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ЦитироватьSpaceX Changes its Falcon 9 Return-to-flight Plans
by Peter B. de Selding (http://spacenews.com/author/peter-b-de-selding/) — October 16, 2015
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Falcon 9 in SpaceX's Cape Canaveral hangar in advance of the 2014 Orbcomm OG2 Mission 1. Credit: SpaceX  
 
JERUSALEM – SpaceX on Oct. 16 said it had changed its Falcon 9  return-to-flight plans and would first launch 11 small Orbcomm messaging satellites into low Earth orbit, and then test reignition of the rocket's redesigned second-stage engine during the same flight before launching SES's heavier telecommunications satellite into higher orbit, a mission that will need the reignition capability.
Luxembourg-based SES said the company was comfortable with ceding its slot to Rochelle Park, New Jersey-based Orbcomm, especially since SpaceX has said it can launch the SES-9 telecommunications satellite into geostationary orbit in late December.
Hawthorne, California-based SpaceX said the Orbcomm launch would occur by mid-December, meaning the company will proceed with full development of at least two Falcon 9 Upgrade vehicles and launch SES within a couple of weeks of the Orbcomm mission.
SES-9 is a high priority at SES. The delay in the launch — it was supposed to occur by September at the latest —is one reason why SES has trimmed its 2016 revenue projections.
SES spokesman Markus Payer said Oct. 16 that while the company wanted SES-9 in service as soon as possible, it was not inclined to disagree with SpaceX about the risk profile of the return to flight and the advisability of a real-world test of the second-stage engine's reignition.
"At the end of the day, if the launch provider tells you this is the way they would prefer to proceed, then we take that seriously," Payer said. "We are working toward a late-December launch."
SpaceX is returning to flight after a June failure not with the same rocket that failed, but a modified version known variously as Falcon 9 Upgrade and Falcon 9 v1.2. The main purpose of the upgrade is to give Falcon 9 about 30 percent more power. It can then use the extra muscle to return the rocket's first stage to a landing platform even after missions to geostationary orbit.
The Falcon v1.1, which will be used only once more, for a low-orbit mission for NASA, does not have sufficient power to perform a geostationary transfer orbit mission and a return of the rocket's first stage, a maneuver that consumes substantial fuel on its own.
In a statement, Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc Eisenberg said, "We are excited to launch our 11 OG2 [Orbcomm second generation] satellites aboard SpaceX's newly upgraded Falcon 9 rocket and have full confidence in SpaceX and their dedication to this launch."
The Falcon 9 Upgrade features changes throughout the vehicle with the exception of the payload fairing. On the second stage, the enhancements include increased engine thrust, a longer nozzle and a longer second stage overall.
The decision to switch customers suggests that beneath the confidence routinely demonstrated by SpaceX officials lies a prudence that may have been enhanced by the June failure. SpaceX and SES have known for many months about the upgraded vehicle's novelties and test campaign.
SpaceX issued the following statement explaining its decision.
 

Цитировать"As we prepare for return to flight, SpaceX together with its customers SES and Orbcomm have evaluated opportunities to optimize the readiness of the upcoming Falcon 9 return-to-flight mission.  All parties have mutually agreed that SpaceX will now fly the Orbcomm-2 mission on the return-to-flight Falcon 9 vehicle.
"The Orbcomm-2 mission does not require a relight of the second stage engine following orbital insertion. Flying the Orbcomm-2 mission first will therefore allow SpaceX to conduct an on-orbit test of the second stage relight system after the Orbcomm-2 satellites have been safely deployed. This on-orbit test, combined with the current qualification program to be completed prior to launch, will further validate the second stage relight system and allow for optimization of the upcoming SES-9 mission and following missions to  geosynchronous transfer orbit.
"This change does not affect the timeline for SpaceX's return-to-flight mission which is still targeted to take place in the next 6-8 weeks. The SES-9 launch is currently targeted for late December 2015."

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
Give us a ride, we're good to go @elonmusk (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)
 
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13:58 - 19 окт. 2015 г.  

ЦитироватьMoog has shipped the Satellite Dispenser to Cape Canaveral Air Force Station to support ORBCOMM Generation 2 satellites
26 October 2015  
East Aurora, N.Y., 26 October 2015
 
 Moog Inc. (NYSE: MOG.A and MOG.B) Space and Defense Group has shipped the Satellite Dispenser to Cape Canaveral Air Force Station (CCAFS) to support the launch of eleven ORBCOMM (Nasdaq: ORBC) Generation 2 (OG2) satellites.  The launch will take place in the coming weeks from Launch Complex 40 (LC-40) atop a dedicated SpaceX Falcon 9, completing ORBCOMM's next generation satellite constellation.  A Moog dispenser supported the previous successful launch of six ORBCOMM OG2 satellites on July 14, 2014.
 
 Both launches rely on a modular Satellite Dispenser built on multiple Moog EELV Secondary Payload Adapter (ESPA) rings. The Dispenser protects the entire payload "stack" from launch vehicle vibrations and shock using a Moog SoftRide vibration isolation system. In addition, Moog provided the Dispenser electrical harness and will be performing the integration of the Dispenser/spacecraft assembly at the SpaceX CCAFS facility.
 
 The Moog ESPA, first launched in 2007, has established standards for secondary payloads, spawning the standard of "ESPA class" spacecraft. This versatile design can be used for Ride Share opportunities, multiple payload launches as with OG2, a modular spacecraft structural bus as with LCROSS, or the platform for a "free flyer" as for the Air Force EAGLE program. ESPA has enabled missions from Low-Earth Orbit (LEO) to the Moon.
 
 The Moog SoftRide system has flown over 30 times since 1998 on ten different launch vehicles, isolating spacecraft and payloads from the rough launch vibration, shock, and structure-borne acoustic environment associated with the launch.  The SoftRide system uses a series of isolators 'tuned' to the launch vehicle environment and properties of the payload, in this case three ESPAs and eleven OG2 spacecraft. The SoftRide system allows the spacecraft design to be focused on the mission and not the first several minutes of the launch.
 
 Moog engineers and technicians will be performing launch site integration of the spacecraft to the ESPA/SoftRide Dispenser in the next few weeks.  Moog engineers will perform the mechanical integration of the OG2 spacecraft to the ESPAs and electrical harnessing and checkouts for the dispensing system that deploys the spacecraft into the correct orbits.
 
 Moog Inc. is a worldwide designer, manufacturer, and integrator of precision control components and systems. Moog's high-performance systems control military and commercial aircraft, satellites and space vehicles, launch vehicles, missiles, automated industrial machinery, wind energy, marine and medical equipment. Additional information about the company can be found at www.moog.com (http://www.moog.com). Additional information about Moog's Space Sector can be found at www.moog.com/space (http://www.moog.com/space).

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185524.jpg) Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  (https://twitter.com/pbdes)
SpaceX President Shotwell Oct 27 at CASBAA convention: Current target is early Dec for Falcon 9 v1.2 Full Thrust upgrade w/ Orbcomm sats.

0:48 - 27 окт. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)
Reports of a three minute rumble from the SpaceX test stand! (Should be Falcon 9 ORBCOMM-2 Full Thrust First Stage) http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38149.msg1439815#msg1439815 ... (https://t.co/xsunft039m)

 17:46 - 27 окт. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)  
No overnight confirmation the rumble at McGregor was F9 First Stage. Rocket Cows are currently "moo comment". ;) #PatienceRequired (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PatienceRequired?src=hash)

  6:43 - 28 окт. 2015 г.  

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
 
First six satellites headed to the Cape  
 
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  18:33 - 2 нояб. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
Moog espa rings stacked and preparing for the integration to #OG2 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/OG2?src=hash) satellites next week.
 
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  5:50 - 4 нояб. 2015 г.  

ЦитироватьCEO of ORBCOMM: launch date for OG2 "roughly four to five weeks from today" (https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3rn0x5/ceo_of_orbcomm_launch_date_for_og2_roughly_four/) (self.spacex (https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/))
отправлено 4 часа назад автор frowawayduh (https://www.reddit.com/user/frowawayduh)

In the ORBCOMM earnings call today, there was a discussion of the upcoming launch.
OG2 an ideal candidate for return to flight (RTF). Mass to orbit is 50% less than most SpaceX missions, providing margins that make it ideal for RTF. Repeat of July 2014 mission reduces unknowns. RTF missions generally have higher success rates than other missions. Second batch of satellites will ship in the next few days for attachment to dispenser and integration. ORBCOMM expect to announce a specific launch date in the next couple weeks. Expect a late night launch.

ЦитироватьOrbcomm Expects December SpaceX Launch To Fill 'Hole in the Sky'
by Peter B. de Selding (http://spacenews.com/author/peter-b-de-selding/) — November 6, 2015
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Orbcomm's coverage (which changes due to satellite movement) after its Orbcomm Generation 2 (OG2) satellites are all in place. Credit: Orbcomm  
 
PARIS — Satellite machine-to-machine (M2M) messaging provider Orbcomm Inc. on Nov. 5 said it remained cautiously optimistic that launch service provider SpaceX will return to flight in December with a new-version Falcon 9 by launching 11 Orbcomm second-generation satellites.
The launch will complete Rochelle Park, New Jersey-based Orbcomm's second-generation constellation after the six satellites launched aboard Falcon 9 in July 2014.
Orbcomm had expected to be second or third on the flight manifest following Hawthorne, California-based SpaceX's June launch failure. But in October, Orbcomm, SpaceX and SpaceX's putative return-to-flight customer, fleet operator SES of Luxembourg, agreed to switch the two launches' order to allow SpaceX to test reignition of the upgraded Falcon 9's second-stage engine.
Orbcomm's satellites will be dropped off at about 600 kilometers in altitude some 14 minutes after the Falcon 9 lifts off, after a single burn of the second-stage engine. The second stage then will test a 20-minute coast and reignition, which will be required to launch heavy satellites, like SES's, into geostationary transfer orbit.
The 11-satellite Orbcomm payload, including the satellite dispenser, is about one-half the weight of a single large telecommunications satellite headed to geostationary orbit.
The new-version Falcon 9 has more-powerful first- and second-stage engines.
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Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc J. Eisenberg

In a conference call with investors, Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc J. Eisenberg said he expected the launch to occur in the first half of December. "While there is still some work to be done, primarily on the SpaceX side, December is achievable as long as their preparation continues to go well," he said.
One of the most immediate effects of placing into service the full second-generation Orbcomm constellation will be filling what Eisenberg called "a hole in the sky" that has caused service delays for some customers.
In particular, subscribers to Orbcomm's Automatic Information System marine vessel tracking service will see increased flyovers of a given sea lane, to 135 flights per day, with AIS data refresh rates increased to once every 15 minutes, Eisenberg said.
Increased visibility of ships means more AIS revenue. Orbcomm has said its current annualized $5.6 million in AIS revenue will be growing to $10 million to $15 million over time once all 17 second-generation satellites are in service starting in 2016. The company reported that AIS-based revenue for the three months ending Sept. 30 was $1.4 million.
AIS is a side business for Orbcomm, whose focus is to sell service and hardware related to tracking commercial assets on land and sea. Eisenberg said the company would be using its technology to track the arrival, by road, of the 11 remaining satellites as they leave the Nevada facility of builder Sierra Nevada Corp. and head to the launch base at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida.
Orbcomm has been growing its asset-tracking business rapidly in part due to acquisitions as it seeks scale in an exploding M2M market in which new competition appears regularly.
Eisenberg said Orbcomm has some 40 patents covering different aspects of cargo monitoring by satellite and asset monitoring that should provide protection against incursions by new competitors.
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Falcon 9 in SpaceX's Cape Canaveral hangar in advance of the Orbcomm OG2 Mission 1. Credit: SpaceX

"We've had three or four occasions where we thought there were patent violations," Eisenberg said. "We've been pretty successful in defending our patents."
Helped by two acquisitions that closed early this year, Orbcomm reported huge increases in revenue, gross profit and net income. Stripping away the effects of the new purchases, the company grew its organic revenue by 33 percent in the three months ending Sept. 30.
Orbcomm Chief Financial Officer Robert G. Costantini said during the call that Orbcomm expects to spend $40 million at the end of this year in costs related to the delivery, launch and insurance of the 11 satellites, but will still report free cash flow in its fourth-quarter results.
Once this spending is completed and the satellites are in orbit, Orbcomm will begin a capex holiday that will allow it to focus on growing the business, Costantini said.
As he has in the past, Eisenberg told investors that the M2M business is growing so fast that the opportunities for investment are too many to count. With some of the biggest names in commercial rail, road and maritime transport now adopting satellite M2M — from Orbcomm and others — he said no commercial shipper of goods would be able to do without the service.

ЦитироватьChris Bergin пишет:

We've entered today's window for the full duration Static Fire test for OG2's S1 . Everyone keep an ear to the ground for locals saying they heard a three minute rumble.

Note: Rumble doesn't mean "test done" - as always. Static Fires are tests that require data evaluation etc, so I wouldn't expect any comment from SpaceX until next week, should the test occur today.

Edit: Moved to Sunday.

ЦитироватьPlanning for December Falcon 9 launch, Orbcomm ships satellites       
Posted on November 6, 2015 by Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)
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Orbcomm's 11 second-generation OG2 satellites are pictured inside Sierra Nevada's factory in Louisville, Colorado. Credit: Sierra Nevada Corp.
 
The first shipment of Orbcomm's 11-satellite payload for the Falcon 9 rocket's first flight since a June launch failure has arrived at Cape Canaveral, and the rest of the spacecraft will reach the Florida spaceport in the coming days, Orbcomm officials said Thursday.
The liftoff is expected in December aboard SpaceX's return-to-flight mission, and the maiden launch of an uprated version of the Falcon 9 booster designed to lift heavier payloads into space.
"We are now planning around a December launch roughly four to five weeks fr om today," said Marc Eisenberg, CEO of Orbcomm, in a quarterly earnings call with investment analysts Thursday. "While there's still some work to do, mostly from the SpaceX side, December is achievable as long as their preparations continue to go well."
The first six spacecraft due to fly on the launch have arrived at SpaceX's payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral, with another five due to depart their manufacturing facility near Denver in a few days, Eisenberg said.
The multi-satellite adapter ring, made by Moog, that will dispense the 11 Orbcomm second-generation, or OG2, spacecraft on the launch is also being prepared for liftoff at Cape Canaveral.
Components of the Falcon 9 booster itself are still awaiting shipment from SpaceX's Central Texas test facility, wh ere they are finishing up qualification testing, to Cape Canaveral.
Upgrades set to to fly first on the Orbcomm mission include "full-thrust" Merlin engines rated for higher thrust levels, bigger upper stage propellant tanks, and densified kerosene fuel. The design changes raise the Falcon 9's lift capacity by about 30 percent.
With the Falcon 9 grounded since its June 28 launch failure, which SpaceX blames on a structurally deficient strut inside the rocket's upper stage oxidizer tank, the Orbcomm mission will be both a return-to-flight launch and a critical debut of the company's latest rocket iteration.
But Eisenberg is confident going into the launch.
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File photo of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket. Credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett
 
"SpaceX and their team have conducted a comprehensive investigation over the last few months to ensure the readiness of the Falcon 9's return-to-flight," Eisenberg said. "Considering the huge focus SpaceX has placed on this launch, and the fact that return-to-flight missions generally have more favorable success rates than those following normal missions, we have full confidence in SpaceX and believe this is our best opportunity to launch."
SpaceX and Orbcomm announced in October the 11-satellite mission, which is heading for low Earth orbit approximately 400 miles in altitude, will be first in line when the Falcon 9 launch queue resumes.
The decision pushed the launch of SES 9, a large telecommunications satellite heading for geostationary transfer orbit stretching more than 22,000 miles above Earth, until at least late December.
The low-altitude orbit targeted on the Orbcomm flight requires a single burn of the Falcon 9's upper stage Merlin 1D engine, not two firings as needed on geostationary launches like SES 9's mission.
"Looking at it from Orbcomm's point of view, we have an opportunity to get launched and kick off new OG2 services that customers have been planning on for quite some time," Eisenberg said, adding that the mission enables Orbcomm's AIS vessel tracking service to go from periodic to near-realtime coverage and keeps the spacecraft out of cold storage at Sierra Nevada Corp., the OG2 satellite manufacturer.
"From SpaceX's perspective, we are an ideal candidate for the first launch of the newly-updated Falcon 9," Eisenberg said. "Even with 11 satellites, the mass to orbit is nearly 50 percent less than other Falcon 9 missions providing substantial performance margins."
Officials said the Falcon 9's upper stage engine will conduct a re-ignition experiment after releasing the 11 Orbcomm payloads about 14 minutes after liftoff, verifying the relight system works before flying satellites that require the capability.
SpaceX has successfully launched several payloads on two-burn missions using the previous Falcon 9 configuration.
Orbcomm, a New Jersey-based company specializing in asset and maritime tracking via satellite, launched six identical satellites on a Falcon 9 flight in July 2014. The 11 satellites set to go in December complete the company's second-generation constellation.
"From here forward, the satellites will be tested to verify proper operation after transit, fueled, then attached to the Moog dispenser, which once launched is used to dispense the satellites into orbit," Eisenberg said. "The final satellite operation is to encapsulate the satellite stack into the Falcon 9 fairing."
Eisenberg said he expects to announce a specific launch date "in a couple of weeks," but a December launch would be late at night.
"If we launch in December as expected, break out the coffee," Eisenberg said. "Looks like a late evening event, great for spectators."

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67521.jpg) Stephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1  (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1)  
I was in the area and detoured to SpaceX's McGregor test site last night. Orbcomm's booster on the test stand.  
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11:21 - 9 нояб. 2015 г.  

ЦитироватьSpaceX to Run 'Significantly More Noticeable' Test
Posted: Nov 09, 2015 4:09 AM
Upd ated: Nov 09, 2015 4:09 AM

MCGREGOR -- SpaceX is planning to run a test at their rocket development facility in McGregor.

The noise from the test is expected to be significantly more noticeable than the typical tests run there daily.

The exact date and time of the test has not been se t, but the earliest possible date is Monday, November 9.

ЦитироватьF9-021 S1 full duration static fire just occurred at McGregor. Everything looked good! (self.spacex)

отправлено 11 часов назад, изменено * автор EchoLogic

They may want to conduct further checks, but the core should soon be heading off to the Cape for vehicle integration very soon. Three minute test firing looked good.

At the SLC-40 hangar, it will be integrated with the second stage. Satellites have yet to arrive IIRC.

ЦитироватьOrbcomm booster seems to be still at McGregor on 11-13-2015
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185524.jpg) Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  (https://twitter.com/pbdes)
SES: We still assume late-Dec Falcon 9 v1.2/Upgrade launch of SES-9 sat. (will be 2d flight of upgraded Falcon, after mid-Dec Orbcomm LEO).

5:55 - 18 нояб. 2015 г.

ЦитироватьMarc Eisenberg‏@Marc944Marc (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)


Stage 1 arrives at the cape.

ЦитироватьPirat5 пишет:
Так чёрной и полетит? или это у неё накидка?

ЦитироватьSatellite AIS: Why the Launch of OG2 Satellites is a Game Changer
    Posted on March 9, 2015 (http://blog.orbcomm.com/satellite-ais-why-the-launch-of-og2-satellites-is-a-game-changer/) by Andrew Loretta (http://blog.orbcomm.com/author/andrew_l/)                 —          No Comments ↓ (http://blog.orbcomm.com/satellite-ais-why-the-launch-of-og2-satellites-is-a-game-changer/#respond)          

In my last blog post (http://www.orbcomm.com/blog/the-ins-and-outs-of-vessel-tracking-from-space-with-satellite-ais), I referred to Portvision (http://www.portvision.com/) CEO Dean Rosenberg's blog post (http://www.portvision.com/news-events/press-releases-news/bid/382880/vessel-tracking-from-space-with-satellite-ais-0) which clearly articulated the benefits and limitations of terrestrial and satellite AIS. In today's post, I wanted to look at the limitations that were outlined for satellite AIS and how the launch of ORBCOMM's next generation OG2 satellites (http://www.orbcomm.com/networks/og2-launch) is going to change these.
According to Dean's blog post, satellite AIS has three limitations...

1. Lower Reporting Frequency
 "While terrestrial AIS can report vessel positions in near-real-time (with multiple updates each minute), satellite AIS has significantly higher latency and lower frequency of reporting.  Current satellite AIS service providers typically provide position updates on specific vessels only a few times each day.  While this lower frequency of reporting still provides compelling value to track the progress of ships at sea, it does not allow for many of the advanced alerting and reporting features that are available with terrestrial AIS."

What Changes with the Launch of OG2 Satellites?
 Latency of the AIS data delivery is affected by the size of the satellite constellation and the ground station infrastructure. When the satellite receives an AIS message, it stores the message internally until the satellite becomes connected to a ground station. The satellite then downloads all the messages received since the last ground station connection.
With the launch of 11 more next-generation OG2 satellites and ORBCOMM's existing network of 16 ground stations, data latency for some areas is expected to go as low as 1 minute!

2. Limited Detection of Vessels
 "The ability to detect AIS signals from space is currently an imperfect "art".  Electromagnetic interference (particularly in dense areas) often limits the ability to detect vessels in congested areas, even when vessels are transmitting their AIS signal."

What Changes with the Launch of OG2 Satellites?
 The laws of probability come into play when looking at the likelihood of detecting an AIS message via satellite. The probability of detecting an AIS signal increases as you spend more time over the vessel or more satellites pass over a vessel. With the launch of 11 more next-generation OG2 satellites, ORBCOMM will offer more satellite passes which will increase the detection rate of vessels.

3. Cost
 "It is expensive to launch a satellite, and the commercial satellite operators need to recoup that investment.  As such, satellite AIS typically carries significantly higher licensing fees than terrestrial-only AIS providers."

What Changes with the Launch of OG2 Satellites?
 Since AIS is just one of the services offered by the ORBCOMM satellite constellation, we are able to offer more flexibility in our plans and services compared to other satellite AIS providers.
If you would like more details about how ORBCOMM addresses satellite AIS limitations, I recommend you download our latest white paper (http://www.orbcomm.com/pages/ais/Satellite-AIS.html?utm_ref=skywaveblog). You can also contact me (mailto:satelliteais@orbcomm.com) – I would be more than happy to answer your questions.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/67585.jpg) Eric Berger ‏@SciGuySpace  (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace)   2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/671685646130413569)  
@flatoday_jdean (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean) The Orbcomm launch NET December?

 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185659.jpg) James Dean Подлинная учетная запись ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  
@SciGuySpace (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace) Yes, if approved, and if SpaceX is ready to launch in Dec. (15th under consideration).
  5:59 - 1 дек. 2015 г.  

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185659.jpg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)   1 день назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/671814608601116673)  
SNC confirms it has delivered Orbcomm's 11 OG2 satellites to Cape Canaveral for "mid-December" launch on Falcon 9.
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Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185500.jpg) Charles A. Lurio ‏@TheLurioReport  (https://twitter.com/TheLurioReport)  
SpaceX launch date for return to flight now 19 Dec.- proximate cause a payload issue. AF approves booster return to land, Optimism FAA ditto

  14:39 - 5 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185524.jpg) Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  (https://twitter.com/pbdes)
Orbcomm: Best-guess estimate of Falcon 9 Upgrade launch of our 11 sats is Dec. 19. With the usual caveats.
 5:27 - 7 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
All satellites fully fueled and attached to the rings. Waiting on SpaceX to confirm launch date.
 9:00 - 9 дек. 2015 г.

 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185779.jpg) Gognitive Demi ‏@cognitive_demi  3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/cognitive_demi/status/674643299832066049)
@Marc944Marc (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc) Is there a upper stage already on cape?
 
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)  50 минут назад (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/674682234763403264)
‏@cognitive_demi yes

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185638.jpg) Brian ‏@dafuq_mac  (https://twitter.com/dafuq_mac)  3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/dafuq_mac/status/674646411946754048)
@Marc944Marc (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc) would it be possible to see what the sats lookalike? Never seen a ring o sats ! Good luck!!

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)  2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/674660105154097152)
@dafuq_mac (https://twitter.com/dafuq_mac) good chance I can accommodate that. Give me a day of two.

Цитировать(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg)Elon MuskVerified account‏@elonmusk (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)


Aiming for Falcon rocket static fire at Cape Canaveral on the 16th and launch about three days later

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 22 мин22 минуты назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/674954667730817025)
Chris B - NSF ретвитнул(а) Elon Musk
 Window is 20:25 to 23:25 local time for the 19th.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
@dafuq_mac (https://twitter.com/dafuq_mac)
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/158963.jpg)
 12:44 - 10 дек. 2015 г.

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185663.jpg) Spatium Explorare ‏@Amazing_Factzz  (https://twitter.com/Amazing_Factzz)  17 часов назад (https://twitter.com/Amazing_Factzz/status/675088335371673600)
 
@Marc944Marc (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc) @dafuq_mac (https://twitter.com/dafuq_mac) Does the other side include 2 sats and 1 mass simulator?
 
  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)  17 часов назад (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/675089518601572355)
 
@Amazing_Factzz (https://twitter.com/Amazing_Factzz) @dafuq_mac (https://twitter.com/dafuq_mac) It Does

  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/634047268358754304/h9HX0xDP_bigger.jpg) Kim Böndergaard ‏@Threezool  (https://twitter.com/Threezool)  8 часов назад (https://twitter.com/Threezool/status/675221951749726208)

@Marc944Marc (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc) Thanks for posting the image! Were speculating on how the sats were packaged before launch to fit on the Falcon. =)
 
  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)  3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/675290607544307712)
 
@Threezool (https://twitter.com/Threezool) there a video tweet from snc
  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185469.png) ORBCOMM ‏@ORBCOMM_Inc  (https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc)  3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc/status/675291353333526528)
 
ORBCOMM Ретвитнул(а) SNC's Space Systems
@Marc944Marc (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc) @Threezool (https://twitter.com/Threezool) Check it out here:
ORBCOMM добавил(а),
   (https://twitter.com/SNCspacesystems/status/671826906371649537)
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/155910.jpg)
 https://twitter.com/SNCspacesystems/status/671826906371649537

 SNC's Space Systems @SNCspacesystems
We've successfully completed the shipment of satellites for ORBCOMM">@ORBCOMM (//undefined) 's OG2 Mission 2 Launch! http://www.sncspace.com/AboutUs/NewsDetails/2306

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
We're encapsulated.  
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/159070.jpg)
  12:54 - 14 дек. 2015 г.

ЦитироватьДимитър пишет:
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

Dec. 19/20 - Falcon 9 • Orbcomm OG2
Launch window: 01 25 - 04 25 GMT on 20th (8:25-11:25 p.m. EST on 19th )

Цитироватьtestest пишет:
Falcon установили на стартовом столе, но прожига не было.

ЦитироватьLanista пишет:

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:

ЦитироватьДимитър пишет:
 https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

Dec. 19/20 - Falcon 9 • Orbcomm OG2
Launch window: 01 25 - 04 25 GMT on 20th (8:25-11:25 p.m. EST on 19th )

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic15003/message1445926/#message1445926

ЦитироватьАртём Жаров пишет:

ЦитироватьLanista пишет:

У Мэтью Трэвиса эта аватарка в твиттере уже давно, больше года точно, так что это не сегодняшний Фалькон (админам группы ВК уже передал  ;)  ) .

ЦитироватьDarga пишет:
and we have a map for this one. Work in progress Google Map link https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zXmjsQgIEPtk.kEXviMLLYGIk Added Second stage deorbit area
 (https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59913)  (https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59915)

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/430419911483990016/ETpdbQye_bigger.jpeg) Ben Cooper ‏@LaunchPhoto  (https://twitter.com/LaunchPhoto)  
There is a 90% chance of acceptable weather for Sat night's Falcon 9 return to flight. Best viewing expected to be Port Canaveral.

ЦитироватьАртём Жаров пишет:

ЦитироватьLanista пишет:

У Мэтью Трэвиса эта аватарка в твиттере уже давно, больше года точно, так что это не сегодняшний Фалькон (админам группы ВК уже передал  ;)  ) .

ЦитироватьPeter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  (https://twitter.com/pbdes)  2 ч.2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/677448128182751233)  
Orbcomm: We're awaiting word from SpaceX on whether F9 Upgrade's no-static-fire yesterday will automatically move the launch beyond Dec. 19.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185549.jpg) Marc Eisenberg ‏@Marc944Marc  (https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc)
We're on the pad, vertical and will attempt SF again this afternoon.  
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/159041.jpg)  
  8:02 - 17 дек. 2015 г.  

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk Подлинная учетная запись ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)
Falcon 9 is vertical on the launch pad at Cape Canaveral. Working towards static fire. Deep cryo liquid oxygen presenting some challenges.
 17:23 - 17 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185776.jpg) Scott M ‏@Restrantek  (https://twitter.com/Restrantek)
"Loading propellant and one more try in 10 minutes" Source asked not to be identified #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) #Falcon9 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash) Static Fire Test
 16:59 - 17 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185680.gif) Ben Brockert ‏@wikkit  (https://twitter.com/wikkit)
Haven't heard any FAA approval, but Cape Canaveral AF Station plans to kick out all non-essential personnel expecting Falcon 9.2 to land.
 14:14 - 17 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX Подлинная учетная запись ‏@SpaceX  (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)
Falcon 9 went vertical yesterday and the teams ran through pad operations. Working towards static fire later today. 
 9:34 - 17 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk Подлинная учетная запись ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)
@PaigeANjax (https://twitter.com/PaigeANjax) -340 F in this case. Deep cryo increases density and amplifies rocket performance. First time anyone has gone this low for O2.
17:34 - 17 дек. 2015 г.

ЦитироватьLuke ‏@lukealization  (https://twitter.com/lukealization) 4 часа назад (https://twitter.com/lukealization/status/677663981293740033)
@elonmusk (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) Are you chilling RP-1 also?
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk Подлинная учетная запись ‏@elonmusk   (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)4 часа назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/677666779494248449)
@lukealization (https://twitter.com/lukealization) yes, from 70F to 20 F

ЦитироватьDecember 18, 2015 (8:45 a.m. ET)
 The Falcon 9 rocket remains vertical at Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. The teams will continue working towards a static fire today to verify the rocket's readiness and aim towards launching a few days after the static fire is completed.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/29262.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)
Jeff Foust Ретвитнул(а) SpaceNews
Hearing SpaceX is working towards a Sunday launch, pending the outcome of today's static fire; backup date Tuesday.

Jeff Foust добавил(а),
 SpaceNews @SpaceNews_Inc
FAA Moves Closer to Approving Falcon 9 Landings at Cape Canaveral - http://spacenews.com http://spacenews.com/faa-moves-closer-to-approving-falcon-9-landings-at-cape-canaveral/...
 9:21 - 18 дек. 2015 г.

ЦитироватьFAA Moves Closer to Approving Falcon 9 Landings at Cape Canaveral
by Jeff Foust (http://spacenews.com/author/jeff-foust/) — December 18, 2015
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/155576.jpg)
A SpaceX illustration of a Falcon booster returning to Cape Canaveral for landing. An FAA review found no environmental issues with those landing plans, bringing SpaceX closer to final approval for a landing attempt. Credit: SpaceX  
 
WASHINGTON — A Federal Aviation Administration environmental review found no issues with plans by SpaceX to land its Falcon 9 first stage at Cape Canaveral, bringing the company a step closer to winning final approval to attempt such a landing on an upcoming launch.
The FAA, in a document formally known as a finding of no significant impact, concluded there would be no major environmental issues linked to SpaceX's plans to land Falcon 9 first stages at a decommissioned launch site the company now calls Landing Complex 1.
"After reviewing and analyzing available data and information on existing conditions and potential impacts," the document states, "the FAA has determined issuance or modification of a launch license to conduct Falcon landings at [Cape Canaveral Air Force Station] would not significantly affect the quality of the human environment" as defined in federal law.
The document, signed Dec. 4 by FAA Associate Administrator for Commercial Space Transportation George Nield and posted on the agency's website, reviewed various environmental factors associated with the proposed landings, including air quality, noise and visual impacts. None of the factors, the FAA concluded, posed a significant environmental impact.
The document notes that final approval from the FAA for a Falcon 9 first stage landing would require either a new launch license or a modification to an existing launch license. An environmental review, such as the one completed by the FAA, is one part of the overall launch license application process.
SpaceX currently has launch licenses for several upcoming missions, including the launch of 11 Orbcomm satellites planned for this month. Those licenses will require modifications regardless of plans to land the first stage since they refer to the Falcon 9 version 1.1, whereas SpaceX plans to use the upgraded Falcon 9 on those launches.
Neither the FAA nor SpaceX have commented publicly on any requests by SpaceX to modify existing launch licenses or seek new launch licenses, either to accommodate an attempted landing or to take into account the use of the upgraded Falcon 9. They have also not disclosed how soon before the launch the FAA would have to approve a new or revised launch license.
Any attempted landing by the Falcon 9 first stage at Cape Canaveral would also require range approval from the U.S. Air Force. Sources at Cape Canaveral have said the Air Force has informed them that the overall launch complex will be closed to non-essential personnel for a landing.
The date of SpaceX's next launch is uncertain. The company previously announced it would conduct a static fire test of the Falcon 9 on its launch pad Dec. 16, followed by a launch attempt about three days later. However, that test was postponed first to Dec. 17, and then to Dec. 18.
SpaceX Chief Executive Elon Musk, in a tweet late Dec. 17, suggested delays in the static fire test were linked to plans to chill the rocket's liquid oxygen propellant to colder temperatures than previous launches. "Deep cryo liquid oxygen presenting some challenges," he wrote.
Cooling the liquid oxygen to temperatures of less than –205 degrees Celsius is designed to make the propellant denser and improve its performance. "We're cooling the propellant, particularly the liquid oxygen because it's two-thirds liquid oxygen, close to its freezing point," Musk said in a Dec. 15 speech at the Fall Meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco when discussing upgrades to the Falcon 9.
Musk said this is the first time someone has attempted to use liquid oxygen chilled to those temperatures in a launch vehicle. He added that, despite the difficulties SpaceX was experiencing on the pad at Cape Canaveral, they successfully demonstrated it at the company's Texas test site.
Others in the industry, however, are skeptical of the benefits of supercooled propellants. "That's why we don't bother. Lots of complexity for little gain," tweeted George Sowers, vice president of advanced concepts and technologies at United Launch Alliance, in response to Musk's tweet early Dec. 18.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)
Chris B - NSF Ретвитнул(а) ORBCOMM
NET Sunday launch window is understood to be 20:02 to 23:02 Eastern...if they successfully static fire today.
 6:01 - 18 дек. 2015 г.

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  19 минут назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/677970721730002944)
Aborted on ignition timing due to slow ground side valve. Adjusting ignition sequence by 0.6 secs for next attempt.

 (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  57 минут назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/677961117595906048)
About 2 mins from static fire
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/677945101184708609)
Abort triggered by flight computer on upper stage throttle valve. Adjusting thresholds and restarting count at T-10 mins.

 (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/677940293212102656)
5 mins from static fire test

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  28 мин28 минут назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/677980503459270657)
Rounding up to 1 sec for a bit of timing margin. Updating flight computer command sequence ...

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)  
Falcon 9 OG2 launch notice documentation now showing *instantaneous* window on Dec. 20 as 20:29 Eastern. Dec 22 is 15 minute window.

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)
KSC received an exclusion zone notice in anticipation of the Falcon 9 first stage land landing. Updated article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/12/spacex-static-fire-falcon-9-og-2-rtf/ ... (https://t.co/3pHFe11J6Z)

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk Подлинная учетная запись ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)
 Static fire test looks good. Pending data review, will aim to launch Sunday.
  16:09 - 18 дек. 2015 г.  

ЦитироватьChris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)   19 минут назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/678004696964063233)  
Yay! SpaceX Falcon 9 Static Fire ahead of OG2 RTF mission - http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/12/spacex-static-fire-falcon-9-og-2-rtf/ ... (https://t.co/3pHFe11J6Z)

ЦитироватьИлон Маск: запуск ракеты Falcon 9 может состояться 20 декабря
05:59 19.12.2015 (обновлено: 06:08 19.12.2015)
Обновленная Falcon 9 впервые после аварии должна вывести на орбиту 11 спутников нового поколения OG2 телекоммуникационной компании Orbcomm.
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© AP Photo/ John Raoux

ВАШИНГТОН, 19 дек – РИА Новости. Первый запуск ракеты-носителя Falcon 9 компании SpaceX после произошедшей в июне катастрофы может состояться 20 декабря, ракета должна вывести на орбиту 11 спутников связи, сообщил владелец компании SpaceX Илон Маск.
В пятницу на космодроме на мысе Канаверал (штат Флорида) прошло огневое испытание двигателей первой ступени ракеты. Несмотря на то, что в ходе испытания Маск несколько раз сообщал о технических сложностях, по его итогам он написал в своем Twitter аккаунте (https://twitter.com/elonmusk?lang=ru): "статистическое огневое испытание выглядит хорошо". "Ожидаем анализа данных, будем нацеливаться на запуск в воскресенье", — написал предприниматель.​
Обновленная Falcon 9 должна вывести на орбиту 11 спутников нового поколения OG2 телекоммуникационной компании Orbcomm.
Ранее глава SpaceX заявил о том, что ракета была значительно модернизирована после произошедшей в июне катастрофы, когда в результате аварии на старте был также потерян космический грузовик Dragon. Пока неизвестно, намерена ли SpaceХ предпринимать очередную попытку сохранить для повторного использования первую ступень ракеты-носителя в ходе первого старта ее улучшенной модели.
Частная космическая компания SpaceX по контракту с НАСА осуществляет запуски грузового аппарата Dragon к МКС. Первый после крушения запуск грузовой капсулы Dragon при помощи Falcon 9 намечен на январь 2016 года.

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/science/20151219/1344906305.html#ixzz3ulEpVpEd

ЦитироватьCurrently looking good for a Sunday night (~8pm local) attempted orbital launch and rocket landing at Cape Canaveral

ЦитироватьSpaceX plans to return Falcon 9 rocket to flight Sunday       
Posted on December 19, 2015 by Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/154833.jpg) (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/154833.jpg)
SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket, standing 229 feet tall, on its Cape Canaveral launch pad earlier this week. Credit: SpaceX
 
SpaceX says Sunday is the target launch date for the first launch of a remodeled version of its Falcon 9 rocket, and the launcher's first mission since a June failure, after completing a practice countdown and engine ignition test Friday.
The mission's firsts, including a possible landing attempt for the Falcon 9's first stage, make it a critical launch for SpaceX as the company simultaneously resumes flying its fully-booked manifest, debuts a new generation Falcon booster, and continues a lengthy research and development initiative into rocket reusability.
Sunday's launch attempt is timed for 8:29 p.m. EST (0129 GMT Monday) fr om Cape Canaveral's Complex 40 launch pad.

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Sources said only an instantaneous launch opportunity is available Sunday due to restrictions imposed by the Federal Aviation Administration, which may be hesitant to re-route holiday week air traffic around the Cape Canaveral launch base for several hours in case of launch delays.
SpaceX and FAA officials did not comment on the launch window constraints for Sunday, but the federal regulatory agency has refused to approve commercial launch attempts on busy travel days before, including a 2013 SpaceX flight that tried to blast off on several days around Thanksgiving.
Elon Musk, SpaceX's founder and CEO, announced late Friday the completion of a static fire engine test with the Falcon 9 rocket on its Florida launch pad. The static fire was set for Wednesday, but launch crews ran into problems that delayed the critical preflight milestone to Friday just before 7 p.m. EDT (0000 GMT Saturday).
In a post to his Twitter account, Musk said the launch is on track for Friday, one day later than previously disclosed.
Saturday's launch window extended three hours, but Sunday's is shortened to one instant.
The launch is pending a final data review of the results of Friday's static fire, Musk said.
Eleven satellites owned by Orbcomm, a New Jersey-based communications company, are fastened on top of the 229-foot-tall Falcon 9 rocket. They will join five identical spacecraft launched on a Falcon 9 mission in July 2014 to complete deployment of Orbcomm's second-generation, or OG2, satellite network designed to relay messages and help owners track shipments around the world.
Orbcomm says one of six satellites sent up in 2014 has since failed in orbit.
The mission will steer the 11 Orbcomm satellites, each about 380 pounds, into an orbit approximately 400 miles above Earth. Once the 11 satellites separate from an adapter ring atop the Falcon 9's second stage, the upper stage Merlin engine is programmed to restart for a demonstration maneuver for future missions requiring multiple burns.
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/154834.jpg) (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/154834.jpg)
Orbcomm's 11 satellites ready for launch aboard the Falcon 9 rocket are seen here attached to their dispenser before encapsulation inside the Falcon 9 fairing. Credit: Orbcomm
 
SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket has been grounded since a mishap shortly after a June 28 launch destroyed a commercial Dragon supply ship with cargo heading for the International Space Station.
The launch failure, coupled with efforts to qualify an upgraded Falcon 9 configuration for flight, stalled Falcon 9 missions for nearly six months.
Sunday's return-to-flight launch will carry several upgrades to the Falcon 9 rocket, including Merlin 1D engines rated for higher thrust levels.
Each of the Falcon 9's nine Merlin 1D engines, affixed to the base of the booster in an "octaweb" arrangement, will generate 170,000 pounds of thrust at sea level. The engines will collectively produce more than 1.5 million pounds of thrust.
The older generation Falcon 9 rocket had first stage engines that ramped up to a maximum power level of 147,000 pounds of thrust, or 1.3 million force-pounds when firing together.
A space-rated Merlin engine on the upper stage will have a maximum 210,000 pounds of thrust in vacuum, and it features a lengthened nozzle and extended tanks. The interstage connecting the Falcon 9's first and second stages is also changed to accommodate the new Merlin vacuum nozzle, which has a center pusher to aid stage separation, according to space industry officials.
Another feature of the new-generation Falcon 9 is it will fly with condensed propellant, allowing engineers to load extra fuel into the rocket. Like earlier versions of the Falcon 9, the rocket consumes liquid oxygen and RP-1 fuel, a type of refined kerosene.
That works by chilling the liquid oxygen and RP-1 fuel mixture to colder temperatures, packing the propellant molecules closer together to free up room for additional fuel.
Musk said the densified liquid oxygen on the upgraded Falcon 9 is chilled to minus 340 degrees Fahrenheit, colder than typical launch-grade liquid oxygen at minus 298 degrees. The RP-1 fuel will fly at 20 degrees Fahrenheit, down from the room temperature 70-degree level more commonly used in rocketry.
He tweeted late Thursday the colder liquid oxygen was "presenting some challenges," during that day's static fire attempts, but Musk did not elaborate on the issues, adding that it was the first time a rocket would launch with oxidizer at such cold temperatures.
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/154844.png) (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/154844.png)
Phil McAlister, head of NASA's commercial spaceflight office, presented this chart at a recent NASA Advisory Council meeting illustrating changes introduced on the full-thrust version of the Falcon 9 rocket. The rocket is shown in a configuration with a Dragon crew capsule. Credit: NASA/Phil McAlister
 
"There a number of improvements in the rocket, and one of the things we're doing for the first time — the first time I think anyone's done it — is deeply cryogenic propellant," Musk said in remarks Tuesday at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. "We're sub-cooling the propellant, particularly the liquid oxygen because it's two-thirds liquid oxygen, close to its freezing point, which increases the density quite significantly.
"The thrust is higher, we've improved the stage separation system, we stretched the upper stage of the rocket to add more propellant to that," Musk said. "There are a number of other improvements in electronics. It's, I think, a significantly improved rocket from the last one."
The design modifications increase the rocket's height by about 5 feet — to 229 feet — and boost the Falcon 9's performance by about 30 percent, officials said.
The upgrades allow the Falcon 9 to lift heavier communications satellites into geostationary transfer orbit, and still have enough reserve propellant to attempt landing. Earlier missions with payloads going to such orbits flew in expendable mode and did not try for a controlled descent to an ocean-going barge in the Atlantic Ocean.
SpaceX was working on the upgraded rocket before the June launch failure, the first in 19 flights of the Falcon 9.
SpaceX's two chief rivals — United Launch Alliance in the U.S. market and Arianespace in the international launch business — are paying attention to Sunday's flight.
George Sowers, ULA's vice president of advanced concepts and technologies, responded early Friday to Musk's comments on Twitter regarding the issues supercooled liquid oxygen: "That's why we don't bother. Lots of complexity for little gain."
Arianespace chief executive Stephane Israel told Spaceflight Now in an interview that he wishes SpaceX the best on the return-to-flight mission.
"Launching can be tricky," Israel said. "There was a former CEO of Arianespace and CNES — Frédéric d'Allest — a very impressive guy, who always said that in our business, it is a business wh ere failure and success are the closest. One little thing can make a difference and change the outcome of the mission.
"Our main competitor has a huge backlog to deliver in the coming two years," Israel said. "What will not be easy on their side will be to do three things at the same time: keep innovating; launch as often as possible; and not fail. This is their challenge. We have our own challenges obviously."
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This frame from a SpaceX animation of a rocket landing shows a Falcon 9 booster descending under the power of its center engine. Credit: SpaceX
 
The third objective of Sunday's flight — classified as purely experimental — will be to recover the Falcon 9's booster stage a few minutes after liftoff, perhaps at a landing pad near the eastern tip of Cape Canaveral leased by SpaceX from the U.S. Air Force.
SpaceX has not officially disclosed whether the rocket will head for the landing pad on the Florida coast or the company's landing barge, or drone ship, positioned in the Atlantic Ocean.
Falcon 9 boosters have attempted controlled landings on the drone ship before, using three brief ignitions of a subset of its nine engines to guide itself to the barge and slow down to a vertical descent as landing legs extend for touchdown.
The rocket has reached the drone ship both times it tried, but SpaceX has not stuck the landing. The rocket tipped over and broke apart in a fireball, and SpaceX executives have said the rocking motion of the football field-sized platform adds another challenge to the ocean landings, despite taking special measures with underwater control thrusters to keep the ship stable.
SpaceX is not the only space company vying for a reusable rocket.
Blue Origin, a firm founded by Amazon.com's Jeff Bezos, launched a suborbital rocket to the edge of space in November from West Texas and successfully landed it a few minutes later in a similar manner to SpaceX's vertical descent method.
Bezos and Musk disagreed on whether landing the Falcon 9 or Blue Origin's New Shepard rocket is more technically daunting, but Bezos' company chalked up the first-ever safe return of a commercial vehicle that took off under its own power and flew into space.
SpaceX hopes to retrieve a used rocket and run it through inspections and tests on the ground before reuse. If the booster could be recycled and flown again, SpaceX says launch costs will come down.
"With reusable rockets, we can reduce the cost of access to space by probably two orders of magnitude," Musk said.
A notice sent to employees at the Kennedy Space Center and Cape Canaveral Air Force Station said SpaceX may attempt a landing at the spaceport, and it detailed road closures beyond those typically shut down for a launch, potentially due to the landing try.
A spokesperson for the Air Force's 45th Space Wing, the unit responsible for the the Cape Canaveral launch range, declined comment on additional safety precautions that might be taken for the unprecedented rocket landing, if it occurs.

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ЦитироватьRocket landing at Cape Canaveral planned after SpaceX launch       
Posted on December 19, 2015 by Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)
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Artist's concept of a Falcon 9 booster stage descending to a landing site at Cape Canaveral. Credit: SpaceX
 
Assuming SpaceX's plans come to fruition, a Falcon 9 flight from Cape Canaveral on Sunday will end with a vertical rocket-assisted landing at an abandoned Cold War-era launch facility a few miles away.
SpaceX confirmed the rocket's first stage, a slender cylindrical kerosene-fed rocket body standing 156 feet tall, will aim for a controlled touchdown at a landing pad the company rented from the U.S. Air Force less than six miles south of the Falcon 9's Complex 40 launch pad.
Liftoff is set for a 60-second window opening at 8:29 p.m. EST Sunday (0129 GMT Monday). A backup launch opportunity is available Monday.
A statement released by SpaceX on Saturday said the company planned to recover the Falcon 9's first stage booster at Landing Zone 1, previously known as Space Launch Complex 13, an Atlas launch facility that was last used in 1978.
The Federal Aviation Administration was expected to formally approve the landing attempt in SpaceX's commercial launch license.
The Falcon 9's second stage engine will continue driving into orbit with 11 Orbcomm message relay satellites, the primary objective of Sunday's launch, after the first stage unlatches and falls away from the upper stage about three minutes after liftoff.
The first stage will flip around with pulses from cold gas thrusters, then re-ignite a subset of its nine Merlin main engines to propel itself back toward Cape Canaveral from the northeast.
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Launch Complex 13, or Landing Zone 1, is circled in this map of Cape Canaveral. Credit: Air Force Space and Missile Museum
 

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On final descent, the rocket's center engine will fire up for a landing burn as four legs extend from the base of the booster. Maneuverable grid fins attached to the top of the first stage will help ensure aerodynamic stability.
Touchdown at Landing Zone 1, which sits just north of the eastern tip of Cape Canaveral on Air Force property, is expected within 20 minutes of launch, but the exact time has not been disclosed.
SpaceX has tried to land Falcon 9 boosters on an ocean-going barge in the Atlantic Ocean after two launches earlier this year, but the rockets tipped over after touchdown on the ship. The flight profile to steer the rocket back toward the coast — essentially reversing its course more than 60 miles up in space — has never been tried before, but the final landing sequence should be similar to the descents over the ocean.
The landing will be at night at Cape Canaveral, but the flash of the final descent burn could be visible to spectators.
A video of a landing attempt on SpaceX's autonomous spaceport drone ship after an April launch showed the rocket's fall toward the landing target, slowed down by the single-engine descent burn, then cold gas thrusters firing in an effort to keep the rocket upright.
SpaceX officials said a sonic boom could also accompany the landing as the rocket slows from supersonic speed.
"Just as when the space shuttle returned from space, there is a possibility that residents of northern and central Brevard County, Fla. may hear a sonic boom during landing," SpaceX said in a statement. "A sonic boom is the thunder-like noise a person on the ground hears when an aircraft or other type of aerospace vehicle flies overhead faster than the speed of sound.
"Residents of the communities of Cape Canaveral, Cocoa, Cocoa Beach, Courtenay, Merritt Island, Mims, Port Canaveral, Port St. John, Rockledge, Scottsmoor, Sharpes, and Titusville in Brevard County, Fla. are mostly likely to hear a sonic boom, although what residents experience will depend on weather conditions and other factors," the statement said.
The Air Force's 45th Space Wing, the unit which runs the Cape Canaveral spaceport, plans to evacuate much of the base for the historic landing attempt, the first of its kind on Florida's Space Coast.
If the rocket lands intact, SpaceX engineers will inspect the booster, scrutinizing it to learn how the vehicle weathered the re-entry and how much refurbishment is needed before flying again.
Sunday's launch also marks the first flight of an upgraded version of the Falcon 9, carrying condensed, super-cold propellants, larger fuel tanks and uprated engines to carry heavier payloads into orbit. The extra performance, coupled with the relatively light weight of the Orbcomm satellites — each one is about the size of a refrigerator — leaves ample propellant for the return to Cape Canaveral.
"If successful, this test would mark the first time in history an orbital rocket has successfully achieved a land landing," SpaceX said in a press release.
Elon Musk, SpaceX's chief executive, tweeted about the landing early Saturday.

Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk Подлинная учетная запись ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  
Currently looking good for a Sunday night (~8pm local) attempted orbital launch and rocket landing at Cape Canaveral
  1:57 - 19 дек. 2015 г.  

Blue Origin, another entrepreneurial space company founded by Amazon.com's billionaire founder Jeff Bezos, achieved a successful vertical takeoff and landing of its New Shepard booster in Texas in November. While the Falcon 9 rocket is built for orbital launches, the New Shepard is suborbital, traveling just beyond the internationally-recognized 62-mile (100-kilometer) boundary of space.
While the New Shepard is a smaller-scale rocket than the Falcon 9, a point Musk made in a series of tweets after the Blue Origin landing, the suborbital launcher became the first commercial vehicle to take off under its own power, reach space and return to safe landing on the ground.

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ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Пролоббировал, продавил? ;)

ЦитироватьИскандер пишет:
Да сколько можно "бомбить" несчастную платформу?!

ЦитироватьNilk пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Пролоббировал, продавил?  ;)  

Похоже всем стало очевидно, что посадка на платформу в море не является необходимым условием для посадки на сушу, а скорее наоборот.

Цитироватьche wi пишет:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacexphotos/23833499336/

ЦитироватьИскандер пишет:
Да сколько можно "бомбить" несчастную платформу?!

Ну, а "заради принципа" – хотя бы раз успешно посадить ступень на плавающий в море-акияне пятачок?  :)

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Вопрос только где ступень возьмёт энергию погасить горизонтальную скорость и вернуться на сушу.
Горизонтальная скорость в момент разделение ступеней 1,5 км в секунду.

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Вопрос только где ступень возьмёт энергию погасить горизонтальную скорость и вернуться на сушу.
Горизонтальная скорость в момент разделение ступеней 1,5 км в секунду.

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
прикольно. А где обычно первая ступень падает? нельзя где нить в Англии организовать посадку?

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет: 
Нельзя где нить в Англии организовать посадку?

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
прикольно. А где обычно первая ступень падает? нельзя где нить в Англии организовать посадку?

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
прикольно. А где обычно первая ступень падает? нельзя где нить в Англии организовать посадку?

Через Англию проходит плохое наклонение.

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Эх увидеть бы видео как первая ступень будет менять направление на возвращение, т.к. по рисунку выше не понятно с положением ступени относительно земли и работы двигателей.

ЦитироватьСергей пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Эх увидеть бы видео как первая ступень будет менять направление на возвращение, т.к. по рисунку выше не понятно с положением ступени относительно земли и работы двигателей.

Посмотрите внимательно - нарисована ракета в нескольких позициях по траектории, ориентация по язычку пламени, на траектории цветом выделены участки работы двигателей.

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
за счет аэродинамических рулей вверху первой ступени она разворачивается двигателями вниз?

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
первая ступень берет выше - за счет чего?

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
за счет чего положение корпуса первой ступени меняется на противоположное?

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
в каком положении относительно земли она проходит верхнюю точку?...

ЦитироватьPhotos: Taller, souped-up Falcon 9 on the launch pad       
Posted on December 20, 2015 by Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)    
          
A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, built with extended propellant tanks and engines rated for higher thrust, is poised for liftoff on the company's first launch since a catastrophic failure in June grounded the commercial booster.
The rocket stands 229 feet tall, five feet taller than the previous version of the Falcon 9, and will burn a super-chilled mixture of liquid oxygen and rocket-grade kerosene colder than the propellants consumed on SpaceX's earlier launches.
Eleven refrigerator-sized satellites for Orbcomm's message relay constellation are bolted on top of the rocket for deployment less than a half-hour after liftoff at 8:29 p.m. EST Sunday (0129 GMT Monday) from Cape Canaveral's Complex 40 launch pad.
SpaceX aims to return the 156-foot first stage booster to a vertical rocket-assisted touchdown at a landing zone about six miles south of the launch pad, a first-time flyback maneuver that the company bills as a major step to making the rocket reusable.
 
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Photo credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

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Photo credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

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Photo credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

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Photo credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

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Photo credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

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Photo credit: Stephen Clark/Spaceflight Now

Цитировать09:04
Live video coverage and updates on the countdown, launch and landing of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket will be available on this page Sunday.
SpaceX's live webcast begins at 8:05 p.m. EST (0105 GMT), less than a half-hour before the Falcon 9's scheduled launch time of 8:29 p.m. EST (0129 GMT) with 11 communications satellites for Orbcomm.

09:02
Assuming SpaceX's plans come to fruition, a Falcon 9 flight from Cape Canaveral on Sunday will end with a vertical rocket-assisted landing at an abandoned Cold War-era launch facility a few miles away.
Read our full story. (http://24liveblog.com/url?go=http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/12/19/rocket-landing-at-cape-canaveral-planned-after-sundays-spacex-launch/)

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Отбой на сегодня... погода

SCRUB. Falcon 9 launch delayed until Monday to ensure higher chance of good landing.

Цитировать ORBCOMM ‏@ORBCOMM_Inc  (https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc)   18 минут назад (https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc/status/678688366003683332)  
New target launch time is actually Monday, December 21 at 8:33 pm ET (not 8:34 as previously reported). #OG2 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/OG2?src=hash) #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) @elonmusk (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)

Цитировать23:57  Favorable weather expected Monday
Mostly cloudy skies are expected for Monday night's Falcon 9 launch opportunity, but there is an 80 percent chance of acceptable weather, slightly less than Sunday's attempt.

"Stratocumulus clouds from gusty onshore flow are currently blanketing the spaceport," forecasters from the U.S. Air Force's 45th Weather Squadron wrote in an outlook issued Sunday afternoon. "This onshore wind direction has also moderated temperatures and is creating some very light coastal showers. On Monday, winds continue veering and become southeasterly which will allow the frontal boundary to slowly migrate back to the north along with the associated clouds and scattered rain."
But most of the heaviest precipitation should remain away from Cape Canaveral Monday evening.
"The front should remain south of the Space Coast until overnight Monday and into Tuesday keeping the unsettled conditions, rain showers and isolated thunderstorms to the south as well," the forecasters wrote.

The primary concerns Monday are with the cumulus cloud rule associated with isolated coastal rain showers and the thick cloud rule due to the frontal boundary's possible northern movement back into the area, according to the Air Force.

The forecast calls for some light rain showers in the vicinity, scattered clouds at 3,000 feet and 10,000 feet, and a broken deck of clouds at 25,000 feet. Winds should be from the east-southeast at 10 to 15 mph, the launch time temperature is expected to be 72 degrees Fahrenheit, and visibility is forecast to be 7 miles.

23:22
Orbcomm says officials ordered the 24-hour launch delay to review data and complete chilling of the Falcon 9's liquid oxygen, a complex procedure which cools the cryogenic oxidizer to minus 340 degrees Fahrenheit, near its freezing point, from the more often used temperature of minus 298 degrees.
"Upon further review of the static fire data, SpaceX has determined that an additional day prior to launch will allow for more analysis and time to further chill the liquid oxygen in preparation for launch," Orbcomm said in a statement.
The static fire Friday was a major step in preparing for the Falcon 9 launch, which is SpaceX's first mission since a rocket failure in June grounded the launch vehicle. The mission is also the debut launch of an upgraded Falcon 9 version, including the super-chilled propellant.

22:59
Monday's launch time is set for 8:33 p.m. EST (0133 GMT Tuesday) with a 60-second launch window.

22:55
Elon Musk, SpaceX's CEO tweeted: "Just reviewed mission params w SpaceX team. Monte Carlo runs show tmrw night has a 10% higher chance of a good landing. Punting 24 hrs."

22:54  SCRUB
SpaceX has called off today's Falcon 9 launch attempt and is rescheduling the liftoff for Monday.

ЦитироватьDeflang пишет:
Я так понимаю, проблемы с переохлажденным кислородом остро возникнут во время возвращения первой ступени.

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:
А посадку покажут?

Цитировать http://geektimes.ru/post/268016/
Летим и садимся вместе с Falcon 9R
...К счастью, благодаря замечательному сценарию для Orbiter (OG2 Launch) мы можем посмотреть на этот процесс почти как непосредственные зрители....
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ЦитироватьДимитър пишет:
Этот старт довольно интересный:
1. Первый старт Фалкона после аварии
2. Первый старт новой версии Фалкона - 1.2
3. Первая попытка посадить первую ступень на суше
4. Вроде первый вывод на орбиту 11 спутников за раз на Фалконе.

ЦитироватьДимитър пишет:
2. Первый старт новой версии Фалкона - 1.2

ЦитироватьСатурн-5 пишет:

ЦитироватьДимитър пишет:
2. Первый старт новой версии Фалкона - 1.2

Откуда это название "Falcon 9 1.2"? На сайте и твиттере/фейсбуке SpaceX такого названия не нашел. В американских источниках касательно данного пуска фигурирует "Upgraded Falcon 9", иногда "Falcon 9 Full Thrust".

"1.2" - просто домыслы исходя из наличия "1.1"?

Цитировать21:24  View from the Kennedy Space Center

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High clouds ares streaming over the Kennedy Space Center this afternoon as the Falcon 9 countdown closes in on six hours before the launch time of 8:29 p.m. EST (0129 GMT).

20:41  New launch time
Orbcomm says tonight's launch window now extends for five minutes and opens at 8:29 p.m. EST (0129 GMT).

The weather outlook still calls for an 80 percent chance of acceptable conditions.
"Gusty southeasterly winds are bringing temperatures into the 80s over the spaceport and will also bring a weak boundary slowly north," the Air Force's 45th Weather Squadron says. "The boundary, with its associated clouds and scattered rain, should not move as far north as the Space Coast until after the launch window. The primary weather concerns for launch are the cumulus and thick cloud layer rule associated with the frontal boundary migrating further north than expected."
The latest forecast issued at 12 p.m. EST (1700 GMT) predicts a few clouds at 3,500 feet, scattered clouds at 12,000 feet and a broken deck at 25,000 feet. Some light rain showers could be in the area, with winds out of the east-southeast at 10 to 15 mph.

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так летим мы сегодня или не летим?
Идти спать или ждать "Флакон-1.2 л" ?

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/29262.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)
Still 80% chance of acceptable weather for tonight's Falcon 9 launch attempt: http://1.usa.gov/1HP4RZZ  (https://t.co/KCWhnb9K1I)

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX ‏@SpaceX  (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)   1 час назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/679039057180024832)
Falcon 9 on the pad in advance of tonight's mission to launch 11 @ORBCOMM_Inc (https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc) satellites & attempt 1st stage landing  
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ЦитироватьPirat5 пишет:
22 декабря в 04:33 ДМВ.

ЦитироватьАтяпа пишет:
Утром глянем - а вдруг первая ступень там стоит, как новенькая...

ЦитироватьАтяпа пишет:
Точно, пора баюшки.
Утром глянем - а вдруг первая ступень там стоит, как новенькая...

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Ну что ж... У Маска в очередной раз всё получилось, можно поздравлять...

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
У Маска в очередной раз всё получилось, можно поздравлять...

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX ‏@SpaceX  (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)  7 мин7 минут назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/679116637824491520)  
All 11 @ORBCOMM_Inc (https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc) satellites have been deployed in nominal orbits.  
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ЦитироватьSpaceX ‏@SpaceX  (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)  5 мин.5 минут назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/679117322985054208)    
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ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Ну что ж... У Маска в очередной раз всё получилось, можно поздравлять...

ЦитироватьПрол пишет:
Интересно, эта ступень полетит хотя бы еще раз?

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/186040.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)  13 мин.13 минут назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/679116448145502208)
100 percent mission success. SpaceX Falcon 9 returns. Lands. Does her job. Holy Moly! I need a drink. AMAZING!  
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Цитировать (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  6 мин6 минут назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/679137936416329728)  
There and back again
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  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/69029.jpg) SpaceX ‏@SpaceX  (https://twitter.com/SpaceX)  1 ч1 час назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/679122112196382720)  
Long exposure of launch, re-entry, and landing burns  
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ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Если SpaceX удастся запустить её еще раза три-четыре - у ракетчиков всего мира будет коллективная истерика... По поводу упавшей на ногу цены на запуски...

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/185765.jpg) Jeff Bezos ‏@JeffBezos  (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos)   2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/679116636310360067)
Congrats @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) on landing Falcon's suborbital booster stage. Welcome to the club!

ЦитироватьПетр Зайцев пишет:
Ракетчики мира вероятно смогут повторить этот метод посадки.

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:

ЦитироватьJeff Bezos ‏@ JeffBezos  2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/679116636310360067)
Congrats @ SpaceX on landing Falcon's suborbital booster stage. Welcome to the club!

Цитироватьhttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/679145544673923072
Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) 12 минут назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/679145544673923072)
Live video from LZ-1
https://t.co/Ve6gEXfOdh
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/648751321026138112/8z47ePnq_bigger.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)  26 минут назад (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/679142215981993984)
Falcon 9 standing on LZ-1 at Cape Canaveral
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/159120.jpg)

ЦитироватьПетр Зайцев пишет:

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Если SpaceX удастся запустить её еще раза три-четыре - у ракетчиков всего мира будет коллективная истерика... По поводу упавшей на ногу цены на запуски...

Ракетчики мира вероятно смогут повторить этот метод посадки. Теперь доказано, что это возможно. Раньше было гораздо труднее выбивать финансирование, доказывать на заседаниях технических советов. Теперь будет легче.

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Нюансы:
1. много сожгли топлива на возвратный маневр - спутники были легкими.
2. сели в практически полный штиль, что видно по клубам выхлопа, равномерно растекающимся во всех направлениях.
- Вопрос экономики сего действа остается открытым.

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Этот метод посадки был продемонстрирован уже 20+ лет назад, когда летала DC-X. Ну, и Безос продемонстрировал.

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Нюансы:
1. много сожгли топлива на возвратный маневр - спутники были легкими.
2. сели в практически полный штиль, что видно по клубам выхлопа, равномерно растекающимся во всех направлениях.
- Вопрос экономики сего действа остается открытым.

О! А Баба Яга Not как всегда...

ЦитироватьFalcon 9 Launches Orbcomm Satellites, First Stage Lands
by Jeff Foust (http://spacenews.com/author/jeff-foust/) — December 21, 2015
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/155574.jpg)A Falcon 9 first stage sits on the pad at Landing Zone 1 at Cape Canaveral, Florida, after making a successful landing Dec. 21 after launching 11 Orbcomm satellites. Credit: SpaceX webcast
 
Updated at 10:20 p.m. Eastern
OMAHA, Neb. — A SpaceX upgraded Falcon 9 rocket lifted off Dec. 21 and placed 11 Orbcomm satellites in orbit, while the first stage successfully landed back near the launch site at Cape Canaveral.
The upgraded Falcon 9 lifted off at 8:29 p.m. Eastern fr om Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida. Deployment of the 11 Orbcomm satellites started about 14 minutes after liftoff, and Orbcomm Chief Executive Marc Eisenberg said on Twitter that all 11 satellites had checked in after deployment.
While the Falcon 9's second stage ascended towards orbit, the first stage started a series of burns to head back to a decommissioned launch site called Landing Zone 1, several kilometers south of the launch site. The first stage touched down on the pad there nearly 10 minutes after liftoff and remained upright, according to webcast video of the landing attempt.
"The Falcon has landed," the SpaceX launch director said as video showed the first stage standing on the pad after landing. Loud cheers erupted at SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, California, wh ere employees gathered to view the launch and landing.
"It's been a very celebratory atmosphere here at SpaceX. I think people are really overjoyed," SpaceX Chief Executive Elon Musk said in a brief media teleconference about an hour after the launch.
 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/155575.jpg) (http://spacenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/falcon-deploys-11th-orbcomm-satellite-2015-12-21.jpg)SpaceX finished deploying all 11 Orbcomm satellites about 10 minutes after successfully landing Falcon 9's first stage at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida. Credit: SpaceX webcast screen grab
The launch and landing represent several major milestones for SpaceX. The launch was the first for the Falcon 9 since a failure in June on a cargo mission to the International Space Station. The launch was also the first of an upgraded version of the Falcon 9, with increased thrust, an improved stage separation system and a stretched upper stage that can hold additional propellant.
The landing at Landing Zone 1 was also the first time SpaceX had successfully landed the rocket's first stage. Previous attempts on launches in January and April to land the first stage on a ship in the Atlantic Ocean failed, with the stages either crashing into the deck of the ship or toppling over upon landing.
The successful landing, and earlier attempts, are part of a larger effort by SpaceX to make the Falcon 9 at least partially reusable. "With reusable rockets, we can reduce the cost of access to space by probably two orders of magnitude," or a factor of 100, Musk said in a Dec. 15 speech at the Fall Meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.
The launch was originally scheduled for Dec. 19, but delayed to Dec. 20 after a static fire test on the pad, originally scheduled for Dec. 16, was postponed until Dec. 18. SpaceX then postponed a launch attempt Dec. 20 several hours before the scheduled launch, with Musk explaining via Twitter that simulations suggested slightly better odds for a successful landing if the launch was delayed a day.
The successful launch and landing won praise from industry and government officials. "Today clearly placed the exclamation mark on 2015, by closing out another successful year for the Eastern Range in historic fashion," said U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Wayne Monteith, commander of the 45th Space Wing that operates the overall Cape Canaveral launch complex, in a Dec. 21 statement.
"This was a first for us at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, and I can't even begin to describe the excitement the team feels right now having been a part of this historic first-stage rocket landing," Monteith added.
"Through a year of hard lessons learned, SpaceX's December return to flight and successful planned landing of its first stage, just six months after the June mishap, reminds us of this industry's best qualities: agility, innovation and perseverance," said Eric Stallmer, president of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation, in a Dec. 21 statement.
SpaceX also received congratulations, of a more sarcastic sort, from the founder of a competing company. "Congrats @SpaceX on landing Falcon's suborbital booster stage," tweeted Jeff Bezos, the founder of Blue Origin. "Welcome to the club!"

ЦитироватьJeff Bezos ✔ @JeffBezos  (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos)
 
Congrats @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) on landing Falcon's suborbital booster stage. Welcome to the club!
 
  3:49 AM - 22 Dec 2015 (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/679116636310360067)

Bezos' Blue Origin successfully landed the propulsion module of its New Shepard suborbital vehicle on a Nov. 23 test flight from the company's West Texas test site. After the test, Musk congratulated Bezos for the landing, but suggested that the achievement was not as significant as Bezos claimed, citing SpaceX's record of low-altitude landing tests and SpaceX's use of a larger vehicle that is part of an orbital launch system.

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Этот метод посадки был продемонстрирован уже 20+ лет назад, когда летала DC-X. Ну, и Безос продемонстрировал.

Ну, все же не на такой машине... Вот если б они после DC-X сделали летающую DC-Y - то это было бы даже круче Маска...

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:

ЦитироватьJeff Bezos ‏@ JeffBezos  2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/679116636310360067)
Congrats @ SpaceX on landing Falcon's suborbital booster stage. Welcome to the club!

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Маск, конечно, молодец, но после Безоса - впечатление уже далеко не такое сильное.

ЦитироватьИскандер пишет:
И без метана экономичность многоразовости сомнительна.

Цитироватьuncle_jew пишет:
Уже люди под ракетой?

А остатки горючего они уже успели слить? А то как бы не отправился Маск в гости к генералу Неделину...

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
DC-X выписывала такие кульбиты, что некоторым самолетам на зависть.

ЦитироватьКарлсон пишет:
Хруничеву надо снижать цены.. благо, девальвация почти трехкратная дает такие возможности.. Иначе, его на рынке не будет.

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Экономика - самое слабое место многоразовости.

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:

ЦитироватьИскандер пишет:
И без метана экономичность многоразовости сомнительна.

Да, было бы интересно узнать, во что обойдется переборка и чистка от сажи девяти ЖРД.

Цитироватьuncle_jew пишет:
Уже люди под ракетой?

А остатки горючего они уже успели слить? А то как бы не отправился Маск в гости к генералу Неделину...

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Экономика - самое слабое место многоразовости.

Ежу понятно. Но ведь не попробуешь - не узнаешь... Если б оно еще на уровне расчетов не завязывалось - Маск её и делать не стал бы. А что будет по факту - увидим.

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:

Цитироватьuncle_jew пишет:
Уже люди под ракетой?

А остатки горючего они уже успели слить? А то как бы не отправился Маск в гости к генералу Неделину...

Керосином надышатся, или кислородом?

Цитироватьvlad7308 пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:

ЦитироватьИскандер пишет:
И без метана экономичность многоразовости сомнительна.

Да, было бы интересно узнать, во что обойдется переборка и чистка от сажи девяти ЖРД.

скоро узнаем. в течение 2-3 лет

ЗЫ а я выиграл 100р - поспорил, что F9 с трех попыток сядет

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
А для этого нужно что-то запускать? Сажу можно и на стенде наработать.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Поздравляю SpaceX, молодцы!
Осталось понять, уйдет ли это далее чем демонстрация технических возможностей.

ЦитироватьПетр Зайцев пишет:
Ракетчики мира вероятно смогут повторить этот метод посадки.

ЦитироватьПетр Зайцев пишет:
Раньше было гораздо труднее выбивать финансирование, доказывать на заседаниях технических советов.

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Этот метод посадки был продемонстрирован уже 20+ лет назад, когда летала DC-X. Ну, и Безос продемонстрировал.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:
Дело не только в цене, но и в надежности.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Поздравляю SpaceX, молодцы!
Осталось понять, уйдет ли это далее чем демонстрация технических возможностей.

Конечно, молодцы! Поздравление от Роскосиоса хоть будет? Все же исторический момент. Или уже с утра креативные личности бешено картинки для презентаций рисуют?  :)

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
Кузнечик? Не, не слышал.

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так понимаю, все предыдущие попытки срывались из-за качания платформы? Как на сушу - так сразу с первого раза ОК?

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так понимаю, все предыдущие попытки срывались из-за качания платформы? Как на сушу - так сразу с первого раза ОК?

ЦитироватьKap пишет: 
А СпейсИкс вот взял и сделал на прибыль с коммерческих пусков, ага.

ЦитироватьAlexio пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так понимаю, все предыдущие попытки срывались из-за качания платформы? Как на сушу - так сразу с первого раза ОК?

Да ну, глупости это.
Причины неудачных посадок на баржу в ракете-носителе.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Или что Вы понимаете под "коммерческим пуском"?

Цитироватьsychbird пишет:
Да, силен Маск, ничего не скажешь Дело даже не в успешной посадке. А вот замутить такую миссию после предыдущей аварии - это высший класс.  :!:  
Такие люди и делают историю в технике. Полный респект!  8)

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

Цитироватьsychbird пишет:
Да, силен Маск, ничего не скажешь Дело даже не в успешной посадке. А вот замутить такую миссию после предыдущей аварии - это высший класс.  :!:  
Такие люди и делают историю в технике. Полный респект!  8)  

Категорически согласен, как и с тем что кое кому в ВВС выкрутили яйца, полагаю что не без участия одного известного сенатора, так что они сняли свои предыдущие требования успешной посадки на баржу до посадки на территорию ВВС  ;)

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
здесь (http://www.cnet.com/news/elon-musk-says-spacex-can-outcompete-anyone-even-china/) Маск говорит что компания прибыльна,
разработка f9 стоила $300m и dragon ещё столько же
Что ровно в 10 раз меньше чем цих получил на Ангару.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
здесь (http://www.cnet.com/news/elon-musk-says-spacex-can-outcompete-anyone-even-china/) Маск говорит что компания прибыльна,
разработка f9 стоила $300m и dragon ещё столько же
Что ровно в 10 раз меньше чем цих получил на Ангару.

Вообще, с каждым пуском любого частника в США, Ангара выглядит всё позорнее

У нас тоже есть небедные люди из списка форбс, но до ракет им далеко,
Почувствуйте разницу между капитализмом и клептократией.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
здесь (http://www.cnet.com/news/elon-musk-says-spacex-can-outcompete-anyone-even-china/) Маск говорит что компания прибыльна,
разработка f9 стоила $300m и dragon ещё столько же
Что ровно в 10 раз меньше чем цих получил на Ангару.

Вообще, с каждым пуском любого частника в США, Ангара выглядит всё позорнее

У нас тоже есть небедные люди из списка форбс, но до ракет им далеко,
Почувствуйте разницу между капитализмом и клептократией.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
У нас тоже есть небедные люди из списка форбс, но до ракет им далеко,

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Или что Вы понимаете под "коммерческим пуском"?

Все масковские пуски кроме Драконов...

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Откуда уверенность, что на прибыль от этих пусков Маск сделал возврат ступени?

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Скорее всего из денег, которые НАСА выделяет.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Или что Вы понимаете под "коммерческим пуском"?

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Все масковские пуски кроме Драконов...

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
Все пуски включая Драконы - НАСА почему-то их считает коммерческими.

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

ЦитироватьAlexio пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так понимаю, все предыдущие попытки срывались из-за качания платформы? Как на сушу - так сразу с первого раза ОК?

Да ну, глупости это.
Причины неудачных посадок на баржу в ракете-носителе.

Видимо по этой причине от посадок на баржу отказались, ракета-носитель ее не полюбила  :)  

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

ЦитироватьAlexio пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так понимаю, все предыдущие попытки срывались из-за качания платформы? Как на сушу - так сразу с первого раза ОК?

Да ну, глупости это.
Причины неудачных посадок на баржу в ракете-носителе.

Видимо по этой причине от посадок на баржу отказались, ракета-носитель ее не полюбила

В этом пуске был большой недогруз. SES-9 скорее всего будет на баржу. А если нет страшно себе представить реальную грузоподъемность одноразового Фалкона-9.

ЦитироватьGeorge пишет:
Поэтому одноразовым морально устаревшим "распилом и помойкой" вроде С-5 не место.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:

ЦитироватьNot пишет:

ЦитироватьAlexio пишет:

ЦитироватьЧебурашка пишет:
Так понимаю, все предыдущие попытки срывались из-за качания платформы? Как на сушу - так сразу с первого раза ОК?

Да ну, глупости это.
Причины неудачных посадок на баржу в ракете-носителе.

Видимо по этой причине от посадок на баржу отказались, ракета-носитель ее не полюбила

В этом пуске был большой недогруз. SES-9 скорее всего будет на баржу. А если нет страшно себе представить реальную грузоподъемность одноразового Фалкона-9.

В пусках на ГСО разве ступень возвращают? Такого еще ни разу не было.

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
Все пуски включая Драконы - НАСА почему-то их считает коммерческими.

НАСА-то да, считает, но не здешние знатоки...

ЦитироватьСергей пишет:
Жалко не видно траектории захода на посадку и работы СУВТ.

ЦитироватьСергей пишет:
Интересно с каким остаточным весом приземлилась ступень.

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
Все пуски включая Драконы - НАСА почему-то их считает коммерческими. Прям так программа и называется Commercial Resuply Services.

Цитироватькосмофан котофеич пишет:
а сколько весят 10 спутников Orbcomm?

Цитироватькосмофан котофеич пишет:
а сколько весят 10 спутников Orbcomm?

ЦитироватьEach spacecraft has a mass of 172 kilograms (379 lb) and is designed to provide at least five years' service.

ЦитироватьThe target orbit for the launch is expected to be 615 by 750 kilometres (382 by 466 statute miles, 332 by 405 nautical miles), inclined at 52 degrees to the equator.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Поздравляю SpaceX, молодцы!
Осталось понять, уйдет ли это далее чем демонстрация технических возможностей.

Конечно, молодцы! Поздравление от Роскосиоса хоть будет? Все же исторический момент. Или уже с утра креативные личности бешено картинки для презентаций рисуют?  :)

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:
Но еще впятеро бОльшие молодцы будут, когда аттестуют эту ступень для повторного пуска. А иначе это - красиво, но бесполезно.

ЦитироватьСергей пишет:
Маск конечно молодец, не отступил - посадил таки первую ступень, подстраховался - посадка на сушу, в маловетренную погоду, точка приземления недалеко от места старта - и правильно сделал, не все сразу.

Цитировать http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2878507
...Но потом эти же эксперты сказали: нет, у американцев на мысе Канаверел постоянно откладывают то посадку, то пуск в связи с погодой, так как возле океана много проблем, поэтому лучше на континент перебраться....

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:
Но еще впятеро бОльшие молодцы будут, когда аттестуют эту ступень для повторного пуска.

Цитироватьtestest пишет:

ЦитироватьZOOR пишет:
Но еще впятеро бОльшие молодцы будут, когда аттестуют эту ступень для повторного пуска. А иначе это - красиво, но бесполезно.

Не эту, следующую. Это будут прожигать на убой

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Об том и речь, что на гос деньги тоже можно получать прибыль частникам и ИМХО гос деньги являются основной статьей доходов SpaceX.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Теперь установили, что коммерческие пуски Маска- это ЗАпуски, финансируемые в том числе и государством. На данный момент примерно 50 на 50

ЦитироватьNot пишет:
Вы все время забываете о тех условиях 90-х годов в которых существовал ЦИХ, когда все деньги уходили на поддержание штанов.

ЦитироватьAccording to Musk, the first stage will now be transported to Kennedy Space Center's Launch Complex 39A. It likely will not be used on upcoming flights.

ЦитироватьThe billionaire stated at a post-landing teleconference that he believed the landing only had about a 60–70 percent chance of success – and that the sonic booms, a long-missed sound along the Cape since the end of the shuttle era, were the sound of failure. Musk and many in the area quickly changed that notion as a new sound hit their ears –the sounds of roaring cheers and thunderous applause.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
Если F9 вернётся с ГСО, можно будет вообще весь Роскосмос закрывать.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
Если F9 вернётся с ГСО, можно будет вообще весь Роскосмос закрывать.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:

В таком случае, Маск (и Безос) стартовали с нуля в 2002 году и вообще без штанов.
Потратили в 10 раз меньше денег, и сделали ракету следующего поколения, которая уже летала большее число раз.

Если F9 вернётся с ГСО, можно будет вообще весь Роскосмос закрывать.

ЦитироватьGeorge пишет:
Ясно только одно нужно больше набрать фактических данных по оным

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
В таком случае, Маск (и Безос) стартовали с нуля в 2002 году и вообще без штанов.
Потратили в 10 раз меньше денег, и сделали ракету следующего поколения, которая уже летала большее число раз.

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
Чтобы отстать посильнее?

ЦитироватьЗловредный пишет: 
Притом в стране, где уровень жизни выше и рабочая сила дороже

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Да, Маску было тяжелее, чем космонавтам Зимбабве

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:
Вы деятельность Роскосмоса оцениваете исключительно по достижениям Ангары?

ЦитироватьGeorge пишет:
Только без паники.

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:
Штатные плакальщики за судьбу космонавтики прибежали слезы лить. Даже на ФНК Маск умудрился устроить шоу. Молодец!

ЦитироватьKap пишет:

ЦитироватьGeorge   пишет:
Только без паники.

Уже дожили до успешной посадки. Конь не валяется.

Цитироватьnapalm   пишет:
Штатные плакальщики за судьбу космонавтики прибежали слезы лить. Даже на ФНК Маск умудрился устроить шоу. Молодец!

А можно по-подробнее о причастности Маска к ангарскому позорищу? Если бы ЦИХ сейчас не ЛКИ А-5 на три года растягивал, а Байкал испытывал - шоу сейчас было бы сильно скромнее.

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
А можно по-подробнее о причастности Маска к ангарскому позорищу? Если бы ЦИХ сейчас не ЛКИ А-5 на три года растягивал, а Байкал испытывал - шоу сейчас было бы сильно скромнее.

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Если Маск докажет, что многоразовость экономически эффективна, то ему надо будет поставить памятник при жизни.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
Что будет являться доказательством?
Повторный пуск той же ступени сойдёт?
Или если станет брать за запуск на ГСО меньше союза?

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
А можно по-подробнее о причастности Маска к ангарскому позорищу? Если бы ЦИХ сейчас не ЛКИ А-5 на три года растягивал, а Байкал испытывал - шоу сейчас было бы сильно скромнее.

ЦитироватьСергей пишет:
... Жалко не видно траектории захода на посадку...

ЦитироватьOleg пишет:

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ЦитироватьOleg пишет:

Вроде и смешно, но по сути попытка унизить Маска. Ведь если его рокетко дешевле - значит сделана на коленке из говна и палок.

ЦитироватьAlfred пишет:
Россия страна идиотов!

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:

ЦитироватьOleg пишет:

Вроде и смешно, но по сути попытка унизить Маска. Ведь если его рокетко дешевле - значит сделана на коленке из говна и палок.

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:

ЦитироватьOleg пишет:

Вроде и смешно, но по сути попытка унизить Маска. Ведь если его рокетко дешевле - значит сделана на коленке из говна и палок.

Это скорее карикатура на НАСА.

ЦитироватьKap пишет:
А можно по-подробнее о причастности Маска к ангарскому позорищу?

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:
"НАСА работает долго и дорого.

ЦитироватьAlfred пишет:
поражает количество идиотов вобще в стране и особенно на этом сайте. казалось бы сама тема космонавтики должна притягивать умных людей а нет. большинство здесь было против многоразовости. пока своими глазами не увидят не поверят. а что бы умом понять выгодность и речи даже не идет. Россия страна идиотов! Увы!

ЦитироватьРакета выполнена по двухступенчатой (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0) пакетной схеме (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%85%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0). Первую ступень составляют четыре боковых блока с кислородно-керосиновыми (https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C&action=edit&redlink=1) четырёхкамерными двигателями РД-170 (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%94-170), возвращаемые на Землю с помощью парашютов. Ресурс модулей первой ступени составляет около 10 запусков.

ЦитироватьOleg пишет:
По поводу суперклея и скотча, вспомните случай с растрескиванием сопла на стартовом столе. Выход из ситуации Маск нашел явно не в традициях NASA. Иногда это оправдано.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Если Маск докажет, что многоразовость экономически эффективна, то ему надо будет поставить памятник при жизни.

Что будет являться доказательством?
Повторный пуск той же ступени сойдёт?
Или если станет брать за запуск на ГСО меньше союза?

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Когда 2 пуска Фалькона-9 на ГСО на одной и той же 1-ой ступени будут не дороже 2-х пусков Союзов-2 с примерно одинаковой по массе ПН.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:
Конечно, военка и союзы у нас останутся.
Но что запуски некоторых коммерческих спутников уйдут на запад по финансовым соображениям не исключается.

ЦитироватьИскандер пишет:
После этой посадки все разрабатываемые одноразовые носители стали на корню устаревшими. И это прямо относится к Союз-5.
Любой метановый одноразовый носитель выглядит просто нонсенс!

ЦитироватьOleg пишет:

Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:

ЦитироватьOleg пишет:

не знал что само NASA строит РН, может том должно быть ULA, или другие производители РН?

Цитироватьilan пишет:

ЦитироватьСергей пишет:
... Жалко не видно траектории захода на посадку...

Вот здесь:
 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/679137936416329728

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Если Маск докажет, что многоразовость экономически эффективна, то ему надо будет поставить памятник при жизни.

Что будет являться доказательством?
Повторный пуск той же ступени сойдёт?
Или если станет брать за запуск на ГСО меньше союза?

Когда 2 пуска Фалькона-9 на ГСО на одной и той же 1-ой ступени будут не дороже 2-х пусков Союзов-2 с примерно одинаковой по массе ПН.
Повторный пуск той же ступени будет для Маска только еще одним шагом к этой цели.

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

Деньги сэкономлены и не важно на каком пуске - на ГСО, НОО или отлетной.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В.   пишет:
Если Маск докажет, что многоразовость экономически эффективна, то ему надо будет поставить памятник при жизни.

Что будет являться доказательством?
Повторный пуск той же ступени сойдёт?
Или если станет брать за запуск на ГСО меньше союза?

ЦитироватьVeganin пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Если Маск докажет, что многоразовость экономически эффективна, то ему надо будет поставить памятник при жизни.

Что будет являться доказательством?
Повторный пуск той же ступени сойдёт?
Или если станет брать за запуск на ГСО меньше союза?

Когда 2 пуска Фалькона-9 на ГСО на одной и той же 1-ой ступени будут не дороже 2-х пусков Союзов-2 с примерно одинаковой по массе ПН.
Повторный пуск той же ступени будет для Маска только еще одним шагом к этой цели.

На мой взгляд, даже только двухкратное использование 1 ступени уже подтвердит экономическую целесообразность многоразовости от Маска. И почему только на ГСО ? Деньги сэкономлены и не важно на каком пуске - на ГСО, НОО или отлетной.
В любом случае команда Маска дала пищу для размышления локомотивам ракетостроения  :)  Уже это - огромный плюс.

Цитироватьvissarion пишет:

ЦитироватьДмитрий В. пишет:
Если Маск докажет, что многоразовость экономически эффективна, то ему надо будет поставить памятник при жизни.

Что будет являться доказательством?
Повторный пуск той же ступени сойдёт?
Или если станет брать за запуск на ГСО меньше союза?

Цитироватьnapalm пишет:
Маск и есть локомотив

Цитироватьvlad7308 пишет:
Даже по текущим ценам - ибо они у SpaceX и так хорошие, зачем снижать цены, если потребителя они устраивают?