интеграционная цепочка начинается с РН.

Точнее просто потому что тебе ХОЧЕТСЯ чтоб были виноваты SpaceX Вероятность, что виноваты разработчики ПН - ты просто отказываешься рассматривать:

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет: 

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет: Мое мнение, что эту команду формирует и выдает СУ Фалькон-9 в соответствии со своей траекторной информацией.

Вот так вот сразу - понятия не имея как оно на самом деле... И после этого ты хочешь сказать, что ты объективен?

ЦитироватьВал пишет:
На Реддите муссируется (https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/7p1pqn/zuma_satellite_from_northropgrumman_may_be_dead/) версия о Misty-like спутнике  :)

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
стелс-солнечные батареи?

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Конечно объективен, как всегда.
Допустим команду на отстрел формирует сам адаптер без участия СУ Фалькон-9, так?
И на основании каких критериев он это делает? По таймеру? У него своя навигационная независимая система?

ЦитироватьХВ. пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Неплохое начало года.
Мои поздравления Пентагону и лично Элону Маску.

На войне, как на войне.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Батута и Маска я вообще практически люблю

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:


2. Человек вспомнил, что про орбиту наклонением около 50° и высотой 1000 км когда-то что-то слышал...

ЦитироватьAlso, FWIW, there was a 2007 CBO discussion of notional "space radar satellites" in 1,000 km x 53 deg orbits. It was titled "Alternatives for Military Space Radar". The discussion described a constellation of such satellites.
 http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/76xx/doc7691/01-03-spaceradar.pdf

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ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Конечно объективен, как всегда.
Допустим команду на отстрел формирует сам адаптер без участия СУ Фалькон-9, так?
И на основании каких критериев он это делает? По таймеру? У него своя навигационная независимая система?

А вот рассмотри версию по аналогии с вторым запуском с Восточного. Там в не выходе на нужную орбиту виновато что-то с РН?

Версий можно напридумывать много.

ЦитироватьVlad_hm пишет:
Мне кажется, у Not -а какой-то пунктик уже на SpaceX...

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Кстати, я думаю и в нештатной ситуации с запуском Zuma найдут ошибку, которая была не выявлена из за плохого взаимодействия подрядчиков в лице SpaceX и NG.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет: 
Кстати, я думаю и в нештатной ситуации с запуском Zuma найдут ошибку, которая была не выявлена из за плохого взаимодействия подрядчиков в лице SpaceX и NG.
 Но бОльше достанется конечно тому на чьей стороне была ошибка.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Допустим команду на отстрел формирует сам адаптер без участия СУ Фалькон-9, так?
И на основании каких критериев он это делает? По таймеру? У него своя навигационная независимая система?

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Батута и Маска я вообще практически люблю

Если так, то ты имеешь практическое отношение к космонавтике.  ;)

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Кстати, я думаю и в нештатной ситуации с запуском Zuma найдут ошибку, которая была не выявлена из за плохого взаимодействия подрядчиков в лице SpaceX и NG.

С ПН очень спешили, делали скропостижно, по срочному заказу. Так что может быть и плохое взаимодействие подрядчиков и просто косяк в ПН или адаптере. Вот на косяк в РН - шансов реально меньше - до этого же летали и все работало...

ЦитироватьЧерные перья райских птиц способны поглощать до 99,95% попадающего на них света, выяснили американские ученые.

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:
еще разгоняясь 2-й ступенью. Команда на отделение приходит с Земли. А на Земле решают по телеметрии 2-й ступени.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьА вот рассмотри версию по аналогии с вторым запуском с Восточного. Там в не выходе на нужную орбиту виновато что-то с РН?

Отличный пример.
И действительно РН вроде и не причем.
Однако посмотрим выводы комиссии:

Цитироватьhttps://www.roscosmos.ru/24518/
...
Генеральному директору АО «РКЦ «Прогресс» Александру КИРИЛИНУ
...

Кстати, я думаю и в нештатной ситуации с запуском Zuma найдут ошибку, которая была не выявлена из за плохого взаимодействия подрядчиков в лице SpaceX и NG.
 Но бОльше достанется конечно тому на чьей стороне была ошибка.

ЦитироватьКроме того, должностные лица Госкорпорации «РОСКОСМОС» и головные предприятия-разработчики, отвечающие за создание космического комплекса и его составных частей, не приняли исчерпывающие меры к обеспечению должного контроля и координации работ.

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Допустим команду на отстрел формирует сам адаптер без участия СУ Фалькон-9, так?
И на основании каких критериев он это делает? По таймеру? У него своя навигационная независимая система?

Можно я пофантазирую?  :)  
После сброса обтекателя аппарат устанавливает связь с Землей, еще разгоняясь 2-й ступенью. Команда на отделение приходит с Земли. А на Земле решают по телеметрии 2-й ступени.

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:
После сброса обтекателя аппарат устанавливает связь с Землей

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Остальные, а особенно Прогресс для размазывания вины по всем.

Цитироватьpk13 пишет:
Забавный сон был 2 декабря у спеца SpaceX по Flight Software Алексея Пахунова...

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
А были прецеденты в современной космонавтике когда спутник отделялся от РН/РБ не по команде с носителя, а по команде с земли? Мне это кажется как то мало правдоподобным, но как версия

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:
Вот так не делают никогда.

Цитироватьpk13 пишет:

Цитироватьpk13 пишет:
Забавный сон был 2 декабря у спеца SpaceX по Flight Software Алексея Пахунова...

и там же, кстати, для "тестера всея Руси"  :)  LRV_75 презентация про полетный софт в SpaceX (https://blog.not-a-kernel-guy.com/2017/12/11/bazel-spacex/)

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• Полетный код для Falcon и Dragon собирается из одного репозитория.
• "Test like you fly" - код тестируется в тех же самых условиях, что наблюдаются в полете. Софт и железо тестируются как единая интегрированная система.
• Система непрерывной интеграции выполняет более 8 тысяч заданий в день.
  

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
А были прецеденты в современной космонавтике когда спутник отделялся от РН/РБ не по команде с носителя, а по команде с земли? Мне это кажется как то мало правдоподобным, но как версия

Прецедентов я, конечно, не знаю  :)

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Остальные, а особенно Прогресс для размазывания вины по всем.

Не, не так. Ну или Вы противоречите сами себе. Вначале ставите Прогресс в раздел Главная вина и тут же ставите в раздел Остальные ))

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Остальные, а особенно Прогресс для размазывания вины по всем.

Не, не так. Ну или Вы противоречите сами себе. Вначале ставите Прогресс в раздел Главная вина и тут же ставите в раздел Остальные ))

Где я поставил Прогресс в вначале? Ваше выделенное я выделил.

ЦитироватьГлавная вина [TH]Цитата[/TH]

Кроме того, должностные лица Госкорпорации «РОСКОСМОС» и головные предприятия-разработчики, отвечающие за создание космического комплекса и его составных частей, не приняли исчерпывающие меры к обеспечению должного контроля и координации работ.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Например Интелсат-6 при запуске на Титане-3.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
А были прецеденты в современной космонавтике когда спутник отделялся от РН/РБ не по команде с носителя, а по команде с земли? Мне это кажется как то мало правдоподобным, но как версия

Прецедентов я, конечно, не знаю  :)  

Например Интелсат-6 при запуске на Титане-3. Потом был спасён при первом полёте Индевора.

ЦитироватьШтуцер пишет:
Аппарат имеет связь с Землей еще до КП и телеметрия идет в реальном режиме времени до КО и после, вне зависимости от ГО. По крайней мере у нас.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Например Интелсат-6 при запуске на Титане-3.

Старый,там был очень специфичный случай. Аппарат не мог сам инициировать отделение от РБ. Но, естественно, мог от собственного двигателя довыведения. Им и пожертвовали.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Летали и все работало когда адаптер был свой СпейсИксовский, а тут не свой, а от NG. и вот это изменение надо было тщательно изучить. Изучить вместе. SpaceX со своим уже имеющимся опытом мог подсказать как правильно сделать и лучше протестировать.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
А, вот, аппаратов, которые на выведении обесточены вообще, становится все больше, это явный тренд.

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:
Спасибо. А отвинчивание астронавтами вручную точно можно считать за "команду с Земли"?  :)  
Хотя, конечно, астронавты делали это по команде с Земли... Да, всё сходится  :)

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
так вот же по ссылке
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic16228/message1728705/#message1728705

ЦитироватьКроме того, должностные лица Госкорпорации «РОСКОСМОС» и головные предприятия-разработчики, отвечающие за создание космического комплекса и его составных частей

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Вопрос был про случаи отделения по команде с Земли . Там был какраз такой случай.
Ничем не пожертвовали, спуник полностью сохранил двигатели и топливо.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Вопрос был про случаи отделения по команде с Земли . Там был какраз такой случай.
Ничем не пожертвовали, спуник полностью сохранил двигатели и топливо.

Заблуждаетесь. http://www.hughesscgheritage.com/intelsat-vi-f-3-recovery/

Цитировать Engineers in the INTELSAT Launch Control Center, working with telemetry, tracking, and command stations around the world, c ommanded the satellite  to separate from its unused perigee kick motor (PKM), which took with it the burned-out Titan stage. 

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет:
Спасибо. А отвинчивание астронавтами вручную точно можно считать за "команду с Земли"?  :)  
Хотя, конечно, астронавты делали это по команде с Земли... Да, всё сходится  :)  

Брателло, ты бредишь.  :(  Какое "отвинчивание", какими "космонавтами"? Ты о чём?  :o  Собери мысли в жменьку и попробуй ещё раз.

Цитироватьaif.ru (http://www.aif.ru/society/web/pyl_v_glaza_kak_v_rf_i_ssha_reagirovali_na_neudachnye_zapuski_raket)
«Пыль в глаза».
Как в РФ и США реагировали на неудачные запуски ракет

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Одной из обсуждаемых новостей прошлого года стала авария разгонного блока «Фрегат» с 19 спутниками. Он был запущен с космодрома Восточный ракетой «Союз-2.1б» 28 ноября 2017 года. Первый заместитель генерального директора госкорпорации «Роскосмос» Александр Иванов рассказал журналистам, что причиной аварии (http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/actual/kak_obyasnili_prichinu_padeniya_fregata_so_sputnikami) стало то, что система управления блока рассчитала вращение не в ту сторону. Впоследствии вице-премьер Дмитрий Рогозин заявил, что авария произошла потому, что ракета-носитель «Союз» была настроена на старт с другого космодрома — Байконур.
Менее чем через месяц СМИ и пользователи соцсетей вновь заговорили о неудачах в российской космической отрасли. В этот раз в связи с первым ангольским спутником связи «Ангосат-1», который перестал выходить на связь вскоре после запуска. Спутник был выведен на орбиту ракетой «Зенит» с космодрома Байконур. Как отмечает РИА Новости, он был создан в РКК «Энергия» в интересах Анголы на основе новой служебной платформы, состоящей из компонентов российского производства. Тем не менее, 28 декабря удалось провести новый сеанс связи и получить телеметрическую информацию со спутником.   

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Zuma
В понедельник, 8 января 2018 года, американские СМИ сообщили, что секретный американский спутник под кодовым обозначением Zuma не вышел на орбиту (http://www.aif.ru/society/science/smi_sekretnyy_amerikanskiy_sputnik_upal_v_okean), так как не смог отделиться от второй ступени ракеты-носителя Falcon 9 компании SpaceX в ходе запуска в воскресенье. В итоге он мог быть потерян. Во вторник эту информацию подтвердило стратегическое командование США, однако подробности произошедшего не раскрываются из-за секретности миссии. Компания SpaceX утверждает, что ракета-носитель Falcon 9, выводившая на орбиту спутник работала в штатном режиме. Президент компании Гвинет Шоууэлл сообщила журналистам, что расследование аварии и потери аппарата продолжается. Предназначение спутника засекречено, известно, что он был создан компанией Northrop Grumman Corp. по заказу правительства США. 
АиФ.ru посмотрел, как отреагировали на неудачи российские и американские пользователи интернета и сильно ли отличалась их реакция.
 

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Инцидент с «Фрегатом» и 19 спутниками
Марина Громова 
 Жаль. Надо искать причину и устранять. Удачи!
София Карасова 
 Стыдоба!
 Сергей Карпинский 
 Дешевый китайский навигатор подвёл...
Мубариз Мамедов 
 Ракета просто решила совершить духовный подвиг. Взять на себя миссию по окрещению антарктических пингвинов. Доделать святое дело
Всеволод Кисиленко
 При Сталине такого не было. 
 Специалисты Роскосмоса перепутали космодром. В разгонный блок «Фрегат» было заложено техническое задание для космодрома Байконур, тогда как старт был произведен с Восточного. В результате маневр Фрегата вышел не разгонным, а тормозным. И блок, вместе со всеми спутниками упал в океан.
 Не знаю... Это даже мне уже не смешно. Начинает просыпаться какая-то жалость.
Andrew Neopalimy
 Ориентация — карающий бич века
 «...разгонный блок «Фрегат» (автобус) с 19 космическими аппаратами (КА/спутниками) был неправильно сориентирован, вошел в плотные слои атмосферы и упал в Атлантический океан...»
 ЗЫ Слава богу, что застал я времена, когда с логарифмической линейкой «неправильные ориентации» исключались.
Denis‏ 
 Судя по описанию проблемы с упавшей ракетой, виноват в аварии сам разгонный блок «Фрегат», неправильно азимут посчитал, бывает, но с него уже не спросишь так как он разбился. В общем, работаем дальше.   
 Ангольский спутник «Ангосат-1»
Adil Abbasov 
 Если долго сидеть на берегу океана, то обязательно увидишь ,как мимо проплывает российский спутник)
Катерина Ермакова
 Ну, спутники запускать — это не собак топить. Тут мозги нужны.
Василий Каменев 
 Ничего страшного! Теперь ангольцы узнают нашу поговорку: «Первый блин комом»)))
Анна Керницкая 
 Обхохочешься! Спутник ангольский, кто собирал , то и отвечает! Наши ракеты только выводили на орбиту! Доставили-сделано! А за работу ангольских специалистов не обязан никто отвечать!
Любовь Фролова 
 На орбиту его носитель доставил все-таки. И носитель должен отвечать и за его работу? Логика где?
Konstantins Sablukovs
 Молодцы «Роскосмос», нормально и внятно объяснили причину. Также хорошо решили проблему. Хорошо бы чтоб теперь ещё сделали выводы и более тщательно проверяли до запуска. В целом молодцы, приятно видеть перемены в «Роскосмосе», давно пора уже
Константин Шурыгин
 А вот наш-то спутничек нашелся. Когда он пропал — воплей было много, а когда нашелся — никому не интересно. 
Виктор Нагдасев 
 Ну и хорошо что связь установили, а то за Россию обидно.   
          
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Американский спутник Zuma
Lisa Lo
 Теперь они скажут, что это была вина Хиллари.
John Scott 
 Он предназначен для отслеживания инопланетян, которых Трамп хочет депортировать. Неизвестно Дональду, что инопланетяне умнее и стабильнее, чем он мог себе представить. Это потому, что они пришельцы. Многие из них, естественно, коричневые по сравнению с поддельным апельсином с окрашенными светлыми волосами.
 Mark Michaels
 И они еще думают запускать людей в космос через SpaceX? Ну уж нет! 
Rhonda Williams
 Позорище...
Craig Scott
 Америка снова посмешище.
Clarkma
 Попросите помощи у Северной Кореи.
DisciplinesofIron
 Так поэтому США и NASA сами больше не запускают спутники, и обращаются к сторонним компаниям?
RonUSA49
 Хмм... Поломка или дело рук хакеров? Теориям заговора — да!
Eric Clarke 
 Тайный спутник, который «не существует», несмотря на сообщения новостей ... «исчезает» ... да.
John Henschen 
 Кто-нибудь действительно считает, что он упал?
 Rick Mac Sr.
 Это была засекреченная миссия. Так что вероятно, что все получилось. Они только хотят, чтобы мы думали, будто он упал.
David Sexton 
 Я уверен, что правительству хотелось бы, чтобы мир поверил, что этот шпионский спутник был уничтожен и больше не существует.
SlackToad
 Русские, китайцы и все остальные, кому не все равно, все равно отследили бы спутник. Так что пускать им пыль в глаза бессмысленно. Да и нашему правительству не интересны возникающие в обществе вопросы, они постоянно проводят засекреченные миссии.
Husain Mohammed 
 Он находится на орбите и отлично работает. История полной потери и срыва запуска — это дымовая завеса. Спутник был запущен скрытным правительственным агентством и, скорее всего, является системой орбитального оружия, которая запрещена в соответствии с нынешними мирными договорами.

ЦитироватьGeorgea пишет: 
Из русской Вики было непонятно, что спутник таки отделился сам. 

ЦитироватьСложилось впечатление, что астронавты поймали их с РБ в сборе и, соответственно, разделяли вручную.
Ошибочка вышла.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Где именно? Здесь:

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Полностью запускаются только после раскрытия СБ?

ЦитироватьПервый пуск SpaceX в этом году - возможно неудачный (https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/126165.html)
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January 9th, 13:04
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Секретный спутник Zuma (USA-280), который запустили вчера ночью на ракете Falcon 9, мог сгореть в атмосфере из-за отказа системы отделения от второй ступени. Вторая ступень штатно сведена с орбиты над Африкой и улетела в Индийский океан, спутник могла ожидать та же участь. Первая ступень успешно возвратилась в Канаверал.
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Официальных подтверждений аварии пока не поступало, хотя представители SpaceX заявили "На ракете всё было нормально". Возможная причина может крыться в адаптере - системе отделения спутника от ракеты, которую произвел (https://www.wired.com/story/spacexs-top-secret-zuma-mission-launches-today/) изготовитель самого спутника Northrop Grumman. Тем не менее, аварийный пуск попадает в статистику аварий SpaceX.

Сообщают (https://twitter.com/NecromanceRaven/status/950500422032265216), что падение второй ступени Falcon 9 наблюдали в Судане.

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Косвенным подтверждением непричастности SpaceX к падению спутника является отсутствие переносов следующих пусков компании, которые обычно происходят после аварии.

Однако в базе космических объектов NORAD, объект 43098 (http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=43098) / 2018-001A определен как USA-280, т.е. Zuma. То есть спутник как бы летает, или какая-то деталь он него.

В общем, пока мало объективной информации, и надо ждать подробностей когда независимые наблюдатели что-то высмотрят в небе. Маловероятно, что дождемся официальных комментариев.

Про назначение Zuma ничего неизвестно, хотя орбита не характерна для спутников-шпионов, так что вряд ли это очередной телескоп для подсматривания в иранские и северокорейские форточки. Более вероятно экспериментальное назначение. Возможно, это вообще не спутник, а какой-нибудь гиперзвуковой аппарат, т.е. его уход в атмосферу и исчезновение с орбиты предполагалось заранее, но это ни на чем не основанные домыслы.
Еще более фантастический вариант (https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/the-zuma-satellite-launched-by-spacex-may-be-lost-sources-tell-ars/).


UPD: Гендиректор SpaceX Гвинн Шотуэл дополнительно подчеркнула (https://qz.com/1175393/zuma-satellite-did-elon-musks-spacex-or-northrup-grumman-mess-up-a-secret-us-launch/), что нет никаких данных подозревать сбой в системах SpaceX, и если о подобном появится информация - о ней сообщат официально. Если кто-то говорит обратное - значит врет. Пока произошедшее не влияет ни на какие планируемые запуски SpaceX.
"For clarity: after review of all data to date, Falcon 9 did everything correctly on Sunday night. If we or others find otherwise based on further review, we will report it immediately. Information published that is contrary to this statement is categorically false. Due to the classified nature of the payload, no further comment is possible."Since the data reviewed so far indicates that no design, operational or other changes are needed, we do not anticipate any impact on the upcoming launch schedule. Falcon Heavy has been rolled out to launchpad LC-39A for a static fire later this week, to be followed shortly thereafter by its maiden flight. We are also preparing for an F9 launch for SES and the Luxembourg Government from SLC-40 in three weeks."
 
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ЦитироватьPIN пишет: 
Старый,там был очень специфичный случай. Аппарат не мог сам инициировать отделение от РБ. Но, естественно, мог от собственного двигателя довыведения. Им и пожертвовали.

Цитировать Аппарат не мог сам инициировать отделение от РБ. Но, естественно, мог от собственного двигателя довыведения. Им и пожертвовали.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет: 
Я выше добавил, чтобы понятнее было, в чем специфика и уникальность. 

ЦитироватьКстати, насколько можно судить по официозу, Канопус-СТ имел такую возможность.

Цитировать И если в случае с этой платформой Хьюз понятно, почему, то в случае аппарата без отделяемой ДУ выглядит странно.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
И наконец аппарат ничего не мог "сам инициировать". Отделение от РБ было произведено по команде с земли.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Читал, что первоисточник слуха об аварии - Andy Pasztor из WSJ. Это достоверно? Если да, то степеь доверия еще ниже - этот г-н уже не раз вбрасывал ... на вентилятор сетевых СМИ и социальных сетей.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Возможность по команде отделить Канопус от Волги отсутствовала.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Читал, что первоисточник слуха об аварии - Andy Pasztor из WSJ. Это достоверно? Если да, то степеь доверия еще ниже - этот г-н уже не раз вбрасывал ... на вентилятор сетевых СМИ и социальных сетей.

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Возможность по команде отделить Канопус от Волги отсутствовала.

Тогда растиражированный текст вроде этого - фейк. Что совершенно не исключаю.
 https://vpk.name/news/146077_v_avarii_kanopusst_obvinyayut_boevoi_raschet.html

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Читал, что первоисточник слуха об аварии - Andy Pasztor из WSJ. Это достоверно? Если да, то степеь доверия еще ниже - этот г-н уже не раз вбрасывал ... на вентилятор сетевых СМИ и социальных сетей.

Цитироватьможно ли создать спутник, который будет малообнаруживаемым для современных систем наземного контроля

Цитировать как будет выглядеть с Земли спутник типа "паучья сеточка", если он развернулся

ЦитироватьА что вы вообще думаете о спутнике, который прямо с околоземной орбиты может штатно нырнуть для выполнения неких заданий в Мировом океане - от оперативного поражения подводной цели до исследования освободившегося ото льдов океана где-нибудь на Европе или на Ганимеде

ЦитироватьЧСВ пишет:
Фантазия № 1: можно ли создать спутник, который будет малообнаруживаемым для современных систем наземного контроля? ;-) :-)

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьPIN пишет:
Читал, что первоисточник слуха об аварии - Andy Pasztor из WSJ. Это достоверно? Если да, то степеь доверия еще ниже - этот г-н уже не раз вбрасывал ... на вентилятор сетевых СМИ и социальных сетей.

Еще до статьи WSJ было сообщение Игоря Лисова в этой теме:
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic16228/message1727954/#message1727954

Там ссылка на твит Peter B. de Selding ‏

Zuma satellite from @northropgrumman (https://twitter.com/northropgrumman) may be dead in orbit after separation from @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) Falcon 9, sources say. Info blackout renders any conclusion - launcher issue? Satellite-only issue? -- impossible to draw.

 Peter B. de Selding ‏ - это все таки авторитетный источник. Хотя у него нет про то, что спутник не смог отделиться от второй ступени

Цитировать https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/950453004234297347
23:43 - 8 янв. 2018 г.

45th sometimes describes 'successful launch' in ways that don't mean to imply satellite in-orbit health post separation. Easiest way to kill rumors is to confirm telemetry/orbital parameters. We don't have that.

Цитировать https://twitter.com/45thSpaceWing/status/950172644208410624
5:09 - 8 янв. 2018 г.
45th Space Wing @45thSpaceWing

Congratulations Sharks & @SpaceX! What an incredible way to start off 2018 w/the world's 1st successful launch and landing of this year!