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Тематические разделы => Пилотируемые полеты => Тема начата: Космос-3794 от 12.10.2011 11:16:02

Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Космос-3794 от 12.10.2011 11:16:02
Boeing завершает цикл аэродинамических испытаний уменьшенной модели (1:14) капсулы CST-100, проводимых с 17 сентября в центре Эймса (NASA).

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http://www.boeing.com/Features/2011/10/bds_cst100_windtunnel_10_10_11.html
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 31.12.2011 19:04:15
Кстати говоря. На последних переговорах между РККЭ и Боингом (которые кстати были про сортир) Боинг предложил делать ТЗП его аппарата в новом автоклаве РККЭ.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 31.12.2011 20:57:37
Ооо, поздравляю! Соглашайтесь. :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 31.12.2011 20:16:13
ЦитатаОоо, поздравляю! Соглашайтесь. :)
Не вопрос. Единственный нюанс - должна быть свободная площадь чтоб не делать ТЗП ПТКНП
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 31.12.2011 21:30:44
А так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 31.12.2011 20:47:55
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 31.12.2011 21:54:52
А не всё ли равно, на чём деньги зарабатывать? :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 31.12.2011 21:02:49
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Можно конечно. Но тогда вопрос - если мы делаем свое у себя и дешево то пусть конкурент делает на стороне и дорого.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 31.12.2011 21:05:43
ЦитатаА не всё ли равно, на чём деньги зарабатывать? :wink:
Это кому как. Мне например не все равно. Про других - не скажу.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 31.12.2011 22:15:17
Опасаетесь конкуренции "Союзам"? Но смотрите: космические корабли они делать будут в любом случае. И, однозначно, будут отказываться от наших услуг по доставке экипажей на МКС. Так что, суя им палки в колёса, мы не выиграем - они же могут и сами заказать в Германии такой же автоклав. А так, хотя размен и не равноценный, всё равно, какая-никакая, а денежка.

А я ещё хочу спросить: а как там с блоком ДМ для "Атласа", подвижки какие есть?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 31.12.2011 21:38:38
ЦитатаА не всё ли равно, на чём деньги зарабатывать? :wink:
Нет.
Видете ли ...
РККЭ - немного не та площадка где работавют те кому похер.
Собсно я. Вместо того чтобы иметь ежемесячно полтинник на РККЭ имел бы  стольник-двухсотку в банке.
Так что сложный вопрос.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 31.12.2011 22:36:30
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Можно конечно. Но тогда вопрос - если мы делаем свое у себя и дешево то пусть конкурент делает на стороне и дорого.
Лев, за конкурента - не беспокойтесь.

Только вот почему вы не можете делать себе по себестоимости, а конкуренту - по рыночно оправданной цене? Тогда часть своих денег конкурент будет платить вам.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 31.12.2011 22:39:13
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Потому что иначе они сами её сделают (найдут у кого), и примерно в те же сроки. А разница в цене относительно общего уровня затрат в любом случае погоды не делает.

А так есть возможность получить доход и опыт, не исключено что заодно и новые знания (или возможности).
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Agent от 01.01.2012 14:26:39
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Потому что иначе они сами её сделают (найдут у кого), и примерно в те же сроки. А разница в цене относительно общего уровня затрат в любом случае погоды не делает.

А так есть возможность получить доход и опыт, не исключено что заодно и новые знания (или возможности).
Боинг просто пытается минимизовать расходы.
Своих автоклавов (многие из которых 9и метровые) у него завались. Но все заняты выпеканием Дримлайнеров.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 01.01.2012 06:09:18
Цитата
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ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Потому что иначе они сами её сделают (найдут у кого), и примерно в те же сроки. А разница в цене относительно общего уровня затрат в любом случае погоды не делает.

А так есть возможность получить доход и опыт, не исключено что заодно и новые знания (или возможности).
Боинг просто пытается минимизовать расходы.
Своих автоклавов (многие из которых 9и метровые) у него завались. Но все заняты выпеканием Дримлайнеров.
Ясное дело что Боинг пытается минимизировать свои расходы и что своих автоклавов у Боинга есть по самое немогу.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 01.01.2012 07:01:48
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Можно конечно. Но тогда вопрос - если мы делаем свое у себя и дешево то пусть конкурент делает на стороне и дорого.
Лев, за конкурента - не беспокойтесь.

Только вот почему вы не можете делать себе по себестоимости, а конкуренту - по рыночно оправданной цене? Тогда часть своих денег конкурент будет платить вам.
А вот и удод валерич нарисовался. Знаешь удод -вали отсель пока тебе не дали в рыло причем конкретно.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 01.01.2012 07:02:56
И запомни одну простую штуку. Ты - не конкурент. Ты - удод.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: avmich от 01.01.2012 17:50:49
ЦитатаА вот и удод валерич нарисовался. Знаешь удод -вали отсель пока тебе не дали в рыло причем конкретно.

Ох, Лев, как хорошо на форуме было без таких Ваших реплик. Вы бы поменяли, что ли, тон? Вполне можно общаться без оскорблений даже без согласия с собеседником по всем вопросам. А то форум НК выглядит из-за такого языка как помойка.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 01.01.2012 14:38:35
Цитата
ЦитатаА вот и удод валерич нарисовался. Знаешь удод -вали отсель пока тебе не дали в рыло причем конкретно.

Ох, Лев, как хорошо на форуме было без таких Ваших реплик. Вы бы поменяли, что ли, тон? Вполне можно общаться без оскорблений даже без согласия с собеседником по всем вопросам. А то форум НК выглядит из-за такого языка как помойка.
Ок уважаемый avmich.
Все понял проникся и уже стою в очереди на запись в уважаемые ангелы.
Однако очередь в ангелы длинновата. Боюсь не достою и схожу за пивом.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 02.01.2012 02:04:21
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Потому что иначе они сами её сделают (найдут у кого), и примерно в те же сроки. А разница в цене относительно общего уровня затрат в любом случае погоды не делает.

А так есть возможность получить доход и опыт, не исключено что заодно и новые знания (или возможности).

Вот! И я на это намекаю. Флагман дополнительную денежку заработает, а у Родины повысится доля высокотехнологичной продукции в экспорте. А то уже задрала оппозиция - всё тычет, что мы только нефть и газ продаём. А тут - ещё и композиты. :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 02.01.2012 05:01:26
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Цитата
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ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Потому что иначе они сами её сделают (найдут у кого), и примерно в те же сроки. А разница в цене относительно общего уровня затрат в любом случае погоды не делает.

А так есть возможность получить доход и опыт, не исключено что заодно и новые знания (или возможности).
Боинг просто пытается минимизовать расходы.
Своих автоклавов (многие из которых 9и метровые) у него завались. Но все заняты выпеканием Дримлайнеров.
Ясное дело что Боинг пытается минимизировать свои расходы и что своих автоклавов у Боинга есть по самое немогу.
Вот учитывая все это, отказ от заказа Боинга очень подходит под поговорку: "Назло бабушке отморожу уши".

Да, Боинг, безусловно, минимизирует свои расходы. Но мы заинтересованы в увеличении высокотехнологичной продукции, в том числе и на экспорт, так что это пример взаимовыгодной сделки. И этого вопроса для любой рыночной фирмы просто не существует.

З.Ы.
Кстати. это отличный пример коммерциализации космической промышленности.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 02.01.2012 06:23:13
http://twitter.com/#!/elonmusk 30 dec
ЦитатаSpaceX has Boeing, Lockheed, Europe (Ariane) and Russia (Proton/Soyuz) near checkmate in rocket technology. End game is all about China.
Все, Боинг может сворачивать свою косм.программу  :lol: Элон сказал "на следующем ходу шах и мат" :lol:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 02.01.2012 09:59:38
Ну если он про полеты астронавтов, то насчет нас он прав, вылетаем при появлении 1го национального корабля, пофиг чьего.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: avmich от 02.01.2012 20:02:17
Цитатаhttp://twitter.com/#!/elonmusk 30 dec
ЦитатаSpaceX has Boeing, Lockheed, Europe (Ariane) and Russia (Proton/Soyuz) near checkmate in rocket technology. End game is all about China.
Все, Боинг может сворачивать свою косм.программу  :lol: Элон сказал "на следующем ходу шах и мат" :lol:

Мне кажется, Элон Маск - что-то вроде современной версии мини-фон Брауна - или Королёва - в США, в том смысле, что он не стесняется в выражении амбиций, и подкрепляет их результатами, которых давненько не видели старожилы. Выглядит забавно - а учитывая положительный эффект СпейсЭкс на космополитику, это всё вызывает в Штатах реакцию поощрения - свой, мол, парень, ставим на него, он уже показал и продолжает показывать некоторые успехи - так что, может, покажет и ещё.

Доказывать - как принято делать в российском классическом космосообществе - что технически Элон пока проигрывает, скажем, даигателям Протона 60-х годов - плюс модернизации, конечно - или экономически - Р-7 50-х годов, опять, конечно, плюс модернизации - дело, в общем, даже и не очень нужное. С одной стороны, реальные результаты у Элона есть. С другой, удастся ли ему - в современных терминах - раскачать лодку достаточно, чтобы возникли новые классы ПН, новые традиции ценообразования и работы с заказчиками, новые методы разработки РН как стандартные и т.п. - пока что надо посмотреть. Конструктивная критика СпейсЭкс - в дополнение к постоянным заявлениям Маска "мы превосходим Китай - и всех остальных - по дешевизне запусков" - вполне имеется.

Несомненно - при всех бравых заявлениях Маска - желаю ему творческих успехов в новом году на ниве технико-экономического совершенствования РН и ПН :) .
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Лютич от 02.01.2012 14:27:54
Общался с англичанами - они очень радовались, что европейцы заставили их слезть с Фалкона. Иначе плакала бы их частотная заявка.

Текущие манеры Маска по части переносов пусков несовместимы с правилами бизнеса в области телекома.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Wild Cat от 02.01.2012 15:30:49
ЦитатаТекущие манеры Маска по части переносов пусков несовместимы с правилами бизнеса в области телекома.

Обсуждать манеры Маска можно пока:
1. Он не станет первым американским "извозчиком" по доставке грузов на МКС после Шаттлов
2. Он не станет первым американским "извозчиком" по доставке людей на МКС после Шаттлов
3. Не полетит Falcon Heavy альтернатив которой по грузоподъемности на рынке (пока) нет и неизвестно когда они появятся.

А с Falcon Heavy вообще интересная картина получается... Притом что испытания - в следующем году (зная расписание Маска может и на 13 год съехать, но тем не менее - ни у кого ничего подобного нет). Хотя и не в ту тему.
А в тему - CST-100 может и будет летать к МКС только изза того, что делает это все Боинг и, по сути, это - гос.контора (поддерживаемая НАСА). Все остальные - хорошо "если", а вот пилотируемый Dragon и CST-100 будут по-любому IMHO
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий В. от 02.01.2012 16:29:01
Цитата
ЦитатаТекущие манеры Маска по части переносов пусков несовместимы с правилами бизнеса в области телекома.

Обсуждать манеры Маска можно пока:
1. Он не станет первым американским "извозчиком" по доставке грузов на МКС после Шаттлов
2. Он не станет первым американским "извозчиком" по доставке людей на МКС после Шаттлов
3. Не полетит Falcon Heavy альтернатив которой по грузоподъемности на рынке (пока) нет и неизвестно когда они появятся.


С таким подходом Маск "слона не продаст". Переносы испытаний Дрэгона вполне понятны - все же пилотируемая система. Но что же мешает проводить запуски коммерческих КА? Все эти бесконечные отсрочки вкупе с монотонным ростом цен наводят на мысли, что у Маска элементарно не хватает производственных мощностей для изготовления нужного количества ракет. И чтобы расшить это "узкое место" ему непременно придется делать большие капвложения, что еще больше повысит стоимость предлагаемых им услуг.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 02.01.2012 18:10:16
Однако странно - он вобще ракеты то производит? Сколько он изготовил ракет после крайнего пуска?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий В. от 02.01.2012 17:13:02
ЦитатаОднако странно - он вобще ракеты то производит? Сколько он изготовил ракет после крайнего пуска?

Да уж год с лишком с крайнего пуска прошел. Наверное, весь склад ракетами забит :wink:  :D
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 02.01.2012 18:18:54
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ЦитатаОднако странно - он вобще ракеты то производит? Сколько он изготовил ракет после крайнего пуска?

Да уж год с лишком с крайнего пуска прошел. Наверное, весь склад ракетами забит :wink:  :D
Это все русские виноваты со своим металлоломом... :evil:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 03.01.2012 05:54:04
ЦитатаОднако странно - он вобще ракеты то производит? Сколько он изготовил ракет после крайнего пуска?
Нет поточного производства, людей бросают с аврала на аврал. Заложили пять Драгонов, собирают. Наверное два доделают, три задвинут в угол полусобранными и ломанутся обратно, делать Фальконы. Я об этом догадываюсь на основании заявлений Элона а том как он "приказал начать изготовление того, приказал начать изготовление сего", а о том как свернули программу Falcon 1.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 02.01.2012 20:58:29
Цитата
ЦитатаОднако странно - он вобще ракеты то производит? Сколько он изготовил ракет после крайнего пуска?
Нет поточного производства, людей бросают с аврала на аврал. Заложили пять Драгонов, собирают. Наверное два доделают, три задвинут в угол полусобранными и ломанутся обратно, делать Фальконы. Я об этом догадываюсь на основании заявлений Элона а том как он "приказал начать изготовление того, приказал начать изготовление сего", а о том как свернули программу Falcon 1.
О, знакомая картина... SpaseX становится нормальной космической фирмой... :D
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 02.01.2012 21:59:30
ЦитатаНет поточного производства.....
Да, пока очевидно, что это так. Думаю, что серийное производство Фальконов у Маска начнется в этом году, после начала полетов к МКС.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 02.01.2012 22:03:37
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ЦитатаНет поточного производства.....
Да, пока очевидно, что это так. Думаю, что серийное производство Фальконов у Маска начнется в этом году, после начала полетов к МКС.
2 полета в год.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 02.01.2012 21:27:42
Все так боятся Маска, что готовы обсуждать его даже в топике про CST-100  :twisted:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 02.01.2012 22:42:04
ЦитатаВсе так боятся Маска, что готовы обсуждать его даже в топике про CST-100  :twisted:
Кстати - а почему с Орбиталом все намного спокойнее?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 02.01.2012 19:51:37
Цитата
ЦитатаВсе так боятся Маска, что готовы обсуждать его даже в топике про CST-100  :twisted:
Кстати - а почему с Орбиталом все намного спокойнее?
Потому что на Лебеде в принципе невозможно возить людей  :lol:
Хотя про CST-100 тоже нет громких новостей  :roll: кроме обещания одноходового шаха и мата
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 02.01.2012 22:59:58
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаВсе так боятся Маска, что готовы обсуждать его даже в топике про CST-100  :twisted:
Кстати - а почему с Орбиталом все намного спокойнее?
Потому что на Лебеде в принципе невозможно возить людей  :lol:
Хотя про CST-100 тоже нет громких новостей  :roll: кроме обещания одноходового шаха и мата
Так и с Драконом никто ничего ранее 2017 ничего даже не обещает.
Или котируется именно потенциальная возможность ?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 02.01.2012 20:10:57
Впечатление от статьи в Попмеханике. Про капсулы и шаттлики пишут:
"Dream Chaser and Boeing's CST ".  А про полет в 12г Лебедя на Антаресе нет.
Для пипла главное чтобы КА был похож на Аполло (или шаттл).
Американскому народу неинтересно читать про доставку еды, салфеток и белья, если грузы возят не на капсуле.  :lol:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 03.01.2012 10:00:44
Не, "пишут" говорить мало. Кто пишет? Рэнд? Я с ним можно сказать почти что лично знаком, ввиду того, как он один раз меня обозвал "moron" по поводу моего предпочтения автомобилей с автоматикой (и все равно у меня теперь джип с ручными зеркалами, стеклоподъемниками и замками, но с коробкой 42RLE). По-моему, лучше было бы сказать "Рэнд пишет". Чтобы была ясна позициональность.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 03.01.2012 01:03:19
Меня у Боинга смущает один нюанс. Там одна РН стоит в 10 раз дороже.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дм. Журко от 03.01.2012 21:13:11
ЦитатаНу если он про полеты астронавтов, то насчет нас он прав, вылетаем при появлении 1го национального корабля, пофиг чьего.

Так просто эту недомолвку не понять. Где Протон, ARIAN, китайцы, а где астронавты.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 03.01.2012 21:19:33
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ЦитатаНу если он про полеты астронавтов, то насчет нас он прав, вылетаем при появлении 1го национального корабля, пофиг чьего.

Так просто эту недомолвку не понять. Где Протон, ARIAN, китайцы, а где астронавты.
А это не имеет значения. Но Вы - урод Жирко ничего не знаете. Если Боинг и полетит - то в четком графике помежду других кораблей. Но урод Жирко про это ничего не узнает потому как его выкинут намного раньше.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дм. Журко от 03.01.2012 21:31:36
Какие всё-таки кадры тут. Заглядение. Хочется обратить внимание очарованного Виницкого.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Зловредный от 07.01.2012 11:57:08
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Чтобы привязать его к себе, чтобы он от вас зависел. Нет?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 07.01.2012 20:43:38
Можно и так. Но я лишь предлагал денежку подзаработать. Разумеется, не в ущерб собственным программам.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 07.01.2012 20:33:06
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаА так, чтобы делать ТЗП и для "пятака", и для боинговской поделки - нельзя?
Теоретически можно. Но вопрос - а зачем параллельно с ТЗП ПТКНП делать ТЗП конкуренту?
Чтобы привязать его к себе, чтобы он от вас зависел. Нет?
Вот как раз это оочень вряд ли.
Боинг же тоже не вчера родился, и партнёрские отношения выстроит так, чтобы исключить даже малейшие поползновения в эту сторону.
У него возможностей хватает, это не СНГ...
Потому я такую идею даже не упоминал. Хотя именно это первым пришло в голову.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Зловредный от 07.01.2012 23:17:28
Я вполне могу ошибаться. Но, мне кажется, ракетно-космическая отрасль России в последние годы вполне успешно это делает. Не торопясь, тихой сапой... :)
И я не имею в виду привязать так, чтобы этой привязью потом шантажировать. Просто быть выгодным и удобным партнёром. Без которого в принципе можно бы и обойтись... Но вот только это будет чуть менее удобно... А значит, с этим партнёром в чём-то будет нужно считаться... :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 10.01.2012 20:17:09
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/ccts/docs/CCDev2%20Boeing%20CST-100%20Overview.pdf

(http://s018.radikal.ru/i516/1201/e5/294081419e79.jpg)
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(http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1201/2a/aa47bdf32b2b.jpg)
(http://s018.radikal.ru/i519/1201/c3/aa94f5c30996.jpg)
(http://s018.radikal.ru/i501/1201/73/124719377622.jpg)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 11.01.2012 06:02:01
Обалдеть, смотрят вперед без перископа. Впрочем им легко без БО.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 10.01.2012 21:52:15
Подписываюсь под четверых. Будет мньше - я в пролете
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 10.01.2012 19:07:27
Поменялись баки ДУ,  СУС, Пилотский иллюминатор
Февраль (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7331/febr2011.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7331/febr2011.jpg) и август (http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1509/august2011.th.jpg) (http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1509/august2011.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 10.01.2012 22:13:32
Это чудо хочет садиться на сушу
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: RemArk от 10.01.2012 23:31:41
ЦитатаОбалдеть, смотрят вперед без перископа. Впрочем им легко без БО.

Так и Аполлон прекрасно без перископа обходился и Джемени и на ТКС его не планировалось.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 10.01.2012 21:02:34
Цитата
ЦитатаОбалдеть, смотрят вперед без перископа. Впрочем им легко без БО.

Так и Аполлон прекрасно без перископа обходился и Джемени и на ТКС его не планировалось.
Край окна находится прямо около боковой стенки - пользоваться им будет очень неудобно.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8482/ccdev220boeing20cst1002.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 10.01.2012 21:38:05
Сравнительные размеры КК
(http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/6148/1235r.th.jpg) (http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/6148/1235r.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 11.01.2012 00:39:47
ЦитатаТак и Аполлон прекрасно без перископа обходился и Джемени и на ТКС его не планировалось.
И даже Шаттлы! :)
 В итоге с перископом один Союз.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Виницкий от 11.01.2012 00:42:35
Зато Союз, всегда имел фору при неудачной стыковке в виде БО :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 11.01.2012 00:48:54
ЦитатаЗато Союз, всегда имел фору при неудачной стыковке в виде БО :)
Эт точно. Три метра жизни. :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 11.01.2012 06:30:43
Продолжая тему сельдей в банке: (февральский вариант)
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2774/cst100feb2011.jpg) (http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6067/cst100feb2011b.jpg)
Если поставить Казбеки - будет просторнее...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 11.01.2012 09:08:59
Получается что Боинг вслед за АTV создает КК с дыркой в ПАО  :roll:
Можно использовать как trunk, или вставить туннель с СУ...
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Большой от 11.01.2012 11:21:27
такие бы картинки по ПТК НП :P
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 12.01.2012 06:19:29
ЦитатаЕсли поставить Казбеки - будет просторнее...
Забавно, я тоже об этом подумал. Но нет, не хотят.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 17.01.2012 15:18:54
http://www.spacenews.com/profiles/120116-michael-leinbach.html
ЦитатаMon, 16 January, 2012
Michael Leinbach, Director of Human Spaceflight Operations, United Launch Alliance
By Irene Klotz

After nearly three decades with NASA, including the past 11 years as space shuttle launch director at the Kennedy Space Center (KSC), Fla., Michael Leinbach said goodbye to what was left of his team and turned in his badge Nov. 30, four months after Atlantis returned fr om the shuttle program's 135th and final flight.

"What they had lined up for me after shuttle was not going to be exciting work for me," says Leinbach, who was asked by NASA to join a newly created ground processing directorate at KSC that will support a variety of launch systems.

Instead, Leinbach, 58, begins a new job Jan. 16 overseeing human space operations for United Launch Alliance (ULA), the Lockheed Martin-Boeing joint venture that builds and flies Atlas 5 and Delta 4 rockets, primarily for the U.S. government.

ULA has some new partners in the wings. It is the designated launch provider for Boeing, Sierra Nevada Corp. and other companies developing space taxis for NASA and commercial customers.

Leinbach spoke with Space News correspondent Irene Klotz in Titusville, Fla.

What is your new job?

I will be ULA's director of human spaceflight operations based at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, working to provide the commercial crew access providers with safe and reliable launch vehicles -- Atlas principally, maybe Delta. It's a great job for an ops guy like me.

Are you going to have to wear a tie?

I hope not.

Are you excited about this?

Oh yeah. It's real good stuff. I've always wished the commercial providers good luck and hope they succeed. I have an opportunity to help -- at least I think I can help. My big thing has always been the lack of redundancy in crew access to space when we shut shuttle down. It was never anything against the commercial guys at all.

What did you learn at NASA that you want to bring to ULA's operation?

The psyche that goes with launch day, just making sure everything is right and that it's not a purely technical go/no-go decision to launch. There's an aspect to it that is almost emotional. You have to have that feeling that we're good to go that day. You don't get that unless you've been in that business for a while. My job will be to try to instill that gut check whether we're ready to go for launch of a human being or not.

What will you be doing?

It's a combination. I'll be overseeing their policies and plans development for human spaceflight, launch pad upgrades -- we're going to have to put in an egress system -- and working with the team that is going to be man-rating the rockets. It's getting the human launch background into their operations because it's so different than cargo launches.

Are you confident ULA will be a player in NASA's commercial crew program?

The Atlas vehicle has one of the highest -- if not the highest -- success rates in the country and in the world. Fr om a ULA perspective, they feel confident that they're going to be in the running to be the launcher for whoever gets the commercial crew contracts. SpaceX, of course, has their own launcher, but all the other ones don't, and so they have to ride on something. ULA feels confident they're going to provide those rides.

So ULA seems like it is in good position no matter what happens. Would you agree?

I think so. If the administration changes policy again that could throw everything into a loop. If the administration decides they only want one commercial crew provider from the United States and that's SpaceX, then that would be different. But here again, we as a country ought to have redundancy, as well as backing up the Russians. In my mind, it's not just the two countries being redundant to each other, it's having redundancy on the American side too.

How has life been after NASA?

It's different. I miss the people a lot. I miss the shuttle launch work a lot, but shuttle is over. The work out there nowadays is just not as much fun; it's just not as exciting. It's just a fact. I need a challenge. I need to go out and do stuff.

Do you think there will be people launching from the United States again?

Oh, absolutely. I don't think the country will give that up. I think it ought to come to a national debate and that hasn't happened. The policy involving NASA has always been kind of behind-the-scenes. NASA had become almost like a political toy, a pawn to play with. I think there needs to be a national debate about space policy. I've always been an advocate of having a national space policy and sticking to it, one that has some longevity. These systems, these programs we put together are so long-term and expensive and complex that you can't keep changing them or you find yourselves in the situation that we have.

You mean a policy that supersedes the cycles of politics and elections?

Yes. We need to figure out what we want to do, and if the answer, by the way, is that we don't want to, or that we cannot afford to, put Americans on orbit on American rockets, I wouldn't like that answer, but I would accept that answer because it would be the result of the debate. I don't think it would go that way, but if it did, then we would all have to say, "OK, we've had the debate. This is wh ere we're headed."

What would be your vision?

Leinbach speaking, we need to set, as a long-, long-, long-term strategy, colonization because eventually we're going to need to get off this planet. The population is growing, pollution is growing, all those things are real and eventually we are going to get to the point wh ere our planet will be really, really taxed to support another however many billions of people who will be here. We've seen the population double in our lifetime, maybe triple. It's going to happen again in the not-too-distant future. I don't know that the Earth is sustainable at twice the number of people. How do you deal with that? One way is go colonize.

How would you do that?

There are steppingstones. One of them is to remain on orbit, learn how to do that for real, and we're doing that well with the space station. I believe the next logical step is a colony on the Moon, start small obviously. Learn how to live off the Moon. Go to those craters that have the ice and turn the ice into water and fuels. Do all those things you have to do when you're away from home forever, but do it on the Moon because you're only three days away. I believe Mars is a logical step later.

So do you think the people who go will be speaking English?

That's part of the national debate. Do we want them to be or not? We go to the Olympics as a country. We don't go to come in second place. We go to win. Do we want to win the space race? Do we want to be number one or not? If you ask me, I'll say obviously yes, but if we have the debate and the answer is no, OK.

Do you think the model would be more like the international space station partnership?

If we do this colonization, it isn't going to be just Americans. This is the world, the planet deciding, with hopefully American leadership, but the planet deciding that, "Hey man, we've got to go think seriously about this." Then the practical kicks in, the finances of it. International cooperation -- that's the way it's going to be. I don't see any one country doing anything like this by itself, for gosh sakes.

Do you think NASA's best days are over?

No, I don't think so. When I hired into NASA 27 years ago, I was the bright-eyed, enthusiastic 31-year-old and when I left there were people hiring in and you talk to them and they were all excited and had the big smile and they say, "Yay, I work for NASA." You still get that enthusiasm, and with that comes great things. It's a change in the direction of NASA. It's going from an operations organization with the shuttle and station to more of a research and development agency, coming back to the roots of NASA. You're going to see great things come out of NASA, but it won't be the operations agency that it turned into.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 27.01.2012 15:44:06
Из темы про Дракон
ЦитатаТем не менее, МКС с повестки дня не снята
ЦитатаAbout the Orion MPCV
Capability to be a backup system for International Space Station cargo and crew delivery
Цитата
ЦитатаСлово "Возможность" нужно переводить так "А если Дракон не будет готов, можно будет летать на Орионе" :lol:
cst-100 для полетов к мкс тоже выглядит лучше ориона.
Потому что cst-100 точно будет дешевле Ориона :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Boo от 27.01.2012 19:57:08
ЦитатаПотому что cst-100 точно будет дешевле Ориона
И, конечно, надёжнее при входе в атмосферу на второй космической?  :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 27.01.2012 19:58:18
ЦитатаПотому что cst-100 точно будет дешевле Ориона :wink:

что угодно будет дешевле ориона. (шепотом - наверно даже шаттл) :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 27.01.2012 19:59:48
Цитата
ЦитатаПотому что cst-100 точно будет дешевле Ориона
И, конечно, надёжнее при входе в атмосферу на второй космической?  :wink:

Цитатаcst-100 для полетов к мкс тоже выглядит лучше ориона.

 :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Boo от 27.01.2012 21:09:35
Apollo13
Отож и не сравнивайте карандаш сами знаете с чем.
"Орион" изначально позиционируется для дальнего космоса, МКС для него - это так, мимоходом.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 27.01.2012 18:29:16
Обсуждалось вот это:
ЦитатаAbout the Orion MPCV
Capability to be a backup system for International Space Station cargo and crew delivery
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 27.01.2012 21:37:32
Цитата
ЦитатаПотому что cst-100 точно будет дешевле Ориона
И, конечно, надёжнее при входе в атмосферу на второй космической?  :wink:
а что, при возвращении с МКС обязательна вторая космическая?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 27.01.2012 21:43:45
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаПотому что cst-100 точно будет дешевле Ориона
И, конечно, надёжнее при входе в атмосферу на второй космической?  :wink:
а что, при возвращении с МКС обязательна вторая космическая?

так орион может отчалить от мкс, забраться повыше и бульк... а cst-100 так слабо? :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 27.01.2012 22:45:37
Цитата
Цитатаа что, при возвращении с МКС обязательна вторая космическая?
так орион может отчалить от мкс, забраться повыше и бульк... а cst-100 так слабо? :)
Может. Для испытательного полета - вполне оправдано, но тогда зачем МКС? Для обычного полета - возможна, но тогда опять таки, зачем МКС?

З.Ы.
Кстати, Маск собирался испытывать Дракон (возможно специальной модификации) на возможность возвращения со второй космической. Не сразу, но в перспективе - для полетов к Луне.
Хотя сама Лунная Программа его не волновала.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Потусторонний от 27.01.2012 19:55:41
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5430/elmowithboeingcst100moc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/elmowithboeingcst100moc.jpg/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Виницкий от 27.01.2012 22:59:43
ЦитатаХотя сама Лунная Программа его не волновала.

Цитата"Getting to the moon in 10 years is definitely doable," says SpaceX vice president Chris Thompson.

http://www.spacex.com/media.php?page=42

А вообще, доставка на Луну человека, была целью, заявленной при создании SpaceX.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 28.01.2012 00:42:16
ЦитатаА вообще, доставка на Луну человека, была целью, заявленной при создании SpaceX.
Ответ здесь: http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=880590#880590
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Sharicoff от 23.02.2012 01:47:01
http://yfrog.com/z/kjnt8ypj

Лори Гарвер: In the Boeing CST-100 capsule with Chris Ferguson
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 10.03.2012 12:23:07
ЦитатаCommentary
The Difference Between Boeing And SpaceX[/size]

by michael belfiore

At a Southern California YPO meeting in February, I moderated a discussion between Virgin Galactic's Will Pomerantz and Boeing's John Schindler.

As Director of Program Integration for Boeing's Commercial Crew Program, Schindler is one of the managers in charge of Boeing's spaceship-in-development, the CST-100.

The ship is one of those competing to replace the retired Space Shuttle for getting crew and cargo to the International Space Station. Schindler characterized the ship as a no-frills, get-up-and-get-down vehicle using proven technologies.

"When we looked at the requirement set from our customer [NASA], and they said 'Well, we want something that's safe and affordable, cost-effective, reliable,' we knew these technologies already existed. We already knew the blunt capsule that we saw on Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, that the Russians use, are proven technologies. So we went with that to provide them what they want. They didn't want a Cadillac, they really just wanted a minivan to get back and forth."
 .....
The company certainly has the wherewithal to build and launch this system, but it is utterly dependent on NASA to make progress, and there's the rub. "We're in a design phase right now," Schindler admitted. SpaceX, on the other hand, is now in flight test, with its first docking with the Space Station planned for April.
http://moonandback.com/2012/03/06/the-difference-between-boeing-and-spacex/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: NSF от 10.03.2012 09:30:41
Цитата"We've designed a space capsule that looks very similar to what the old capsules looked like. It actually can carry seven people. It kind of looks like a minivan--you got three [astronauts] on top and four on bottom. We have a pilot and a copilot, but it will fly autonomously. It will have an autonomous docking to the space station. We'll put it on top of a rocket. Right now for our test program we've chosen a very reliable rocket. It's never launched humans into space, but it's flown over 100 times successfully, and that's an Atlas V."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 10.03.2012 12:48:44
Цитатаit's flown over 100 times successfully, and that's an Atlas V.
:) ню-ню...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: NSF от 10.03.2012 10:13:42
guess "over 100% successfully" :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 14.03.2012 18:18:06
Сегодня CST-100 прошел т.н. Preliminary Design Review, т.е. примерно защиту эскизного проекта, пожалуй. Теперь все, начинается детальное проектирование. Заметим, что это не мешает уже отрабатывать агрегаты, только вчера был очередной прожиг репрезентативного двигателя САС.

источник:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2169
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: sychbird от 14.03.2012 09:58:42
ЦитатаСегодня CST-100 прошел т.н. Preliminary Design Review, т.е. примерно защиту эскизного проекта, пожалуй. Теперь все, начинается детальное проектирование. Заметим, что это не мешает уже отрабатывать агрегаты, только вчера был очередной прожиг репрезентативного двигателя САС.

источник:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2169
Я что-то не въехал в использование термина "репрезентативного" двигателя. Вроде в исходнике такого не нашел?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 14.03.2012 07:14:53
Цитата
ЦитатаСегодня CST-100 прошел т.н. Preliminary Design Review, т.е. примерно защиту эскизного проекта, пожалуй. Теперь все, начинается детальное проектирование. Заметим, что это не мешает уже отрабатывать агрегаты, только вчера был очередной прожиг репрезентативного двигателя САС.

источник:
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2169
Я что-то не въехал в использование термина "репрезентативного" двигателя. Вроде в исходнике такого не нашел?
ЦитатаThe PDR included representatives from Boeing, NASA, the Federal Aviation Administration and independent consultants. They examined all milestones accomplished in the development of the integrated system design since the Delta System Definition review that was conducted in May 2011, under NASA's Commercial Crew Development Space Act Agreement.
В PDR "репрезентативно" все.  :wink: И люди и кони
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 14.03.2012 13:33:41
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=space&id=news/asd/2012/03/13/05.xml&headline=PWR%20Analyzing%20CST-100%20Abort%20Engine%20Tests
ЦитатаPWR Analyzing CST-100 Abort Engine Tests

Mar 13, 2012

By Guy Norris

LOS ANGELES -- Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne (PWR) is analyzing data from the first hot-fire tests of a development launch abort engine (LAE) for Boeing's CST-100 commercial crew vehicle.

The engine is a lighter, higher-performance evolution of the Bantam demonstration engine tested in March 2011 for the "pusher" launch abort system, a critical component of the planned transport. Unlike the tower-mounted tractor abort system used by Apollo and other programs, a pusher system propels a spacecraft toward safety if an abort occurs. Tractor systems are ejected after launch, but pusher systems remain with the vehicle to orbit, and the unused propellant can go toward other portions of the mission, developers say.

The initial hot-fire tests, conducted at the Polaris-operated Mojave Test Range north of Edwards AFB, Calif. on March 8-9, were completed with a 5.5-sec. run on March 9. Fueled by pressure-fed nitrogen tetroxide/monomethyl hydrazine, the LAE is treated with ablative materials in the nozzle, throat and injector. "The original Bantam had film-cooling, so that decreased performance. With ablatives, we don't have that," says Terry Lorier, PWR launch abort program manager.

The LAE's heritage goes back to the 1990s when it was originally launched as part of NASA's search for a super lightweight engine under the Fastrac program. A derivative of the Bantam was later developed by Rocketdyne as the RS-88 for use on Lockheed Martin's Pad Abort Demonstration vehicle. Powered by four RS-88s, this was designed as the abort system for NASA's Orbital Space Plane planned as part of the Space Launch Initiative Cycle 2 TA-10 program.

Although the RS-88 ran a series of 14 successful hot-fire tests, the program was later canceled. "When Boeing approached us on CST-100, we looked at our heritage programs to see what would be the most logical bridge program and had the lowest risk. We pulled the Bantam engine out of storage at NASA Marshall," Lorier says.

The Bantam engine was "heavyweight and not optimized for performance, but rather for cost. So to adopt it to this application we need to improve performance a little and reduce the weight. So this is an incremental test along the way," Lorier adds. "We'll take the data from these tests and the next step will be a flight-weight engine."

PWR was selected by Boeing to help design the CST-100 service module and integrated launch abort propulsion system under Boeing's Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) Space Act Agreement with NASA. As well as the four main LAE engines, the system includes orbital maneuvering/attitude control engines and reaction control thrusters. A preliminary design review (PDR) for the service module was passed in January and Boeing completed the overall CST-100 PDR in February.

Companies pursuing NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability initiative, the follow-up to the current CCDev 2 phase, are expected to submit bids by March 23.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 14.03.2012 09:50:39
(http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/9/cd0dac95-2bee-4f79-99c9-6dfc7fcaa2d8.Large.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 17.03.2012 22:47:12
Ещё фото (правда, давнее):
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/RS-88_test_firing.jpg/800px-RS-88_test_firing.jpg)

Оттуда же:
Цитата. . .
RS-88 development rocket engine is being test fired at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, in support of the Pad Abort Demonstration (PAD) test flights for NASA's Orbital Space Plane (OSP).
The tests could be instrumental in developing the first crew launch escape system in almost 30 years. Paving the way for a series of integrated PAD test flights, the engine tests support development of a system that could pull a crew safely away from danger during liftoff. A series of 16 hot fire tests of a 50,000-pound thrust RS-88 rocket engine were conducted, resulting in a total of 55 seconds of successful engine operation. The engine is being developed by the Rocketdyne Propulsion and Power unit of the Boeing Company.
 . . .
Date   1 December 2003
Грубый подсчёт говорит, что планируемая на CST-100 четвёрка таких движков съест тонну топлива быстрее, чем за 3 секунды.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 18.03.2012 13:42:19
ЦитатаЯ что-то не въехал в использование термина "репрезентативного" двигателя. Вроде в исходнике такого не нашел?
Да, виноват, это я наврал на основе того, что это не старый Бантам, который они тестировали до этого, а новый двигатель на его основе. Тут я и обрадовался. Но оказалось, что и он не репрезентативен (т.е. будут еще изменения).
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 19.03.2012 17:52:52
Концепт для CEV 2005 года.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 19.03.2012 23:49:32
ЦитатаКонцепт для CEV 2005 года.

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А почему Союзовско и без люка в ТЗП?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 20.03.2012 09:06:21
Еще и выводить под ГО, и САС мощнее надо...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 20.03.2012 05:36:24
ЦитатаЕще и выводить под ГО, и САС мощнее надо...
Констелешн однако :wink: www.astronautix.com/fam/cev.htm
(http://www.sg.hu/kep/2008_12/sg_2008_02_08.jpg)
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1269/zcevrvcm.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 20.03.2012 11:26:40
Спасибо, такую картинку ещё не видел. Конкурс CEV занимателен тем, что в нём принимало много участников.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 01.04.2012 00:17:57
Как на CST-100 будет реализована САС?

(http://space.skyrocket.de/img_lau/atlas-5-412__cst-100__1.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 01.04.2012 01:02:19
Нижняя жидкостная.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 01.04.2012 03:20:31
ЦитатаКак на CST-100 будет реализована САС?
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Там внизу четыре "петушка" для довыведения, маневрирования и торможения, заодно и LAS.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=869062#869062
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=907214#907214
ЦитатаГрубый подсчёт говорит, что планируемая на CST-100 четвёрка таких движков съест тонну топлива быстрее, чем за 3 секунды.

А где нибудь озвучена глубина дросселирования Bantamов?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 01.04.2012 14:29:46
Теперь понятно, хотя я так и подозревал. Оригинальное решение, позволит сэкономить деньги и время не создавая дополнительную классическую САС. А то, что при аварии двигатели прожорливы уже и не важно, топливо ведь все равно уже не пригодится, и не попадёт в воду.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 04.04.2012 08:55:47
У нас тут некий Крис Фергюсон твитнул, что был успешный сброс. Фамилия что-то знакомая...
https://twitter.com/Astro_Ferg/status/187216915188547585
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 00:11:47
ЦитатаТеперь понятно, хотя я так и подозревал. Оригинальное решение, позволит сэкономить деньги и время не создавая дополнительную классическую САС. А то, что при аварии двигатели прожорливы уже и не важно, топливо ведь все равно уже не пригодится, и не попадёт в воду.
Интересно, а если вообще не делать САС и положиться на то, что капсула не сгорит при падении ракеты на старт и не будет разрушена обломками ракеты.

 Наихудший случай это авария сразу после старта когда капсула не успеет раскрыть парашюты, но это относительно небольшой участок полёта, секунд 40-50 наверно.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.04.2012 00:33:09
Давайте снимем катапультные кресла со всех реактивных истребителей!
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 04.04.2012 00:36:00
ЦитатаКак на CST-100 будет реализована САС?

(http://space.skyrocket.de/img_lau/atlas-5-412__cst-100__1.jpg)
Что-то мне подсказывает что в итоге после многих метаний сделают таки классический твердотопливный столб.
У ПТКНП тоже проектно игрались с "нижней" САС.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 04.04.2012 09:39:56
ЦитатаДавайте снимем катапультные кресла со всех реактивных истребителей!
Дурацкая аналогия. Не раз уже было подсчитано, что например у Аполлона вероятность гибели экипажа на старте была ничтожной по сравнению с таковой за период всего полета. Шаттл летал без САС и процент потерь у него меньше, чем у Союза несмотря на 2 катастрофы. Ну и что тут сравнивать с истребителями? И кстати я лично летаю на самолете без катапультного сиденья, и даже с одним мотором. И что теперь? Рациональнее надо оценивать риски, и делать ракеты с парированием отказов.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 04.04.2012 09:42:28
ЦитатаЧто-то мне подсказывает что в итоге после многих метаний сделают таки классический твердотопливный столб.
У ПТКНП тоже проектно игрались с "нижней" САС.
Жидкостые двигатели компенсируют потерю по массе. Если бы гриффинский MLAS был жидкий, он бы победил. Да он даже победил бы и так, если бы не острый дефицит массы на Ares-I. Оттуда и все метания.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 00:46:24
ЦитатаДавайте снимем катапультные кресла со всех реактивных истребителей!
Реактивные истребители нужны для дела, а полёты людей в космос это область экстремальных затратных технологий.
 Обучение лётчика стоит дорого, его психологический комфорт это важная составная часть выполнения боевой задачи, а космонавты стоят дешевле даже ракеты на которой они летят, не говоря уже про космический корабль, и в космос летят по причине престижности этого занятия, которое хорошо оплачивается и обеспечивает карьерный рост в дальнейшем.

 Если бы гибель космонавтов не вызывала политического резонанса никто бы не возился с такими вещами как САС.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 04.04.2012 00:47:34
Цитата
ЦитатаЧто-то мне подсказывает что в итоге после многих метаний сделают таки классический твердотопливный столб.
У ПТКНП тоже проектно игрались с "нижней" САС.
Жидкостые двигатели компенсируют потерю по массе. Если бы гриффинский MLAS был жидкий, он бы победил. Да он даже победил бы и так, если бы не острый дефицит массы на Ares-I. Оттуда и все метания.
Может я и устарел но когда мне говорят про жидкостную САС мне хочется ответить что-то типа "пилите но не на жизнях космонавтов"
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 00:54:59
ЦитатаМожет я и устарел но когда мне говорят про жидкостную САС мне хочется ответить что-то типа "пилите но не на жизнях космонавтов"
Вы понимаете, что САС парирует редкую ситуацию, - если бы она не была редкой, то не шло бы речи о пилотируемых полётах на этой ракете.
 Почему также вы считаете, что твердотопливная САС абсолютно надёжна и не взорвётся вместо того, чтобы увести корабль от аварийного носителя?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 04.04.2012 01:02:57
Цитата
ЦитатаМожет я и устарел но когда мне говорят про жидкостную САС мне хочется ответить что-то типа "пилите но не на жизнях космонавтов"
Вы понимаете, что САС парирует редкую ситуацию, - если бы она не была редкой, то не шло бы речи о пилотируемых полётах на этой ракете.
 Почему также вы считаете, что твердотопливная САС абсолютно надёжна и не взорвётся вместо того, чтобы увести корабль от аварийного носителя?
Ну так я оговорил: "Может я и устарел ".
Давайте считать что САС - просто формальность и по факту не нужна. Долой САС, да здравствуют обугленные части тел героев в случае чего.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 01:09:35
ЦитатаНу так я оговорил: "Может я и устарел ".
Давайте считать что САС - просто формальность и по факту не нужна. Долой САС, да здравствуют обугленные части тел героев в случае чего.
Нет, я не считаю, что вы устарели, поскольку современные космические ракеты делаются на основе тех же технологических принципов, что и раньше.
 По-хорошему от САС можно было бы отказаться если бы перед тем как сажать людей ракета и космический корабль в штатной комплектации для пилотируемого полёта совершили бы несколько десятков, а может быть и сотен испытательных полётов.

 Но это такие затраты на которые никто не пойдёт, - по этой причине я считаю что САС сейчас нужна исходя из психологических и политических причин связанных с организацией космических полётов.
 Это сфера высоких затрат и повышенного внимания общества и правительственных организаций.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Ангри! от 04.04.2012 01:12:40
ЦитатаНу так я оговорил: "Может я и устарел ".
Давайте считать что САС - просто формальность и по факту не нужна. Долой САС, да здравствуют обугленные части тел героев в случае чего.
Вот именно! В "случае чего"...
Вас не смущают "обугленные части тел героев" водителей-дальнобойщиков? Они за 20-40 тонн за спиной рискуют, и гибнут ежедневно.
Всё дело в том, что дальнобойщик бесплатный, а космонат подороже!
/за цинизм - приношу извинения/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Виницкий от 04.04.2012 01:13:31
Ничего, у нас к идиотам привыкли.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 04.04.2012 01:14:19
Цитата
ЦитатаНу так я оговорил: "Может я и устарел ".
Давайте считать что САС - просто формальность и по факту не нужна. Долой САС, да здравствуют обугленные части тел героев в случае чего.
Нет, я не считаю, что вы устарели, поскольку современные космические ракеты делаются на основе тех же технологических принципов, что и раньше.
 По-хорошему от САС можно было бы отказаться если бы перед тем как сажать людей ракета и космический корабль в штатной комплектации для пилотируемого полёта совершили бы несколько десятков, а может быть и сотен испытательных полётов.

 Но это такие затраты на которые никто не пойдёт, - по этой причине я считаю что САС сейчас нужна исходя из психологических и политических причин связанных с организацией космических полётов.
 Это сфера высоких затрат и повышенного внимания общества и правительственных организаций.
Да не вопрос - выкидываем САС так как мы самые крутые. Что это меняет?
Да ничего не меняет в смысле увеличения масс выводимых в космос.
Неравноценный обмен.
Копеечная выгода в обмен на конкретное попадалово в случае чего.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.04.2012 01:56:39
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ЦитатаSalo пишет:

Давайте снимем катапультные кресла со всех реактивных истребителей!
zaitcev пишет:

Дурацкая аналогия.
Снимите эйрбэги и привязные ремни со своей машины, если катапульта Вам не нравится. Представляете какая экономия по всему миру.
Цитатаzaitcev пишет:

Не раз уже было подсчитано, что например у Аполлона вероятность гибели экипажа на старте была ничтожной по сравнению с таковой за период всего полета. Шаттл летал без САС и процент потерь у него меньше, чем у Союза несмотря на 2 катастрофы.
Можно подробнее про гибель экипажей Союзов при выводе на орбиту?
Ваш пример дурацкий или нет?
Цитатаzaitcev пишет:

Ну и что тут сравнивать с истребителями? И кстати я лично летаю на самолете без катапультного сиденья, и даже с одним мотором.
Это реактивный истребитель?
Цитатаzaitcev пишет:

И что теперь?
И парашют в полёт не берёте?
Цитатаzaitcev пишет:

Рациональнее надо оценивать риски, и делать ракеты с парированием отказов.
Как можно парировать взрыв ДУ ракеты? Вы Господь Бог?

Надо взять на вооружение Вашу методологию и парировать авиакатастрофы и автомобильные аварии. Сколько можно сэкономить на эйрбэгах, привязных ремнях, парашютах, катапультах, надувных трапах и т.д., и т.п.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 04.04.2012 10:57:53
ЦитатаПочему также вы считаете, что твердотопливная САС абсолютно надёжна и не взорвётся вместо того, чтобы увести корабль от аварийного носителя?
Я вижу вы со Львом чуть ниже увели разговор в другую сторону, про нужность САС, а ведь это ключевой вопрос. Я ничего против не имею, сам приводил примеры Шаттла с Аполлоном. Ну а все-таки, что плохого в жидкостной системе?

Как я понял слабость жидкостной системы (на самовоспламеняющихся компонентах, разумеется) состоит в:
 1) Новизна. Это к комментарию Льва по поводу опробирования на живых космонавтах. Пока она не сработает хоть раз вживую, мы не знает
 1.1) И наоборот, у ТТУ огромный опыт
 2) Яд, в случае утечки нужно спасаться. Хотя вон с Фрегатом люди работают на МБО и заправочных станциях
 3) Медленное срабатывание, особенно с ТНА. TWR обещал Боингу 150 мс, а не врут? И этого хватит? Кстати сколько у Элона?
 4) Плохая надежность - ну тут понятно. Не смертельно, наверное, но нужно будет испытывать, испытывать, и испытывать, что стоит денег.

Посему получается, что овчинка дорогая. Боинг и SpaceX решили, что она того стоит ввиду компоновочных соображений и в случае Элона особенно - его идеи-фикс с переиспользованием и реактивной посадкой черти куда.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.04.2012 02:03:16
А где там ТНА?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 04.04.2012 02:04:14
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ЦитатаПочему также вы считаете, что твердотопливная САС абсолютно надёжна и не взорвётся вместо того, чтобы увести корабль от аварийного носителя?
Я вижу вы со Львом чуть ниже увели разговор в другую сторону, про нужность САС, а ведь это ключевой вопрос. Я ничего против не имею, сам приводил примеры Шаттла с Аполлоном. Ну а все-таки, что плохого в жидкостной системе?

Как я понял слабость жидкостной системы (на самовоспламеняющихся компонентах, разумеется) состоит в:
 1) Новизна. Это к комментарию Льва по поводу опробирования на живых космонавтах. Пока она не сработает хоть раз вживую, мы не знает
 1.1) И наоборот, у ТТУ огромный опыт
 2) Яд, в случае утечки нужно спасаться. Хотя вон с Фрегатом люди работают на МБО и заправочных станциях
 3) Медленное срабатывание, особенно с ТНА. TWR обещал Боингу 150 мс, а не врут? И этого хватит? Кстати сколько у Элона?
 4) Плохая надежность - ну тут понятно. Не смертельно, наверное, но нужно будет испытывать, испытывать, и испытывать, что стоит денег.

Посему получается, что овчинка дорогая. Боинг и SpaceX решили, что она того стоит ввиду компоновочных соображений и в случае Элона особенно - его идеи-фикс с переиспользованием и реактивной посадкой черти куда.
zaitcev - Вы хорошо обрисовали комплекс причин - "за" и "против"
Далее ждем возможной конструктивной реализации с учетом вышесказанного Вами.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 04.04.2012 11:26:43
ЦитатаА где там ТНА?
Я и не знаю толком. Ни на каких фотографиях тестов ТНА нет. Но на сайте Barber-Nichols он был когда-то, а потом пропал (поисковики находят).

Единственный случай переделки на вытеснение, который мне известен, это т.н. Atlas Vernier Engine, который очень любят всякие любители. Его часто на аукционах продают.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.04.2012 02:36:10
А зачем нужен ТНА при трёхсекундной продолжительности работы в режиме САС?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 03:38:07
ЦитатаКак можно парировать взрыв ДУ ракеты? Вы Господь Бог?
А что будет при нештатном срабатывании самой САС? ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 03:44:12
ЦитатаДа не вопрос - выкидываем САС так как мы самые крутые. Что это меняет?
Да ничего не меняет в смысле увеличения масс выводимых в космос.
Неравноценный обмен.
Копеечная выгода в обмен на конкретное попадалово в случае чего.
Что вы по сути делаете?

 Вы делаете ракету за надёжность которой не уверены и для спасения с этой ракеты на определённом участке вы ставите ещё одну ракету, которая считается ну очень надёжной, правда статистики реальных случаев её использования вообще нет, но так считается.

 А что бы ещё третью не поставить? :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 03:47:17
ЦитатаНадо взять на вооружение Вашу методологию и парировать авиакатастрофы и автомобильные аварии. Сколько можно сэкономить на эйрбэгах, привязных ремнях, парашютах, катапультах, надувных трапах и т.д., и т.п.
Если ракета будет летать в столь же непредсказуемых условиях, в которых совершает движение автомобиль и летает самолёт, то у вас будет куча трупов несмотря на САС.

 Ремни безопасности и подушки безопасности на автомобиле стоят не потому, что у него плохие тормоза, а САС стоит потому, что ракета может взорваться при штатных условиях движения.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: OlegN от 04.04.2012 05:20:27
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ЦитатаНадо взять на вооружение Вашу методологию и парировать авиакатастрофы и автомобильные аварии. Сколько можно сэкономить на эйрбэгах, привязных ремнях, парашютах, катапультах, надувных трапах и т.д., и т.п.
Если ракета будет летать в столь же непредсказуемых условиях, в которых совершает движение автомобиль и летает самолёт, то у вас будет куча трупов несмотря на САС.

 Ремни безопасности и подушки безопасности на автомобиле стоят не потому, что у него плохие тормоза, а САС стоит потому, что ракета может взорваться при штатных условиях движения.
Истребитель тоже летает " штатно ", но никто от кресел  что-то не отказывается(причём бьются ,как ни странно,в основном в мирное время(сейчас)) (и..о Боже - на Ка-52 ни разу не спасало(3 катастрофы), и что? снять К-37 -нафига нужны?) ... Тема вроде вышла опять на тезис -САС нужна. ( или нет?)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.04.2012 05:51:07
ЦитатаТема вроде вышла опять на тезис -САС нужна. ( или нет?)
Кому? Автомобилистам?
CST-100 нужна, без вопросов.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 10:09:10
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ЦитатаТема вроде вышла опять на тезис -САС нужна. ( или нет?)
Кому? Автомобилистам?
CST-100 нужна, без вопросов.
САС нужна. но нужна по политическим соображениям, - летали и без САС когда сочли это возможным.
 Потому если жидкостная САС будет сертифицирована, то может быть и жидкостная САС, рассуждать о том, что она не сработает в одной из сотни аварий когда требуется работа САС бессмысленно.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: OlegN от 04.04.2012 06:10:29
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ЦитатаКак можно парировать взрыв ДУ ракеты? Вы Господь Бог?
А что будет при нештатном срабатывании самой САС? ;)
(сейчас на бан нарвусь,ну и ладно)    - А что вы будете делать , если нечаянно пукнули? (На Приёме,допустим)(Ответов минимум 3)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: OlegN от 04.04.2012 06:18:34
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Цитата
ЦитатаТема вроде вышла опять на тезис -САС нужна. ( или нет?)
Кому? Автомобилистам?
CST-100 нужна, без вопросов.
САС нужна. но нужна по политическим соображениям, - летали и без САС когда сочли это возможным.
 Потому если жидкостная САС будет сертифицирована, то может быть и жидкостная САС, рассуждать о том, что она не сработает в одной из сотни аварий когда требуется работа САС бессмысленно.
Вы опять не правы.
Нужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!! :) (смефуёчек к заядлым опровергателям,Упокойтесь,Как САС была- Так и Будет!Никто без неё больше не полетит (Шаттлы в отставке))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 10:21:21
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Цитата
ЦитатаКак можно парировать взрыв ДУ ракеты? Вы Господь Бог?
А что будет при нештатном срабатывании самой САС? ;)
(сейчас на бан нарвусь,ну и ладно)    - А что вы будете делать , если нечаянно пукнули? (На Приёме,допустим)(Ответов минимум 3)
Понятно, вы покупаете огнетушитель и вас не интересует то, что вы можете погибнуть от самого огнетушителя. :)
 Система безопасности всегда сама является источником опасности, чтобы вы знали.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 04.04.2012 11:21:51
ЦитатаНужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Такая САС никому не нужна.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 10:22:33
ЦитатаВы опять не правы.
Нужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Надёжность САС будет 1%? :lol:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.04.2012 10:23:41
Цитата
ЦитатаSalo пишет:

Как можно парировать взрыв ДУ ракеты? Вы Господь Бог?
Lamort пишет:

А что будет при нештатном срабатывании самой САС? [Шутливо]
Будет лучше, чем при нештатном срабатывании эйрбэгов у Вас в автомобиле. [Здорово]
В этом случае экипаж выживет.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: OlegN от 04.04.2012 06:25:11
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ЦитатаВы опять не правы.
Нужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Надёжность САС будет 1%? :lol:
Offtop уже пошёл . И что? Вам так не Важна Жизнь хотя-бы одного Человека?(или 0% - всех сразу?)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 10:30:21
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Цитата
ЦитатаКак можно парировать взрыв ДУ ракеты? Вы Господь Бог?
А что будет при нештатном срабатывании самой САС? ;)
Будет лучше, чем при нештатном срабатывании эйрбэгов у Вас в автомобиле. 8)
В этом случае экипаж выживет.
Это вопрос, выживет или нет, - в зависимости от того когда и как нештатно сработает САС, но вы привели хороший пример.
 Я временами подумываю, - что будет если эти подушки безопасности сработают сами по себе в неподходящий момент. :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 10:33:36
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ЦитатаВы опять не правы.
Нужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Надёжность САС будет 1%? :lol:
Offtop уже пошёл . И что? Вам так не Важна Жизнь хотя-бы одного Человека?(или 0% - всех сразу?)
Во-первых, вы неправильно сформулировали, - САС с надёжностью 1% действительно никому не нужна.
 Во-вторых, эта сотня аварий никогда не произойдёт, это само по себе маловероятное событие.

 Действительно, Offtop, это всё "нижняя САС". :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: OlegN от 04.04.2012 06:35:34
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ЦитатаНужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Такая САС никому не нужна.
Повторяю - САС на Самолётах не Гарантирует выживание.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 04.04.2012 10:50:15
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Цитата
ЦитатаНужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Такая САС никому не нужна.
Повторяю - САС на Самолётах не Гарантирует выживание.
На самолётах нет САС, там есть катапультируемое кресло, САС уводит корабль на значительное расстояние где он может совершить посадку штатными средствами посадки.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.04.2012 07:13:55
ЦитатаСАС нужна. но нужна по политическим соображениям, - летали и без САС когда сочли это возможным.
2 раза - и прикрыли.
ДУ САС у CST-100 есть уже. Флудить "нужна ли она CST-100 или вообще не нужна" можно в темах http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12116&start=0 Катапультируемые кресла или ДУ САС? http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12126&start=0 http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12126&start=0 Что безопаснее Союз без крыла или Шаттл без парашюта?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий В. от 04.04.2012 10:28:18
ЦитатаНа самолётах нет САС, там есть катапультируемое кресло, САС уводит корабль на значительное расстояние где он может совершить посадку штатными средствами посадки.

На боевых самолетах такая же САС как на Востоке и Джемини - на основе КК :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: OlegN от 04.04.2012 07:32:18
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ЦитатаНужно Так -что она СРАБОТАЕТ в одной из сотни аварий.И это Уже Хорошо!!!
Такая САС никому не нужна.
Повторяю - САС на Самолётах не Гарантирует выживание.
На самолётах нет САС, там есть катапультируемое кресло, САС уводит корабль на значительное расстояние где он может совершить посадку штатными средствами посадки.
САС самолёта - это и есть катапультируемое кресло,которое уводит экипаж на значительное расстояние от объекта и обеспечивает посадку(штатными средствами,+ НЗ и всякие "штучки") а в капсуле, или без оной- значения не имеет.   (оффтоп заканчиваем!)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.04.2012 07:41:18
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 04.04.2012 11:44:45
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.04.2012 08:02:32
On April 3, Boeing successfully completed a parachute drop test of the company's Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 spacecraft at the Delmar Dry Lake Bed near Alamo, Nev.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 04.04.2012 14:04:09
ЦитатаOn April 3, Boeing successfully completed a parachute drop test of the company's Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 spacecraft at the Delmar Dry Lake Bed near Alamo, Nev.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1204/03cst100drop/ :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 04.04.2012 21:07:59
04.04.2012 / 09:11   Состоялись испытания парашюта для корабля CST-100
ЦитатаПресс-служба компании Boeing сообщила об успешном проведении 3 апреля испытаний парашютной системы для транспортного корабля CST-100. Испытания прошли в районе высохшего соляного озера близ города Аламо в штате Невада. Прототип корабля был поднят вертолетом на высоту 3,5 км и сброшен вниз. По сообщению специалистов Boeing, все элементы парашютной системы сработали штатно и аппарат плавно опустился под тремя куполами на землю.

     - К.И.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.04.2012 10:42:15
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2199
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 05.04.2012 15:10:54
Сбрасывали CST вроде бы, с того же вертолёта, что и Dragon.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.04.2012 13:03:48
ЦитатаСбрасывали CST вроде бы, с того же вертолёта, что и Dragon.
Совсем того же? Или такого же?  Erickson Sky Crane или Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 05.04.2012 17:15:06
У Боинга черным по белому написано:
ЦитатаAn Erickson Sky Crane helicopter lifted the CST-100 test article to about 11,000 feet and released it.

Спейсекс же меленько и серым по белому:
ЦитатаDuring the August 12th test, an Erikson S-64F Air-Crane helicopter dropped a test article of the Dragon spacecraft from a height of 14,000 feet, roughly nine miles off the coast of Morro Bay, California.
Чем они отличаются, можно посмотреть на сайте производителя (http://www.ericksonaircrane.com/)  :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 06.04.2012 02:23:23
Цитата
ЦитатаСбрасывали CST вроде бы, с того же вертолёта, что и Dragon.

Совсем того же? Или такого же?  Erickson Sky Crane или Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane
Коллега Yutani торопится с выводами. Это мог быть Skycrane рег. N179AC, мог быть другой. Я пока не видел подтверждения, что знаменитый Элвис сбрасывал. Кстати:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_%28helicopter%29
Статья не упоминает, что Элвис сбросил Драгон. Википедия, что хотеть.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.04.2012 13:28:28
ЦитатаКоллега Yutani торопится с выводами. Это мог быть Skycrane рег. N179AC, мог быть другой. Я пока не видел подтверждения, что знаменитый Элвис сбрасывал. Кстати:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_%28helicopter%29
Статья не упоминает, что Элвис сбросил Драгон. Википедия, что хотеть.
Erickson всем Sky Crane дает собственные имена. Я знаю про Элвис и Ольгу. Поэтому "тот-же" приобретает новый смысл.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 05.04.2012 17:31:08
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаСбрасывали CST вроде бы, с того же вертолёта, что и Dragon.

Совсем того же? Или такого же?  Erickson Sky Crane или Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane
Коллега Yutani торопится с выводами. Это мог быть Skycrane рег. N179AC, мог быть другой. Я пока не видел подтверждения, что знаменитый Элвис сбрасывал. Кстати:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_%28helicopter%29
Статья не упоминает, что Элвис сбросил Драгон. Википедия, что хотеть.
AirCrane. У Skycrane буквы HT в номере, ЕМНИП.
На каком-то из сайтов под фотографией, подписанной Skycrane, видел комментарий, что на самом деле это Hulk, разница небольшая, но типа справедливости ради ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 05.04.2012 17:36:37
ЦитатаСбрасывали CST вроде бы, с того же вертолёта, что и Dragon.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.04.2012 15:00:43
Возник вопрос про вертолет выполняющий дроп тесты
Dragon сбрасывал Erickson AirCrane
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3686/00225t.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3686/00225t.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Луноход от 05.04.2012 20:45:57
ЦитатаВозник вопрос про вертолет выполняющий дроп тесты
Dragon сбрасывал Erickson AirCrane
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3686/00225t.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3686/00225t.jpg)
Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Виницкий от 05.04.2012 23:41:35
Erickson AirCrane - просто тюнинг машины Сикорского
http://www.ericksonaircrane.com/history.php
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 06.04.2012 12:54:33
ЦитатаНа каком-то из сайтов под фотографией, подписанной Skycrane, видел комментарий, что на самом деле это Hulk, разница небольшая, но типа справедливости ради ;)
"Hulk" - это название конкретного вертолета, так же как Ту-160 "Александр Невский".
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 09.04.2012 12:09:42
Краткое видео парашютного теста.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9R4Wy4ZE0Y
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 10.04.2012 20:06:53
Цитата
ЦитатаНа каком-то из сайтов под фотографией, подписанной Skycrane, видел комментарий, что на самом деле это Hulk, разница небольшая, но типа справедливости ради ;)
"Hulk" - это название конкретного вертолета, так же как Ту-160 "Александр Невский".
Я к тому, что это AirCrane, так же как и Elvis ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Виницкий от 10.04.2012 21:14:22
Вполне допустимое название. Оригинальная машина так и называется Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 10.04.2012 17:20:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAi1woqnkh4
Boeing CST-100 Drop-Test 8x slow motion
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 12.04.2012 14:28:26
Боинг планирует испытать CST-100 в орбитальном полете в 2016 и заодно просит побольше денег.

Boeing anticipates CST-100 orbital flight tests in 2016
ЦитатаBoeing expects to finish the design of its CST-100 capsule by early 2014, but officials say the commercial crew taxi may not be ready for orbital flights until 2016, assuming the company receives the anticipated funding from NASA in an award due by August.

Last summer, Boeing's CST-100 schedule called for test flights of the reusable capsule in 2015.

According to John Mulholland, vice president and general manager of Boeing commercial programs, the schedule for CST-100 orbital flight tests and the craft's entry into service will depend on how much money Boeing receives in the CCiCap award and the subsequent certification phase.

Mulholland said in an April 6 interview the CST-100 program should reach its critical design review by early 2014. The review is a major milestone at the close of the project's design phase.

That is contingent upon NASA awarding funding to Boeing in the next round of the agency's commercial crew program. NASA plans to announce winners of the commercial crew integrated capability, or CCiCap, stage of the program in August, distributing between $300 million and $500 million in funding to at least companies.

The CST-100 spacecraft, designed to ferry up to seven astronauts to and from low Earth orbit, is Boeing's proposal for NASA to acquire commercial crew transportation for the International Space Station.

Boeing, Sierra Nevada Corp., SpaceX and Blue Origin are currently receiving NASA funding under agreements set to expire this summer.

After the retirement of the space shuttle last year, NASA must purchase seats on Russian Soyuz spacecraft until a domestic vehicle is operational.

Congress cut NASA's fiscal 2012 commercial crew budget request by more than half, appropriating $406 million to the program for the fiscal year ending Sept. 30. The budget forced NASA to abandon its procurement strategy in the next phase of the program and return to Space Act Agreements, a more flexible, less rigid mechanism to partner with commercial providers.

The appropriation forced NASA to revise its forecast for the beginning of operational commercial crew missions from 2016 to 2017. The start of commercial crew service would come after a series of test flights by the spacecraft's private operators.

Even a $500 million award likely would delay Boeing's flight test program beyond 2015, according to Mulholland.

"With appropriate funding, we still can support a 2015 entry into service. I would say, and I can't be real specific on it, to hold the 2015 date, we would need, it appears, slightly more than the $300 million to $500 million in the base period," Mulholland said.

The CCiCap Space Act Agreements will cover a 21-month base period, but NASA requested proposals lay out a series of optional milestones beyond the base period leading up to crewed test flights.

"We'll be running through qualification tests on all of the engines," Mulholland said. "We'll be doing more drop tests and landing tests. Pretty much every system on the vehicle will be going through some level of demonstration and qualification testing during that 21-month period."

After the 21-month base period ends in May 2014, Boeing's schedule calls for the completion of a structural test article and qualification testing.

"The other large-scale test will be a service module hotfire test," Mulholland said. "We'll have a complete service module with flight computer systems running. We'll have that test outside the 21-month period of performance, same with our qualification test vehicle. We'll be subjecting that to all the different environments we need to be certified for. And then we run into our three larger scale tests. The first one would be a pad abort test at the While Sands Missile Range. That will be done on the same stand that was used on the Orion pad abort test."

The CST-100 capsule, which measures nearly 15 feet in diameter, will initially launch into orbit on United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rockets from Cape Canaveral, Fla.

Mulholland said Boeing plans to sign a firm contract for two Atlas 5 rockets soon after it hopes to receive a CCiCap award from NASA in August. The Atlas boosters will launch an uncrewed orbital flight test of the CST-100 capsule and a full-up demonstration mission with two Boeing astronauts on-board.

An ascent abort demonstration originally planned using a third Atlas 5 rocket has been removed from the Boeing test manifest, according to Mulholland.

After the test program is complete, NASA will certify the spacecraft to fly to the International Space Station with NASA astronauts.

While planning more ambitious tests in the future, Boeing engineers currently are navigating through a series of basic tests to verify the design of critical CST-100 systems such as parachutes, landing airbags, thrusters, propellant tanks and software.

Boeing completed a drop test of a boilerplate CST-100 capsule April 3.

John Elbon, vice president and program manager of Boeing's space exploration division, said engineers are analyzing data "relative to G loading" when the craft touched down in the Nevada desert.

"Overall, the drop test was very successful and we're very happy with the results," Elbon said.

Mulholland said another CST-100 drop in Nevada is scheduled for early May to test the capsule's drogue parachutes, which were not part of the April 3 test. Other milestones left in Boeing's current development agreement with NASA include a June hotfire of the CST-100's orbital maneuvering engine at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, a test of the capsule's landing airbags, and a software preliminary design review.

A cold flow test of the service module propulsion system is also on tap for June, along with a test of a service module propellant tank.

The CST-100's systems-level preliminary design review finished in early March.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1204/11cst100/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 28.04.2012 18:59:04
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/asd_04_26_2012_p04-01-451887.xml
ЦитатаJSC To Support Training, Early Flight Ops For Boeing CST-100
By Mark Carreau
Source: Aerospace Daily & Defense Report

April 26 , 2012

HOUSTON -- Boeing is turning to the Mission Operations Directorate (MOD) at NASA's Johnson Space Center to support the training for and early flight operations of the company's seven-person CST-100 entrant in NASA's Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) initiative.

Under the terms of a recent addition to their April 2011 CCDev-2 Space Act Agreement, Boeing intends to reach a larger pact with MOD later this year to provide launch-to-landing operations from the Mission Control Center (MCC) at Johnson for its first several flights. Boeing will reimburse NASA for the training and flight control services.

"Adding MOD to our team leverages NASA's experience in crewed space operation to ensure mission success for our CST-100 spacecraft," said Chris Ferguson, director of Crew and Mission Operations for Boeing's Commercial Crew Program and a former shuttle commander, in a statement. "As we continue to mature our spacecraft design, MOD technical support will ensure the CST-100 is built with the operators in mind." NASA's MCC here has overseen all of the agency's human spaceflight missions since the Gemini era.

Boeing is among four U.S. companies awarded a portion of $270 million in NASA CCDev-2 funding in April 2011. The capsule-shaped CST-100 is in competition for continued development support under a third round of Space Act Agreement funding. NASA plans to announce the participants in the Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap), the third phase of the commercial crew initiative, in the July/August time frame.

NASA intends to nurture the development of at least two companies that can transport astronauts to and from the International Space Station by 2017, if the agency's budget permits. The initiative is managed from NASA's Kennedy Space Center with support from Johnson.

If successful in its pursuit of CCiCap funding, Boeing will continue with its development of a flight training program and provide the instruction plan to MOD for training Boeing customers, which will primarily be NASA-led space station crews. Boeing would provide the overall supervision and retain responsibility for final training certification, according to a company spokeswoman.

NASA personnel would staff the Johnson MCC during the CST-100 launch-to-space station docking and undocking-to-landing phases of flight.

In addition, the company will establish a Boeing Mission Control Center at Kennedy and staff it with company personnel.

"While this facility can act in the capacity of a Mission Control Center for human spaceflight, Boeing will use the MOD/Houston MCC as the controlling entity for its first several flights," the company says.

The reusable CST-100 is designed to carry a combination of passengers and cargo to multiple low-Earth-orbit destinations, including the planned Bigelow Aerospace orbital complex.

Boeing has targeted 2015 for the first test flight, with the United Launch Alliance Atlas V serving as the launch vehicle.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 04.05.2012 10:52:06
NASA's Commercial Crew Partner Boeing Completes Parachute Test
ЦитатаThe Boeing Company successfully completed the second parachute drop test for its Crew Space Transportation (CST) spacecraft Wednesday, part of its effort to develop commercial crew transportation capabilities that could ferry U.S. astronauts to and from low-Earth orbit (LEO) and the International Space Station.

A helicopter lifted the CST-100 crew capsule to about 10,000 feet above the Delmar Dry Lake Bed near Alamo, Nev. A drogue parachute deployment sequence was initiated, followed by deployment of the main parachute. The capsule descended to a smooth ground landing, cushioned by six inflated air bags. The test demonstrated the performance of the entire landing system.

"Boeing's parachute demonstrations are a clear sign NASA is moving in the right direction of enabling the American aerospace transportation industry to flourish under this partnership," NASA's Commercial Crew Program Manager Ed Mango said. "The investments we're making now are enabling this new path forward of getting our crews to LEO and potentially the space station as soon as possible."

Boeing's CST system is designed to be a reusable, capsule-shaped spacecraft capable of taking up to seven people, or a combination of people and cargo, to and from low-Earth orbit, including the space station. HDT Airborne Systems of Solon, Ohio, designed, fabricated and integrated the parachute system, including the two drogue parachutes. ILC Dover of Frederica, Del., designed and fabricated the landing air bag system.

The first test, on April 3, validated the architecture and deployment of the parachute system, characterized pyrotechnic shock loads, confirmed parachute size and design, and identified potential forward compartment packaging and deployment issues. The company inspected and re-packed the full parachute system for this second test.

"This second parachute drop test validates Boeing's innovative system architecture and deployment plan," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Programs. "Boeing's completion of this milestone reaffirms our commitment to provide safe, reliable and affordable crewed access to space."

The company has scheduled additional tests to be performed in 2012 that will provide more data on elements of the spacecraft's design.

Boeing's spacecraft was designed to be compatible with a variety of expendable launch vehicles. The company selected United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rocket for initial CST-100 test flights.

All of NASA's industry partners, including Boeing, continue to meet their established milestones in developing commercial crew transportation capabilities.
http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/features/boeing_drop_test.html
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 04.05.2012 10:52:41
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1205/03cst100/

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 04.05.2012 12:01:53
Интересно, как мешки отработали...
видео бы.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Виницкий от 04.05.2012 13:29:07
http://youtu.be/4Wrz8Yz3TtU
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: mefisto_x от 04.05.2012 10:17:54
Цитатаhttp://youtu.be/4Wrz8Yz3TtU
удар приличный  :D
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.05.2012 10:38:30
Новый вброс информации перед 30 апреля, а сейчас перед 7мая - Боинг напоминает, что он тоже работает над мультипланетностью человечества )))
(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/9683/123qu.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9007/123vcw.jpg) (клик на полный рост)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.05.2012 10:44:59
Цитатаудар приличный  :D
По первому осмотру незаметно))
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3861/1232v.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5619/1232hm.jpg)кликабельно
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 04.05.2012 19:58:28
Красавцы! Респект! Не в воду сбросили однако... :D
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: mefisto_x от 04.05.2012 16:02:07
с другой стороны бы еще посмотреть, все ли баллоны целые а то мне показалось, что при приземлении капсула наклонена налево на верхнем снимке  :roll:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.05.2012 16:04:32
ИМХО это уже отскок. нужно видео посмотреть (выше я постил ссылку на 8кратно замедленное)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Reader от 04.05.2012 20:13:18
Помню лет несколько назад Орион твёрдо планировали сажать на сушу. Где-то в планируемом районе посадки было поселение под именем White Grave. Вспомнилась тогда Акмола (Акмолинск, Целиноград, ныне Астана) - Белая могила :D
P.S. Запамятовал, не Белая могила - а Graves Valley, Калифорния:
(http://f10.ifotki.info/thumb/ecd092976cacb57efd765a0ed7b92d725fddb4118808586.jpg) (http://ifotki.info/10/ecd092976cacb57efd765a0ed7b92d725fddb4118808586.jpg.html)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.05.2012 16:27:20
Есть фото с другой стороны. Вертолет, аккуратно сложенные баллоны. Похоже что перед сбросом.
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Вверху логотип Боинг, в нижнем ряду Бигелоу.

ЦитатаBoeing plans on more tests this year including multiple air bag landing evaluations, an orbital maneuvering engine test and a test that will include a forward heat shield jettison on the capsule. The company is hoping the first flights of the spacecraft will happen in 2015-16.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tseytlin genrich от 04.05.2012 21:55:05
Складывется впечатление,что CTS-100 отправится в пилотируемый полёт гораздо раньше, чем Dragon
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 05.05.2012 01:05:35
ЦитатаСкладывется впечатление,что STS-100 отправится в пилотируемый полёт гораздо раньше, чем Dragon
Я скажу больше - STS-100 в полет уже отправлялся :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 05.05.2012 00:24:31
Цитата
ЦитатаСкладывется впечатление,что STS-100 отправится в пилотируемый полёт гораздо раньше, чем Dragon
Я скажу больше - STS-100 в полет уже отправлялся :wink:
А как же ПО?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 05.05.2012 09:55:29
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаСкладывется впечатление,что STS-100 отправится в пилотируемый полёт гораздо раньше, чем Dragon
Я скажу больше - STS-100 в полет уже отправлялся :wink:
А как же ПО?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcZklLPk7RI
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2012 10:44:32
Сброс выполнял Erickson Air-Crane N171AC (Sikorsky S-64B, c/n 64-090) ник неизвестен
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2012 15:15:29
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7352/70912575693f8d3fd128z.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3508/7091257569bff37289cco.jpg)
Мортирка выстрелила тормозными парашютами.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 05.05.2012 20:01:30
А Литл Джо-3 будет?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2012 16:14:06
ввод основных
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в этом году второй дроп тест, сбросы с крана дл проверки подушек, тесты сброса ТЗП и тесты Бантама.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2012 17:54:12
Майкл Форман осматривает парашют после теста.
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2576/694841500674e88ed7f0z.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7665/694841500698f2228662o.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 06.05.2012 14:12:55
Цитатаввод основных
Надо же, как его мотает. Нет, нельзя летать на тряпках.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 06.05.2012 06:19:46
ЦитатаНадо же, как его мотает. Нет, нельзя летать на тряпках.
наполнение
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 07.05.2012 02:31:01
Цитата
Цитатаввод основных
Надо же, как его мотает..

Это потому что пустой :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 09.05.2012 14:15:08
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/ccts/index.html
ЦитатаCurrently, Boeing is executing the Commercial Crew Development Phase 2 (CCDev2) Space Act Agreement of $112.9M and will run from April 2011 - July 2012. Some of the Phase 2 milestones include Airbag drop tests, wind tunnel tests, and taking the integrated system to a Preliminary Design Review.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 09.05.2012 14:30:06
Цитата
Цитатаввод основных
Надо же, как его мотает. Нет, нельзя летать на тряпках.
Корабль такой формы, - конус с балансировочным углом основанием вперёд, неустойчив в полёте в принципе.
 Чем он более приплюснутый, тем он более неустойчив.

 После гашения скорости его, в принципе, с помощью довольно несложных стабилизаторов можно сделать устойчивым, но эти штуковины уменьшат полезную нагрузку на орбите.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 09.05.2012 14:36:30
Цитата
ЦитатаНадо же, как его мотает. Нет, нельзя летать на тряпках.
наполнение
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/6947596574_e3200b12df_z.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6070/69475965746671d420afo.jpg)
Ленточные парашюты прозрачны насквозь, - красиво получается. :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: m-s Gelezniak от 09.05.2012 14:38:22
Цитата
Цитата
Цитатаввод основных
Надо же, как его мотает..

Это потому что пустой :wink:
Толку тогда от этого теста :wink: .
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.05.2012 15:24:37
ЦитатаТолку тогда от этого теста :wink: .
количество стальных тросов подсказывает что не пустой и толк должен быть ))
 Аир-кран 20000 фунтов в воздух поднимает )
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5079/6947596544_860dd2d1cf_z.jpg) (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5079/6947596544_d323c4fe00_o.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: m-s Gelezniak от 09.05.2012 20:45:06
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ЦитатаТолку тогда от этого теста :wink: .
количество стальных тросов подсказывает что не пустой и толк должен быть ))
 Аир-кран 20000 фунтов в воздух поднимает )
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5079/6947596544_860dd2d1cf_z.jpg) (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5079/6947596544_d323c4fe00_o.jpg)
Я о том же.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 26.05.2012 14:31:26
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The Boeing Company has successfully completed a new milestone in the development of software that will operate its Crew Space Transportation (CST) spacecraft. The company is one of NASA's partners developing commercial crew transportation capabilities to ferry U.S. astronauts to and from low Earth orbit and the International Space Station.

With the Preliminary Design Review (PDR) of its software on May 18, the company now has completed more than 40 milestones under partnerships supporting NASA's Commercial Crew Program (CCP).

"When it comes to designing a spacecraft safe enough to transport humans, software is as important as the hardware," said Ed Mango, CCP manager. "Boeing has made an excellent effort to take safety into consideration while developing critical software components of its spacecraft."

Boeing's CST-100 is designed to be a reusable, capsule-shaped spacecraft, capable of transporting up to seven people or a combination of people and cargo. It is compatible with a variety of expendable launch vehicles. Boeing has selected United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rocket for initial CST-100 test flights.

Software is essential to all operational aspects of the spacecraft, including launch, orbital maneuvering, docking with and separating from the space station, re-entry and landing. The testing is part of a NASA-funded Space Act Agreement under the second round of the agency's commercial crew development (CCDev2) activities, which could eventually lead toward human spaceflight certification of the CST-100.

The Boeing team is on schedule to complete its remaining CCDev2 milestones in the next few months, including an orbital maneuvering/attitude control engine hot fire test that will provide additional data on significant elements of the spacecraft design.

All of NASA's industry partners, including Boeing, continue to meet their established milestones in developing commercial crew transportation capabilities.

For more information about NASA's Commercial Crew Program, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 20.06.2012 17:47:12
Чем Боинг хуже СпэйсЭкса?  :wink:
Видео испытания движка http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=146725741
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 27.06.2012 10:38:30
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=60153

(кликабельно)

Цитата(http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images/medium/2012-3495-m.jpg) (http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images/large/2012-3495.jpg)

LAS CRUCES, N.M. -- Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne tests a thruster destined for Boeing's CST-100 spacecraft. The thruster was fired in a vacuum chamber that simulated a space-like environment of 100,000 feet at NASA's White Sands Test Facility in Las Cruces, N.M., to verify its durability in extreme heat, evaluate the opening and closing of its valves and confirm continuous combustion and performance. Twenty-four thrusters will be part of the spacecraft's orbital maneuvering and attitude control system OMAC, giving the CST-100 the ability to maneuver in space and during re-entry. The thrusters also will allow the spacecraft to separate from its launch vehicle if an abort becomes necessary during launch or ascent. In 2011, NASA selected Boeing of Houston during Commercial Crew Development Round 2 CCDev2) activities to mature the design and development of a crew transportation system with the overall goal of accelerating a United States-led capability to the International Space Station. The goal of CCP is to drive down the cost of space travel as well as open up space to more people than ever before by balancing industry's own innovative capabilities with NASA's 50 years of human spaceflight experience. Six other aerospace companies also are maturing launch vehicle and spacecraft designs under CCDev2, including Alliant Techsystems Inc. ATK, Blue Origin, Excalibur Almaz Inc., Sierra Nevada Corp., Space Exploration Technologies SpaceX, and United Launch Alliance ULA. For more information, visit www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew . Image credit: Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 27.06.2012 11:30:18
Thruster Tests Completed for Boeing's CST-100
ЦитатаPratt and Whitney Rocketdyne has successfully completed a series of tests on a thruster destined for Boeing's Commercial Space Transportation spacecraft, designated CST-100.

Boeing is one of several companies working to develop crew transportation capabilities under the Commercial Crew Development Round 2 agreement with NASA's Commercial Crew Program. The goal of the program is to help spur innovation and development of safe, reliable and cost-effective spacecraft and launch vehicles capable of transporting astronauts to low Earth orbit and the International Space Station.

Twenty-four thrusters will be part of the spacecraft's orbital maneuvering and attitude control system (OMAC), giving the CST-100 the ability to maneuver in space and during re-entry. The thrusters also will allow the spacecraft to separate from its launch vehicle if an abort becomes necessary during launch or ascent.

"Boeing and Pratt and Whitney Rocketdyne know what it takes to develop safe systems and subsystems," said NASA Commercial Crew Program Manager Ed Mango. "They're building on the successes of their past, while pushing the envelope with next-generation ideas to create a spacecraft for low Earth orbit transportation."

During tests conducted at NASA's White Sands Test Facility in Las Cruces, N.M., an OMAC thruster was fired in a vacuum chamber that simulated a space-like environment of 100,000 feet. The tests verified the durability of the thrusters in extreme heat, evaluated the opening and closing of its valves and confirmed continuous combustion and performance.

"We're excited about the performance of the engine during the testing and confident the OMAC thrusters will affordably meet operational needs for safe, reliable human spaceflight," said Terry Lorier, Pratt and Whitney Rocketdyne's Commercial Crew Development program manager.

All of NASA's industry partners, including Boeing, continue to meet their established milestones in developing commercial crew transportation capabilities.
http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/crew/pwr_omac.html
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 28.06.2012 00:58:36
Кто-то мне говорил что полет семерых на CST-100 - это экзотика которую Боинг вообще не рассматривает всерьез. А вообще - 2-3
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 28.06.2012 10:49:58
2 ???  :shock:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 28.06.2012 12:26:53
К Луне?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 28.06.2012 16:57:53
Чтот я не слыхал ни разу, чтобы первичной задачей для CST-100 называли что-либо, кроме низкой околоземной орбиты...

А для неё новый корабль вместимостью менее четырёх человек почти никому не интересен.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 29.06.2012 01:00:08
Впервые услышал от первоисточника что 7 челов на CST-100 - это экзотика а так планируется 2-3 чела
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 29.06.2012 13:24:23
Я бы, честно говоря, не стал верить этому "первоисточнику".

Не исключено, конечно, что в первых испытательных полётах действительно будет только 2-3 ч-ка, но это не та вместимость, для которой Боинг стал бы делать подобный КК.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 29.06.2012 19:31:15
ЦитатаВпервые услышал от первоисточника что 7 челов на CST-100 - это экзотика а так планируется 2-3 чела
LG, по-моему вы как утопающий за соломинку цепляетесь за мысль о том, что американцы в ближайшее время не сделают корабль с вместимостью больше корабля "Союз". :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 29.06.2012 19:44:44
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ЦитатаВпервые услышал от первоисточника что 7 челов на CST-100 - это экзотика а так планируется 2-3 чела
LG, по-моему вы как утопающий за соломинку цепляетесь за мысль о том, что американцы в ближайшее время не сделают корабль с вместимостью больше корабля "Союз". :)
Вы не поняли. Я просто получил еще одно подтверждение моему ИМХО что 7 челов на Боинге или Драконе - не более чем презентационная экзотика а реальная  их вместимость будет намного меньше.
И кстати вместимость - не главный вопрос. Главный вопрос - стоимость кресла.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 29.06.2012 21:05:52
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=960795#960795

Лев, когда тапок покажете? :roll:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 29.06.2012 20:25:55
Цитатаhttp://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=960795#960795

Лев, когда тапок покажете? :roll:
Согласитесь, что самостоятельно и на свии деньги и без госзаказа РККЭ тапок сделать не может да это и не надо. Так что все вопросы к заказчику который платит или не платит и которому тапок нужен или не нужен.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 30.06.2012 11:11:56
ЦитатаИ кстати вместимость - не главный вопрос. Главный вопрос - стоимость кресла.
Во-во. И CST-100 тут КК "Союз" не побить, пока он летает на "Атласе". Там один пуск - 180 миллионов. Нужно по 10 человек запихивать.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 30.06.2012 10:51:43
Цитата
ЦитатаИ кстати вместимость - не главный вопрос. Главный вопрос - стоимость кресла.
Во-во. И CST-100 тут КК "Союз" не побить, пока он летает на "Атласе". Там один пуск - 180 миллионов. Нужно по 10 человек запихивать.
Почему по 10 ? Разве NASA платит за кресло на "Союзах" по 18-20 M$ ?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 30.06.2012 18:04:21
ЦитатаЯ бы, честно говоря, не стал верить этому "первоисточнику".

Не исключено, конечно, что в первых испытательных полётах действительно будет только 2-3 ч-ка, но это не та вместимость, для которой Боинг стал бы делать подобный КК.
Зам президента РККЭ который лично сиживал в корабле Боинга и мой непосредственный начальник - ИМХО надежный "первоисточник". В отличии от неназванных которые несут всякую пургу.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 30.06.2012 15:34:17
Думаю это эффект глухого телефона.  Может первое время, или период испытаний. Или еще что нибудь подобное.
Иначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
 4 - по массе и размерам достижимо  :roll:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 30.06.2012 19:43:37
ЦитатаДумаю это эффект глухого телефона.  Может первое время, или период испытаний. Или еще что нибудь подобное.
Иначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
 4 - по массе и размерам достижимо  :roll:
НАСА хочет не менее трех. :D
ИМХО трое и будут.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 30.06.2012 19:46:51
ЦитатаДумаю это эффект глухого телефона.  Может первое время, или период испытаний. Или еще что нибудь подобное.
Иначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
 4 - по массе и размерам достижимо  :roll:
Когда специалистов Боинга спросили- как полетите всемером, они ответили - не факт конечно что полетим всемеом но полетим как Вы - в 3 витка по быстой схеме.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 30.06.2012 18:47:52
Цитата
ЦитатаДумаю это эффект глухого телефона.  Может первое время, или период испытаний. Или еще что нибудь подобное.
Иначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
 4 - по массе и размерам достижимо  :roll:
НАСА хочет не менее трех. :D
ИМХО трое и будут.
да больше и не надо
а вся эта болтовня про 6 человек - по сути не более, чем необоснованные фантазии на тему туризма.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LG от 30.06.2012 19:53:27
Причем - два из трех будут пилоты-проффессионалы... :D
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 01.07.2012 07:13:27
ЦитатаИначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
Есть фирма, которая этим занимается, по типу Ала Дуры и его ТКС. И тоже собрались новый приборный отсек конструировать. Раньше они назывались "America In Space", потом переименовались как-то.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 30.06.2012 22:15:36
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаДумаю это эффект глухого телефона.  Может первое время, или период испытаний. Или еще что нибудь подобное.
Иначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
 4 - по массе и размерам достижимо  :roll:
НАСА хочет не менее трех. :D
ИМХО трое и будут.
да больше и не надо
а вся эта болтовня про 6 человек - по сути не более, чем необоснованные фантазии на тему туризма.
Как раз обоснованные - вспомните финансовую ситуацию после проигрыша конкурса по Ориону Лок-Марту и роль Bigelow Aerospace в дальнейшем развитии работ по CST-100. (хотя, учитывая нынешнюю их ситуацию, до турполётов к станции Бигелоу может и не дойти...)

Мой здравый смысл подсказывает, что экипаж будет 4-6, но не менее 4 ч-к. Давайте проверим. ))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 01.07.2012 11:22:23
Возить будут столько, сколько помещается в один ряд - т.е. четверых.
Семеро - это рекламный трюк, хотя может разок-другой и слетают.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lamort от 01.07.2012 12:45:32
ЦитатаВозить будут столько, сколько помещается в один ряд - т.е. четверых.
Семеро - это рекламный трюк, хотя может разок-другой и слетают.
Летать будут столько людей сколько позволит ресурс МКС, но, скорее всего, не "под завязку".

 Семь человек может потребоваться в случае эвакуации всего экипажа со станции.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 01.07.2012 17:19:33
ЦитатаЛетать будут столько людей сколько позволит ресурс МКС, но, скорее всего, не "под завязку".
Ресурс МКС вполне может позволить и семерых. Если трое-четверо из них на неделю-две.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 01.07.2012 16:28:25
Цитата
ЦитатаИначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
Есть фирма, которая этим занимается, по типу Ала Дуры и его ТКС. И тоже собрались новый приборный отсек конструировать. Раньше они назывались "America In Space", потом переименовались как-то.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11634&start=0
Это про интерстеллар модуле?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 01.07.2012 21:12:08
ЦитатаРесурс МКС вполне может позволить и семерых. Если трое-четверо из них на неделю-две.
Если убрать оттуда троих русских...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 01.07.2012 17:22:16
ЦитатаРесурс МКС вполне может позволить и семерых. Если трое-четверо из них на неделю-две.
От коммерческих пока требуют отвезти какое-то-количество-челов(4-7) на станцию-корабль на НОО. Быстро и дешево.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 01.07.2012 21:27:25
Цитата
ЦитатаРесурс МКС вполне может позволить и семерых. Если трое-четверо из них на неделю-две.
Если убрать оттуда троих русских...
А зачем их убирать? Они сами мечтают о "суверенной" ОС.
Приглядитесь к тому, что пишет Лев.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 02.07.2012 16:48:26
Лев так же выражает надежды, что Япония и Европа не захотят пропадать из ПК и приделают к будущей станции свои модули.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Not от 03.07.2012 10:07:47
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаРесурс МКС вполне может позволить и семерых. Если трое-четверо из них на неделю-две.
Если убрать оттуда троих русских...
А зачем их убирать? Они сами мечтают о "суверенной" ОС.
Приглядитесь к тому, что пишет Лев.

ЦитатаНо однажды все ребята
Подошли к нему гурьбой,
Подошли к нему ребята
И спросили:- Что с тобой?

Почему ты видишь тучи
Даже в солнечные дни?
Ты очки протри получше -
Может, грязные они?
Может, кто-нибудь назло
Дал неверное стекло?

- Прочь!- сказал Иван Петрович.
Я сейчас вас проучу!
Я,- сказал Иван Петрович,-
Вижу то, что я хочу.

Отошли подальше дети:
- Ой, сосед какой чудак!
Очень плохо жить на свете,
Если видеть все не так.

 :wink:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 03.07.2012 11:32:50
Цитата
Цитата
ЦитатаИначе НАСА резко охладеет к духместному кораблю и попросит сделать Джемини.))))
Есть фирма, которая этим занимается, по типу Ала Дуры и его ТКС. И тоже собрались новый приборный отсек конструировать. Раньше они назывались "America In Space", потом переименовались как-то.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11634&start=0
Это про интерстеллар модуле?

Цитата
Цитата А действительно - сколько их?

на вскидку:

1. SpaceX
2. Orbital
3. CST-100
4. Orion Havy
5. Orion Light
6. Dearm Chaser Orbital
7. Excalibur Almaz
8. ПТК лунный
9. ПТК околоземный
10.Шэньчжоу
11.Blue Origin
12.ATK composite
13.ISRO
14.ESA
15.JAXA

16.Space Operations


Цитата....Space Operations, Inc. (SpaceOps) has formed a team of highly motivated aerospace companies for this purpose.

The three companies involved with the effort are WestWind Technologies, Inc., Advanced Solutions, Inc., and Southern Aerospace Company.  SpaceOps, will use the technology developed on the Gemini Program to be the basis for the 21st century, two-seat, ECLIPSE spacecraft.

"Since this is an existing and proven design we could begin construction six to eight weeks after funding and complete a flying prototype ten to thirteen months later," said WestWind President Bill Jolly.

U.S. built rocket boosters are currently available and could launch the ECLIPSE plus a significant amount of cargo into orbit.....

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/gemini-to-fly-again-159561815.html

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10038&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=420
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.07.2012 19:08:09
Вот это номер! :shock:

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/07/03/report-boeing-lockheed-martin-looking-to-outsource-cst100-orion-work-to-energia/
ЦитатаReport: Boeing, Lockheed Martin Looking to Outsource CST-100, Orion Work to Energia
Posted by Doug Messier
on July 3, 2012, at 4:54 pm

Parabolic Arc Managing Editor

Russia's Izvestia newspaper reported on Tuesday that Boeing and Lockheed Martin have been in talks for RSC Energia to supply docking and thermal protection technologies for the CST-100 and Orion spacecraft. Below is an excerpt of the story via Google Translate:

Russian companies could take part in creating the future of American manned spacecraft Orion and CST-100, which develop by Lockheed Martin and Boeing. A report issued late last week, the annual report of the Rocket and Space Corporation Energia says that in 2011 "held a lot of work to identify opportunities for participation of Energia in the creation of U.S. manned spacecraft CST-100 and Orion."

Energia President Vitaly Lopota confirmed to Izvestia the desire to of the corporation to participate in the American project to build spaceships.

"We are in negotiations, Boeing and Lockheed appealed to us so that our development and have a single interface. In principle they are ready to consider various possibilities, including giving us some of the components that we could make," he said.

Results, according to Lopota, are in the process of negotiations have been reached. As an example of possible interaction points of the chapter "Energia" brought the equipment to connect nodes and return capsule heat shield.

Neither Boeing nor Lockheed Martin would comment to Izvestia for the story.

Lockheed Martin is developing the Orion Multipurpose Crew Vehicle under contract to NASA. It is also contracted to provide a composite version of the same vehicle for ATK's Liberty entry in NASA's commercial crew competition. ATK has an unfunded Space Act Agreement with NASA.

Boeing is developing CST-100 spacecraft under a funded Space Act agreement under the commercial crew program.

NASA is set to announce the next round of commercial crew contracts in about two weeks. The space agency will announce full funding for two projects and half funding for a third one.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.07.2012 19:10:17
http://izvestia.ru/news/529149#ixzz1zfP67PNR
Цитата3 июля 2012, 00:05 | Наука | Иван Чеберко
Россия поможет Lockheed и Boeing построить пилотируемые космические корабли

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Корпус корабля Orion. Фото: nasa.gov

Российские компании могут принять участие в создании перспективных американских пилотируемых космических кораблей Orion и CST-100, которые разрабатывают корпорации Lockheed Martin и Boeing. В опубликованном в конце прошлой недели годовом отчете Ракетно-космической корпорации «Энергия» говорится, что в 2011 году «проведен большой объем работ по определению возможности участия «Энергии» в создании американских пилотируемых кораблей CST-100 и Orion».

Президент «Энергии» Виталий Лопота подтвердил «Известиям» желание корпорации принять участие в американских проектах по созданию космических кораблей.

-- Мы ведем переговоры, Boeing и Lockheed обращались к нам, с тем чтобы наши и их разработки имели единые интерфейсы. В принципе они готовы рассматривать различные возможности, в том числе отдавать нам часть компонентов, которые мы могли бы изготавливать, -- рассказал он.

Конкретных результатов, по словам Лопоты, в процессе переговоров пока достигнуто не было. В качестве примера точек возможного взаимодействия глава «Энергии» привел оборудование стыковочных узлов и теплозащиту возвращаемых капсул.

Семиместный космический корабль CST-100 разрабатывается корпорацией Boeing для непродолжительных полетов на низкую околоземную орбиту -- к Международной космической станции и проектируемому туристическому орбитальному комплексу компании Bigelow Aerospace. Boeing планирует осуществить первый старт в 2015 году.

Перед кораблем Orion ставятся гораздо более сложные задачи -- он создается в расчете на более сложные и длительные миссии, такие как полет на Луну, к астероидам, а в перспективе и к Марсу. Lokheed Martin периодически сообщает о трудностях с финансированием (общая смета проекта -- более $8 млрд), из-за чего дата первого старта Orio точно не определена. Сейчас речь идет о 2018 годе как дате его испытательного полета в космос.

В Lokheed Martin и Boeing оперативных комментариев по теме возможного сотрудничества с РКК «Энергия» предоставить не смогли.

Российские эксперты констатируют, что у России есть технологии, которые могут заинтересовать создателей американских космических кораблей.

-- По стыковочным узлам наши наработки вполне конкурентоспособны, -- говорит директор по развитию кластера космических технологий и телекоммуникаций фонда Сколково Дмитрий Пайсон. -- Но есть технический нюанс. В стыковке к американскому сегменту МКС и российскому сегменту заложена разная идеология. К российскому сегменту космические аппараты пристыковываются самостоятельно: стыковочные узлы на российском сегменте рассчитаны на аппарат, который сам подлетает, используя двигатели малой тяги, стыкуется и фиксируется. На американском сегменте нет таких стыковочных узлов, у них вся технология рассчитана на то, что аппарат подходит близко к станции, подхватывается манипулятором с борта и аккуратно насаживается на стыковочный узел. Поэтому если бы Boeing, к примеру, решилась делать стыковочный узел на своем корабле по российской модели, рассчитанной на активные манипуляции самого корабля, то логично бы было прибегнуть к российскому опыту.

Пайсон отмечает, что у американцев давно не было опыта использования теплозащиты на конических одноразовых капсулах и здесь также мы могли бы поделиться своей экспертизой.

-- С этой точки зрения предложение выглядит логичным. Хотя не факт, что американцы его примут -- перед ними стоит задача не только сделать корабль, но и наработать свою компетенцию в данном вопросе, отмечает эксперт.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Луноход от 04.07.2012 19:13:05
ЦитатаВот это номер! :shock:
Я правильно понял, что на CST-100 будет устанавливаться стыковочный узел и теплозащита производства РКК Энергия?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.07.2012 19:14:36
Пока всё вилами по воде. :?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Атака Гризли от 04.07.2012 19:41:11
Цитатаhttp://izvestia.ru/news/529149#ixzz1zfP67PNR
Цитата3 июля 2012, 00:05   |   Наука   |   Иван Чеберко
Россия поможет Lockheed и Boeing построить пилотируемые космические корабли[/size]

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Корпус корабля Orion. Фото: nasa.gov

Российские компании могут принять участие в создании перспективных американских пилотируемых космических кораблей Orion и CST-100, которые разрабатывают корпорации Lockheed Martin и Boeing. В опубликованном в конце прошлой недели годовом отчете Ракетно-космической корпорации «Энергия» говорится, что в 2011 году «проведен большой объем работ по определению возможности участия «Энергии» в создании американских пилотируемых кораблей CST-100 и Orion».

Президент «Энергии» Виталий Лопота подтвердил «Известиям» желание корпорации принять участие в американских проектах по созданию космических кораблей.

-- Мы ведем переговоры, Boeing и Lockheed обращались к нам, с тем чтобы наши и их разработки имели единые интерфейсы. В принципе они готовы рассматривать различные возможности, в том числе отдавать нам часть компонентов, которые мы могли бы изготавливать, -- рассказал он.

Конкретных результатов, по словам Лопоты, в процессе переговоров пока достигнуто не было. В качестве примера точек возможного взаимодействия глава «Энергии» привел оборудование стыковочных узлов и теплозащиту возвращаемых капсул.

Семиместный космический корабль CST-100 разрабатывается корпорацией Boeing для непродолжительных полетов на низкую околоземную орбиту -- к Международной космической станции и проектируемому туристическому орбитальному комплексу компании Bigelow Aerospace. Boeing планирует осуществить первый старт в 2015 году.

Перед кораблем Orion ставятся гораздо более сложные задачи -- он создается в расчете на более сложные и длительные миссии, такие как полет на Луну, к астероидам, а в перспективе и к Марсу. Lokheed Martin периодически сообщает о трудностях с финансированием (общая смета проекта -- более $8 млрд), из-за чего дата первого старта Orio точно не определена. Сейчас речь идет о 2018 годе как дате его испытательного полета в космос.

В Lokheed Martin и Boeing оперативных комментариев по теме возможного сотрудничества с РКК «Энергия» предоставить не смогли.

Российские эксперты констатируют, что у России есть технологии, которые могут заинтересовать создателей американских космических кораблей.

-- По стыковочным узлам наши наработки вполне конкурентоспособны, -- говорит директор по развитию кластера космических технологий и телекоммуникаций фонда Сколково Дмитрий Пайсон. -- Но есть технический нюанс. В стыковке к американскому сегменту МКС и российскому сегменту заложена разная идеология. К российскому сегменту космические аппараты пристыковываются самостоятельно: стыковочные узлы на российском сегменте рассчитаны на аппарат, который сам подлетает, используя двигатели малой тяги, стыкуется и фиксируется. На американском сегменте нет таких стыковочных узлов, у них вся технология рассчитана на то, что аппарат подходит близко к станции, подхватывается манипулятором с борта и аккуратно насаживается на стыковочный узел. Поэтому если бы Boeing, к примеру, решилась делать стыковочный узел на своем корабле по российской модели, рассчитанной на активные манипуляции самого корабля, то логично бы было прибегнуть к российскому опыту.

Пайсон отмечает, что у американцев давно не было опыта использования теплозащиты на конических одноразовых капсулах и здесь также мы могли бы поделиться своей экспертизой.

-- С этой точки зрения предложение выглядит логичным. Хотя не факт, что американцы его примут -- перед ними стоит задача не только сделать корабль, но и наработать свою компетенцию в данном вопросе, отмечает эксперт.[/size]
Опять заголовок не соотвествует тексту.
В заголовке "поможет", в тексте "может помочь"...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 04.07.2012 19:43:54
Цитатаhttp://izvestia.ru/news/529149#ixzz1zfP67PNR
Цитата3 июля 2012, 00:05   |   Наука   |   Иван Чеберко
Россия поможет Lockheed и Boeing построить пилотируемые космические корабли[/size]

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Так вот ты какой... ПТК НП  :lol:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 05.08.2012 12:30:34
ЦитатаBoeing Statement on NASA Commercial Crew Award[/size]
Posted by Doug Messier on August 3, 2012, at 6:37 am

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Aug. 3, 2012 (Boeing PR) - Boeing has received notification that NASA will invest $460 million for further development of the Boeing Commercial Crew Transportation System in the third round of the Commercial Crew Program: Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap). Boeing will complete development milestones to further mature the integrated system -- including the CST-100 spacecraft, launch services and ground systems -- to prepare for certification and operations.

"This award will enable us to build on the successes achieved in our Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) and CCDev-2 work for effective development through Critical Design Review, as we progress toward human rating and certification," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Programs. "We look forward to providing a complete end-to-end transportation service to support NASA crew transportation to and from the International Space Station (ISS), and fostering a growing market for commercial transportation to other low Earth orbit destinations."

The CCiCap award addresses development milestones to be completed in a 21-month base period, with the potential for additional milestones in a subsequent options period. Under CCDev and CCDev-2, Boeing has successfully completed tests on engines, abort systems, propulsion, heat shield jettison, attitude control systems and landing to provide full data on functional elements of the spacecraft's design.

"Today's award demonstrates NASA's confidence in Boeing's approach to provide commercial crew transportation services for the ISS," said John Elbon, Boeing vice president and general manager of Space Exploration. "It is essential for the ISS and the nation that we have adequate funding to move at a rapid pace toward operations so the United States does not continue its dependence on a single system for human access to the ISS."

Boeing's safe, reliable Commercial Crew Transportation System draws on practices, expertise and resources from across the Boeing enterprise and five decades of experience in human spaceflight. It is supported by professional personnel and flight-demonstrated systems and technologies. Boeing is preparing for its initial test flight with a United Launch Alliance Atlas V launch vehicle as early as 2016.

Boeing's online press kit at www.boeing.com/bds/mediakit/2012/commercialcrew/ contains program backgrounders, biographies and a link to high-resolution photos.

Visit www.beyondearth.com for more information about the future of human space exploration.
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/08/03/boeing-statement-on-nasa-commercial-crew-award/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.08.2012 21:42:32
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/08/13/a-closer-look-at-boeings-commercial-crew-program-ccicap-milestones/
ЦитатаA Closer Look at Boeing's CCiCAP Milestones
Posted by Doug Messier
on August 13, 2012, at 7:22 am

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BOEING COMMERCIAL CREW PROGRAM

Overview

Company: Boeing
Spacecraft: CST-100
Type: Capsule with service module
Crew Capacity: 7
Launch Vehicle: Atlas V (United Launch Alliance)
CCiCAP Funding: $460 million
CCiCAP Term: 21 months
Previous CCDev Funding (including optional milestones): $130.9 million (Boeing), $6.7 million (ULA)
Total CCDev and CCiCAP Funding (if all milestones met): $590.6 million (Boeing), $6.7 million (ULA)

CCiCAP Milestones

Boeing has 19 milestones to meet during the 21-month CCiCAP program, more than SpaceX (14) and Sierra Nevada (10). The g0al is to take the CST-100 capsule and its ULA-supplied Atlas V rocket through a critical design review in April 2014. If B0eing completes all milestones, NASA will pay it $460 million.

The company has 35 optional milestone in its plan that could earn Boeing additional awards if the company completes them and NASA has funding available. During the CCDev 2 funding round, the company earned an additional $20.6 million on top of the $92.3 million Boeing was awarded for making its base milestones.

A full listing of the 19 milestones is shown below, with redacted areas noted. The 35 optional milestones have been redacted for competitive reasons, so they are not shown here.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 14.08.2012 06:57:55
Эта новомодная манера выводить в потоке приводит к тому, что КК стряхивает туеву хучу заглушек и крышычек, причем часть может отделяться только при первом срабатывании ДПО, добавляя к опасному космическому мусору.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: avmich от 14.08.2012 08:35:35
ЦитатаЭта новомодная манера выводить в потоке приводит к тому, что КК стряхивает туеву хучу заглушек и крышычек, причем часть может отделяться только при первом срабатывании ДПО, добавляя к опасному космическому мусору.

А нельзя сбрасывать на низкой орбите, где эти лёгкие предметы продержатся с неделю?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 14.08.2012 08:08:12
ЦитатаА нельзя сбрасывать на низкой орбите, где эти лёгкие предметы продержатся с неделю?
Скорее всего так и получится, но хотелось бы знать точно. Носовой конус сбрасывается еще до того, как достигнута замкнутая орбита, с этим проблем не будет. Я про мелочевку, в особенности заглушки на передних двигателях "собачих будок".
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 30.08.2012 03:53:24
Цитата
ЦитатаА нельзя сбрасывать на низкой орбите, где эти лёгкие предметы продержатся с неделю?
Скорее всего так и получится, но хотелось бы знать точно. Носовой конус сбрасывается еще до того, как достигнута замкнутая орбита, с этим проблем не будет. Я про мелочевку, в особенности заглушки на передних двигателях "собачих будок".
В принципе несложно сделать так, чтобы они сбрасывались по падению давления. Внутрь немножко легкокипучей жидкости - и тогда при выходе из атмосферы все крышки улетят...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SpaceR от 31.08.2012 01:41:00
Цитата
ЦитатаА нельзя сбрасывать на низкой орбите, где эти лёгкие предметы продержатся с неделю?
Скорее всего так и получится, но хотелось бы знать точно. Носовой конус сбрасывается еще до того, как достигнута замкнутая орбита, с этим проблем не будет. Я про мелочевку, в особенности заглушки на передних двигателях "собачих будок".
Это легко решается - выбором опорной орбиты и размеров/массы крышек (определяющих их баллистич.коэф-нт). Думаю, если материал близок к пенопластам, а опорная орбита имеет перигей ~185 км, то эта мелочевка не продержится в космосе и 5 дней.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 02.09.2012 16:23:12
Boeing Tests CST-100 Parachute Protector
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http://www.parabolicarc.com/2012/08/30/boeing-tests-cst-100-parachute-protector/#more-42377
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=988554#988554
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.09.2012 11:05:45
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/flight-not-guaranteed-for-boeings-commercial-crew-capsule-376515/

Flight not guaranteed for Boeing's commercial crew capsule


By: Zach Rosenberg Los Angeles
06:00 17 Sep 2012

Boeing may yet shelve future development of its CST-100 capsule, despite a recent award of more than $460 million from NASA's programme to transport astronauts to the International Space Station (ISS).

"Our base business case is based on transportation to ISS through 2020," says John Elbon, Boeing's vice-president of space exploration. Though not formalised, the company requires at least two flights per year from NASA to make the project viable.

"That's just for the ISS. That's kind of the basement," adds Elbon. More flights than those to the ISS are required he says, and Boeing is cautious about over-committing itself while future revenue streams are unclear.

NASA has funding for two full awards and one partial award in the commercial crew integrated capability (CCiCap) programme, to be doled out gradually according to established technical milestones. The two full grants were awarded to Boeing and SpaceX, while Sierra Nevada Corporation won the partial award.

Attached to each space act agreement, as the contracts are known, is an extensive list of optional milestones that takes the companies into flight testing.

While Boeing stands to gain at least $460 million by completing all 19 milestones during the 21-month base period, which would bring the CST-100 through the critical design review stage, an undisclosed, but significant, amount of additional funding may be gained through accomplishing 33 optional milestones.

But the base-period investment alone may not be enough for Boeing to justify continued funding, which may bring CST-100 development to an end.

While the cut-off point "wouldn't be at the end of this base period", says Elbon, it may be in the following option period.

"It's more important to have a definite market there. Obviously Boeing has significant resources, and if there's a business caseit's important that it's clear NASA is committed to the commercial crew programme going forward, that they're going to use it for flights to the ISS, and that we can grow some markets around that."

Boeing is working closely with space station manufacturer Bigelow Aerospace and orbital tourism company Space Adventures in an attempt to secure non-NASA revenue. While Bigelow and Space Adventures have racked up tangible success, neither has yet demonstrated a requirement for regular passenger trips into orbit.

The CCiCap contenders' business cases were among the criteria by which NASA evaluated their proposals. In a NASA justification document released after the selection announcement, Boeing's business case was described in "neutral" terms. It says: "Proposed corporate investment during the CCiCap period does not provide significant industry financial investment and there is an increased risk of having insufficient funding in the base period."

Boeing programme manager John Mulholland said it was difficult to compare the contributions made by companies. He said: "We are only counting things that are direct monetary contributions as an investment, we have a very conservative guideline that we use for what we call true investment. There is a lot of additional contributions we are making to the programme beyond that cash infusion."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 30.12.2012 13:04:08
HOUSTON, Texas. -- Boeing and NASA recently established the firm baseline configuration for the company's Commercial Crew Transportation System, achieving the first performance milestone in NASA's Commercial Crew integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative.
During the Integrated Systems Review, Boeing's approaches to the spacecraft, launch system and ground operations were evaluated for compliance with NASA's requirements, including safety and mission assurance, avionics and software, International Space Station (ISS) integration, and crew and mission operations. Boeing also presented results from current development data from tests with its Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 vehicle.
"The rigor of our design and development process, along with resources from across the Boeing enterprise and our outstanding team of suppliers, will position the CST-100 spacecraft as the next crew transportation vehicle to the ISS and other low Earth orbit destinations," said John Mulholland, Commercial Programs vice president and program manager for Boeing.
"Our industry partners are gearing up to push their human spaceflight technologies further than ever before so America can have its own crew transportation system around the middle of the decade," said Ed Mango, Commercial Crew program manager for NASA. "This review was just the first of many exciting and valuable milestones Boeing is expected to complete during its funded partnership with NASA."
The CCiCap phase of the Commercial Crew program addresses development milestones to be completed in a 21-month base period, with the potential for additional milestones in a subsequent options period. Having completed more than 50 milestones in the previous two phases of the program, Boeing is continuing to mature the development of its Commercial Crew Transportation System to provide safe, reliable and affordable access to the ISS.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.01.2013 13:10:25
http://www.astronautical.org/node/191 (http://www.astronautical.org/node/191)
Von Braun 2012 Presentations:
 
John Elbon, Vice President and General Manager, Space Exploration, The  (http://www.astronautical.org/sites/default/files/attachment/elbon%20-%2011am.pdf)Boeing  Company (http://www.astronautical.org/sites/default/files/attachment/elbon%20-%2011am.pdf)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 08.02.2013 12:24:19
http://www.newspacewatch.com/articles/faa-conf-wed-afternoon-pt-2-notes.html
ЦитатаFAA Conf. Wed Afternoon, pt. 2 - notes
 
February 6 2013 09:57:16 PM[/B] | by Clark Lindsey, Managing Editor
   
      Mark Sirangelo introduces panel for commercial crew and cargo. (Phil McAlister of NASA had flight problems)
    Chris Ferguson (Boeing) - update on commercial crew
 
    [/li]
  •       Describes CST-100 system
  •       Will fly up to 10 flights
  •       Crew module and service module
  •       Return onto land with chutes and airbags
  •       Abort survival throughout launch
  •       Pusher abort system used for in-orbit propulsion
  •       Typical mission could have four crew and some cargo
  •       Atlas V launcher
  •       Wide cross range
  •       Looking for optional landing sites
  •       Describes landing drop tests
  •       CCiCap progress
  •       Integrating systems
  •       Building towards critical design review in spring 2014
  •       Modifying OPF-3 at KSC for building the vehicle
  •       Shows video of highlights of testing in the past year or so
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 19.02.2013 15:29:05
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/02/18/boeing-nasa-close-in-on-cst-100-launch-vehicle-adapter-design/
ЦитатаBoeing, NASA Close in on CST-100 Launch Vehicle Adapter Design
Posted by Doug Messier on February 18, 2013, at 10:29 am in News
 
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This is an artist's conception of Boeing's CST-100 spacecraft separating from the first stage of its launch vehicle, a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket, following liftoff from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. (Credit: Boeing)

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FLA. (NASA PR) - NASA's Commercial Crew Program and The Boeing Company are focusing on the Launch Vehicle Adapter design as they close in on plans for the component that will connect the company's CST-100 capsule to the United Launch Alliance Atlas V booster which will lift it into orbit. NASA's Partner Integration Team, also called a PIT crew, is working with Boeing to successfully complete a preliminary design review for the adapter at the end of this month.

The CST-100, short for Crew Space Transportation-100, is designed to carry astronauts to the International Space Station. Boeing is working closely with NASA on the development of its integrated crew transportation system under a Space Act Agreement, while certification efforts are taking place under a contract.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 19.03.2013 14:25:33
ЦитатаCST-100 TEAM COMPLETES COCKPIT LAYOUT EVALUATION

Progress continues with Boeing's Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 spacecraft as the team completed a three-day interior layout evaluation  at Boeing's Houston Product Support Center (HPSC) mockup facility. This test marks another step closer to meeting the requirements for NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) Space Act Agreement. During the evaluation, NASA astronauts provided comments on the interior layout and evaluated the reach and visibility of the controls and displays.
"We were excited to have the opportunity to participate in Boeing's Cockpit Layout Evaluation of the CST-100," said NASA Astronaut Michael Foreman. "Hopefully, our comments and suggestions will help them in their design and we look forward to further collaborations throughout this iterative process."
The astronauts also provided valuable comments on the design of the crew seats, interior lighting, and how to improve the layout for Crew Resource Management to ensure that the Boeing product satisfies all potential customers.
"Incorporating the opinion of veteran spacecraft operators is essential to ensuring our design is appealing to our NASA customer," said Christopher Ferguson, director of Crew and Mission Operations for the CST-100. "NASA's excellent comments will be incorporated into the cockpit design to help make the Boeing vehicle intuitive and easy to operate."  

The CST-100 team has met additional CCiCap milestones including the Software Integrated Engineering Release 2.0 and the Landing & Recovery Ground Communications Design Review. The CCiCap period of performance culminates in the spring of 2014 with the Critical Design Review Board.  Boeing is preparing for its initial test flight with a United Launch Alliance Atlas V launch vehicle as early as 2016.


http://www.beyondearth.com/spotlight/cst-100-team-completes-cockpit-layout-evaluation

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 19.03.2013 14:46:33
короткий перевод с помощью гуггл:


Команда CST-100 завершает оценку компоновки кокпита

Команда CST-100 завершила трехдневную оценку интерьера макета в Хьюстоне. Этот тест знаменует собой еще один шаг на пути к выполнению требований для коммерческих экипажей НАСА для CCiCap. Во время оценки, астронавты НАСА сделали замечания по внутренней планировке и оценили досягаемость и видимость индикаторов управления.
"Мы были взволнованы иметь возможность участвовать в оценке кабины CST-100", сказал астронавт НАСА Майкл Форман. «Надеюсь, наши замечания и предложения, помогут им в их разработке, и мы надеемся на дальнейшее сотрудничество в этом процессе".
Астронавты также дали ценные замечания по конструкции кресел, внутреннему освещению, и по улучшению макета для управления ресурсами экипажа, чтобы убедиться, что продукт Boeing удовлетворяет всем потенциальным клиентам.
"Мнение ветерана оператора космических аппаратов является привлекательным для NASA", сказал Кристофер Фергюсон. "Отличные замечания NASA будут использованы в кабине дизайна, чтобы помочь сделать корабль Boeing интуитивно понятный и простой в эксплуатации".
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 20.03.2013 10:24:53
Этой фотографии в июле исполнится 2 года. На 4 странице темы есть очень похожая  ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 20.03.2013 10:26:23
Вот актуальное фото

13 января 2013г
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Yutani от 20.03.2013 18:24:58
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Вот актуальное фото
13 января 2013г
Эта фотка была в вышеуказанной статье, только в маленьком разрешении, не стал искать большое, и загрузил, которое было под рукой.  :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 22.03.2013 17:15:16
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/pdf/729442main_feb22-2013.pdf
ЦитатаCST-100 reviews road to mission operations

The Boeing Company's plans for its CST-100 spacecraft continue to firm up as the aerospace company works with NASA's Commercial Crew Program (CCP) to establish what will be needed to communicate with the spacecraft and recover it when it returns from a mission.
The capsule-shaped spacecraft is on track to launch to low-Earth orbit atop a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Florida's Space Coast around the middle of the decade. It is designed to hold enough crew members to allow the spaceship to operate as a taxi and lifeboat on missions to the International Space Station.
The company, one of three NASA is working with to establish a commercial industry to ferry astronauts to and from the orbiting laboratory, recently completed its fifth performance milestone and two in-depth reviews as part of the CST-100's development.
The latest review milestone under the funded Space Act Agreement with NASA during the Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCi-Cap) initiative at Boeing's facility in Titusville, Fla., established the baseline plan for the equipment and infrastructure needed to run spacecraft ground communications, and landing and recovery operations.
The company also completed back-to-back production design and "phase 1" safety reviews in November, which allowed agency managers and engineers to analyze safety and support systems being designed for the CST, short for Crew Space Transportation.
"The safety review showed some ways Boeing is mitigating and controlling hazards in the preliminary design review level of the integrated design," said Gennaro Caliendo of CCP's Partner Integration Office.
"Boeing has a great deal of experience in the human spaceflight business and has been integral in helping develop future spacecraft for our national capability."
The third review covered Boeing's progress in developing the By Bob Granath Spaceport News ground portions of mission operations software.
"It gave us an opportunity to look at how they are moving ahead and to provide input to their roducts," Caliendo said. "Innovation and ingenuity of commercial companies will be important, but since NASA will be purchasing a transportation service to the space station, we have requirements that companies eventually will have to meet if they plan on competing for services in the future."
The design of the CST-100 resembles NASA's legacy Apollo command and service modules. However, the CST-100 crew module is larger with a greater habitable interior with the capacity to carry up to seven astronauts or four astronauts and cargo, compared to the three sent on the lunar missions of the 1960s and '70s. It also is designed for reusability for up to ten missions.
The service module is considerably smaller than Apollo because it doesn't need a propulsion engine capable of getting it back from the moon. That also reduces the amount of equipment and consumables necessary for exclusively low-Earth orbit missions.
Recent analyses of landing systems have taken place in Delamar Dry Lake in Nevada, proving the CST-100 can return to Earth with three parachutes, as was the case with Apollo. Just prior to landing, air bags will deploy on the bottom of the spacecraft allowing a safe touchdown on the ground. To add flexibility, the CST-100 also can return for a water landing.
Boeing currently is on schedule to complete a total of 19 milestones during the base period of its CCiCap agreement. The company will be designing both flight and ground systems hardware, writing and testing code for flight software, developing ground communications systems, and performing wind tunnel tests. All of the work leads up to a Critical Design Review scheduled for April 2014 prior to optional qualification and flight demonstration milestones.
"The CDR will be an integrated systems review," Caliendo said. "We'll be looking at how the spacecraft is integrated with the launch vehicle, ground systems, and everything needed to manufacture, process, launch, fly and return the CST-100."
Bill Lane, deputy partner manager in CCP's Partner Integration Office, said the recent reviews are ensuring that NASA's new initiative remains on track.
"These reviews provided the foundation of capsule production, processing and flight operations," Lane said. "The teams have worked very hard to identify hardware, software and mission operations requirements that will be necessary to ensure flight safety starting from the initial production and continuing through the full life-cycle of the capsule."
NASA's new CCiCap agreements follow two previous commercial endeavors by the agency to spur the development of crew transportation systems and subsystems. Work by NASA's industry partners during CCiCap will set the stage for a crewed orbital demonstration mission around the middle of the decade.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 06.04.2013 18:03:16
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/04/05/nasa-commercial-crew-partner-boeing-completes-launch-vehicle-adapter-review/
ЦитатаNASA Commercial Crew Partner Boeing Completes Launch Vehicle Adapter Review
Posted by Doug Messier
on April 5, 2013, at 2:43 pm

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An artist concept of Boeing's CST-100 spacecraft atop its integrated launch vehicle, United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rocket. (Credit: Boeing)

An artist concept of Boeing's CST-100 spacecraft atop its integrated launch vehicle, United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rocket. (Credit: Boeing)

HOUSTON (NASA PR) - The Boeing Company of Houston, a NASA Commercial Crew Program (CCP) partner, has successfully completed a preliminary design review (PDR) of the component that would connect the company's new crew capsule to its rocket.

The review is one of six performance milestones Boeing has completed for NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, which is intended to make available commercial human spaceflight services for government and commercial customers. The company is on track to complete all 19 of its milestones during CCiCap.

Boeing is one of three U.S. companies NASA is working with during CCiCap to set the stage for a crewed orbital demonstration mission around the middle of the decade. Future development and certification initiatives eventually will lead to the availability of human spaceflight services for NASA to send its astronauts to the International Space Station.

The component that was reviewed is called the Launch Vehicle Adapter. The critical structure is being designed by United Launch Alliance (ULA) to join Boeing's Crew Space Transportation-100 (CST-100) spacecraft to ULA's Atlas V rocket, just above the rocket's second stage.

"Solid systems engineering integration is critical to the design of a safe system," said Ed Mango, NASA's CCP manager. "Boeing and all of NASA's partner companies are working to build in proper systems integration into their designs. This review with Boeing and their partner ULA was a good review of the current state of these important design interfaces."

In recent weeks, teams from NASA, Boeing and ULA met at ULA's headquarters in Denver, Colo., to assess requirements and capabilities to safely launch people into low-Earth orbit from U.S. soil once again. The PDR was a culmination of early development and preliminary analysis to demonstrate the design is ready to proceed with detailed engineering.

"The PDR was an outstanding integrated effort by the Boeing, ULA and NASA teams," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Programs. "The ULA design leverages the heritage hardware of the Atlas V to integrate with the CST-100, setting the baseline for us to proceed to wind tunnel testing and the Launch Segment-level PDR in June."

In addition to the Launch Vehicle Adapter PDR, Boeing recently completed two additional CCiCap milestones, including the Engineering Release (ER) 2.0 software release and the Landing and Recovery Ground Systems and Ground Communications design review.

The ER 2.0 software release was completed Jan. 25 in Boeing's Avionics and Software Integration Facility Lab in Houston. This test laid the foundation for the software structure to control and fly the spacecraft, as well as communicate with pilots and ground systems.

The landing and recovery ground systems and ground communications design review Jan. 16 to 18 in Titusville, Fla., established the baseline plan for equipment and infrastructure needed for CST-100 spacecraft ground communications and landing and recovery operations.

For more information about NASA's Commercial Crew Program and its aerospace industry partners, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 09.04.2013 09:12:23
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/718299main_CCP-Status-Update-1-9-13-finalSM.pdf
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: frigate от 09.04.2013 03:14:55
Boeing Crew Capsule Review Clears Way For Wind Tunnel Testing

Boeingis set to begin detailed wind tunnel tests of its Crew Space Transportation (CST-100) spacecraft following a 
successful preliminary design review of the launch vehicle adapter structure.
The CST-100 is designed to carry crews to the International Space Station as well as take space tourists to the Bigelow Aerospace orbital space complex, and could make its first test flight as early as 2016.
Completion of the review marks a key milestone for Boeing, which is developing the CST-100 under a Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) agreement with NASA. Boeing, along with competitors SpaceX and Sierra Nevada, was awarded a contract for this follow-on phase to the Commercial Crew Development 2 (CCDev-2) program last August.
The Launch Vehicle Adapter is being designed by United Launch Alliance (ULA), maker ofthe Atlas V rocket that will deliver CST-100 to orbit. Boeing says detailed engineering of the adapter can now begin as it continues to progress toward the first of two planned test flights of the CST-100.
John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing Commercial Crew Programs, says the review also "sets the baseline for us to proceed to wind tunnel testing and the launch segment review in June."
Boeing says that two additional CCiCap milestones were also completed earlier this year. These included the engineering 2.0 software release, which "lays the groundwork for spacecraft control and communications," the company says.
The second was the Landing and Recovery Ground Systems and Ground Communications design review, which
establishes a plan for the equipment and infrastructure needed for ground communications and landing and recovery operations. - Guy Norris (guy_norris@aviationweek.com)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.04.2013 07:41:46
5 мест на этой картинке, вероятно, попытка открестится от прошлогодней 4х местной конфигурации
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.04.2013 07:45:53
Двойные баллоны - при ударе в наружних выбивает крышки-пробки. А потом капсула прыгает на внутренних ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 04.05.2013 19:15:21
Еще одна фотка "внутреннего убранства" капсулы. На этот раз сделана через люк.
   
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Источник - статья о Роберте Бигелоу http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-02/robert-bigelow-plans-a-real-estate-empire-in-space
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.05.2013 16:21:27
Куколки астронавтов по коробочкам, повтор 2009года. Давно уже Боингу платит не Роберт Бигелоу, а НАСА  ;)   Потому и дело идет

Вот еще куколки
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 04.05.2013 20:28:59
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Давно уже Боингу платит не Роберт Бигелоу, а НАСА  ;)  Потому и дело идет
А какая разница, тем более, что свое Бигелоу уже заплатил, а НАСА по этому договору не будет компенсировать более 50% стоимости проекта? Получается, что платят Боинг и Бигелоу.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 04.05.2013 16:33:55
Торжество свободного предпринимательства блин. На двухк конях скакать седалища не хватит. Пусть пузырями занимается. Ему еще трем фирмам платить.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 04.05.2013 21:57:48
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
На двухк конях скакать седалища не хватит.
А, если подумать, то Бигелоу для его "отеля" необходимы не менее двух "такси", так что его сотрудничество с двумя конкурирующими фирмами вполне оправдано. Не говоря уже о том, что таким образом он в какой-то мере страхует себя от убийственного для егобизнеса повышения цен на услуги "такси".
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2013 03:57:47
Скока Бигелоу платит Боингу за CST-100? Любую цифру с источником плз. ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 05.05.2013 08:59:28
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Скока Бигелоу платит Боингу за CST-100? Любую цифру с источником плз.  ;)  
Без разницы. Мог даже не заплатить, а сшить аэробэги. Важно, что это устроило Боинг. Зато цену полета на свою станцию на его корабле Бигелоу уже озвучил.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2013 06:02:55
Нету цифры. Q.E.D.

Мне значительно более интересны "штаны" для сопел MLAS в переходнике.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 06.05.2013 03:03:51
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Нету цифры. Q.E.D.

Мне значительно более интересны "штаны" для сопел MLAS в переходнике.
 
Чеи они интересны? И зачем они нужны? Разделение с работающими двигателями?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 05.05.2013 16:07:30
Они в состыкованном виде работают только как ДУ САС. Напротив "штанов" должны быть люки, направляющие факел в сторону от верхней ступени. на рисунке чтото такое видно. ИМХО
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 01.06.2013 14:35:13
http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/crew/gallery/2012-09-14-2.html

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: instml от 01.06.2013 14:38:29
Boeing Completes New Spacecraft, Rocket Milestones
05.31.13

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Image above: Shown is the integrated model at NASA's Ames Research Center. The model is a 7 percent model of the Boeing CST-100 spacecraft, launch vehicle adaptor and launch vehicle.
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 The Boeing Company of Houston, a NASA Commercial Crew Program (CCP) partner, recently performed wind tunnel testing of its CST-100 spacecraft and integrated launch vehicle, the United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket. The testing is part of NASA's Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, intended to make commercial human spaceflight services available for government and commercial customers.

 Boeing and ULA also worked together to test a newly developed component of the Atlas V's Centaur upper stage. Boeing now has completed two of eight performance milestones under CCiCap and is on track to have completed all 19 of its milestones around mid-2014.

 "The Centaur has a long and storied past of launching the agency's most successful spacecraft to other worlds," said Ed Mango, NASA's CCP manager at the agency's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. "Because it has never been used for human spaceflight before, these tests are critical to ensuring a smooth and safe performance for the crew members who will be riding atop the human-rated Atlas V."

 The wind tunnel testing, which began in March and wrapped up in May at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif., were the first interface tests of Boeing's spacecraft, launch vehicle adaptor and launch vehicle. A scale model of the integrated spacecraft and rocket was placed in Ames' 11-foot diameter transonic wind tunnel. The data gathered provides Boeing with critical information it needs to ensure its system is safe for launching crews to low-Earth orbit.

 The Centaur liquid oxygen-feed duct line was tested in March in Murrieta, Calif., to characterize how liquid oxygen moves fr om the stage's oxygen tank to its two engines wh ere the propellant will be mixed with liquid hydrogen to create thrust. The Centaur, which takes over after the Atlas V first stage runs low on propellants, will push the spacecraft to its intended orbit. The Centaur has an extensive and successful history of delivering spacecraft to their destinations, including carrying NASA's Curiosity science rover to Mars.

 "The CST-100 and Atlas V, connected with the launch vehicle adaptor, performed exactly as expected and confirmed our expectations of how they will perform together in flight," said John Mulholland, Boeing vice president and program manager for Commercial Programs.

 Boeing is one of three U.S. companies NASA is working with during CCiCap to set the stage for a crewed orbital demonstration mission around the middle of the decade. Future development and certification initiatives eventually will lead to the availability of human spaceflight services for NASA to send astronauts to the International Space Station from the United States.

http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/crew/boeing_ula_lox.html
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 17.07.2013 11:21:09
ЦитатаNASA Partner Boeing Invites Media to View CST-100 Spacecraft Mockup 
 
 HOUSTON -- The Boeing Company of Houston is inviting media to view a full-size test version of its CST-100 spacecraft as NASA astronauts conduct evaluations inside it.
The event will begin at 10:30 a.m. CDT Monday, July 22, at the company's Houston Product Support Center at 13100 Space Center Boulevard.





Название: CST-100
Отправлено: bavv от 20.07.2013 04:13:46
ЦитатаBoeing CST-100 spacecraft model passes water-recovery tests (http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=13&item=2299)

HOUSTON, July 19, 2013 - Boeing [NYSE: BA] recently demonstrated that astronauts in its Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 capsule will be able to safely exit the spacecraft during an emergency water landing.

Although the CST-100 is designed to land on the ground, Boeing engineers worked with NASA and Department of Defense search-and-recovery personnel to test several emergency water-extraction scenarios.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 22.07.2013 23:48:12
ЦитатаNASA Astronauts Test Out Boeing's CST-100 Spacecraft (http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/07/22/nasa-astronauts-test-out-boeings-cst-100-spacecraft/)
             
  Posted by Doug Messier (http://www.parabolicarc.com/author/doug/) on July 22, 2013, at 9:28 am in News (http://www.parabolicarc.com/category/news/)
                                                                    
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NASA astronaut climbs aboard a mock-up CST-100 spacecraft July 22 at The Boeing Company's Houston Product Support Center. (Credit: NASA)

 NASA astronaut Serena Aunon put on her iconic orange launch-and-entry suit and climbed aboard The Boeing Company's CST-100 mock-up to perform fit checks of the spacecraft's interior. Aunon is one of two astronauts who will spend a few hours inside the capsule to test maneuverability while Boeing engineers monitor communications equipment, ergonomics and crew interfaces.
Boeing is one of three aerospace industry partners working with NASA's Commercial Crew Program (CCP) during its Commercial Crew Integrated Capability (CCiCap) initiative, which is intended to make commercial human spaceflight services available for government and commercial customers. Stay tuned this afternoon to the CCP website for the first look at the interior of the CST-100.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 22.07.2013 23:53:04
http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/07/ars-hops-in-boeings-commercial-space-spaceship-the-cst-100/
ЦитатаArs hops in Boeing's "commercial space" spaceship, the CST-100
       
We got some cockpit time in the full-size demonstrator spacecraft in Houston.
       
           by Lee Hutchinson (http://arstechnica.com/author/lee-hutchinson/) - July 23 2013, 1:00am      
               
 Boeing took the curtain off its proposed commercial spacecraft this morning, allowing a limited number of press and media into one of its Houston facilities to crawl around inside a high-fidelity mockup. The spacecraft, designated the CST-100 (for "Crew Space Transportation" ), is a large capsule, resembling a scaled-up version of the iconic Apollo command module.
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Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-capsule.jpg) / The CST-100 mockup on display at Boeing's Houston Product Support Center in Clear Lake, TX.
 Lee Hutchinson

 The CST-100 seats up to seven astronauts and will primarily be used to transport people to and fr om destinations in Low Earth Orbit ("LEO" ), such as the International Space Station. CST-100 is designed specifically as a LEO transport, but Low Earth Orbit is only one of a much larger set of potential destinations that Boeing and other commercial space flight companies hope to target, extending all the way out to interplanetary space. According to Boeing Space Exploration Vice President and General Manager John Elbon, each destination has its own set of requirements and challenges. So CST-100 is Boeing's attempt at creating a spacecraft specifically designed to be a LEO workhorse.
The capsule itself sits bedecked with ladders and cameras elevated on a stand in the high bay of Boeing's Houston Product Support center. When the press first approached the spacecraft, astronaut Serena Auñón (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serena_Aunon) was still strapped into one of the mockup's two seats, performing an evaluation of how her bright orange ACES (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Crew_Escape_Suit) flight suit worked with the spacecraft's internal layout. The press quickly mobbed her when she emerged from the craft and stepped down the ladder. When asked, Auñón reported that she was pleased with the cockpit and the work done so far.
 (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-aunon-640x426.jpg) (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-aunon.jpg)
Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-aunon.jpg) / NASA astronaut Serena Auñón emerges from testing the orange ACER suit inside of the CST-100 mockup.
 Lee Hutchinson
 
The ship

 CST-100 isn't the only capsule-shaped spacecraft attempting to make its way into orbit these days. NASA's official successor to the space shuttle is the Orion Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28spacecraft%29), designed and manufactured for NASA by Lockheed Martin. The Orion MPCV itself evolved from the 2006 "bake-off" Crew Exploration Vehicle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_exploration_vehicle) competition between Lockheed Martin and Boeing; Lockheed Martin ultimately beat Boeing and won the contract.
Some amount of Boeing's CEV capsule design work evolved into today's CST-100, but the new vehicle shares no common hardware with the CEV concept--it was developed separately under NASA's Commercial Crew integrated Capability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCiCap#Commercial_Crew_integrated_Capability) program (or "CCiCAP," as it's called). Boeing's CST-100 is one of three spacecraft being developed for the program, with the other two being Sierra Nevada Corporation's Dream Chaser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Chaser) lifting body craft and SpaceX's Dragon (http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/03/spacex-dragon-returns-officially-completing-a-second-iss-resupply-trip/) capsule (which has already successfully flown to space and docked with the ISS, albeit in an unmanned configuration).
CST-100 eschews the space shuttle's tile-based thermal protection system, instead using for its heat shield a phenolic resin-based structure that burns away ("ablates" ) during re-entry. This approach is also used by the Orion MPCV and avoids the tremendous touch-labor expense that the space shuttle's tiles incurred prior to every launch. The craft is reusable too. After a mission it is designed to be refurbished and refitted and relaunched up to 10 times. This makes it more flexible and cost-efficient than the original capsules of the 1960s, and at the same time it avoids incurring the huge total refit costs that the space shuttle brought with it.
 
In the cockpit

 I slipped on the required blue paper surgical booties and scrambled up the ladder ahead of the rest of the journalists, since unlike most of them, I hadn't brought along a film crew and tons of equipment. The hatch was a narrow affair, and I quickly found myself puzzled at how Auñón wiggled into the spacecraft in her bulky ACES suit--I was having a hard enough time in slacks and a dress shirt. Once inside, the space was extremely tight, and I found myself wishing I'd brought a wider lens; I tried to picture cramming seven astronauts and their suits and gear into the space. Microgravity would make it a lot easier, of course, but it would definitely be a crowded ride.
 (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-inside-640x426.jpg) (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-inside.jpg)
Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-inside.jpg) / The interior of CST-100, seen from the hatch. This space is intended to hold up to seven astronauts--though in microgravity, it'll seem a lot bigger.
 Lee Hutchinson

 Most of the items in the mockup's interior are themselves mockups; the control panel was present but mostly made up of nonfunctioning switches and colored cardboard and paper buttons. I gamely slid my way into the commander's seat and posed for pictures, then squirmed out and made way for the other journalists. The interior was dominated by struts and stowage bags, though there were convenient blue-colored hand-holds placed throughout that we all had to use to drag our way over each other, with many mumbled "excuse mes" and "sorrys."
 (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-cockpit-640x426.jpg) (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-cockpit.jpg)
Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-cockpit.jpg) / I squeezed into the lower deck and snapped this shot aiming up at the two seats. There was not a lot of space to move around inside the mockup.
 Lee Hutchinson

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Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-brb.jpg) / BRB GOING TO SPACE
 Lee Hutchinson
 
Cheaper and off the shelf

 Cost savings is one of the largest driving forces behind the spacecraft's design--second only to safety. As much as possible, the CST-100 capsule uses "COTS" components (a popular aerospace acronym standing for "Commercial, Off-the-Shelf" ), even in its avionics. Boeing Space Exploration vice president (and former astronaut (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Ferguson)) Chris Ferguson spoke in detail about the control consoles and instrumentation Boeing is planning on using for the CST-100. The plan is to equip astronauts with an "electronic flight bag," much in the same way that commercial airline pilots these days are being equipped with iPads and other consumer tablet hardware for all of their checklists and documentation.
Ferguson explained, in fact, that Boeing plans to use the same type of commercial touchscreen hardware--iPads, or Microsoft Surface tablets, or Android tablets--whichever company is willing to work with Boeing on the design. "If Apple comes to us and says 'Hey, we want you to use our product, and we're willing to do this and this and this,' well, hey, a tablet's a tablet, really!" he said. One of the big factors, though, is matching existing systems on the International Space Station and also upcoming flight systems in the Orion MPCV. Boeing wants there to be as much commonality as possible, so crews will be able to switch between spacecraft and space station without needing huge amounts of additional training. But as far as looking like previous spacecraft, like the space shuttle, CST-100 will be very, very different.
 (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-ferguson-640x426.jpg) (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-ferguson.jpg)
Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-ferguson.jpg) / Boeing VP (and former astronaut) Chris Ferguson.
 Lee Hutchinson

 "All the hardware switches you see in there are backup and are never intended to be used normally," Ferguson went on. The cockpit contains hardware switches for all critical systems--opening and closing valves, for example--but the intent is for the crew to be able to fly the spacecraft and do all of its operating tasks through touchscreens. Or to not have the crew do those tasks at all--CST-100 is being designed with the capability to operate totally autonomously, unlike the space shuttle. The latter lacked the ability to be fully operated remotely (though that capability was added in 2006 with the addition of a special cable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-3xx)).
I asked Ferguson about the practicality of operating touchscreens in gloves, since the crew would likely spend their launches and landings in the same orange ACES suits being used by Serena Auñón. He replied that Boeing is investigating including a capacitive mesh layer in the fingers of the suits, sort of along the same lines as the "iPad gloves" (http://www.fivepointgloves.com/) folks in northern climates can buy to keep their fingers warm while they poke at their gadgets (though, obviously, much more air-tight and spacesuit-y).
 
Getting there and back

 Boeing plans to have the CST-100 hitch its initial rides into orbit on the Atlas V (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_V) rocket, coupled with a Centaur upper stage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur_%28rocket_stage%29). The combination has an excellent safety record, and Boeing (with assistance from its United Launch Alliance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_Alliance) joint venture) will be taking the extra steps necessary to "man-rate" the rocket--that is, prove by NASA's stringent guidelines that the rocket is safe enough to carry humans, rather than the cargo it's currently used for.
Atlas V isn't the only rocket with which CST-100 will be compatible; Boeing is designing the capsule to work with a wide variety of launch systems, including rival SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9). It's even possible that the CST-100 could be lofted by NASA's ultra-heavy-lift Space Launch System (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System) when or if it becomes available, though using that large a rocket to lift the CST-100 capsule would be overkill.
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Enlarge (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cst-training.jpg) / Watching astronaut Auñón on the monitors placed outside the mockup.
 Lee Hutchinson

 It's also necessary for Boeing to construct an escape system for the CST-100, so that the vehicle can keep its crew safe in the event of a launch abort. Early NASA capsules used Launch Escape Systems (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_%28spacecraft%29#Launch_Escape_System_.28LES.29)--a smaller rocket perched on the capsule's nose that could drag the capsule away from the rocket if something went wrong. The space shuttle lacked any notable external abort system, relying instead on fancy flying (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_abort_modes) in the event of an emergency. CST-100 will have a "pusher escape system," using four rockets in the CST-100's service module to haul the capsule off and away from the launch vehicle. This design has the added benefit of also bringing some extra usable propellant to orbit; tower-based Launch Escape Systems are typically jettisoned after a certain point in the launch, but CST-100's abort engines and their propellant are also intended to be used for on-orbit maneuvering.
 
The commercial future

 One of the odd facts about the "commercial space flight" push is that manned space flight has always been a "commercial" endeavor. Companies like Boeing have built every rocket and spacecraft that NASA has ever flown. The new efforts of Boeing, SpaceX, and others would be better characterized as commercially available or commercially funded (though even that isn't quite accurate, since NASA is splitting more than a billion dollars between Boeing, SpaceX, and Sierra Nevada Corporation for them to develop their CCiCap craft). Boeing is an old hand at the spaceship game--but being that old hand brings with it complications. When compared with a nimble, young company like SpaceX, Boeing can seem stodgy--even moribund, bound up in processes and meetings over even tiny details.
John Mulholland, Boeing's Vice President and Program Manager of Commercial Operations, acknowledged the difficulty Boeing faces with its approach. Still, he remained hopeful. "The nice thing is that we're coming into this from a position of experience," he said. "We understand the processes and what was done on previous human spaceflight designs, and having that knowledge, we can look at areas wh ere we can drive efficiency, without sacrificing reliability or safety." He spoke further on a renewed focus within Boeing on both "decision velocity" and "decision stability"--making correct decisions quickly and sticking with things that work.
"I think we're doing a great job of it," continued John Elbon, who heads Boeing's entire Space Exploration group. "We aren't as vocal and out there as maybe some others, but Mulholland has put together a relatively small team to do this, and the effectiveness we're seeing relative to how much it's costing us to do this and how many hours it's taking is amazing."
The CST-100 is currently winging its way through the design review process. Boeing is hopeful that the capsule will fly in 2015 or 2016.      
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 23.07.2013 11:22:01
https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/359384106498404352/photo/1
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 23.07.2013 11:25:50
https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/353220837173780480/photo/1
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 23.07.2013 11:34:33
http://youtu.be/VdQfdKkr46U (http://youtu.be/VdQfdKkr46U)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 25.07.2013 10:07:45
Статья на русском о презентации этого макета

http://compulenta.computerra.ru/universe/explore/10008064/ (http://compulenta.computerra.ru/universe/explore/10008064/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 25.07.2013 06:39:17
Интересно, они к бигеловскому макету нормальную дверку приделали или он весь новый с иголочки?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.07.2013 13:03:05
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/asd_07_24_2013_p01-02-599911.xml&p=1
ЦитатаBoeing Refines CST-100 Commercial Crew Capsule Approach
By Mark Carreau
Source: Aerospace Daily & Defense Report
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July 24, 2013

HOUSTON -- A mockup of Boeing's CST-100 entry in NASA's Commercial Crew Program (CCP) is undergoing internal evaluation by astronauts this week amid renewed optimism over how the initiative to regain a U.S. capability to transport crews to and from the International Space Station by 2017 is faring in Washington.
The Apollo-shaped capsule has met eight of 19 milestones outlined under Boeing's $460 million NASA Commercial Crew Integrated Capability agreement, as the company aims for a critical design review (CDR) in the spring of 2014 and an unpiloted flight test in 2016. In parallel, Boeing is working under a $10 million first-phase contract to certify the spacecraft's safety and performance for a piloted demonstration mission to the ISS in 2017.
Last week, the House Appropriations committees approved $500 million and Senate appropriators $775 million for commercial crew development as part of NASA's 2014 budget. The first figure is well below the Obama administration's $821 million request, a figure NASA Administrator Charles Bolden has characterized as essential to meet the 2017 objective. Nonetheless, agency and company managers believe legislators are losing their skepticism over a program that has so far committed $1.4 billion to competing vehicle designs from SpaceX, Sierra Nevada, Boeing and others.
"We have to stay focused on execution," said Kathy Lueders, NASA's deputy CCP manager. "We have a program, and it is executing. I think Congress can recognize that and fund it appropriately."
"It's still a draft in work," echoed John Mulholland, Boeing program manager for commercial programs, speaking about the House and Senate appropriations marks. "I think they will come up with a number that NASA can use."
The two CCP officials spoke July 22 as a second round of internal capsule evaluations by astronauts got under way, the first in a new, full-sized mockup of the CST-100, which is designed to carry up to seven astronauts, or combinations of crew and cargo to the ISS. Boeing unveiled the mockup at the company's Houston Products Support Center.
The evaluations collected this week could lead to modifications that would undergo a final round of astronaut assessments prior to the CDR, said Chris Ferguson, Boeing's director of crew and mission operations and a former shuttle commander.
Boeing has leaned hard on a half-century of prior spaceflight experience and borrowed from its success with commercial airline production to tame CST-100 development costs. The capsule's outer mold line, for instance, closely resembles that of Boeing's losing design in the competition with Lockheed Martin for NASA's Orion crew exploration vehicle.
While the CST-100 control panel layout is considered proprietary, pilot astronauts will board with electronic flight bags -- tablet computers that serve as electronic instrument management devices that eliminate the paper-based reference materials of the space shuttle era. Any switches, or knobs, serve a backup control function, Ferguson said.
The soft blue tones of internal illumination come from the Boeing Sky Interior light-emitting diode scheme introduced on later models of the 737.
While Boeing is comfortable with the ACES as a flight pressure suit for crewmembers, the company has agreed to listen to competing proposals before selecting a vendor.
Boeing is working toward the "rent-a-car" rather than the "taxi" model for commercial crew operations, meaning that NASA personnel, rather than company astronauts, would fly the CST-100. A United Launch Alliance Atlas V with a dual-engine Centaur upper stage will propel astronauts into orbit from Cape Canaveral on initial missions, though Boeing's design will accommodate other launch vehicles that demonstrate equal reliability, according to Mulholland.
Flight crews will likely spend about 2 1/2 hr. in the Boeing spacecraft prior to liftoff, comparable to shuttle operations. Boeing is planning a flight day one rendezvous and docking capability with the space station, rather than the shuttle's day-three berthing. Russia introduced a day-one, four-orbit, rendezvous-and-docking profile earlier this year.
The CST-100 is designed to remain docked to the ISS for up to 210 days.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 16.01.2014 10:51:45
http://ria.ru/vrn/20140115/989415270.html
ЦитатаВоронежский завод поможет Boeing в создании космического транспорта

ВОРОНЕЖ, 15 янв -- РИА Новости, Алексей Андреев. Воронежское предприятие будет разрабатывать для американской компании Boeing преобразователи энергии космического транспортного корабля, сообщает правительство региона.

Делегация корпорации Boeing прибыла в Воронеж с визитом в понедельник. Основная цель приезда -- знакомство с потенциалом местного ЗАО "Орбита". Это воронежское предприятие стало победителем конкурса на разработку и изготовление электротехнического оборудования для нового американского космического корабля, который придет на смену программе Space Shuttle.

Как рассказал на состоявшейся в среду встрече представителей Boeing и руководства Воронежской области директор разработки систем электроэнергии авиационной радиоэлектроники и исследования космоса компании Эрик Гиетл, "Орбита" выиграла конкурс по четырем критериям: техническая составляющая, менеджмент, стоимость выполнения работ и история завода.

"Генеральный директор -- главный конструктор ЗАО "Орбита" Олег Романов и менеджер по контрактам с поставщиками департамента исследования космоса корпорации Boeing Наталья Григорьева подписали контракт, согласно которому воронежский завод обязуется разработать и запустить в производство преобразователи энергии для обеспечения функционирования систем электроснабжения американского космического аппарата", -- говорится в сообщении.

"Орбита" -- единственное российское предприятие, получившее возможность принять участие в конкурсе. Проект Boeing предполагает создание инновационной транспортной системы, которая будет использоваться для доставки на орбиту как экипажей, так и грузов. Предусматривается возможность стыковки корабля с Международной космической станцией и совместной работы с ней в едином научно-энергетическом комплексе.

Космическое подразделение корпорации Boeing выполняет функции главного подрядчика, ответственного за проектирование, разработку, производство и эксплуатацию летательных аппаратов в рамках реализации важнейших космических программ США.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 16.01.2014 10:53:27
http://orbitaenvo.ru/products.html
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 16.01.2014 06:59:57
Это они делали преобразователи для ФГБ?

ДА http://orbitaenvo.ru/products-space.html
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 27.02.2014 18:58:24
ЦитатаBoeing Commercial Crew Вехи Статус
Posted by Doug Messier on February 27, 2014, at 5:31 am in News
   
Цитата(http://www.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CST-100-Interior_Mockup.jpg)
   
This is an interior view of The Boeing Company's CST-100 spacecraft, which features LED lighting and tablet technology. (Credit: NASA/Robert Markowitz)
Boeing's Commercial Crew Milestones Status
Award Period: August 2012 - August 2014
Milestones: 20
Milestones Completed: 15
Milestones Remaining: 5
Total Possible Award: $480 Million
Total Award to Date: $404.5 Million
Total Award Pending: $75.5 Million
   
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/02/27/boeing-commercial-crew-status-february-2014/
   
Вот этапы, которые осталось пройти:
   
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Как и у конкурентов, видно, что некоторые сроки ползут в право. Но величина этого сползания заметно меньше.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 03.03.2014 05:12:13
fghfghf
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 03.03.2014 14:23:52
Цитатаronatu пишет:
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Они в состыкованном виде работают только как ДУ САС. Напротив "штанов" должны быть люки, направляющие факел в сторону от верхней ступени. на рисунке чтото такое видно. ИМХО
Они на большем диаметре.
Движки САС-довыведения-торможения тоже ведь не в центре стоят.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 07.03.2014 00:56:11
ЦитатаVideo: Boeing Completes Pilot-in-the-Loop Commercial Crew Milestone
Posted by Doug Messier on March 5, 2014, at 5:24 am in News.
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odh08oKhpjk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odh08oKhpjk)
 
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http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/03/05/boeing-completes-pilotintheloop-commercial-crew-milestone/
 
Боинг достиг семнадцатой контрольной точки, и планирует ликвидировать свое отставание от графика работ по разработке пилотируемого корабля для доставки астронавтов на МКС, хотя для этого ему придется хорошо потрудиться. Если вы хотите посмотреть сообщение целиком, то пройдите по ссылке.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий В. от 09.03.2014 11:08:47
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 09.03.2014 12:18:13
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
А Orion не раньше?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 09.03.2014 12:19:21
ЦитатаАлександр Ч. пишет:
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
А Orion не раньше?
Пилотируемый? Это вряд-ли.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.03.2014 09:07:07
У НАСА запланировано 2017 декабрь первый полет на МКС. Еще где-то за полгода должен быть хотя бы один пилотируемый Демо.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 09.03.2014 13:54:50
ЦитатаApollo13 пишет:
ЦитатаАлександр Ч. пишет:
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
А Orion не раньше?
Пилотируемый? Это вряд-ли.
Я о том, что EFT-1 запланирован на этот год. Непилотируемый, но космический. Два бустера уже прибыли.
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
У НАСА запланировано 2017 декабрь первый полет на МКС. Еще где-то за полгода должен быть хотя бы один пилотируемый Демо.
Ага, несмотря на то, что Боинг говорил о своей готовности выполнить пилотируемый полет в 2015г. Сейчас они говорят о 2016г.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: ronatu от 10.03.2014 04:45:04
sdfsdfs
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: m-s Gelezniak от 09.03.2014 21:35:13
Цитатаronatu пишет:
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
Я за SpaceX!
 A чего тaк?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 09.03.2014 22:37:07
Да, блин, жадность может сгубить Боинга. :(
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий В. от 10.03.2014 14:42:45
Цитатаronatu пишет:
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
Я за SpaceX!
Грузовой Dragon летает уже 4-й год. Логично было бы ожидать, что первый пилотируемый полет свершит он. Но, судя по темпам достижения "майлстоунов", Боинг вырвался вперед.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 10.03.2014 17:52:42
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Цитатаronatu пишет:
ЦитатаДмитрий В. пишет:
Интересно, что полетит быстрее: CST-100 или пилотируемый Dragon?
Я за SpaceX!
Грузовой Dragon летает уже 4-й год. Логично было бы ожидать, что первый пилотируемый полет свершит он. Но, судя по темпам достижения "майлстоунов", Боинг вырвался вперед.
Грузовой Дракон садится в море, так же садится и Орион, так же планировался и "легкий Дракон". Пилотируемый Дракон должен садиться на сушу.
ИМХО, много времени ушло, как и у ПТК НП на попытки сделать Дракон с посадкой на двигателях. В конечном счете первые пилотируемые Драконы будут садиться на парашютах, так проще и привычнее.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 10.03.2014 14:00:48
Хорошо. А герой темы CST-100 как будет садиться в конечном счете?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 10.03.2014 18:05:34
На сушу, на аэробэгах (надувных амортизаторах). Естественно, с парашютом.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 10.03.2014 14:35:04
симулятор виртуального полета
(http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0310/c9/60434f2d14c963c47787a5e864959ec9.jpg) (http://fastpic.ru/)
пульт как на ладони
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Valerij от 02.04.2014 16:10:48
ЦитатаBoeing Commercial Crew Milestones Status
Posted by Doug Messier on April 1, 2014, at 5:26 pm in News.
 
Цитата(http://www.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CST-100-Test-Serena-Aunon.jpg)
 
NASA astronaut climbs aboard a mock-up CST-100 spacecraft July 22 at The Boeing Company's Houston Product Support Center. (Credit: NASA)

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http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/04/01/boeing-commercial-crew-milestones-status/
 
Боинг прошел семнадцатую отметку на маршруте, но несколько потерял темп, и теперь, хотя ему осталось преодолеть всего три этапа гонки, запланированные сроки двух последних этапов сползли на третий квартал текущего года.....

  
Полностью статья по ссылке.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: igorvs от 30.04.2014 23:09:38
Будущий интерьер корабля


 (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/38647)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 01.05.2014 09:53:50
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=20295&item=129058#assets_117
По всем признакам это компьютерная версия макета, который будет делать Бигелов для иллюстрации полетов к ВА330 ;)
Boeing and partner Bigelow Aerospace highlighted the future commercial interior of the capsule
называется Version of CST-100 capsule for non-government space customers, продемонстрирована  в Северном Лас-Вегасе, Невада
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: frigate от 07.05.2014 10:55:02
Aviation week & Space Technology, 5 May 2014, page 12
 (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/42042)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 17.05.2014 05:49:09
Цитатаfrigate пишет:
Aviation week & Space Technology, 5 May 2014, page 12
Неожиданно широкий иллюминатор в левом верхнем углу подвиг меня на поиски других изображений. И точно, Боинг показал не одну, а целых две картинки.  ;)  

наконец стало понятно куда пилот будет девать ноги. ;)  огромный панорамный иллюминатор создает для туриков иллюзию участия в процессе.  ;)  или это изогнутый экран телевизора от ЛЖ?
(http://i62.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0517/dc/681e6000b379acb59b3a4fd2feb97ddc.jpg)
кстати, в статейке написано что ап то десять. кто больше?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 23.05.2014 20:30:03
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/43997)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 13.06.2014 13:43:07
Авиаторы порадовали новыми картинками футуристического интерьера  ;)  
 (http://i64.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0613/00/4b8c24a558edc2803c7e31d373305c00.jpg) 
на ней есть целых пять настоящих "авиалайнерных" иллюминаторов
 (http://i64.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0613/db/1cc3d2e4f468a0c2029380f047bc77db.jpg)
Креслица, вероятно, кожаные, но имеют только 4х-точечные ремни ). отстает Боинг от веяний моды  ;)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 08.07.2014 19:28:22
United Launch Alliance Successfully Completes Critical Design Review for Boeing Commercial Crew Accommodations at Launch Pad
http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-successfully-completes-critical-design.aspx

ЦитатаCentennial, Colo., (July 7, 2014) - United Launch Alliance (ULA) recently completed a Critical Design Review (CDR) of the launch site accommodations that will support commercial crew launches of Boeing's Crew Space Transportation (CST) -100 at Space Launch Complex 41 (SLC-41) in Florida.

The CDR, supported by Boeing, NASA, and the Air Force, approved the design for the Crew Access Tower, Crew Access Arm as well as the White Room that will allow the flight crews the ability to safely ingress and egress Boeing's CST-100 crew module for launch. In addition, the team reviewed the conceptual design of the emergency egress system which is similar in design to the space shuttle basket escape system.

"This was a critical milestone to ensure all elements are in place to begin the construction as early as this fall to support the Boeing team and crewed launches of CST-100 from SLC-41," said Ellen Plese, director, ULA Human Launch Services. "As ULA was creating the innovative new design elements for the pad, human safety factors were the primary consideration."

"We have made great strides with ULA in the development of the CST-100 emergency detection system, the launch vehicle adaptor and now the crew access tower," added John Mulholland, Boeing vice president of Commercial Programs and Commercial Crew Program manager. "Our focus is on human safety, and meeting these goals ahead of schedule puts us in a good position as we look forward to the next phase of the Commercial Crew Program."

Once the work begins at SLC-41, the construction of the new elements to support human spaceflight will take approximately 18 months and will not impact any scheduled launches at the pad.  

"The beauty of the plan is the integrated fashion in which the construction will be handled," said Plese. "We will be constructing each segment of the new tower and access arm at an off-site location and performing assembly at the pad between launches. This allows ULA to continue its full manifest of launches from SLC-41 while preparing the pad for future commercial crew missions."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.07.2014 05:16:28
Цитатаche wi пишет:
United Launch Alliance Successfully Completes Critical Design Review for Boeing Commercial Crew Accommodations at Launch Pad
Как то так
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: frigate от 09.07.2014 03:22:10
"Прювет уЧАСТНИКАМ капиталистического соревнования!" 
(http://www.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Commercial_Crew_Progress_July-2014_a.jpg)
CCiCap milestone completion status: 
Boeing, 18 of 20; 
SpaceX, 13 of 17; 
Sierra Nevada Corporation, 10 of 13 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 09.07.2014 10:35:53
Уже Атлас 422?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 09.07.2014 11:47:03
ЦитатаApollo13 пишет:
Уже Атлас 422?

отсюда (http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2538/1):
ЦитатаTwo solid rocket boosters will then be mounted to the core stage.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bizonich от 09.07.2014 13:20:34
Цитатаfrigate пишет:
CCiCap milestone completion status:
Boeing, 18 of 20;
SpaceX, 13 of 17;
Sierra Nevada Corporation, 10 of 13
Чуть поправлю. SpaceX 13 из 18.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 17.09.2014 00:56:28
American Companies Sel ected to Return Astronaut Launches to American Soil
http://blogs.nasa.gov/bolden/2014/09/16/american-companies-selected-to-return-astronaut-launches-to-american-soil/

ЦитатаToday, with the selection of Boeing and SpaceX to be the first American companies to launch our astronauts to the International Space Station, NASA has set the stage for what promises to be the most ambitious and exciting chapter in the history of human space flight.

From day one, the Obama Administration has made it clear that the greatest nation on Earth should not be dependent on other nations to get into space. Thanks to the leadership of President Obama and the hard work of our NASA and industry teams, today we are one step closer to launching our astronauts from U.S. soil on American spacecraft and ending the nation's sole reliance on Russia by 2017. Turning over low-Earth orbit transportation to private industry also will allow NASA to focus on an even more ambitious mission - sending humans to Mars.

We have already fulfilled part of the President's vision. For the past two years, two companies, SpaceX and Orbital Sciences, have been making regular cargo deliveries to the International Space Station. The contracts we are announcing today are designed to complete the NASA certification for human space transportation systems capable of carrying people into orbit. Once certification is complete, NASA plans to use these systems to ferry astronauts to the International Space Station and return them safely to Earth. Again, this will fulfill the commitment President Obama made to return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil and end our sole reliance on the Russians.

As a former space shuttle commander, I know that the goal of every mission is to do something different from the flights that have gone before. Alan Shepard earned the title first American in space, John Glenn the first American to orbit Earth. And with all due respect to the late Michael Jackson, Neil and Buzz were the first moonwalkers.

Today, we don't know who is going to get to command the first mission to carry humans into low-Earth orbit on a spacecraft built by an American private company, but we know it will be a seminal moment in NASA history and a major achievement for our nation. We now know, however, who will build it.

The Boeing Company (Boeing) and Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) have each presented to us designs that will allow us to fly crews to the International Space Station in just a few years. Respectively, the vehicles are Boeing's CST-100 and SpaceX's Dragon. The total potential contract value is $4.2 billion for Boeing and $2.6 billion for SpaceX. The spacecraft will launch from Kennedy Space Center - Cape Canaveral complex.

Our specialist teams have watched the development of these new spacecraft during earlier development phases, and are confident they will meet the demands of these important missions. We also are confident they will be safe for NASA astronauts - to achieve NASA certification in 2017, they must meet the same rigorous safety standards we had for the Space Shuttle Program.

It was not an easy choice, but it is the best choice for NASA and the nation. We received numerous proposals fr om companies throughout the aerospace industry. Highly qualified, American companies - united in their desire to return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil - competed to serve this nation and end our reliance on Russia. I applaud them all for their innovations, their hard work and their patriotism.

The partnership with Boeing and SpaceX promises to give more people in America and around the world the opportunity to experience the wonder and exhilaration of spaceflight - to realize the dream of leaving Earth for even a short time to float above our planet Earth in microgravity and to see the stars and the majestic tapestry of the Milky Way unobstructed by the artificial lights and dust of our atmosphere. Space travelers also will be able to imagine and realize new benefits that can be brought back to Earth.

While Boeing and SpaceX handle the task of taking our astronauts to the space station, the scientists on Earth and astronauts on the orbiting ISS National Laboratory will continue the groundbreaking research that has been taking place there for almost 14 years now without interruption. They will be able to add to that portfolio with an expanded crew made possible by the arrival of these new spacecraft.

/.../
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 17.09.2014 01:17:15
НАСА объявит подробности программы возобновления пилотируемых полетов (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/24202/)
слушаем и трепещем :D
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 17.09.2014 07:15:57
Boeing, SpaceX share $6.8 billion crew contract
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1409/16cctcap/#.VBj9YVcrpeE
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Инфан от 17.09.2014 07:48:01
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
наконец стало понятно куда пилот будет девать ноги.  ;)  или это изогнутый экран телевизора от ЛЖ?
Это гламур.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quoondо от 17.09.2014 12:32:44
вообщем с 2020 года америкосы пойдут по совершенно отдельной пилотиремой программе. Конец МКС и сотрудничеству с Россией. Дальше планов больше и самостоятельная высадка на астероид. ВОзможно отдельная станция
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 17.09.2014 14:30:02
на текущий момент, кто знает что будет в международных взаимоотношениях, если они еще ухудшатся.

Есть не только американская и российская программа, пилотируемая программа американцев взаимосвязана с пилотируемыми программами европейцев, канадцев, японцев (от НАСА что-то про астронавтов арабской Азии и Южной Америки не слышно, их только на шаттлах возили)
2020 год это только по заявлениям Рогозина, НАСА продлило международную эксплуатацию станции.
Это Россия пойдет по отдельной пилотируемой программе
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Искандер от 17.09.2014 14:30:56
ЦитатаSalo пишет: 
Boeing, SpaceX share $6.8 billion crew contract
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1409/16cctcap/#.VBj9YVcrpeE
Птичку жалко...  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjOsrx4vKVI)  :cry:   

(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/48372)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 17.09.2014 15:19:51
ЦитатаИскандер пишет:
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
Boeing, SpaceX share $6.8 billion crew contract
 http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1409/16cctcap/#.VBj9YVcrpeE
Птичку жалко...  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjOsrx4vKVI)  :cry:  

Цитата
SpaceX и Boeing получат контракты НАСА по доставке астронавтов на МКС.

Сегодня ночью на специальной пресс-конференции американское космическое агентство подвело итоги третьего этапа программы CCDev (Commercial Crew Development). Целью этой программы является создание частных пилотируемых кораблей.
 Компании SpaceX, Boeing и Sierra Nevada, прошедшие отбор на предыдущих этапах, под контролем космического агентства разрабатывали собственные транспортные средства для доставки экипажей на МКС. По мере достижения определенных ключевых шагов НАСА выдавало им безвозмездные субсидии. Текущий третий этап программы должен был завершиться в сентябре 2014 года, однако ранее НАСА продлило его до марта 2015 года, поскольку только Boeing успешно справилась с заявленной программой разработки в срок.

Две компании, выбранные сегодня НАСА, получат заказ на доставку американских астронавтов на МКС. Суммарная стоимость контрактов, которые включают в себя обязательство осуществить помимо испытательного полета от двух до шести регулярных полетов четырехместного корабля к космической станции, составит 6,8 млрд долларов (2,6 млрд SpaceX, 4,2 млрд Boeing). Предполагается, что регулярные полеты к станции начнутся в конце 2017 года. SpaceX, считавшаяся фаворитом гонки, разрабатывает капсульный корабль Dragon и собственную ракету-носитель Falcon 9. Капсульный корабль компании Boeing предполагается выводить на орбиту на ракете-носителе Atlas V разработки United Launch Alliance (ULA) - совместного предприятия Boeing и Lockheed Martin. Сейчас ULA испытывает проблемы из-за охлаждения отношений между Россией и США. Хотя поставка двигателей РД-180 для первых ступеней ракет Atlas V продолжается буквально в дни, в США было принято политическое решение найти замену российским двигателям. На днях Boeing заключила союз с аризонской компанией Blue Origin, которая в прошлом претендовала на участие в гонке за «пилотируемый» контракт НАСА, однако сильно отстала от конкурентов. Теперь Blue Origin должна будет на основе своих технологий создать новый двигатель - по слухам, метаново-кислородный - на замену РД-180. Ранее эта компания самостоятельно работала над водородным двигателем.

Третья компания, упомянутая выше Sierra Nevada Corporation (SNC), не получила контракт НАСА. SNC занимается разработкой мини-шаттла Dream Chaser - многоразового космического корабля с планерной системой посадки. Для его вывода в космос планируется использовать все ту же ракету Atlas V разработки ULA. Ранее компания SNC уже заявляла, что потеря контракта НАСА не будет означать прекращение работы над проектом. Существовали слухи, что для того, чтобы дополнительно поддержать проигравшую компанию, космическое агентство подготовило для нее «утешительный приз» - дополнительный небольшой контракт. В сегодняшней пресс-конференции администратор НАСА Чарльз Болден поблагодарил все компании, участвовавшие в программе CCDev, но ничего не сказал о дополнительных контрактах.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: us2-star от 18.09.2014 01:31:30
Птички птичками, а я ставлю на то, что именно эта штука повезёт астронавтов на ISS году в 18-м 8)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Sam Grey от 19.09.2014 08:24:52
Цитатаus2-star пишет:
Птички птичками, а я ставлю на то, что именно эта штука повезёт астронавтов на ISS году в 18-м  8)  
(затаив дыхание)  В 18? На Атлас-5? С РД-180?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 19.09.2014 03:00:48
ЦитатаSam Grey пишет:
Цитатаus2-star пишет:
Птички птичками, а я ставлю на то, что именно эта штука повезёт астронавтов на ISS году в 18-м  8)  
(затаив дыхание) В 18? На Атлас-5? С РД-180?
с ними родимыми, или американцы всерьёз решили отвалить Боингу 6,8 млрд баксов, при том что  Спэйсэксу досталось всего лишь 2,6 тех же самых млрдов, только для того чтоб на ветер деньги пустить, с учётом натянутых отношений с Россией, России так же выгодно засылать "партнёрских астронов на МКС так же как и продавать за бугор свои движки, Маск уже пытался пролоббировать закон на запрет закупок РД-180, и остался с носом, буквально несколько дней назад был запущен Атлас-5 с секретной ПН
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Sam Grey от 19.09.2014 10:47:10
ЦитатаGarixon пишет:
ЦитатаSam Grey пишет:
Цитатаus2-star пишет:
Птички птичками, а я ставлю на то, что именно эта штука повезёт астронавтов на ISS году в 18-м  8)  
(затаив дыхание) В 18? На Атлас-5? С РД-180?
с ними родимыми, или американцы всерьёз решили отвалить Боингу 6,8 млрд баксов, при том что Спэйсэксу досталось всего лишь 2,6 тех же самых млрдов, только для того чтоб на ветер деньги пустить, с учётом натянутых отношений с Россией, России так же выгодно засылать "партнёрских астронов на МКС так же как и продавать за бугор свои движки, Маск уже пытался пролоббировать закон на запрет закупок РД-180, и остался с носом, буквально несколько дней назад был запущен Атлас-5 с секретной ПН
Ага...  И много они так налетают на РД-180? У ULA все движки наперед уже расписаны, под военку и "шпионов". Или будем заказ движков Амроссу увеличивать, на радость конгрессу и общественности?  

А если без шуток, похоже что Пушк Falcon - это наше всё. А Falcon Heavy - наше остальное всё.

Боинг с ULA будут потохонечку допиливать Атлас с безовским Бе-4, Дельта будет помогать с военными грузами, а с остальным - к SpaceX. 

И пусть NASA молится, чтобы следующая после Обамы администрация SLS не прикрыла.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 19.09.2014 04:40:45
ЦитатаSam Grey пишет:
ЦитатаGarixon пишет:
ЦитатаSam Grey пишет:
Цитатаus2-star пишет:
Птички птичками, а я ставлю на то, что именно эта штука повезёт астронавтов на ISS году в 18-м  8)  
(затаив дыхание) В 18? На Атлас-5? С РД-180?
с ними родимыми, или американцы всерьёз решили отвалить Боингу 6,8 млрд баксов, при том что Спэйсэксу досталось всего лишь 2,6 тех же самых млрдов, только для того чтоб на ветер деньги пустить, с учётом натянутых отношений с Россией, России так же выгодно засылать "партнёрских астронов на МКС так же как и продавать за бугор свои движки, Маск уже пытался пролоббировать закон на запрет закупок РД-180, и остался с носом, буквально несколько дней назад был запущен Атлас-5 с секретной ПН
Ага... И много они так налетают на РД-180? У ULA все движки наперед уже расписаны, под военку и "шпионов". Или будем заказ движков Амроссу увеличивать, на радость конгрессу и общественности?

А если без шуток, похоже что Пушк Falcon - это наше всё. А Falcon Heavy - наше остальное всё.

Боинг с ULA будут потохонечку допиливать Атлас с безовским Бе-4, Дельта будет помогать с военными грузами, а с остальным - к SpaceX.

И пусть NASA молится, чтобы следующая после Обамы администрация SLS не прикрыла.
время, вещь крайне труднопрогнозируемая  ;)  , поживём увидим, загадывать не стоит, а то может ещё один астероид настолько близко пролететь, что планы останутся исключительно таковыми!  :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Петр Зайцев от 19.09.2014 16:24:05
ЦитатаSam Grey пишет:

И пусть NASA молится, чтобы следующая после Обамы администрация SLS не прикрыла.
Еще раз поясняю для тех, кто не силен в американской политике: Обама прикрыл Constellation, после чего продажные сенаторы (такие как Ричард Шелби, Барбара Микульски, и пр.) протолкнули специальный закон, в котором ясно сказано: строить попил-ракету с использованием компонентов Шаттла. И точка. Обаме пришлось сдуться. В США верховная власть принадлежит Конгрессу, а президент исполняет его волю. А Болден тут вообще мелкая сошка.

Так что сотрудникам Центра имени Маршалла нужно молиться не чтобы следующая админстрация не прикрыла их игрушки, а чтобы Шелби не отдал богу душу.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 27.01.2015 10:08:30
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/01/27/boeing-spacex-on-track-for-commercial-crew-flights-to-station-in-2017/
ЦитатаBoeing, SpaceX on track for commercial crew flights to station in 2017       
Posted on January 27, 2015 by William Harwood (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/bill-harwood/)

STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS "SPACE PLACE" (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/home/spacenews/spacenews1.html) & USED WITH PERMISSION
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File photo of the International Space Station as seen by a space shuttle crew in 2010. Credit: NASA
 
NASA expects to spend some $5 billion underwriting development of commercial spacecraft built by Boeing and SpaceX to carry astronauts to and fr om the International Space Station, officials said Monday, ending sole reliance on the Russians for crew ferry flights and eventually lowering the average cost per seat to around $58 million.
Gwynne Shotwell, president and chief operating officer of Space Exploration Technologies, or SpaceX, said her company's upgraded Dragon V2 ferry craft should be ready for an initial unpiloted flight to the space station in late 2016 with the first crewed flight, likely carrying a SpaceX test pilot and a NASA astronaut, in early 2017.
John Elbon, vice president and general manager of Boeing Space Exploration, said his company's CST-100 spacecraft is expected to be ready for an uncrewed test flight in April 2017, followed by a crewed flight, with a Boeing pilot and a NASA astronaut, in the July 2017 timeframe.
Both companies must complete the crewed and uncrewed test flights before NASA certification, which will pave the way for the start of operational crew rotation and cargo delivery flights to the International Space Station later in 2017. Until then, NASA will continue to rely on Russia's Soyuz spacecraft to carry U.S. and partner crew members to and from the lab complex.
"Commercial crew is incredibly important to the space station, it's important to reduce the cost of transportation to low-Earth orbit so that NASA has within its budget the capability to develop means to explore beyond low-Earth orbit," Elbon said during a news conference at the Johnson Space Center in Houston. "And importantly, I think, it's beginning a whole new industry. ... We're making great progress on the program."
Said Shotwell: "Our crew Dragon leverages the cargo capability that we've been flying successfully to the International Space Station. However, we understand, and we've been told, that crew is clearly different. So there are a number of upgrades that we've been working for the past few years to assure that this crew version of Dragon is as reliable as it can possibly be. Ultimately, we plan for it to be the most reliable spaceship flying crew ever."
In the wake of the space shuttle's retirement, NASA started a competition to build a commercial crewed spacecraft, with the first in a series of contracts intended to encourage innovative designs for reliable, affordable transportation to and from low-Earth orbit.
Last September, NASA announced that Boeing had won a $4.2 billion Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCAP) contract to continue development of the company's CST-100 capsule while SpaceX would receive $2.6 billion to press ahead with work to perfect its futuristic Dragon crew craft.
A third competitor, Sierra Nevada, was left out, and the company filed a protest with the General Accountability Office, arguing its Dream Chaser spaceplane was unfairly passed over. But the GAO ruled earlier this month that NASA's selection of Boeing and SpaceX was justified, clearing the space agency to proceed with the CCtCAP contracts.
SpaceX and Boeing hold contracts covering two test flights and two operational missions per company with options for additional operational missions between them.
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Artist's concept of Boeing's CST-100 crew capsule separating from the Centaur upper stage of the Atlas 5 launcher. Credit: Boeing
 
Boeing's CST-100 spacecraft is a state-of-the-art, reusable capsule incorporating weld-less fabrication, flight proven navigation software, powerful "pusher" escape rockets to propel the capsule away from a malfunctioning booster and a parachute-and-airbag landing system.
For NASA flights, the spacecraft will be used to carry four astronauts at a time to the space station, along with critical cargo. It will be launched atop a United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket, one of the most reliable boosters in the U.S. inventory.
Elbon said construction has started on a launch pad crew access tower and work platforms needed to service CST-100s in a former shuttle processing hangar. A simulator will be installed at the Johnson Space Center in the same building that once housed shuttle flight simulators and Boeing is working out procedures to use NASA's mission control center for ascent, rendezvous and re-entry.
"The flight software will be delivered later this summer, we'll have the simulator running with the flight software and flight computers and 26 of the 34 flight displays," Elbon said. "So there will be a real opportunity for the crew to interface with that software and understand how the vehicle's going to operate."
Boeing plans a launch pad abort test in February 2017 "where we'll fully check out the abort system" before staging the first unpiloted test flight to the space station the following April. Elbon said Boeing should be ready for the first crewed test flight in July 2017. Assuming the test flights go well and NASA certifies the CST-100, Boeing expects to be ready for its first operational mission in December 2017.
SpaceX already flies to the space station under a $1.6 billion contract with NASA for a dozen uncrewed cargo flights using the company's Dragon capsule and Falcon 9 rockets.
The crewed version of the spacecraft will be able to carry up to seven astronauts -- typically four for station missions -- and features futuristic pull-down flat-screen displays, a powerful escape rocket system and sophisticated computer control. As with the automated cargo ships, the crew capsules will be launched atop Falcon 9 boosters.
Shotwell said SpaceX is gearing up for a pad abort test in the next month or so when a Dragon spacecraft will be shot off the launch pad using its escape rockets to demonstrate the ability to pull a crew away from a catastrophic low-altitude booster malfunction. A second abort test will be carried out later this year to demonstrate escape during the most aerodynamically stressful regions of powered flight.
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Artist's concept of the Crew Dragon spacecraft. Credit: SpaceX
 
"The Integrated launch abort system is critically important to us, we think it gives incredible safety features for a full abort all the way through ascent," Shotwell said. SpaceX founder and chief designer Elon Musk hopes to eventually use the abort system for rocket-powered landings at the end of a mission, but initial flights will splash down in the ocean much like Dragon cargo missions.
While SpaceX is a relative newcomer to the rocket industry, Shotwell said the company will have launched more than 50 Falcon 9 rockets by the time astronauts strap into a Dragon V2 for the first piloted test flight. She said SpaceX will install a simulator at the Johnson Space Center for crew training, but likely will monitor ascent, rendezvous and re-entry from the company's Hawthorne, Calif., rocket plant wh ere Dragon supply flights are managed.
"We anticipate doing our uncrewed mission to the International Space Station on this upgraded crew vehicle later in '16, shortly followed thereafter with our crewed flight in early 2017, as shortly as we can make it and still maintain reliability and safety," she said. "We certainly understand the incredible responsibility we've been given to build the systems necessary and capable of flying crew."
Along with ferrying astronauts to and from the space station, the Boeing and SpaceX capsules also will be able to serve as lifeboats for station crew members, remaining attached to the station for more than 200 days at a stretch to give U.S. and partner astronauts a way home in an emergency.
The new spacecraft will be the first American vehicles to carry astronauts on NASA-sanctioned flights since the space shuttle's last mission in 2011 and the first built under more commercially structured contracts intended to lower costs.
The CST-100 and upgraded Dragon also will end America's reliance on Russian Soyuz spacecraft for access to the International Space Station. Under NASA's latest contract with Roscosmos, the Russian federal space agency, U.S. seats cost around $70 million each. Kathy Lueders, manager of NASA's commercial crew program, said the agency eventually will save, on average, more than $10 million a seat using U.S. spacecraft.
"Overall, when we go through the whole development activity ... we'll have invested about $5 billion," she said. "In addition, when you look at pricing for the missions across the five years we have pricing for, we're able to get an average seat cost of about $58 million per seat."
But NASA's use of Soyuz spacecraft will not end with the advent of U.S. space taxis.
Mike Suffredini, manager of the space station program at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, said in a Jan. 15 interview with CBS News that NASA still plans to use one seat per Soyuz for the duration of the station program. The Russians, likewise, will be able to launch a cosmonaut on each U.S.-sponsored flight.
Assuming both parties ultimately agree, "the Russians will fly twice a year, or whatever rate they need to do their job, and we will have a crew member on each of their flights," Suffredini said. "We will fly ours at whatever rate we think we need to do our job and they will put a single crew member on it."
During the news conference Monday, NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden said "I don't ever want to have to write another check to (the Russian federal space agency) Roscosmos after 2017, hopefully. That's why I'm looking to John and Gwynne to deliver. You've heard both of them say they think they'll be flying by 2017. If we can make that date, I'm a happy camper."
But NASA has to be prepared for contingencies and the commercial crew schedule is optimistic. Space station planners do not yet know for sure when a commercial ferry craft will begin operational missions and orders for Soyuz seats must be placed three years in advance.
"So I'm about to tell (Roscosmos) whether I want seats in 2018 right now, and we don't have any more insights (into commercial crew progress) really than the proposals," Suffredini said. "So we've got to go get some seats."
Longer term, he said NASA plans to continue flying on Soyuz after Boeing and SpaceX begin operational missions, but under a barter arrangement of some sort.
"We're assuming two Russian seats a year and we're assuming two Russians will fly in our seats per year," Suffredini said. "And it'll just be a quid pro quo, we won't ask for compensation."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 28.01.2015 08:31:24
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/01/27/boeing-expected-to-win-first-operational-space-taxi-order/
ЦитатаBoeing expected to win first operational space taxi order       
Posted on January 27, 2015 by Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)
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NASA astronaut Randy Bresnik participates in a fit check in a mock-up of Boeing's CST-100 capsule. Credit: Boeing
 
Boeing is poised to win NASA's first order for operational commercial missions to send up astronauts to the International Space Station, a NASA official said Monday.
The aerospace giant is one of two companies NASA sel ected to build commercial space taxis to transport crews to and from the space station. SpaceX, a newcomer to human spaceflight, cinched a separate contract with NASA.
NASA announced Boeing and SpaceX as the winners of deals worth a maximum combined value of $6.8 billion. The contracts guarantee each company at least two full-up crew rotation missions to the space station -- plus options for up to six flights -- through 2019.
The operational missions will launch after Boeing's CST-100 capsule and SpaceX's Crew Dragon spacecraft are certified by NASA to carry human passengers. Each craft will fly on unpiloted and crewed test flights to the space station before NASA approves normal missions for takeoff.
The contracts allow NASA to submit task orders as needed for each operator to fly crew transport missions.
Kathy Lueders, head of NASA's commercial crew program at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, said Monday that Boeing is likely to receive the space agency's first order for a commercially-operated operational human-rated spacecraft. Officials said Boeing could be asked for two flights, meeting the company's minimum contractual quota.
She said a decision to award Boeing NASA's first order for human spaceflight services is a function of giving the company time to get in line on the United Launch Alliance mission manifest. Boeing's CST-100 capsule will blast off on ULA's Atlas 5 rocket, which is nearly fully booked with a mix of U.S. military payloads, NASA science missions, and a few commercial satellites over the next few years.
"We need to give them enough lead time to be able to get the rocket fr om ULA, and then be able to support processing," Lueders told reporters Monday at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston.
Although Boeing is expected to get the first task order -- a milestone called authority to proceed by NASA -- it is not guaranteed to be the first to fly astronauts to the space station.
"The first mission that we will be looking at 'ATPing' is actually -- right now -- a Boeing mission, just because of the differences in lead time, and the need to start having services in the late 2017 or 2018 timeframe," Lueders said. "We know that we are going to have to begin the process to ATP our missions."
Boeing and SpaceX say they will be certified for regular astronaut transportation by December 2017, when NASA's agreement with Russia for crew launches expires. The latest deal with Russia, finalized in April 2014, ensures U.S. astronauts have a ride to the space station through the end of 2017, with provisions for landings into 2018.
Boeing plans a crewed demonstration mission with two astronauts to the International Space Station in July 2017.
John Elbon, vice president and general manager of Boeing's space exploration division, said the CST-100 is already reserved for slots in ULA's manifest for an unmanned test flight in February 2017 and the piloted mission in July 2017.
SpaceX president and chief operating officer Gwynne Shotwell said the Crew Dragon spacecraft is scheduled for its first unmanned flight in late 2016, followed by shakedown mission with a crew in early 2017. The Dragon capsule will launch on SpaceX's own Falcon 9 booster.
"If you listen to their schedule ... SpaceX is saying they're going to fly first, but we'll see," Lueders said. "We'll work with them, and we both know that they still have a ways to go working through their certification schedule.
"We don't want to be pushing on just the schedule because the most important thing is for them to develop their systems in a careful (way), and we need to give them enough time to deliver their system as safely as possible," Lueders said.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 28.01.2015 19:58:32
Atlas 5 launch pad being prepared for astronaut crews (http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/01/28/atlas-5-launch-pad-being-prepared-for-astronaut-crews/)
ЦитатаWork on Boeing's CST-100 commercial crew capsule will ramp up at the program's new home base in Florida this year, with construction of a crew access tower at the Atlas 5 rocket's launch pad underway and assembly of a spacecraft test article due to begin in a converted space shuttle hangar.

"We started construction on the crew access tower on the Atlas 5 launch pad," said John Elbon said, vice president and general manager for Boeing's space exploration division. "That will be assembled in between the launches that happen on Atlas 5."

A formal groundbreaking ceremony is planned for February, but construction workers have already taken core samples to prepare for pouring of the tower's foundation, Boeing officials said Monday.

It will take about 18 months to complete construction of the tower, which will be installed a few feet to the west of the Atlas 5's launch pad at Cape Canaveral.

When the structure is finished, astronauts will use it to board the CST-100 capsule mounted atop United Launch Alliance's Atlas 5 rocket. The commercial spaceship will launch on a version of the workhorse booster with two solid rocket boosters and two RL10 upper stage engines.

The CST-100's first two space missions -- an unpiloted test flight and a demo mission with a two-person crew -- are set for April and July 2017.

"The 52nd Atlas 5 mission flew a week or so ago," Elbon said Monday. "Our orbital flight test, which is the uncrewed flight to the station, will be the 74th Atlas 5 mission, and the crewed flight test will be the 80th Atlas 5 mission. We've got those flights on the manifest, which is exciting."

Boeing won a contract worth up to $4.2 billion to complete development of the CST-100 spacecraft and fly at least six operational missions to rotate astronaut crews on the International Space Station. The capsule will remain attached to the complex for up to 210 days, serving as a lifeboat back to Earth in case of an emergency.



SpaceX is working on a separate spacecraft dubbed the Crew Dragon, which will blast off on a Falcon 9 rocket from Kennedy Space Center's Apollo- and shuttle-era launch pad 39A -- now undergoing its own modifications.

One of the most visible changes in store at Cape Canaveral will be the build-up of a new structure at the Atlas 5's launch facility.

The launch complex was originally designed as a "clean pad" without permanent service towers. The Atlas 5 rocket is stacked in the Vertical Integration Facility about 1,800 feet south of the launch pad. The rocket rolls to the launch pad on the eve of liftoff on top of a mobile launch table, which locks into place over the flame trench to connect the rocket with propellant plumbing and electrical power.

Engineers will assemble a crew access tower standing more than 20 stories tall, topped with a retractable arm with a white room through which astronauts will enter the CST-100 spacecraft. Engineers also designed a crew escape system designed to whisk astronauts safely away from the rocket in case of a dangerous countdown mishap.

The tower, which will sit on a 20-foot by 20-foot ground footprint, will be about a car width away from the mounting point for the Atlas 5 rocket's mobile umbilical tower and launch platform.

ULA officials told reporters in a briefing last year the construction project would take about 18 months to complete. One of the first steps in construction will be to excavate about 30 feet of concrete, then drive 30-inch diameter pillars 105 feet into Florida bedrock.

Workers will prepare seven segments comprising the main structure of the crew access tower at a nearby staging point before transporting the steel sections to the launch pad between Atlas 5 launches for hoisting by a crane.

Once construction teams add the crew access arm and steel cladding, ULA plans to hook up hydraulics and instrumentation while testing the system with a CST-100 mockup at the launch pad.

The Atlas 5's busy manifest, filled with missions for the U.S. military, NASA and commercial customers, will continue unabated during the launch pad rework.

Up to 14 Atlas 5 launches are planned from the launch pad during the 18-month construction phase.

Orlando, Florida-based Hensel Phelps Construction Co. is leading the contractor team working on the Atlas 5 launch pad modifications.

ULA is also working on an emergency detection system to be bolted to Atlas 5 rockets on crewed missions. The avionics box will monitor the health of the launch vehicle and trigger an in-flight abort if it detects a major anomaly.



While construction crews work on the Atlas 5 launch pad, Boeing expects the first CST-100 capsule components to arrive at the spacecraft's manufacturing facility at Kennedy Space Center in February, Elbon said.

The components will be integrated into the CST-100's structural test article, a ground version of the capsule designed for testing.

"We build that up and we load it to make sure that the design matches the load paths," Elbon said. "This fall, the pieces that will make up the qualification test vehicle, which then gets refurbished to become the crew flight test vehicle, will be arriving."

Boeing's CST-100 factory is inside the space shuttle program's Orbiter Processing Facility No. 3, which NASA used to work on shuttles between flights. Boeing has renamed the building -- to the northwest of the huge Vehicle Assembly Building -- the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility, or C3PF.

Most of Boeing's CST-100 team will relocate to Florida this year. The capsule's critical design review is scheduled for March, Elbon said, completing the program's design phase and clearing the spacecraft to begin manufacturing.

Some of the program's offices responsible for crew training and mission operations will remain in Houston. The same mission control and crew training team -- composed of NASA civil servant and contractors -- that oversees daily activities on the space station and prepares astronauts for spaceflight have been subcontracted to work on Boeing's commercial space capsule.

"Our design activity has happened here in Houston," Elbon told reporters at JSC. "We've got 400 to 500 people working here today. We've teamed with the NASA flight operations directorate to do our mission planning, training and flying, mainly to leverage that expertise. That organization is world-class, and they've been doing that for a long time. That will be done here.

"The crew will be trained in Houston, the mission planning will be done in Houston, and mission control will be out of the Mission Control Center," Elbon said. "Having said that, all the manufacturing, the program office and the engineering will eventually migrate to Florida. We're building up the team in Florida as we finish the design in Houston."

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 31.01.2015 21:32:48
Про все 3 корабля:ВИДЕО (http://youtu.be/W0i1pdHJmzM)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Grus от 02.02.2015 21:45:18
ЦитатаGarixon пишет: с ними родимыми, или американцы всерьёз решили отвалить Боингу 6,8 млрд баксов, при том что Спэйсэксу досталось всего лишь 2,6 тех же самых млрдов, только для того чтоб на ветер деньги пустить, с учётом натянутых отношений с Россией, России так же выгодно засылать "партнёрских астронов на МКС так же как и продавать за бугор свои движки, Маск уже пытался пролоббировать закон на запрет закупок РД-180, и остался с носом, буквально несколько дней назад был запущен Атлас-5 с секретной ПН
Читайте внимательно, Boeing - 4,2 миллиарда. И Маск не остался с носом, а добился, что его в начале этого года окончательно сертифицируют для запуска нагрузок ВВС и он будет участвовать в тендерах. Этого он и добивался.

Еще вы не знаете значения слова "лоббировать". Он подал иск и получил судебный запрет. Запрет отменили, но приняли закон. Так это делается у них. Но закон касается заключения контрактов, а не исполнения.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Gaetanomarano от 05.02.2015 07:25:17
Astronauts to fly on an Atlas in 2017 ... 55 years after John Glenn's first flight on the Atlas booster/vehicle family.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 07.02.2015 08:27:47
ЦитатаGrus пишет:
Читайте внимательно, Boeing - 4,2 миллиарда. И Маск не остался с носом, а добился, что его в начале этого года окончательно сертифицируют для запуска нагрузок ВВС и он будет участвовать в тендерах. Этого он и добивался.

Еще вы не знаете значения слова "лоббировать". Он подал иск и получил судебный запрет. Запрет отменили, но приняли закон. Так это делается у них. Но закон касается заключения контрактов, а не исполнения.
ну да, про Boeing я допустил описку, а что касаемо остального - после того как в РФ запретили поставлять в Штаты, РД-180 на Атлас-5 для военных ПН, и подал иск в Конгресс США? насколько мне помнится, именно Конгресс наложил запрет тогда в целом, на закупки РД-180, и именно это я имел ввиду  ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 21.02.2015 15:36:00
Atlas V CST-100: Space Launch Complex-41 Pad Modifications
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgsKNv4HAbk

ЦитатаThe Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 spacecraft, which will launch atop ULA's Atlas V rocket from Cape Canaveral's Space Launch Complex (SLC)-41, is under development by Boeing. CST-100 will be certified to fly crews to and from the International Space Station. The team's innovative designs for a Crew Access Tower and Crew Access Arm allow flight crews to safely ingress and egress the CST-100 capsule. Each segment of the new tower and arm will be built at an off-site location and assembled at the pad between launches. The tower and other elements will take approximately 18 months and will not impact any scheduled launches at the pad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgsKNv4HAbk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgsKNv4HAbk)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.02.2015 12:41:30
http://youtu.be/zbQ6R1FGKrU (http://youtu.be/zbQ6R1FGKrU)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.02.2015 12:46:20
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/02/20/launch-america-getting-new-access-gantry-for-astronauts-2/
ЦитатаLaunch America getting new access gantry for astronauts       
Posted on February 20, 2015 by Justin Ray (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/justin-sfn-ray/)
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 CAPE CANAVERAL -- A groundbreaking Friday ceremonially commenced construction of an astronaut access tower at United Launch Alliance's Atlas 5 launch pad in Florida, a 200-foot-tall gantry that will add to the future of U.S. human spaceflight.
Atlas 5 rockets will launch Boeing's Crew Space Transportation-100 capsules starting in mid-2017, leading to NASA astronaut taxi missions to the International Space Station beginning at the end of 2017.
The CST-100 and the SpaceX crewed Dragon spacecraft are the near-term answer to returning launches of people to the U.S. since retirement of the space shuttle orbiters in 2011. The commercial providers will service the low-Earth orbit destination for NASA astronauts under the space policy spelled out by President Obama, leaving the space agency to focus on deep-space with its Orion vehicles.
"Today is a very important date in space history. It was 53 years ago today that John Glenn was the first American to orbit the Earth, launching on an Atlas rocket just a few miles from here," said Jim Sponnick, vice president of Atlas and Delta Programs at ULA.
"We're thrilled to be collaborating with The Boeing Co. and NASA to be continuing that legacy and returning America to launching astronauts to the space station."
The CST-100's first two space missions will see an unpiloted test flight in April 2017 and a demo mission with a two-person crew in July 2017.
The Atlas 5, having flown 52 times since its debut August 2002 in unmanned satellite-deployment missions, has carried out 19 flights dedicated to the Defense Department, 11 for NASA, 11 with spy satellites for the National Reconnaissance Office and 11 commercial missions with communications and Earth-observing spacecraft.
"The Atlas 5, with unrivaled technical and schedule reliability, is the obvious choice for a commercial crew launch vehicle. We've had 52 successful launches, 100 percent mission success, and we're really excited that Flight No. 73 is going to have a CST-100 capsule," said John Mulholland, vice president of Boeing commercial programs.
The new crew access tower, positioned in the northwest corner of the launch pad, is being built in sections off-site and moved to Complex 41 in between ongoing Atlas launch activities for stacking. It will take 18 months to complete.
"It's really unique the way ULA is conducting all of the pad modifications here in the middle of one of the busiest manifests at any pad," Mulholland said.
Once built, the tower will stand 200 feet tall and feature an elevator to take personnel from the ground to the top, a slide-wire basket evacuation system for emergencies and a 42-foot-long swing arm at the 172-foot-level that will be the threshold to enter the capsules.
The CST-100 is designed to transport up to seven passengers or a mix of crew and cargo to low-Earth orbit destinations such as the International Space Station and Bigelow's planned commercial station. The capsules are designed to be reused up to 10 times.
The vehicles, with a crew compartment and a service module, will be operated from a hub at Kennedy Space Center, using the former space shuttle processing hangar No. 3 to build and ready the capsules for flight.
Atlas 5s will be assembled in the Vertical Integration Facility and then rolled out to the launch pad, spending minimal time in the "clean pad" concept of operations used by ULA at Complex 41.
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 The rocket will fly in the man-rated 422 configuration, which is a two-stage launcher with a Common Core Booster powered by an RD-180 main engine, two strap-on Aerojet Rocketdyne solid-fuel boosters and a Centaur upper stage with dual RL10 engines also made by Aerojet Rocketdyne.
NASA says it will soon pick a cadre of astronauts to begin training on both the Boeing and SpaceX vehicles. The actual first crewmwembers to fly them will come from the group.
The remodeling of the KSC hangar is progressing ahead of arrival for the structural test article hardware and later this year the hardware for crewed flight test for assembly.
Boeing engineers are finishing the design in preparation for the Critical Design Review in March that locks in the systems' architecture and allows manufacturing to begin in earnest.
Later this summer, the flight software will be completed and will power flight displays in the simulator for astronauts to practice. Eventual training simulators include a mission spacecraft for mock flight, an ingress/egress trainer and a water egress trainer at the Johnson Space Center in Houston.
"It's important that the spacecraft have manual controls. It's designedly largely to be autonomous, but the pilot will always be there to back up the autonomy in case something happens. It's sort of like a belt and suspenders for a spacecraft," said Chris Ferguson, the final shuttle crew commander and now Boeing's crew and mission operations director.
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 A launch pad abort test is planned for February 2017, followed in April by an uncrewed CST-100 flight to the International Space Station. The first crewed mission -- featuring one Boeing test pilot and one NASA astronaut -- is planned for July 2017. The first taxi services mission for NASA to the space station by Boeing is planned for December 2017.
"I don't ever want to write another check to Roscosmos after 2017, hopefully, that's why I'm looking to (Boeing) and (SpaceX) to deliver. You heard both of them say they'll be flying by 2017. If we can make that date, I'm a happy camper," said NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden.
"We are planning for a first day rendezvous. The capsule will then stay connected to station for six months as a lifeboat, then leave station and land within five-to-six hours. It's a very similar profile to Soyuz," said John Elbon, vice president and general manager for Boeing's space exploration division.
"The CST-100 capsule is designed to be used 10 times. So we will recover it, refurbish it in the facility at KSC and fly it again," said Elbon.
"Commercial crew is incredibly important to the space station, it's important to reduce the cost of transportation to low-Earth orbit so that NASA has within its budget the capability to develop means to explore beyond low-Earth orbit," Elbon said. "And importantly, I think, it's beginning a whole new industry. ... We're making great progress on the program."
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 17.03.2015 18:20:31
http://vz.ru/news/2015/3/17/734813.html
ЦитатаВ состав экипажа нового американского корабля может войти российский космонавт
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17 марта 2015, 11:36
Фото: nasa.gov

В состав экипажа американского коммерческого корабля, который отправится к МКС в конце 2017 - начале 2018 года, предложено включить российского космонавта, сообщил источник в ракетно-космической отрасли.

«Американская сторона в рамках двухсторонних договоренностей предложила включить в состав корабля CST-100 одного российского космонавта», - сообщил источник ТАСС (http://tass.ru/).
По его словам, кандидатов на полет несколько, включая Олега Котова, Александра Калери, Федора Юрчихина и Олега Артемьева. «Российская сторона определится с кандидатом в ноябре - декабре этого года», -  уточнил источник.
Boeing уже не первый год работает над созданием пилотируемого корабля, получившего название CST-100. В корабле четыре места - три из них займут американские астронавты.
В прошлом году в НАСА решили выделить Boeing 4,2 млрд долларов на достраивание корабля.
Космическое агентство США рассчитывает, что новый корабль сможет совершить свой первый испытательный полет в 2017 году. Директор НАСА Чарльз Болден заявил, что это позволит Соединенным Штатам «отказаться от зависимости от России в отправке астронавтов на МКС». В настоящее время международные экипажи добираются до орбитального комплекса только на российских «Союзах».
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 17.03.2015 20:02:39
Цитатаhttp://tass.ru/kosmos/1833681
Россиянин может попасть на первый рейс нового американского космического корабля

МОСКВА, 17 марта. /ТАСС/. Российский космонавт может войти в состав экипажа американского коммерческого корабля CST-100, который отправится к МКС в конце 2017 - начале 2018 года, сообщил сегодня ТАСС источник в ракетно-космической отрасли.

"Американская сторона в рамках двухсторонних договоренностей предложила включить в состав корабля CST-100 одного российского космонавта", - сказал собеседник агентства.
По его словам, кандидатов на полет несколько, включая Олега Котова, Александра Калери, Федора Юрчихина и Олега Артемьева. "Российская сторона определится с кандидатом в ноябре-декабре этого года", - уточнил источник.
Официальный комментарий Роскосмоса и Центра подготовки космонавтов ТАСС получить пока не удалось.
Планируется, что полет CST-100 к Международной космической станции может состояться в период с декабря 2017 по май 2018 года. Корабль, разрабатываемый компанией Boeing, будет четырехместным - еще три места займут американские астронавты.

Полеты по взаимозачету
Полеты российских космонавтов на МКС на американских кораблях будут проводиться по взаимозачету за полеты американцев на кораблях серии "Союз", сообщил ТАСС директор программ пилотируемых космических полетов НАСА в России Шон Фуллер.
"Мы будем взаимно обмениваться местами на наших кораблях", - пояснил он.
"Мы предполагаем, что на "Союзе", где три места, будут летать два русских космонавта и один американский астронавт, а на коммерческом американском корабле будут три американских астронавта и один русский космонавт, поскольку там четыре места", - уточнил Фуллер.
Таким образом он прокомментировал данные о том, что российских космонавт может войти в состав экипажа американского корабля CST-100 от Boeing, который, как ожидается, отправится к МКС в конце 2017 - начале 2018 года.
"Мы ожидаем, что в конце 2017 года будут осуществляться полеты этих кораблей, и они будут доставлять четырех членов экипажа на космическую станцию", - сказал собеседник агентства.
Таким образом, подчеркнул он, доставлять космонавтов на МКС смогут российские "Союзы", а также американские корабли разработки Boeing и SpaceX. Сегодня для доставки экипажей на станции используются только "Союзы". Осенью НАСА планирует подписать с Роскосмосом очередной контракт по доставке астронавтов на МКС, рассчитанный на 2018 год.
На первый рейс они кажется погорячились в жарком заголовке.
Да и насчет трех американских астронавтов на американском корабле кажется пишут неправильно - европейцы, японцы на чем летать будут?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 17.03.2015 21:46:23
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
В состав экипажа нового американского корабля может войти российский космонавт
Заложника хотя взять на случай отказа РД-180 :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Инфан от 18.03.2015 05:22:22
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
http://vz.ru/news/2015/3/17/734813.html
ЦитатаВ состав экипажа нового американского корабля может войти российский космонавт
А если без шуток, то - нафига?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 18.03.2015 01:34:30
ЦитатаДмитрий Инфан пишет:
А если без шуток, то - нафига?
Для того, чтобы в Союзе тоже сидел один варяг.
Таким образом при любом развитии событий обеспечивается присутствие на МКС хотя бы одного человека ответственного за свой сегмент.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: sychbird от 19.03.2015 08:32:32
Интересно, а то что речь зашла именно о СST -100, а не о Dragone имеет какое-то значение в смысле прогнозов НАСА о времени первого полета к МКС нового поколения американских пилотируемых кораблей :?:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 19.03.2015 10:42:14
Цитатаsychbird пишет:
имеет какое-то значение в смысле прогнозов НАСА
Писали несколько месяцев назад, что в документах НАСА фигурирует именно CST-100 как первый корабль, который отправится к МКС с плановым (не испытательным) рейсом. А вот в планах испытаний, которые компании составляют самостоятельно, Dragon с астронавтами должен посетить МКС на три месяца раньше CST-100.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Grumant от 19.03.2015 08:16:06
Союзы долго наращивали свой ресурс, прежде чем отпала необходимость в замене кораблей на орбите. Американские капсулы сразу по полгода летать будут?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: fredddy от 19.03.2015 10:00:41
ЦитатаGrumant пишет:
Союзы долго наращивали свой ресурс, прежде чем отпала необходимость в замене кораблей на орбите. Американские капсулы сразу по полгода летать будут?
Конечно же не сразу. Тоже будут наращивать ресурс.
Вот например x37 так наращивал - 225 дней, 468, 674 дня.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Grumant от 19.03.2015 09:55:26
X37 беспилотно наростил свой ресурс. Посмотрим на возможности пилотируемых иксов.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Grus от 19.03.2015 14:53:53
Цитатаsychbird пишет:
Интересно, а то что речь зашла именно о СST -100, а не о Dragone имеет какое-то значение в смысле прогнозов НАСА о времени первого полета к МКС нового поколения американских пилотируемых кораблей  :?:

Носитель CST-100 сертифицирован, сам CST-100 прошел бросковые испытания. В отличии.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Настоящий Искандер от 20.03.2015 04:30:25
значит уже выбрали
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Искандер от 22.03.2015 03:08:42
ЦитатаGrus пишет:
Цитатаsychbird пишет:
Интересно, а то что речь зашла именно о СST -100, а не о Dragone имеет какое-то значение в смысле прогнозов НАСА о времени первого полета к МКС нового поколения американских пилотируемых кораблей  :?:  

Носитель CST-100 сертифицирован, сам CST-100 прошел бросковые испытания. В отличии.
Ну, а САС?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Антон от 22.03.2015 04:01:49
ЦитатаGrus пишет:
Цитатаsychbird пишет:
Интересно, а то что речь зашла именно о СST -100, а не о Dragone имеет какое-то значение в смысле прогнозов НАСА о времени первого полета к МКС нового поколения американских пилотируемых кораблей  :?:  

Носитель CST-100 сертифицирован, сам CST-100 прошел бросковые испытания. В отличии.
Зато основа пилотируемого дракона уже успешно в космос летает, в отличии
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Not от 22.03.2015 18:57:38
ЦитатаАнтон пишет:
ЦитатаGrus пишет:

Носитель CST-100 сертифицирован, сам CST-100 прошел бросковые испытания. В отличии.
Зато основа пилотируемого дракона уже успешно в космос летает, в отличии
Успешно летать в космос для Боинга проблемой не является, а значит и надобности запускать функционально ограниченные кастрюли нет, в отличии.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Veganin от 22.03.2015 09:04:16
ЦитатаАнтон пишет:
Зато основа пилотируемого дракона уже успешно в космос летает, в отличии
Если говорить точно, то в космос летает совершенно другая машина, другое изделие.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 23.03.2015 22:55:34
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/missions/commercial/rockets-commercial-crew-launches-begin-come-together/
ЦитатаRockets for Commercial Crew launches begin to come together   
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Boeing's Chris Ferguson said the first two Atlas V's to launch the CST-100 will have a parking spot on United Launch Alliance's factory floor in Decatur soon. Photo Credit: ULA         
             
NASA
March 23rd, 2015          
                                 
The codes AV-073 and AV-080 may not mean much to many, but they mean a whole lot to former astronaut Chris Ferguson and the team of engineers and technicians who will assemble the first Atlas V rocket to launch a crew to the International Space Station. That test and a precursor flight without crew are part of the final development work Boeing is completing with NASA's Commercial Crew Program to certify a new crew transportation system for low-Earth orbit.
On its factory floor in Decatur, Alabama, United Launch Alliance, or ULA, is beginning to fabricate parts for the two rockets that are to launch Boeing's CST-100 spacecraft in 2017.
As Boeing's director of Crew and Mission Systems for the company's commercial crew division, Ferguson toured ULA's assembly factory this week to watch the rockets begin to take shape. Ferguson's last spacecraft, NASA's space shuttle Atlantis, already was built and had achieved veteran spaceflight status years before "Fergie," as he is known, climbed into the commander's seat for the last of the shuttle missions in 2011. Beginning later this year, the CST-100 spacecraft that will launch atop the Atlases will be assembled at another place familiar to Ferguson, a former space shuttle hangar at NASA's Kennedy Space Center.
"The last time we were at this stage of development for a human spacecraft was in the 1970s when we were building the shuttle," Ferguson said. "I have Apollo manuals on my desk -- not to copy designs but to understand how they did it and to validate the decisions we've made with regard to provisions for the crew, what kind of spacesuits they wear, what kind of seats they sit in, and why they sit that way. Engineers put an enormous amount of thought into many low-level designs decades ago, but now we're trying to recreate the "why" behind all that. It's a little intimidating, but it's fun. You learn why the space program took the shape it is today over five decades ago."
Just like airplanes, rockets have unique tail numbers, or codes, that distinguish them from one another. AV-073 is the 73rd Atlas V that will be built, and AV-080 is the 80th in the line of boosters. Both have another distinguishing characteristic from other Atlas V launch vehicles, as well - since no previous Atlas V has carried people into space, these will be the first to be certified to launch humans. Up until this point, the rockets have been used to lift more than 60 critical missions without people: satellites, robotic probes and even the Mars rovers.
"To have Chris come in and talk to the team really put a face to the program," said Fred Hernandez, production operations chief engineer for ULA. "We're so used to launching things, and so to get to see the people involved in the launching of humans means we're that much closer to our goal."
The factory is building pieces of the rocket unique to the CST-100/Atlas V stack that will be used in the testing regimen. The adapter connecting the top of the rocket's upper stage to the spacecraft, for example, is a new piece that has been meticulously designed and must be built with equal care.
"There are a lot of different major structures for the flight test vehicles that are going through the factory now," Hernandez said.
Manufacturing also has begun for the fuel and oxygen tanks of the Centaur upper stage that will provide the final push to get the CST-100 and its crews into Earth obit.
"They begin constructing the rocket about 18 months in advance, so it's still a little early, but a lot of the parts that will go into our first vehicle are here," Ferguson said. "So component-level assembly's going on. We don't have a parking spot out here yet, but it comes very soon. And by the end of the year we will have an actual slot.  It'll become very, very real when that happens."
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Chris Ferguson, a former astronaut, talks to engineers and technicians who will assemble the first Atlas V rockets to launch crews aboard Boeing's CST-100 to the International Space Station for NASA's Commercial Crew flight tests.
 Photo Credit: ULA
 
NASA's Commercial Crew Program relied on years of human spaceflight experience to develop the requirements needed to ensure transportation systems are qualified to fly astronauts. Through a Commercial Crew Transportation Capability, or CCtCap, contract, NASA will work with Boeing to ensure its rocket, spacecraft and associated ground and mission systems are safe and reliable.
For starters, each Atlas V will carry an extensive suite of sensors and fly with a robust computer that together will be able to detect a problem in the booster as it launches and ascends into space. Although unlikely to occur, a problem severe enough to risk the mission would trigger an abort sequence for the rocket that would automatically eject the spacecraft and carry its astronaut crew back to Earth safely. Additionally, the boosters for the CST-100 flights will use a Centaur upper stage fitted with two RL10 engines, instead of the usual single engine, to provide added performance.
"We fortunately don't see a lot of surprises in manufacturing," Hernandez said. "The Atlas line builds 10 or 11 rockets a year, and that rhythm alone helps to minimize a lot of the issues that we could have."
AV-073 will be outfitted as though it is carrying a crew but will fly the CST-100 without astronauts in an orbital flight test, a significant step on Boeing's path to certification.
AV-080 is the rocket that will carry the first people inside a CST-100 for a flight into space. Still a flight test, the objective is to launch the Atlas V from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station and place the CST-100 on a path to the station. Crew members will fly to the orbiting laboratory and stay there for a few days while the spacecraft's systems are evaluated for their performance. The flight test crew would then use the vehicle to return home to the United States, completing the test.
Although still about two years away, the flight tests are close enough to prompt excitement and ramp up anticipation almost daily at the Atlas V assembly hall.
"We're obviously very proud of our success rate, and we're sort of taking the approach that we have a recipe for mission success, and we have to continue to execute on that," Hernandez said. "If we keep that focus, that will transition over into the crew vehicles as well."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.03.2015 07:38:01
http://www.americaspace.com/?p=78842#more-78842
ЦитатаUS Human Path Back to Space Rising This Summer at ULA Launch Pad and Rocket Factory       
By Ken Kremer
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Launch Complex 41 gets a radical new look and use soon!
 Artist's concept of Boeing's CST-100 space taxi ready for liftoff atop a man rated ULA Atlas-V rocket showing new crew access tower and arm at Space Launch Complex 41, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fl. Credit: ULA
 
CAPE CANAVERAL AIR FORCE STATION, FL - America's human path (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=73981) back to space fr om U.S. soil starts rising rapidly this summer, as construction of the new crew access tower for ULA's Atlas V  (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=62533)"space taxi" rocket moves into high gear at Cape Canaveral, Fla., while the newly human-rated booster launching from it and carrying Boeing's (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=73105) CST-100 crew capsule (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=74306) to orbit and the International Space Station  (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=78642)(ISS) simultaneously starts assembly at ULA's rocket factory in Decatur, Ala.
The entirely new 200-foot-tall "tower structure goes up rather quickly this summer [2015] at launch pad 41," Howard Biegler, ULA's (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=78789) Human Launch Services Lead, told AmericaSpace during an exclusive interview detailing pad modifications and construction at the Atlas V Launch Complex 41 facility at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla.
"The entire tower will be erected over six weeks in the summer. It's like an erector set!"
Space Launch Complex-41 (SLC-41) is being significantly modified to accommodate astronaut launches (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=67537) now that NASA has officially sel ected the two firms--Boeing (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=68911) and SpaceX (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=73778)--to build the world's first privately developed crewed spaceships for blastoff to the ISS (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=78500).
"Construction by the Hensel Phelps team effectively started in January 2015 and we are in the process of making this a reality," Biegler said.
Meanwhile, ULA has begun fabricating long lead time parts of the pair of 20-story-tall Atlas V rockets that are to launch the CST-100 spacecraft on its first uncrewed and crewed test flights in 2017 from the newly upgraded pad 41.
Those two Atlas V rockets are dubbed with unique, distinguishing tail numbers--AV-073 and AV-080--and will be the first of that family to be certified by ULA and NASA to launch humans to the ISS.
Chris Ferguson (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=61840), commander of NASA's final shuttle flight and now director of Boeing's CST-100 Crew and Mission Operations, recently toured the 1.6 million square foot Decatur facility and met with the engineering teams manufacturing the Atlas Vs for the historic 2017 liftoffs. Read the exclusive interview with Ferguson here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=61840) and here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=61328).
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Boeing's Chris Ferguson said the first two Atlas V's to launch the CST-100 will have a parking spot on United Launch Alliance's factory floor in Decatur soon. Credit: ULA
 
To accomplish all that, the Cape Canaveral skyline will change rapidly and dramatically, starting in July with visibly tangible progress toward restoring America's manned access to space that was totally lost following the forced retirement of the shuttles after touchdown of Ferguson's crew on the STS-135 mission in 2011 at the Kennedy Space Center's shuttle landing facility (SLF).
On Sept. 16, 2014, NASA Administrator Charles Bolden announced at KSC that Boeing and SpaceX were both awarded contracts under NASA's Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) program and Launch America initiative to finalize the design and develop their CST-100 and Dragon V2 crewed spaceships respectively, aimed at returning human spaceflight launches to the United States by 2017 and end our sole source reliance on Russia.
The metal latticework for ULA's 20-story-high Atlas tower was designed to be modular for ease of construction, and literally ascends skyward as crews stack the structural steel components atop one another piece by piece with cranes.
Since pad 41 is one of the most active launch pads in the world, and ULA can't afford to halt launches on its packed manifest, construction of the crew access tower has been carefully planned to take place in between the lucrative launches for a variety of clients, including civilian and military entities from the government and commercial customers.
"The tower is comprised of 7 major tier segments," Biegler told AmericaSpace. "Each is about 20 foot square and 28 feet tall.''
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ULA and Boeing executives posing atop Atlas V launch pad at Space Launch Complex 41 which will be modified to launch Boeing CST-100 spaceship to ISS - including Howard Biegler, ULA Human Spaceflight lead, 3rd from left, Dan Collins, ULA COO, John Elbon, Boeing VP Space Exploration, and Frank DelBello, Space Florida. Credit: Ken Kremer - kenkremer.com
 
The ceremonial groundbreaking ceremony to start tower construction was held Feb. 20, 2015.
The crew access tower is the first of its kind to be built in decades on the Florida Space coast and will enable astronauts and support personnel access to a rocket awaiting blastoff to space.
"The first truss segment will be transported out to the pad and installed in the July time frame," Biegler elaborated. "That will be an above ground segment."
"The rest happens quick over the course of a six or seven week period. So the remaining pieces of the tower goes up rather quickly."
"We plan to have the entire tower erected over six weeks in the summer. It's like an erector set! Its built off site in its entirety. Then it's just a matter of bolting the pieces together."
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"It's the longest work window we have this summer. So, barring unforeseen delays, the plan is for the major structure to be completed in one mod window, this summer," Biegler told AmericaSpace.
Piece parts for the truss segments are built off site and then trucked to a construction lot on the Cape by the ASOC, or Atlas Space Operations Center.
"We will start mobilizing the iron workers to start fabrication of the tower pieces later this month and in early April," Beigler stated.
Then the parts undergo final assembly into the individual major tier segments of the crew access tower by the ASOC.
"The first complete tier segment will be done by mid to late April."
The segments will then be trucked to pad 41 and stacked this summer.
"The goal is to have the major tower structure built and complete over the summer."
But before any tower assembly can take place, an area of concrete on the pad surface structure had to be demolished and hammered away. The work started right around the launch of MUOS-3 in January, and the site is now being excavated down to a depth of some 13 feet.
"Currently at the pad we have drilled and poured ten 42-inch-diameter piers, during what is known as the 3rd defined mod [construction] window. They are each 105 feet deep," Biegler explained.
"Altogether there are 15 mod, or work windows which are defined periods of time when there is no launch vehicle at the pad."
"Leading up to the last launch, which was MMS [Magnetospheric Multiscale mission for NASA (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=60403) on March 12], we did some concrete demolition, enough to accommodate the ten piers. We also installed the sheet piles [like a retainer wall] on the north and south sides and pond liner to catch wastewater from launches."
"Construction was demobilized briefly to accommodate the MMS (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=78176) launch." (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=78355)
Work in this work window will continue until the next Atlas launch in May, "starting with a mass excavation down to about 13.5 feet. The old MST tracks from the Titan Centaur days will also be cut out and removed. Then the dowels will be installed to secure the crew access tower."
"Right now we are working no issues with the construction effort. We are actually a little bit ahead of schedule, despite the delays in NASA awarding the commercial crew contracts from the summer until September and then the SNC protest. (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=68911)"
"We will enter our fourth 'mod window' after the Atlas launch in May."
After the tower is erected comes all the remaining steel, electrical, plumbing, staircase, structure, testing, and calibration work over the next year.
"After the tower buildup comes the extensive work to outfit the tower with over 400 pieces of outboard steel that have to be installed. That takes much longer and will be done over the course of the next two mod windows," Biegler said.
"In parallel with that is the arm buildup."
"The completely integrated and tested crew access arm and walkway should be brought out to the launch site around May 2016 roughly."
"The arm will be fully tested with the torque tube to make sure it meets all the line requirements."
After the crew tower is installed, the look of the SLC-41 will change drastically from the current "clean pad" design, which features only the reinforced concrete hard stand and four lightning towers.
Only very minor changes are planned for the Vertical Integration Facility, a building about 1,800 feet to the south wh ere the Atlas V rocket is assembled.
"The plan is to finish all the site construction, testing [and certification] done by September 2016," Biegler explained.
The arm installation, plumbing, and hydraulic drive system installation will take about a month, followed by all the validation testing by the contractor.
"Then it's turned over to my team to do all the acceptance testing," Biegler stated.
"The work will wrap up in September 2016."
Indeed, if the funding was available to get Boeing's space taxi capsule ready sooner, the first crew could launch on the first CST-100 test flight as soon as the tower is declared operational in September 2016.
"We could launch after completion in September 2016. Earlier in the [CCP] program we had to plan for launches as early as December 2016. And we have never slipped off of our September 2016 completion date."
(http://www.americaspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_1043_1a_CST-100_Ken-Kremer.jpg) (http://www.americaspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_1043_1a_CST-100_Ken-Kremer.jpg)
ULA is building a new crew access tower and access arm that will lead to the hatch opening to Boeing's commercial CST-100 crew transporter. Credit: Ken Kremer - kenkremer.com
 
"But the team has been instructed that we don't want to do anything that presents risk!"
The currently planned launch date for the first unmanned CST-100 test flight is roughly around February 2017 and subject to manifest changes.
The actual launch date hinges on the NASA budgets approved by the Obama Administration and U.S. Congress.
Since the retirement of the shuttle, American astronauts have been totally dependent on the Russian Soyuz capsule for rides to the ISS and back, at a cost now exceeding $70 million per seat.
NASA Administrator Charles Bolden has said that he doesn't want to write any more checks to Roscosmos and that any cut in CCP funding from the Obama Administration's FY 2016 budget request will delay the program and first launch.
See video below detailing construction of ULA's commercial crew access tower at pad 41:
https://youtu.be/ukyeCnrWvGs (https://youtu.be/ukyeCnrWvGs)
Video caption: New Commercial Crew Access Tower Going Up. Boeing and United Launch Alliance will add to the Space Coast skyline with the 200-foot-tall tower. It will be assembled over 18 months at Space Launch Complex 41 and is designed to meet the needs of test pilots, astronauts and support personnel who will access Boeing's CST-100 before it launches atop an Atlas V. Credit: NASA
No humans have ever launched to space fr om SLC-41. And it's been over 50 years since astronauts launched on an Atlas rocket. Among them was Mercury astronaut John Glenn, the first American to orbit the Earth, back on Feb. 20, 1962.
For further details, be sure to read the prior articles outlining the CST-100 in an exclusive interview with Chris Ferguson, commander of NASA's final shuttle flight and now director of Boeing's Crew and Mission Operations, here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=61840) and here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=61328).
Meanwhile, NASA simultaneously continues pushing forward with its deep space pillar of human spaceflight (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=74701) involving Orion and SLS. Read the latest updates here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=67537) and here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=75351) and here (http://www.americaspace.com/?p=69435).
Stay tuned here for continuing updates.

Ken Kremer (http://www.kenkremer.com)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 05.06.2015 16:49:26
Цитата http://sen.com/news/nasa-orders-first-station-crew-flight-from-boeing
NASA orders first station crew flight from Boeing
//Irene Klotz, Spaceflight Correspondent
May 28, 2015, 14:37 UTC
NASA has issued its first order for a U.S. spaceflight to ferry astronauts to the International Space Station to Boeing and expects to make a similar buy from SpaceX later this year. 
The price of the flight, slated for late 2017, was not disclosed "due to potential future competitions for missions," said NASA spokeswoman Stephanie Martin. 
NASA placed the order after Boeing successfully completed a series of preliminary milestones, including a recent critical design review of its CST-100 capsule.....
"We're not releasing what NASA will pay per flight," said Boeing spokeswoman Kelly Kaplan. 
"The price for the service missions is wrapped into the original award. " In a press release, NASA said that just because Boeing was awarded the first flight order doesn't mean that it will fly before SpaceX.......
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 06.06.2015 06:07:42
А на чем они сейчас летать собираются? Или РД-180 только пентагону запретили?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 06.06.2015 14:25:18
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
А на чем они сейчас летать собираются? Или РД-180 только пентагону запретили?
по ссылке к новости выше
ЦитатаThe same number of flights is part of a second contract NASA has with SpaceX, though the total value of that award is $2.6 billion. SpaceX is developing a passenger version of its Dragon cargo ship. It will launch on the company's Falcon 9 rocket. Boeing is flying on a United Launch Alliance Atlas 5.
Пока про американские движки на Атлас 5 в 2017-2018 году не было слышно. А слышно про работы по сертификации РД-180 к пилотируемым полетам. 
а тут пишут по попытки по замене РД-180 для ВВС к 2019 году http://spacenews.com/u-s-air-force-isses-rfp-aimed-at-ending-reliance-on-russian-rocket-engine/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 06.06.2015 22:15:30
в новостях на этой странице нету 
Цитата http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/05/nasa-evaluating-commercial-loss-crew-mishap/
NASA evaluating CCP Loss Of Crew and Mishap procedures
May 30, 2015 by Chris Bergin
.....For Boeing, its CST-100 will first launch on an uncrewed test flight to the Station via the "Boe-OFT" mission in Apr, 2017 - on a 30 days mission, ending with a parachute assisted return.  (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/05/boeings-cst-100-successful-full-landing-system-test/)
Should all go to plan, the second mission will involve a crew - yet to be selected - on a mission designated "Boe-CFT", launching in July, 2017, on a 14 day mission to the ISS.....
и тоже с большим текстом http://www.americaspace.com/?p=82504
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Serge от 09.06.2015 02:17:50
Цитатаfredddy пишет:
ЦитатаGrumant пишет:
Союзы долго наращивали свой ресурс, прежде чем отпала необходимость в замене кораблей на орбите. Американские капсулы сразу по полгода летать будут?
Конечно же не сразу. Тоже будут наращивать ресурс.
Вот например x37 так наращивал - 225 дней, 468, 674 дня.
А спутники и АМС вообще зачастую десятилетиями летают... , но при чем тут пилотируемая космонавтика ?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Floppy Disk от 22.06.2015 11:35:14
НАСА тестирует бронетранспортер для спасения астронавтов со стартовой площадки и готовится к запуску Boeing CST-100 (http://geektimes.ru/post/252284/)
(https://habrastorage.org/getpro/geektimes/post_images/e3c/f8b/00a/e3cf8b00a08d551e09a89dab765304df.jpg)
Видео теста (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMXCZVmL0Q)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 29.07.2015 20:56:01
https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/626090152285220865
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/506935946462261250/O-ZFGE5Y_bigger.jpeg) Stephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1  (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1)  
Hardware for CST-100 structural test article now at KSC for assembly. Work on Atlas 5 access tower also started.

 
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  11:01 - 28 июля 2015 г.  
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Oleg от 30.07.2015 18:22:51
когда первый запуск планируют?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 31.07.2015 10:59:14
ЦитатаOleg пишет:
когда первый запуск планируют?
Апрель 2017. Но это если проблемы с финансированием не приведут к переносу сроков.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 31.07.2015 08:24:38
ага. или РД-180 останутся  :)  RS-68 же не human rated?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 31.07.2015 11:48:15
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
ага. или РД-180 останутся  :)  RS-68 же не human rated?
Всерьез такая возможность не рассматривается. Куда они денутся.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 01.08.2015 13:16:35
кто куда денется? лоббистов юлы не хватило, вулкан будет черт знает когда, выведение на дельтах будет золотым, даже если смогут как-то сертифицировать. Маск их пошлет скорее всего, или сдерет с них последние трусы. И поделом
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 01.08.2015 16:59:29
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
кто куда денется? лоббистов юлы не хватило
На что?
Цитатавулкан будет черт знает когда
Так он вообще не для CST-100
Цитатавыведение на дельтах будет золотым
С чего бы?
Цитатадаже если смогут как-то сертифицировать
А может быть хотя бы призрак сомнений?
ЦитатаМаск их пошлет скорее всего, или сдерет с них последние трусы
С чего им вообще идти к конкуренту? У них есть Атлас, который не падал ни разу.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 01.08.2015 18:49:31
А НАСА может покупать двигатели к атласу или запрет касается только пентагона?
"С чего бы? " станут ли они тратится на это, с учетом выхода дельты на пенсию
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 01.08.2015 21:56:38
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
А НАСА может покупать двигатели к атласу или запрет касается только пентагона?
"С чего бы? " станут ли они тратится на это, с учетом выхода дельты на пенсию
Нет вообще никакого запрета.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 04.09.2015 16:33:05
ЦитатаStephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1  (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1) 3 мин.3 минуты назад (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/639793738458529792)
Boeing has moved in to former shuttle hangar at KSC. Grand opening ceremony for CST-100 factory today.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COEBA-ZWsAEmNYD.jpg)
 (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/639793738458529792/photo/1)

Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 9 мин.9 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/639792102306676736)Florida, USA (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A4ec01c9dbc693497)
Boeing got their Commercial Crew & Cargo Processing Facility mural done.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COD_hu0WUAAb_xn.jpg)
 (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/639792102306676736/photo/1)

Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 9 мин.9 минут назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/639792083302227968)
Really surprised the new name for CST-100 hasn't sneaked out there by now! (No, I don't know. Boeing folk are well drilled  :D  )
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 04.09.2015 17:56:23
ЦитатаJeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 2 мин.2 минуты назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/639815033627656192)
CST-100's new name is... Starliner.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Сергей Пиденко от 04.09.2015 17:06:36
Пышно... :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 04.09.2015 18:08:40
Пышно то пышно, но вот по что в ролике куски с Драконом были?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 04.09.2015 18:49:15
статья у НАСА
 http://www.nasa.gov/feature/boeing-revamps-production-facility-for-starliner-flights
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 04.09.2015 18:55:13
pnetmon,там про заключение контракта на доставку к МКС?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 04.09.2015 20:11:51
ЦитатаAstro Cat пишет:
pnetmon ,там про заключение контракта на доставку к МКС?
там про Обретении нового имени
ЦитатаBoeing Revamps Production Facility for Starliner Flights
Sep. 4, 2015
Meet the CST-100 Starliner, the newly unveiled name of Boeing's commercial crew transportation spacecraft. It's been designed with a focus on automated flight, reliable operation and frequent flights carrying NASA astronauts to the space station. It also may take paying customers to the awe-inspiring heights of low-Earth orbit and the unique sensation of sustained weightlessness.

NASA last year awarded contracts to Boeing and SpaceX to each develop systems that will safely and cost effectively transport astronauts to the International Space Station from the United States.....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CODyMJ8WUAAR4PX.jpg)
Цитатаhttp://tass.ru/kosmos/2237731
НЬЮ-ЙОРК, 4 сентября. /Корр. ТАСС Игорь Борисенко/. Новый космический корабль, который создает корпорация Boeing, будет называться Starliner ("Звездный лайнер" )
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 04.09.2015 20:26:12
Тори шутит:
ЦитатаTory Bruno ‏@torybruno  (https://twitter.com/torybruno) 36 мин.36 минут назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/639844063114600448)
.@dslsynth (https://twitter.com/dslsynth) I like it. Lobbied for Star-Lord or even Groot, but Starliner is definitely better
Тем временем:
ЦитатаChris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 2 ч.2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/639818748707381248)
Meanwhile, over in Hawthorne....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COEXwuRWcAE3JZy.jpg)
 (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/639818748707381248/photo/1)
Народ уже дошел до сравнения звуков в роликах Дракона и Старлайнера.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 04.09.2015 20:45:46
Цитатаhttp://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/04/boeing-names-its-commercial-spaceship-the-starliner/
...The Starliner name puts the CST-100 in company with the Model 307 Stratoliner and 787 Dreamliner, Boeing products which ushered in new eras in passenger transport....
....
An uncrewed test flight of the CST-100 Starliner capsule is planned for May 2017 to the space station, followed by a test of the craft's emergency launch abort system in August 2017 and a piloted demonstration mission in September 2017, according to John Mulholland, vice president of commercial programs at Boeing.
Boeing's contract, like SpaceX's, has options for NASA to order up to six "post-certification" crew rotation flights to the space station after the demo mission in September 2017. The space agency has ordered its first post-certification commercial crew flight from Boeing, a launch Mulholland said is expected in December 2017
....
Офтопик. Самолеты которые приведены в статье
Model 307 Stratoliner
(http://www.aviation-history.com/boeing/307-2b.jpg)

Имя Starliner ранее имел L-1649 Starliner (http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aliner/l1649.html)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Lockheed_L-1649_Constellation_TWA.jpg/1920px-Lockheed_L-1649_Constellation_TWA.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 05.09.2015 07:45:18
Цитатаhttp://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/04/boeing-names-its-commercial-spaceship-the-starliner/ 
...Starliner missions will carry four astronauts to the space station, and potentially cargo, on each trip. A fifth seat may be available for paying space tourists, Mulholland told reporters...
Starliner при миссиях на космическую станцию в каждом запуске будет нести четыре астронавта, и потенциально груз. Пятое место может быть доступно для платных космических туристов, сказал Малхолланд журналистам.

О пятом месте для платного туриста заявляли в сентябре 2014 года при заключений контракта с НАСА   http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/17/us-boeing-space-idUSKBN0HC2K020140917

Полный текст
Цитата http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/04/boeing-names-its-commercial-spaceship-the-starliner/
Enter the Starliner: Boeing names its commercial spaceship
Posted on September 4, 2015 by Stephen Clark (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?anno=2&depth=1&hl=ru&rurl=translate.google.ru&sl=en&tl=ru&u=http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/&usg=ALkJrhhlhalEIV_3wJOrxY-Cd5-dtn0MKA)
Boeing's commercial human-rated spaceship designed to ferry NASA astronauts to and from the International Space Station will be named the CST-100 Starliner, extending the company's naming theme to the final frontier, officials announced Friday.
The Boeing-operated crew capsule was known as simply the CST-100 before Friday, and managers said the craft will be ready to launch with human passengers by the end of 2017.
"Please welcome the CST-100 Starliner," announced Chris Ferguson, former NASA astronaut and Boeing's deputy manager of the CST-100 program.
The Starliner name puts the CST-100 in company with the Model 307 Stratoliner and 787 Dreamliner, Boeing products which ushered in new eras in passenger transport.
Boeing and SpaceX won contracts worth a combined $6.8 billion last year to develop commercially-owned spacecraft to take astronauts to orbit, ending NASA's sole reliance on Russia to rotate crews on the massive orbiting research complex.
"Boeing's innovation and dedication have brought us to the cusp of the next great victory in our commercial space program," said NASA Administrator Charles Bolden. "This is the time and place for which we've all been working long and hard ... It speaks especially to Boeing's energy, excitement and belief in the new system that they have been perfecting to take our astronauts, and really our hopes and dreams for the future, into space."
Boeing officials revealed the new name in a ceremony at the Kennedy Space Center.Technicians are assembling a structural test article for the Starliner spacecraft inside a former space shuttle hangar at the Florida spaceport, and construction of flight-ready versions of the capsule will begin next year.
"There's nothing that we do that's more insipring to the next generation of scientists, engineers and aerospace workers than what we do in human spaceflight," said Dennis Muilenburg, Boeing's president and CEO. "It is arguably the most challenging thing we do as well."
An uncrewed test flight of the CST-100 Starliner capsule is planned for May 2017 to the space station, followed by a test of the craft's emergency launch abort system in August 2017 and a piloted demonstration mission in September 2017, according to John Mulholland, vice president of commercial programs at Boeing.
Boeing's contract, like SpaceX's, has options for NASA to order up to six "post-certification" crew rotation flights to the space station after the demo mission in September 2017. The space agency has ordered its first post-certification commercial crew flight from Boeing, a launch Mulholland said is expected in December 2017.
NASA officials said it gave the green light to purchase the operational crew flight after Boeing completed the Starliner spacecraft's critical design review earlier this year. SpaceX has a similar design milestone planned at the end of 2015.
"I know we have a bright future ahead, and I can't wait to see our astronauts boarding a Boeing spacecraft bound for space," Bolden said.
The 2017 goal for commercial crew missions depends on how much funding NASA receives for the commercial spaceflight initiative in fiscal year 2016, which begins Oct. 1. Agency managers say they need more than $1.2 billion for the program to meet its financial commitments to Boeing and SpaceX next year.
But draft budgets passed by the Senate and the House would provide $900 million or $1 billion to the program, funding levels NASA says would create inevitable delays and put the 2017 schedule in jeopardy. A final budget bill has not been passed by both chambers, and lawmakers could vote on a temporary spending bill while they negotiate a budget plan for the rest of 2016.
"Right now, we've got a fight in Congress over funding," said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida."We'll get the money that it needs to make sure that we can get our American astronauts flying on American vehicles, and that's what we come together today to celebrate."
Boeing has relocated the CST-100 Starliner program office to KSC from Houston, bringing up to 550 jobs to Florida's Space Coast when the spacecraft ramps up to flight operations in 2017.
Engineers will put together Starliner crew capsules inside the former Orbiter Processing Facility bay No. 3 at the space center. The shuttle hangar, located to the northwest of KSC's iconic Vehicle Assembly Building, is now named the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility.
Space Florida lured Boeing to put its program headquarters and factory at KSC with a state-backed incentives package. Florida Gov. Rick Scott touted the deal in remarks at Friday's ceremony.
Starliner missions will carry four astronauts to the space station, and potentially cargo, on each trip. A fifth seat may be available for paying space tourists, Mulholland told reporters.
United Launch Alliance's Atlas 5 rocket launched from Cape Canaveral will haul the capsules into orbit on the way to the space station.
"You get a sense that at this point we are witnessing something we're all going to remember decades from now," Muilenburg said. "This is a point in history that reflects a new era in human spaceflight, and I'm excited about that."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Инфан от 05.09.2015 07:52:55
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Starliner при миссиях на космическую станцию в каждом запуске будет нести четыре астронавта, и потенциально груз.
Негусто.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр Ч. от 05.09.2015 07:58:51
https://youtu.be/m1pno_CKpAw (https://youtu.be/m1pno_CKpAw)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Олег Шляпин от 05.09.2015 09:11:09
Вопрос -  CST-100 Starliner можно в перспективе использовать в  лунных или марсианских программах?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 05.09.2015 09:47:34
ЦитатаОлег Шляпин пишет:
Вопрос - CST-100 Starliner можно в перспективе использовать в лунных или марсианских программах?
Без солнечных батарей? Нет, он задуман как чисто низкоорбитальное такси.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Олег Шляпин от 05.09.2015 09:49:40
Цитатаtestest пишет:
Без солнечных батарей? Нет, он задуман как чисто низкоорбитальное такси.
Ну его же можно модернизировать?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 05.09.2015 10:23:25
может и старый рендеринг
Boeing Unveils Starliner Processing Facility
Опубликовано: 4 сент. 2015 г.
https://youtu.be/hh5WaiZTK0k (https://youtu.be/hh5WaiZTK0k)
https://youtu.be/hh5WaiZTK0k
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 05.09.2015 21:52:01
времени еще много, еще и перенесут, но какая красная дата календаря - 1 Мая....
Цитата http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/missions/commercial/boeing-renames-cst-100-the-starliner/
BOEING RENAMES CST-100 - THE STARLINER
... Boeing's Bill Mulholland noted that the spacecraft was coming together on site for a planned flight currently slated for the 2017-2018 time frame. Starliner's upper and lower dome, tunnel, hatch, and service module were in a room adjacent to the presentation. If everything goes according to plan, the first Starliner will be powered up on May 1......
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: KR от 07.09.2015 10:35:52
как автобус значит :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 08.09.2015 21:02:03
что-то непонятно с 5 местом если корабль летает раз в год, а другой экипаж привозит 4-х местный Дракон а нет, через несколько дней в новой презентации Дракон тоже стал с 5-тю креслами.
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic9135/message1413160/#message1413160
ЦитатаШамс пишет:
Сейчас обсуждается такой вариант. С 2019 и далее каждый год - 2 Союза и 2 американских корабля. На всех кораблях прямая ротация, т.е. меняемый корабль садится после прихода на МКС следующего.
про 5 место еще есть тут
 http://www.americaspace.com/?p=61840
 http://www.americaspace.com/?p=86045
корабль летает в автоматическом режиме, пилот как бы не обязателен... максимум лета до станции 48 часов. Планируется 6-8 часов до станции и шесть от стыковки до приземления.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 08.09.2015 17:13:20
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
что-то непонятно с 5 местом
они сделали раму на 5 кресел. пассажирские можно поменять на полезный груз. Летать будут 4 чела + груз вместо пятого.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 08.09.2015 21:41:13
Джентльмены, извиняюсь за невежество, но я так и не понял: зачем американские пилотируемые корабли стыковать "по союзовски"? Почему нельзя как до сих пор - манипулятором?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 08.09.2015 21:52:01
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
что-то непонятно с 5 местом
они сделали раму на 5 кресел. пассажирские можно поменять на полезный груз. Летать будут 4 чела + груз вместо пятого.
в приведенном тексте пишут о возможности на 7 человек, идею понял.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: uncle_jew от 08.09.2015 23:14:36
ЦитатаСтарый пишет:
Джентльмены, извиняюсь за невежество, но я так и не понял: зачем американские пилотируемые корабли стыковать "по союзовски"? Почему нельзя как до сих пор - манипулятором?
Безопаснее же (плюс можно пристыковаться даже к пустой станции, на которой нет экипажа). Иначе при поломке манипулятора америка потеряет доступ к МКС.

С манипулятором появляются дополнительные возможные отказы - например, что делать, если манипулятор сдохнет, когда на нём "висит" корабль с людьми? Ни пристыковаться, ни приземлиться...

Для грузовиков от манипулятора есть дополнительное преимущество - возможность возить крупногабаритные грузы за счёт огромного сечения люка CBM. Для людей - одни минусы.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: G_old_Truman от 08.09.2015 20:18:08
Ловить людей "багром"??
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 08.09.2015 22:19:07
ЦитатаG_old_Truman пишет:
Ловить людей "багром"??
Багор вроде такой медленный что не сможет даже поцарапать.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 08.09.2015 22:26:08
Цитатаuncle_jew пишет: 
Безопаснее же (плюс можно пристыковаться даже к пустой станции, на которой нет экипажа). Иначе при поломке манипулятора америка потеряет доступ к МКС.
Убедительно. Спасибо. 

ЦитатаС манипулятором появляются дополнительные возможные отказы - например, что делать, если манипулятор сдохнет, когда на нём "висит" корабль с людьми? Ни пристыковаться, ни приземлиться...
Ну это ерунда. Отстрелить захват корабля и домой. 

ЦитатаДля грузовиков от манипулятора есть дополнительное преимущество - возможность возить крупногабаритные грузы за счёт огромного сечения люка CBM. Для людей - одни минусы.
А если манипулятор сломается и грузовики не смогут стыковаться - Америка не потеряет МКС? Хотя вероятно в этом случае есть запас времени чтобы его починить.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: uncle_jew от 09.09.2015 06:13:14
ЦитатаА если манипулятор сломается и грузовики не смогут стыковаться - Америка не потеряет МКС? 
Я думаю, грузы для жизнеобеспечения при надобности можно возить и на пилотируемых кораблях - вроде, там нет ничего крупногабаритного, что не пролезало бы в люк.

Правда, если манипулятор сломается и для его ремонта понадобится не пролезающая в люк запчасть - будет проблема  :)  Но эта проблема существует и сегодня.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий Инфан от 09.09.2015 06:43:28
Цитатаuncle_jew пишет: 
Безопаснее же (плюс можно пристыковаться даже к пустой станции, на которой нет экипажа). Иначе при поломке манипулятора америка потеряет доступ к МКС.
Надо иметь два манипулятора.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.09.2015 02:55:03
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
что-то непонятно с 5 местом
они сделали раму на 5 кресел. пассажирские можно поменять на полезный груз. Летать будут 4 чела + груз вместо пятого.
в приведенном тексте пишут о возможности на 7 человек, идею понял.
для 7 человек кресла приделывают к амортизирующей раме на  консолях вместо стандартного груза. ИМХО сама рама под креслами (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/57249)имеет проемы. Кресло можно снять и поставить туда компактный груз.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 09.09.2015 07:59:29
ЦитатаSFN пишет:
ИМХО сама рама под креслами имеет проемы. Кресло можно снять и поставить туда компактный груз.
Спасибо.
Если кому интересно - фото 2013 года  (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32438.40) 
или (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32438.msg1423049#msg1423049)
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/57255)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 09.09.2015 04:18:05
Да, не балует Боинг презенташками  ;)  
Вот из презенташки про подготовку КК.
Нижняя скорлупка с голой амортизирующей рамой. видны "рога"для кресел №6-7.
 (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/57256)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 09.09.2015 08:51:49
совместил  ;)  

(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/57257)

а пятое место это какое?



(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/57531)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 13.09.2015 11:54:25
CST-100 все время не везет. В популярных СМИ он не признан частным КК и мест у него все время 4, а никак не 7. ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Чебурашка от 14.09.2015 20:31:27
Эти презентации уже в печёнках сидят. PowerPoint-космонавтика.  :evil:

Если верить презенташкам 10-летней давности, уже Orion должен был летать к МКС...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 14.09.2015 16:49:07
Зачем презентации 10летней давности? В свеженьких такой цирроз.
Создается впечатление, что все издания принадлежат одному человеку.  :| Хотя можно просто экспертов-обозревателей по-рыбацки прикормить.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 14.09.2015 16:54:09
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
совместил  ;)  

 (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/57477)

а пятое место это какое?
Скорее всего, самое дальнее от бокового люка
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 16.09.2015 12:03:11
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/15/build-up-of-crew-access-tower-begins-at-atlas-5-pad/
ЦитатаBuild-up of crew access tower begins at Atlas 5 pad       
Posted on September 15, 2015 by Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)    
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The first tier of the Atlas 5's crew access tower was transferred to the launch pad Sept. 9 and hoisted into position Tuesday. Credit: NASA/Dmitrios Gerondidakis
 
A new fixture on the Cape Canaveral skyline began rising Tuesday, with the placement of the first of seven segments for a 200-foot-tall crew access tower at the Atlas 5 rocket's seaside launch pad for astronauts boarding Boeing's new commercial CST-100 Starliner spaceship.
The first two tiers of the tower transferred to the Atlas 5 rocket's Complex 41 launch pad Sept. 9, and a giant crane at the launch site positioned the first segment over the structure's concrete foundation Tuesday, according to a United Launch Alliance spokesperson.
Construction crews assembled the seven tiers at a nearby worksite beginning earlier this year, and now attention turns to stacking the tower at Complex 41.
Astronauts flying into space aboard the CST-100 Starliner crew capsule will ride an elevator up the tower and then crawl into the spacecraft through a climate-controlled enclosure called a white room.
Boeing is developing the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft under contract to NASA, which awarded the aerospace giant an agreement worth up to $4.2 billion to finish certification of the crew capsule and fly up to six full-up crew ferry flights between Earth and the International Space Station.
NASA signed a similar contract SpaceX worth up to $2.6 billion for the Crew Dragon spaceship outfitted for humans. SpaceX's crewed flights will take off on Falcon 9 rockets a decommissioned space shuttle launch pad currently being modified for the purpose.
The commercial crew program will end U.S. reliance on Russian Soyuz spacecraft to carry crews to the space station.
Engineers are using down time in the Atlas 5 rocket's busy launch manifest to build up the crew access tower at Complex 41, according to Howard Biegler, head of human launch services at ULA, the Boeing-Lockheed Martin joint venture which builds and operates the Atlas 5.
"All seven tiers, which make up the center core of the crew access tower, are fully constructed," Biegler said in an interview with Spaceflight Now. "The towers are fully outfitted. We've got stairwells, all the piping, fire extinguishers, elevator shafts, you name it."
Construction crews at the launch pad, situated a half-mile fr om the Atlantic shoreline, have built up a crane to lift the tower segments.
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Artist's concept of the Atlas 5 rocket, CST-100 Starliner and the crew access tower. Credit: NASA
 
The launch pad will not have a permanent tower until the crew access structure is erected. The Atlas 5 rocket is built up on a mobile platform inside a nearby vertical integration facility, then rolled out to the launch pad the day before liftoff.
Biegler said the plan calls for all seven segments to be hoisted by the time of the Atlas 5's scheduled launch of a new GPS navigation satellite Oct. 30. Some of the tiers will go up before the Atlas 5's next mission, which is set for Oct. 2 with a Mexican communications satellite, and ground teams will add the rest before the Oct. 30 launch.
"After our GPS launch at the end of October, all of our outboard steel which makes the top part of the tower for storing the crew access arm, emergency egress and other equipment will be added," Biegler said.
The stacking of the crew access tower comes after teams poured 300 cubic yards of concrete for the structure's foundation just to the northwest of where the Atlas 5's mobile launch platform parks over the launch pad's flame trench, according to John Mulholland, vice president and program manager for Boeing's commercial crew program.
While workers poured the foundation, a team nearby constructed the seven 28-foot-tall 20-by-20 foot sections for the crew access tower.
Biegler said the structure will be completed by January.
"Then we'll start running cables and outfitting it," he said.
A 42-foot-long crew access arm is taking shape at a construction yard in nearby Oak Hill, Florida. The appendage will connect the tower to the CST-100 Starliner mounted atop the Atlas 5 rocket, allowing astronauts to board the capsule in the final hours of the countdown.
Located about 172 feet up the 20-story tower, the arm will swing away after ground teams close the Starliner hatch, clearing the way for liftoff.
"We've got the torque tube, the structural arm, the white room and the environmental seal, and the drive system, which we call the hydraulic drive system, will be integrated on a test stand and we'll run it through its paces," Biegler said. "That's a critical path item. When we bring it out to Complex 41 in the June timeframe of next year, we want to know exactly wh ere it's got to be positioned on the tower, and know that everything works and the timing works perfectly."
ULA and Boeing managers are working out the details of how to load the astronauts into the CST-100 Starliner.
Engineers evaluated Apollo- and shuttle-era white rooms, including artifacts on display at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, when designing the Starliner access arm.
"We've got an environmental seal on the end of it that is 7 feet by 5 feet by 5 feet on the end of (the white room)," Biegler said. "If you take that into consideration, we're actually bigger than shuttle (white room), but for the most part, it's comparable."
A closeout crew similar to the team that strapped astronauts into the space shuttle will be at the launch pad to help crew members into the CST-100 Starliner. The ground team will likely be a mix of ULA, Boeing and NASA personnel, but the exact makeup has not been finalized, according to Biegler.
"We're going to have as few people out there as we need to make it efficent because we want to be able to get this done in a quick manner, and get them out," Biegler said.
"It's also pretty hazardous," said Tony Taliancich, director of ULA's east coast operations. "We don't want to take any more risks than we need to take. We'll have a fully loaded vehicle with hydrogen and oxygen, and be ready to launch at that point."
The Atlas 5 launch team will fuel the rocket with propellants before the astronauts arrive at the pad. A built-in hold at T-minus 4 minutes, which usually lasts a few minutes, will be extended up to three hours to give the crew time to get into the capsule.
"In our normal process, we're within four minutes of launching at that point, so we're just waiting for the astronauts to get on-board," Taliancich said.
The CST-100 Starliner can carry up to seven astronauts, but the capsule's standard mission will likely include a crew of four plus supplies for the space station.
Another feature of the crew access tower will be a slidewire escape system similar to the emergency egress baskets used at the space shuttle launch pads.
Boeing's capsule will fly on a version of the Atlas 5 with two solid rocket boosters, a dual-engine Centaur upper stage, and an emergency detection system to detect faults in flight and trigger an abort, if necessary.
Officials said all of the crew access tower construction should be completed by late 2016, in time for the first uncrewed CST-100 Starliner test flight scheduled for May 2017, and the first human demonstration mission in September 2017.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 16.09.2015 09:39:18
а разве у пилотирумого атласа будут ТТУ?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 16.09.2015 12:58:39
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
а разве у пилотирумого атласа будут ТТУ?
Конечно
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 16.09.2015 15:30:16
я почему-то решил, что они ТТУ не будут использовать. А дельта для него в хэви варианте или тоже с ТТУ?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Grus от 16.09.2015 19:47:02
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
я почему-то решил, что они ТТУ не будут использовать. А дельта для него в хэви варианте или тоже с ТТУ?
Масса CST-100 более 13 т - Delta Medium+ 5.4 - четыре боковика.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 16.09.2015 17:05:50
спасибо
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 22.10.2015 15:42:57
ЦитатаBoeing Defense ‏@BoeingDefense  (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) Oct 20 (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/656492785806127104)

New @InsideKSC (https://twitter.com/InsideKSC) skyline: #CST100 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CST100?src=hash) #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) access tower complete w/7 tiers stacked.
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/58389) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/58388) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/58390)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 22.10.2015 22:15:33
Строят башню для американских Героев? Это сугубо. Значит полетит.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.11.2015 11:46:03
https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/661664951594033160
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/581142401244262400/GRx8SDqE_bigger.jpg) NASA Commercial Crew ‏@Commercial_Crew  (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew)  
See what it took for @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) and @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) to build a tower for crew:http://go.nasa.gov/1Q9ILXN  (https://t.co/JBZlPaqIaG) #LaunchAmerica (https://twitter.com/hashtag/LaunchAmerica?src=hash)
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  14:03 - 3 нояб. 2015 г.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.11.2015 11:50:46
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/new-crew-access-tower-construction-progresses-in-cape-canaveral
ЦитатаNov. 3, 2015
New Crew Access Tower Construction Progresses in Cape Canaveral  
 
By Steven Siceloff,
 NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Fla.

It took only 35 days to build the main column of a new fixture to the skyline along the Florida Space Coast. The 200-foot-tall Crew Access Tower at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida will meet the unique needs of astronauts and ground crews at Space Launch Complex 41, or SLC-41, where Boeing will launch its CST-100 Starliner spacecraft on Atlas V rockets operated by United Launch Alliance, also known as ULA.
"We spent a lot of time with conceptual designs and with the human elements, which is very important for a project of this nature," said Howard Biegler, ULA's Launch Operations lead for Human Launch Services. "Building a structure is one thing, but building it so that it's useful, that it provides a safe environment for the people who are going to be called to use this system is the hard part."
The structure features wider, more open areas than NASA's previous crew access towers, providing more room and comfort for astronauts who will walk around the area in pressure suits and possibly wearing helmets, and in emergency cases, walk through walls of water fr om fire suppression sprinklers. An escape system for the ground support teams and flight crews will be added to quickly move people from the top of the tower to the safety of an evacuation vehicle in less than a minute.
The tower location is unique, as well. Since 1968, all astronauts launched from the United States have flown exclusively from Launch Pads 39A and B at NASA's adjacent Kennedy Space Center.
Construction at the pad began in September when the first of seven steel tiers was trucked from four miles away wh ere it was built and then placed atop a strengthened concrete foundation at SLC-41.
Built with many of the features already in place such as stairways, cable trays and blast shielding, each tier was designed to fit atop the other perfectly to reduce construction time at the pad. That's because ULA kept the pad operational so it could continue to launch Atlas V missions in between stages of tower construction.
"We have certainly changed the landscape out here," Biegler said. "The day the first tier physically made contact with the concrete and was bolted up brought a new level of reality to the project."
More work is ahead to complete the tower, but the main column stands in place as a herald for the next generation of human spaceflight in America. Steel sections branching off the main column will be in place by mid-January then the tower will be fitted with elevators, data lines and other elements. The tower's steel frame will weigh about 966,000 pounds when it's completed in fall 2016.
In late October, the structure's crew access arm was connected to the White Room, which will serve as the final corridor astronauts will pass through as they enter the Starliner spacecraft standing atop the Atlas V. The two components will be tested together extensively off-site before they are trucked to the launch complex and installed next summer.
Boeing anticipates launching the first flight test of its Starliner spacecraft carrying astronauts in 2017, but will use the tower before that time in the preparation for an earlier flight test without a crew aboard. 
"It takes a lot of people working hard together to get any spacecraft into orbit successfully, and that's doubly true for a new spacecraft being built for humans," said Mike Burghardt, director of Launch Segment Integration for Boeing's Commercial Crew Program. "The Starliner will feature modern, high reliability components to significantly increase crew safety and we back that up with robust launch system, including this Crew Access Tower."
All the work is adding to the feeling that a new dawn of spaceflight is nearing as NASA's Commercial Crew Program and its partners Boeing and SpaceX continue development on systems that will carry up to four astronauts at a time to the International Space Station. With commercial spacecraft transportation, NASA plans to add an additional crew member to the station, effectively doubling the crew time dedicated to research on the orbiting laboratory.
While Boeing and SpaceX focus on transportation opportunities in low-Earth orbit, NASA is moving ahead with its Space Launch System and Orion spacecraft that will take off from Kennedy's Launch Pad 39B to carry out deep-space exploration missions that will advance the agency's journey to Mars.
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Workers guide the roof element to the top of the Crew Access Tower main column.
Credits: NASA/Kim Shiflett

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Workers at a construction yard lift and connect the White Room to the end of the Crew Access Arm that will be installed next year on the Crew Access Tower.
   
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An artists concept of Space Launch Complex 41 on launch day showing the Crew Access Tower in place beside a Boeing CST-100 Starliner spacecraft and United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket.
Credits: Courtesy Boeing

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Watch the main column of the Crew Access Tower rise at SLC-41.
Credits: NASA
 
Last Updated: Nov. 4, 2015
Editor: Steven Siceloff
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 11.11.2015 13:14:38
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/8-Boeing_Commerical_Crew.pdf
 (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/58973) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/58972) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/58971)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Oleg от 11.11.2015 17:00:20
RD-180 Engine - 1 шт )
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 02.12.2015 13:09:13
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59466) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59467) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59468)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/23351024062/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 02.12.2015 12:17:32
Во. Дело идет. Из чего же корпус? Люминий? )))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 02.12.2015 18:27:36
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59483)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 03.12.2015 13:21:21
ЦитатаOleg пишет:
RD-180 Engine - 1 шт )
а скока?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 03.12.2015 13:28:14
ЦитатаAstro Cat пишет:
Во. Дело идет. Из чего же корпус? Люминий? )))
aluminium and lithium alloy
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.12.2015 02:09:13
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/12/03/photos-nightfall-at-cape-canaveral-on-eve-of-atlas-launch-to-station/
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 04.12.2015 07:26:22
Наверное тему перепутали...
Хотя на Атлас посмотрели ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 04.12.2015 09:18:42
Башню же хорошо видно.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 06.12.2015 10:41:58
Цитата
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Наверное тему перепутали...
Хотя на Атлас посмотрели  ;)
Lanista пишет:
Башню же хорошо видно.
С разных ракурсов.;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 14.12.2015 18:11:51
ЦитатаThe White Room and Crew Access Arm built for use at Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station stands at a construction yard where it will undergo testing before attachment to the Crew Access Tower already in place at SLC-41.
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59782)

ЦитатаCommercial Crew astronauts Suni Williams, Doug Hurley, Bob Behnken and Eric Boe listen to a detailed briefing about the White Room and Crew Access Arm structure they are standing in during a tour of the construction yard near Kennedy Space Center.
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59783)

ЦитатаCommercial Crew astronaut Suni Williams signs a 15-foot-long, 650-pound beam before it was lifted to the top of the Crew Access Tower during a "topping off" ceremony Dec. 10, 2015, at Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59784)

ЦитатаA crane lifts a 15-foot-long, 650-pound beam to the top of the Crew Access Tower during a "topping off" ceremony Dec. 10, 2015, at Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/59785)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 20.12.2015 21:24:16
Цитата https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-orders-second-boeing-crew-mission-to-international-space-station
Dec. 19, 2015
NASA Orders Second Boeing Crew Mission to International Space Station

NASA took an important step Friday to establish regular crew missions that will launch from the United States to the International Space Station with the order of its second post-certification mission from Boeing Space Exploration of Houston.

"Once certified by NASA, the Boeing CST-100 Starliner and SpaceX Crew Dragon each will be capable of two crew launches to the station per year," said Kathy Lueders, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program. "Placing orders for those missions now really sets us up for a sustainable future aboard the International Space Station."

This is the third in a series of four guaranteed orders NASA will make under the Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contracts. Boeing and SpaceX received their first orders in May (http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/commercial-crew-milestones-met-partners-on-track-for-missions-in-2017) and November (http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-orders-spacex-crew-mission-to-international-space-station), respectively, and have started planning for, building and procuring the necessary hardware and assets to carry out their first missions for the agency. NASA will identify at a later time which company will fly a mission to the station first.

Boeing met the criteria for NASA to award the company its second mission with the successful completion of interim developmental milestones and internal design reviews for its Starliner spacecraft, United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket and associated ground system.

Boeing's Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility (http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/grand-opening-of-the-c3pf) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida is seeing the buildup of the Starliner structural test article, and nearby, the main column of the crew access tower (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2015/12/10/astronauts-celebrate-with-builders-topping-of-crew-access-tower/) is in place at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Space Launch Complex 41. Flight trainers are nearing completion in Boeing's St. Louis facility and rocket parts are starting to come together in Huntsville, Alabama.  

"As our company begins its second century, our Starliner program continues Boeing's tradition of space industry innovation with commercial service to the space station," said John Mulholland, vice president and manager of Boeing's commercial crew program. "We value NASA's confidence in the Starliner system to keep their crews safe."

Commercial crew missions to the space station will restore America's human spaceflight capabilities and increase the amount of time dedicated to scientific research off the Earth, for the Earth and beyond. A standard commercial crew mission to the station will carry up to four NASA or NASA-sponsored crew members and about 220 pounds of pressurized cargo. The spacecraft will remain at the station for up to 210 days, available as an emergency lifeboat during that time.

"With the commercial crew vehicles from Boeing and SpaceX, we will soon add a seventh crew member to International Space Station missions, which will significantly increase the amount of crew time to conduct research," said Kirk Shireman, manager for the International Space Station Program. "This will enable NASA and our partners to ramp up the important research being done every day for the benefit of all humanity."

Orders under the CCtCap contracts are made two to three years prior to actual mission dates in order to provide time for each company to manufacture and assemble the launch vehicle and spacecraft. Each company also must successfully complete a certification process before NASA will give the final approval for flight. Each provider's contract includes a minimum of two and a maximum potential of six missions.

NASA's Commercial Crew Program manages the CCtCap contracts and is working with each company to ensure commercial transportation system designs and post-certification missions will meet the agency's safety requirements. Activities that follow the award of missions include a series of mission-related reviews and approvals leading to launch. The program also will be involved in all operational phases of missions to ensure crew safety.
"советские газеты"...
Цитата http://ria.ru/science/20151219/1344922826.html
НАСА разместило заявку на вторую пилотируемую миссию Boeing к МКС
07:02 19.12.2015
ВАШИНГТОН, 19 дек - РИА Новости. НАСА в пятницу разместило заявку на совершение второго пилотируемого полета к Международной космической станции (МКС) американской компанией Boeing, сообщило ведомство.
"После получения сертификатов НАСА, каждый из кораблей Boeing CST-100 Starliner и Crew Dragon должен будет совершить два запуска к станции в год. Размещение сейчас заявки на эти миссии является для нас курсом на устойчивое будущее на борту космической станции", -- заявила менеджер пилотируемой программы НАСА Кати Лейдерс.
В НАСА размещение заявки на вторую пилотируемую миссию Boeing к МКС, после получения необходимых сертификатов, считают "важным шагом".
Аналогичный шаг в отношении компании Boeing был предпринят ранее в мае, затем в ноябре НАСА разместило заказ на выполнение первого пилотируемого полета компанией SpaceX. Даты предстоящих полетов и то, какая из компаний совершит пилотируемую миссию первой, будет определено позднее.
По контракту с НАСА Boeing ведет строительство корабля CST-100 Starliner, SpaceX разрабатывает пилотируемый корабль на основе грузовой капсулы Dragon.
Согласно условиям контракта, заказ на совершение миссии должен быть размещен НАСА "за два-три года" до фактического полета, чтобы у каждой из компании был достаточный запас времени для производства и сборки как ракеты-носителя, так и самого корабля.
Первый тестовый полет нового корабля, который должен вернуть США возможность собственных запусков экипажей на МКС, должен состояться в конце 2017 года. Каждая из компаний обязалась выполнить до шести пилотируемых полетов.
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 NASA ‏@NASA 18 дек.
We ordered 2nd @BoeingDefense mission to fly astronauts to @Space_Station: http://go.nasa.gov/22eBhrI @Commercial_Crew
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 NASA Commercial Crew ‏@Commercial_Crew 18 дек.
2nd @BoeingDefense mission ordered, now 7 @Commercial_crew flights in flow! #LaunchAmerica http://go.nasa.gov/1IZhxSH
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NASA Orders Second Operational Mission for Boeing's Starliner
Posted on December 18, 2015 at 4:11 pm by Steven Siceloff.
NASA's Commercial Crew Program placed an order for the second operational mission to carry astronauts to the International Space Station aboard Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft. The order means that seven vehicles are now in different levels of planning for Commercial Crew flight tests and operational missions by Boeing and by SpaceX, which also is developing the Crew Dragon spacecraft for human-rated missions to the space station. The seven missions in process are:

2 uncrewed flight tests, one for each company,
2 crewed flight tests, one each,
3 operational missions ordered to date.

The order was placed now because of the long lead time to build a spacecraft, test it and process it for launch.

"Once certified by NASA, the Boeing CST-100 Starliner and SpaceX Crew Dragon each will be capable of at least two crew launches to the station per year," said Kathy Lueders, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program. "Placing orders for those missions now really sets us up for a sustainable future aboard the International Space Station."

This is the third in a series of four guaranteed orders NASA will make under the Commercial Crew Transportation Capability contracts known as CCtCap. Boeing and SpaceX received their first orders in May and November, respectively, and have started planning for, building and procuring the necessary hardware and assets to carry out their first missions for the agency. NASA will identify at a later time which company will fly a mission to the station first. There are many more details to this story and you can read them at http://go.nasa.gov/1IZhxSH
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 20.12.2015 18:34:23
а тетка-то у них вполне себе серьезная
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 31.12.2015 18:59:34
Компания «Боинг» строит первый экземпляр новой космической капсулы (http://astronews.ru/cgi-bin/mng.cgi?page=news&news=8080)
ЦитатаСтроительство первого экземпляра космического корабля CST-100 Starliner компании «Боинг» идет полным ходом в ангаре под названием Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility (C3PF) компании - новом помещении для сборки космических аппаратов, расположенном в Космическом центре Кеннеди НАСА.

Космические корабли Boeing Starliners должны менее чем за два года решить проблему доставки астронавтов НАСА на низкую околоземную орбиту и к Международной космической станции, при их совместном с использовании с ракетами-носителями «Атлас V», запуски которых планируется производить с атлантического побережья штата Флорида, США.

Эта пробная версия космического корабля Starliner будет использована для тестирования структуры и сыграет ключевую роль при оценке пригодности используемых методов производства и обработки материалов и деталей для всех последующих рабочих экземпляров этих космических кораблей - которые в конечном счете доставят команду из четырех астронавтов на борт космической станции в 2017 г.

Сборку этого пробного экземпляра (structural test article, STA) космического корабля Starliner в настоящее время производят внутри ангара C3PF компании с использованием тех же методов и производственных процессов, которые будут использованы при создании рабочих экземпляров капсулы. К настоящему времени завершена сборка двух куполов, которые будут составлять основу космической капсулы, к этим куполам бессварочными методами прикреплен туннель для входа экипажа на борт корабля.

После того как сборка STA будет завершена, этот экземпляр корабля отправится в Калифорнию для проведения испытаний на критические напряжения, которые должны подтвердить основные возможности космического аппарата.

В сентябре 2014 г. НАСА и компания «Боинг» заключили контракт на сумму 4,2 миллиарда USD, по которому эта авиакосмическая компания обязуется построить «космическое такси» CST-100 Starliner в рамках программы Commercial Crew Transportation Capability американского космического агентства.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 01.01.2016 23:37:42
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
а тетка-то у них вполне себе серьезная
угу. прям дядька
:)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 02.01.2016 02:29:35
Мне вот интересно какие перспективы у CT-100 после 2020-го года. Ну будут они вместе с Драконом летать на МКС после 2020-го года или даже до 2030-го (если продлят эксплуатацию станции). А что потом?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Михаил Вандерер от 02.01.2016 04:14:49
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Мне вот интересно какие перспективы у CT-100 после 2020-го года.
ИМХО конечно. Возможно наса объявит очередной коммерческий конкурс после 2020года на создание орбитальной пилотируемой станции, будут "частники" строить и эксплуатировать. Соответственно будет работа пилотируемым кораблям и грузовикам.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Nilk от 02.01.2016 05:40:38
А чего там строить? Запустят бочку а-ля Цигнус и будут к ней стыковаться, ну может Бигелоу с боку надувашку приделает ещё, ну и всё.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 02.01.2016 11:42:50
ЦитатаВандерер пишет:
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Мне вот интересно какие перспективы у CT-100 после 2020-го года.
ИМХО конечно. Возможно наса объявит очередной коммерческий конкурс после 2020года на создание орбитальной пилотируемой станции, будут "частники" строить и эксплуатировать. Соответственно будет работа пилотируемым кораблям и грузовикам.
лично я вижу перспективы только с точки зрения туризма. В остальном просто не понимаю куда и как часто они будут на СТ-100 летать. Но для туризма нужно создавать орбитальную туристическую станцию после 2020-го года. А вот если кризис и бюджетные расходы урежут, а частники не пойдут дальше в космос, что тогда делать?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 02.01.2016 12:04:48
На китайскую станцию могут раз у них оттепель в космическом сотрудничестве и китайцы приглашают другие страны.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 02.01.2016 13:19:17
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
На китайскую станцию могут раз у них оттепель в космическом сотрудничестве и китайцы приглашают другие страны.
Если китайцы и будут летать типа как Интеркосмос, а они скорее всего будут, то с Нигерией, АСЕАН и другими развивающимися странами. ВОзможно конечно будет кооперация между крупными частными американскими компаниями по созданию совместной новой станции между Боингом, Бигелоу, Орбиталом и другими. Будут туда туристов возить.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 02.01.2016 15:11:48
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Если китайцы и будут летать типа как Интеркосмос, а они скорее всего будут, то с Нигерией, АСЕАН и другими развивающимися странами
В опровержении этих слов писали про ЕКА и Китай....
И кажется Китай рассматривает возможность полетов к их станции кораблей других стран, а это уже не Интеркосмос, а уровень Мир-Шаттл, МКС.

Хотя куда и как часто будут летать вопрос хороший. Могут запускать Дримлайнер по контракту с НАСА и два раза в год. Ведь нужен национальный корабль...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 02.01.2016 18:45:29
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
В опровержении этих слов писали про ЕКА и Китай....
И кажется Китай рассматривает возможность полетов к их станции кораблей других стран, а это уже не Интеркосмос, а уровень Мир-Шаттл, МКС.

Хотя куда и как часто будут летать вопрос хороший. Могут запускать Дримлайнер по контракту с НАСА и два раза в год. Ведь нужен национальный корабль...
У китайцев это чисто политический проект как Интеркосмос. Хотя в космонавтике вообще много всего политического. Китайцы будут летать с теми развивающимися странами, кто еще не был в космосе. Это Нигерия Индонезия, Филиппины, Бангладеш, и другие. Могут активно использовать наработки русских и привлечь их. Американцам это не интересно, так как с данной программы Китая они получить ничего не смогут, а вот китайцам свой опыт передавать особенно не хочеться. Запускать 2 раза в год по контракту с НАСА могут, но нужно не забывать что есть еще как минимум Дракон (конкурент), а есть еще Орион, (хоть и для дальнего космоса). Слишком много конкурентов. Предположим что до 2024-го года он будет летать так же как Дракон 2 раза в год, и возможно даже после. Но что будет после 2030-го если не будет новой станции? К томуже стоит не забывать, что НАСА может сделать приоритет в пользу одного из двух кораблей - Дракон и СТ-100. К томуже все функции с успехом мог бы осуществлять Орион. Одновременно 3 аппарата с жиру бесятся.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 02.01.2016 22:36:23
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Но что будет после 2030-го если не будет новой станции? К томуже стоит не забывать, что НАСА может сделать приоритет в пользу одного из двух кораблей - Дракон и СТ-100. К томуже все функции с успехом мог бы осуществлять Орион. Одновременно 3 аппарата с жиру бесятся.
До 2030 года надо еще дожить, лет через 10 будет понятно, куда можно летать.
Смешивать в одну кучу Орион и Дрэгон со Стралайнером не стоит. Первый делается под различные, пока не совсем ясные задачи (Лагранж, астероиды...). Вторые - под сугубо утилитарную задачу. Избавить НАСА от зависимости от РФ в вопросах доставки астронавтов на/с МКС. Выделяет НАСА деньги именно под это, надеяь, после отказа от сотрудничества с РФ, получить политическую (несомненно) и финансовую (вероятно) выгоду. В этой связи НАСА не особо волнует судьба этих кораблей после завершения программы МКС. Но если будет политический заказ на новую, чисто американскую, или американо-европейскую, станцию - одной головной болью у НАСА будет меньше. Готовые и обкатанные пилотируемые корабли к тому времени иже будут.
Насчет "с жиру бесятся" - отнюдь. К НОО будут летать всего 2 корабля. Разных производителей, на разных РН. То есть проблема с компонентами (сам корабль, ракета-носитель и т.д.) не вызовут больших проблем, так как останется второй производитель со своим набором. Правильное решение. 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 02.01.2016 23:41:13
Я считаю, что все задачи мог бы выполнять один корабль - Орион. Старлайнер и Дрэгон с жиру бесятся. Думаю что в районе 2020-го выберут какой-нибудь один.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 03.01.2016 01:26:18
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Я считаю, что все задачи мог бы выполнять один корабль - Орион. Старлайнер и Дрэгон с жиру бесятся. Думаю что в районе 2020-го выберут какой-нибудь один.
В теории, и с дополнительными опциями - мог бы. Орион мог бы летать к МКС. Два остальных выше НОО - вряд ли. Но зачем это НАСА, если проще иметь несколько кораблей?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 03.01.2016 02:42:13
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Но зачем это НАСА, если проще иметь несколько кораблей?
Я не понимаю чем проще? Все операции мог бы выполнять один Орион и это было бы полюбому дешевле чем 2 корабля. А здесь их три.  Полагаю, что в будущем или от Драгона или от Старлайнера придется отказаться. За счет 2-ух кораблей возрастают общие эксплуатационные расходы и это становится совершенно не дешевле. Кто то из них двоих должен проиграть. А возможно после МКС Боинг применит Старлайнер под свои нужды а Маск Драгон под свои и они медленно разойдутся
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 03.01.2016 09:42:50
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Я считаю, что все задачи мог бы выполнять один корабль - Орион. Старлайнер и Дрэгон с жиру бесятся. Думаю что в районе 2020-го выберут какой-нибудь один.
Ну предлагайте РН для этого Ориона, посмотрим что будет дешевле. И для Старлайнера...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 03.01.2016 10:12:09
Один корабль - это монополизм, задирание цен бесконтрольное. Конкуренция удешевляет.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 03.01.2016 12:30:45
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Я не понимаю чем проще? Все операции мог бы выполнять один Орион и это было бы полюбому дешевле чем 2 корабля. А здесь их три. Полагаю, что в будущем или от Драгона или от Старлайнера придется отказаться. За счет 2-ух кораблей возрастают общие эксплуатационные расходы и это становится совершенно не дешевле. Кто то из них двоих должен проиграть. А возможно после МКС Боинг применит Старлайнер под свои нужды а Маск Драгон под свои и они медленно разойдутся
Проще тем, что наличие двух кораблей для НОО, к тому же не производимыми напрямую НАСА, а покупаемыми под конктреные задачи, развязывает руки и облегчает планирование. НАСА будет платить за полеты на этих кораблях (покупать полет корабля) только до тех пор, прока считает это нужным. В принципе, как сейчас происходит с "Союзом" - только с иными политическими последствиями и без финансовой поддержки "наименее возможного союзника". Деньги будут оставаться в США. Что будет с кораблями и производством после завершения потребности НАСА в них - головная боль Боинга и СпейсХ. Наличие сразу двух "извозчиков" снижает риски как в случае аварии одного из кораблей, так и в случае финансовых проблем у одного из производителей. Всегда остается второй. При этом да, и накручивать цену особо не получится.
Путать же с этими кораблями "Орион" не стоит. На сегодня он разрабатывается очень неспешно (в том числе для экономии средств). И разрабатывается одновременно с РН именно для дальних полетов. Если вы не забыли, первый пилотируемый полет намечен на 2021 год, и, возможно, еще не раз сдвинется. То есть назначение этих кораблей, сроки создания, источники финансирования - совершенно разные.
Если все пойдет хорошо, в начале 20-х годов у США будут не 3 корабля, а два типа кораблей: для дальних полетов ("Орион") и для НОО ("Дрэгон" и "Старлайнер"). А возможно и СпейсХ доведет до реализацию свою идею "Дальнего Дрэгона" в помощб "Ориону", а там и Бероз "сваяет" что-либо для орбиратльных полетов.
И выполнять разные задачи разными кораблями будет дешевле - меньше переделок, и меньше рисков.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 03.01.2016 11:58:56
Тут можно ещё заметить, что дракон и старлайнер вместе стоят в разы дешевле Ориона.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 03.01.2016 13:21:48
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Проще тем, что наличие двух кораблей для НОО, к тому же не производимыми напрямую НАСА, а покупаемыми под конктреные задачи, развязывает руки и облегчает планирование. НАСА будет платить за полеты на этих кораблях (покупать полет корабля) только до тех пор, прока считает это нужным.
Одновременно увеличивает бюджетные расходы и создают конкуренцию по доступу к бюджетным деньгам от Спейсх и Боинга. Деньги нужны на поддержание одновремнно двух программ что полюбому увеличивает расходы чем одной.
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Что будет с кораблями и производством после завершения потребности НАСА в них - головная боль Боинга и СпейсХ
ВОт об этом то и речь. Регулярно они начнут возить не раньше 2020-го года. НАСА уже проплатило деньги Роскосмосу за 2018 г и скорее будут платить дальше до 2020го. Это сейчас обсуждается.
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
При этом да, и накручивать цену особо не получится.
Возможно. Но издержки будут полюбому выше.
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Путать же с этими кораблями "Орион" не стоит. На сегодня он разрабатывается очень неспешно (в том числе для экономии средств). И разрабатывается одновременно с РН именно для дальних полетов. Если вы не забыли, первый пилотируемый полет намечен на 2021 год, и, возможно, еще не раз сдвинется
Уже 23-й если ничего не путаю.Для Ориона будут служебный европейский модуль и после 2018 г., будет создан так называемый "штормовой отсек". Идеология Ориона не совсем ясна. Она для дальнего космоса но не понятно какого дальнего космоса. При том уровне технологий что есть дальше Луны летать вряд ли придется и про Марс можно забыть. Вся эта концепция с SLS стоит безумно дорого. Если чисто запускать Орион к МКС на атласе или Дельте это будет стоить в 3-5 раз дешевле.

Я все-таки считаю что с жиру бесятся. В случае финансовых сложностей в американской экономике, а они полюбому будут есть шанс не доведения ни одного проекта до логичного конца и только одного частично.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: hlynin от 03.01.2016 14:14:49
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
В случае финансовых сложностей в американской экономике, а они полюбому будут
Интересно, постоянно говорят об возможных трудностях, сложностях и неприятностях. В нашей ли, в другой ли экономике. И даже "полюбому будут". То есть, что делать, если экономика даст дуба. Никогда не встречал выражений, а что делать, если экономика даст козла. Между тем никаких сложностей в американской экономике я не вижу. Как бы наоборот.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: testest2 от 03.01.2016 14:25:50
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Одновременно увеличивает бюджетные расходы и создают конкуренцию по доступу к бюджетным деньгам от Спейсх и Боинга. Деньги нужны на поддержание одновремнно двух программ что полюбому увеличивает расходы чем одной.
Какое дело НАСА до расходов частных компаний? Даже с наценками первого этапа НАСА платит SpaceX за одно место меньше, чем нам. При этом рассуждать о стоимости поддержания систем вы можете сколько угодно.
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
ВОт об этом то и речь. Регулярно они начнут возить не раньше 2020-го года. НАСА уже проплатило деньги Роскосмосу за 2018 г и скорее будут платить дальше до 2020го. Это сейчас обсуждается.
Нет, сейчас продление контракта с нами не обсуждается. Кроме того, тестовые полеты начнутся в 2017 году. По плану даже первый регулярный полет в конце 2017 года.
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Вся эта концепция с SLS стоит безумно дорого. Если чисто запускать Орион к МКС на атласе или Дельте это будет стоить в 3-5 раз дешевле.
ну а если с таким подходом совсем не запускать никуда - еще дешевле.
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
будет создан так называемый "штормовой отсек"
Не будет.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 03.01.2016 14:45:44
Покупают у России потому что договариваться о покупке мест нужно за несколько лет, а не так что захотел, а через полгода Роскосмос выделяет два места в трехместном корабле.
Разговор что Роскосмос будет возить после начала полетов с американской земли кажется есть, но там по взаимозачетам между агентствами.
О каких регулярно возить после 2020 года? Уже сейчас объявлено о желаемом графике запусков кораблей.
Атласа наверное после 21 года уже не будет, т.к. российские движки. Имеющаяся Дельта дорога и требует сертификации.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 04.01.2016 00:16:00
(http://www.infuture.ru/filemanager/IMG_1085_1b_Boeing-Starliner_Ken-Kremer.jpg)

(http://www.infuture.ru/filemanager/IMG_1087_1b_Boeing-Starliner_Ken-Kremer.jpg)

(http://www.infuture.ru/filemanager/IMG_3572_1a_Boeing-CST-100_Ken-Kremer.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 04.01.2016 12:46:41
Поживем увидим. Основная проблема перспективы Старлайнера также как Драгона - это что с ними делать после МКС. Летать они массово начнут все равно после 2020-го года даже несмотря на то что на 2017 г предварительно запланированы пилотируемые миссии. МКС работает до 2025 г, возможно работу станции продлят после 2025 г, но вот что делать после 2030-го большой вопрос. Еще раз в случае бюджетного дефицита возникнут вопросы в применимости 2-ух кораблей. И Боингу и СпэйсХ так же как им подобным (Сьера Невада, Орбиталу и другим) хорошо бы иметь отдельную станцию, иначе их слишком много для одной МКС.  Хотя могу признать что сам по себе Старлайнер будут очень эффективным КК.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 06.01.2016 00:09:57
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет: Летать они массово начнут все равно после 2020-го года даже несмотря на то что на 2017 г предварительно запланированы пилотируемые миссии. 
Они не будут летать массово, это даже не обсуждается. 2 полета в год каждого корабля - то есть суммарно 4 полета. Никакой массовости не планируется. О чем вы вообще?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 05.01.2016 23:58:18
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Они не будут летать массово, это даже не обсуждается. 2 полета в год каждого корабля - то есть суммарно 4 полета.
Возможно, но в планах (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum14/topic9573/message1454565/#message1454565) 2018, 2019 ежегодно по два пилотируемых американских пуска - Май и Ноябрь....
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 06.01.2016 12:42:42
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Возможно, но в планах (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum14/topic9573/message1454565/#message1454565)  2018, 2019 ежегодно по два пилотируемых американских пуска - Май и Ноябрь....
Вы думаете эти 2 + 2 полета и имеются в виду под массовостью???
Насчет сроков - на сегодня все планы 2016+ - писаны на воде вилами. Есть некоторая ясность с первым беспилотным полетом Дрэгона - не раньше декабря. Все остальное - под вопросом. То есть сначала должны пройти пилотируемые испытательные полеты, и лишь потом - "операционные". Никакого "планого разгона" не планируется (то есть сначала по одному полету, потом по два). Когда будет ясность с реальным началом полетов - тогда будет смысл смотреть на таблицу полетов. Сейчас сомое сложный период у НАСА - нужно постоянно отслеживать работу подрядчиков (в реальности), чтобы быть готовым к покупке еще дополнительных мест на "Союзах". Причем постараться не сделать это раньше необходимого.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 06.01.2016 15:32:41
Первый пилотируемый полет СТ-100 в 2017 г также как Драгона. Реальная эксплуатация при самых оптимистичнных и быстрых перспективах по доставке астронавтов на МКС начнется после 2018 г. Именно поэтому НАСА рассматривает дальнейшую возможность по отправке астронавтов на МКС с помощью Союзов после 2018 г. Скорее всего так и будет, поскольку в ходе летных испытаний и эксплуатации возникает масса непредвиденных сложностей и аварий которые тормозят ход. Надеюсь, что с СТ-100 будет не так но все-таки опыт подсказывает что все растягивается минимум на 2-3 года вправо.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 06.01.2016 16:24:06
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Возможно, но в планах (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum14/topic9573/message1454565/#message1454565) 2018, 2019 ежегодно по два пилотируемых американских пуска - Май и Ноябрь....
Вы думаете эти 2 + 2 полета и имеются в виду под массовостью???
Я только подправил 4 полета с американской земли в год, на 2 в год по расписанию в 2018, 2019 году.
А кто завел про массовостью и сколько это в год?
Может быть со временем у них будут краткосрочные миссии посещения МКС, но с другой стороны зачем эти миссии..
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 06.01.2016 17:42:56
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Я только подправил 4 полета с американской земли в год, на 2 в год по расписанию в 2018, 2019 году.
А кто завел про массовостью и сколько это в год?
Может быть со временем у них будут краткосрочные миссии посещения МКС, но с другой стороны зачем эти миссии..
Я понял, просто в нынешней ситуации это пока не определено точно. Экипажи не назначались, корабли пока в разработке. Надеюсь, что сроки выдержат, но сползание вполне возможно. 
Про массовость завел Quооndo: "Летать они массово начнут все равно после 2020-го года". Что он под этим понимает, он пока не ответил.

Краткосрочные миссии - экспедиции посещения. В теории это возможно, но вроде как я понял, Боинг пока планирует сделать всего три экземпляра корабля, из которых только два летных (расчитанных на 10 полетов каждый, то есть элемент многоразовости). При условии, что они будут (каждый) летать по разу в год на МКС, то ни на какие дополнительные миссии времени не остается.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 06.01.2016 17:27:35
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Экипажи не назначались, корабли пока в разработке.
Экипажи для тестовых полетов уже готовы, Даг Херли Сунита Вильямс и другие. Такие экипажи да, пока не назначались, но и рано еще. В 2017-ом только предварительно тестовые полеты.
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Про массовость завел Quооndo: "Летать они массово начнут все равно после 2020-го года". Что он под этим понимает, он пока не ответил.
Под этим я просто тупо подразумевал регулярную эксплуатацию по отправке экипажей 2 раза в год или чаше в случае изменения планов. Может найдут новые ниши после 2020-го года построят какую-нибудь частную ОС и будут туда летать более чем 2 раза в год, и построят на 3 а 5 кораблей или больше. Вот это я имел в виду. Пока же проект в стадии реализации и еще очень рано говорить про регулярные полеты и массовость. Я думаю, что если развивать проект он будут дешевле и эффективней и Боингу стоит задуматься чтобы пойти в ширь.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 06.01.2016 18:30:25
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
В теории это возможно, но вроде как я понял, Боинг пока планирует сделать всего три экземпляра корабля, из которых только два летных (расчитанных на 10 полетов каждый, то есть элемент многоразовости)
а какой ваш источник таких утверждений, т.к. я понял из найденного 
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12270/message1449482/#message1449482
 
Цитата https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-orders-second-boeing-crew-mission-to-international-space-station
...NASA took an important step Friday to establish regular crew missions that will launch from the United States to the International Space Station with the order of its second post-certification mission from Boeing Space Exploration of Houston....This is the third in a series of four guaranteed orders NASA will make under the Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contracts. Boeing and SpaceX received their first orders in May and November, respectively, and have started planning for, building and procuring the necessary hardware and assets to carry out their first missions for the agency. NASA will identify at a later time which company will fly a mission to the station first.

 https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2015/12/18/nasa-orders-second-operational-mission-for-boeings-starliner/
NASA's Commercial Crew Program placed an order for the second operational mission to carry astronauts to the International Space Station aboard Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft.
Что в декабре заказан 4-тый корабль от Боинга.
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum14/topic9573/message1454565/#message1454565
2017 May - CST-100 Starliner (unmanned test) (Boe-OFT) - Atlas V 422 (AV-073) - Canaveral SLC-41
2017 September - CST-100 Starliner (manned test) (Boe-CFT) - Atlas V 422 (AV-080) - Canaveral SLC-41
2017 December - CST-100 Starliner - Atlas V 422 - Canaveral SLC-41
и или в мае или в ноябре, или в обе даты запускает Боинг
2018 May 30 - CST-100 Starliner/Dragon v2 - Atlas V 422 / Falcon 9 FT - Canaveral SLC-41/Kennedy LC-39A
2018 November 30 - CST-100 Starliner/Dragon v2 - Atlas V 422 / Falcon 9 FT - Canaveral SLC-41/Kennedy LC-39A

Как понял первый в рамках операционной деятельности (запуск в декабе 2017) заказали в Мае 2015 (http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/commercial-crew-milestones-met-partners-on-track-for-missions-in-2017)

Что-то при текущем контракте с НАСА массовости запусков ожидать не приходится: минимум два , максимум шесть от одного производителя.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 06.01.2016 20:19:48
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
а какой ваш источник таких утверждений, т.к. я понял из найденного

Что-то при текущем контракте с НАСА массовости запусков ожидать не приходится: минимум два , максимум шесть от одного производителя.
Ничего инсайдерского, в основном блог НАСА про коммерческие корабли Commercial Crew Program (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/) и лента новостей PARABOLIC ARC (http://www.parabolicarc.com/). В одной из новостей было цифра - 4 полета в год с "американской земли".

Как я понимаю, на сегодня размещены заявки не 4, а 3 полета: 2 с Боингом, 1 со СпейсХ. Вторая со СпейсХ будет скоро, если я не пропустил. Первая в ноябре была.

По числу полетов тут нюанс. Как и с доставкой грузов на ограниченное число полетов, по программе 
Commercial Crew Transportation предусматривается заранее определнное число полетов, что ничуть не мешает её продлению. Либо через отдельное соглашение с одним из "провайдеров", либо через расширение числа полетов в рамках программы, либо новый конкурс. 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 07.01.2016 14:46:23
Мне бы очень хотелось чтобы Боинг построил не 3-4 СТ-100 а 10 Старлайнеров. Чтобы они летали не 3-4 раза в год на МКС а 10 раз в год. Чтобы в 2020-х Боинг договорился бы с Бигелоу и они вместе построили бы ОС для туристов. Чтобы Стралайнер возил не 2-3 человека, а 6-7 за раз из которых 4-5 будут туристами. Чтобы Старлайнеры летали бы через 10 лет не 2-3 раза в год а каждый месяц, и поднимали на орбиту по 50-100 человек в год. Чтобы космический туризм стал бы точно такой же естественной вещью как обычный. Но ситуация такова что все эти надежды очень незначительны, а Старлайнер будут скорее всего реально летать 2-3 раза в год даже через 10 лет. И если число построенных челноков не превысит 5, то количество миссий по большому счету ограничено продолжительностью работы МКС. При конкуренции с Драгоном один из них точно сойдет с дистанции за контракты для НАСА.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Pirat5 от 07.01.2016 15:31:49
лет 30 назад такой же молодой человек, как Quооndo (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/user/43036/), в Америке мечтал про 20-30 пусков Шаттла в год, про свою крупную орбитальную станцию. но реальность оказалась другая...
однако ж не стОит становиться пессимистами.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 07.01.2016 16:28:47
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/01/atlas-v-starliner-to-dry-tests-ahead-launch/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 07.01.2016 17:48:44
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Чтобы Стралайнер возил не 2-3 человека
Кроме первого пилотируемого полета экипаж в дальнейшем никак не 2-3 человека....

Откуда пишущие в теме берут что НАСА будет брать б/у.... какие англоязычные официальные источники? кроме как заявлений что корабль частично многоразовый
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 07.01.2016 19:49:40
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Откуда пишущие в теме берут что НАСА будет брать б/у.... какие англоязычные официальные источники? кроме как заявлений что корабль частично многоразовый
John Elbon об этом говорил в конце января прошлого года. На 4 полета (один беспилотный, один испытательный, и два операционных) строится всего два корабля. 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 07.01.2016 18:59:36
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
Кроме первого пилотируемого полета экипаж в дальнейшем никак не 2-3 человека....
Будет четыре.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 07.01.2016 20:25:10
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
John Elbon об этом говорил в конце января прошлого года. На 4 полета (один беспилотный, один испытательный, и два операционных) строится всего два корабля.
а можно ссылку на источник т.к. не нашел с разбега. На форуме тоже не нашел что строится два корабля, это более похоже на два запуска по контракту в рамках операционной деятельности. На англоязычной вики тоже нету.
Цитата http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/01/28/atlas-5-launch-pad-being-prepared-for-astronaut-crews/
"We build that up and we load it to make sure that the design matches the load paths," Elbon said. "This fall, the pieces that will make up the qualification test vehicle, which then gets refurbished to become the crew flight test vehicle, will be arriving."
Цитата http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/02/20/launch-america-getting-new-access-gantry-for-astronauts-2/
"The CST-100 capsule is designed to be used 10 times. So we will recover it, refurbish it in the facility at KSC and fly it again," said Elbon.
Кто-то надеятся что пятое место будет использоваться не по контракту с НАСА
Цитатаhttp://www.americaspace.com/?p=61328
"What is the crew size that can fly aboard CST-100?"
"The crew size will be five. We can go to seven if we have to. But NASA only wants four. Their requirement says four. We sell NASA the seats," said Ferguson.
Цитата http://www.boeing.com/space/crew-space-transportation-100-vehicle/
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/60235)
(что-то Боинг не пишет на странице в вехах истории про купленный второй полет, про первый писали)


Статья от 29 декабря 2015 с фотографиями
Цитата http://www.universetoday.com/120760/buildup-first-boeing-starliner-crew-vehicle-ramps-kennedy-space-center/
BUILDUP OF FIRST BOEING STARLINER CREW VEHICLE RAMPS UP AT KENNEDY SPACE CENTER
 29 Dec , 2015 by Ken Kremer (http://www.universetoday.com/author/ken-kremer/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Бальзам Космический от 07.01.2016 20:57:33
странно, НАСА Маску отказало в повторном использовании "Драконов" при полётах на МКС, а Боингу разрешило, в чём же причина, у них корабли что не в солёные Атлантический или Тихий океаны будут приводнятся, а к примеру в пресное озеро Мичиган, или Боингу удалось создать системы корабля на которые не воздействует солёная вода?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Бальзам Космический от 07.01.2016 21:59:01
тут ещё момент у Маска с многоразовостью Falcon 9, НАСА вряд ли ему позволит сажать пилотируемый Дракон на уже отлетавшую 1 ступень, вероятно для Дракона будут использовать новую, а её уже отлетавшую для других ПН
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 07.01.2016 23:16:30
ЦитатаКоля Наумов пишет:
у них корабли что не в солёные Атлантический или Тихий океаны будут приводнятся, а к примеру в пресное озеро Мичиган, или Боингу удалось создать системы корабля на которые не воздействует солёная вода?
кажется ответ звучал ранее
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12270/message1220415/#message1220415
ЦитатаValerij пишет:
На сушу, на аэробэгах (надувных амортизаторах). Естественно, с парашютом.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Бальзам Космический от 08.01.2016 01:25:49
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
ЦитатаКоля Наумов пишет:
у них корабли что не в солёные Атлантический или Тихий океаны будут приводнятся, а к примеру в пресное озеро Мичиган, или Боингу удалось создать системы корабля на которые не воздействует солёная вода?
кажется ответ звучал ранее
 http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12270/message1220415/#message1220415
ЦитатаValerij пишет:
На сушу, на аэробэгах (надувных амортизаторах). Естественно, с парашютом.
неужто они смогут смягчить удар, при приземлении? так чтоб не пострадали астронавты и СА, это же не версия многоразового Дракона с его управляемым спуском при использовании двигателей САС/ДМП, который должен будет приземляться в определённой площадке, а Старлайнер планируют сажать в пустыне?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: pkl от 08.01.2016 02:27:58
Коля, Вам же сказали - посадка на надувных амортизаторах /вроде тех, что в автомашинах/. Вполне смягчают удар.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Бальзам Космический от 08.01.2016 01:47:49
Цитатаpkl пишет:
Коля, Вам же сказали - посадка на надувных амортизаторах /вроде тех, что в автомашинах/. Вполне смягчают удар.
да всё понятно, спасибо, просто странно что никто кроме Боинга не использовал и не планирует (насколько мне известно)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: N от 08.01.2016 10:18:57
Много автоматов использовало пневматические бамперы.
Мало пилотируемых капсул было в разработке. Пилотируемые американские капсулы садились на воду. Советские амортизировались ДМП еще со времен Восхода. Китайцы повторили советские образцы.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Бальзам Космический от 08.01.2016 16:36:33
ЦитатаN пишет:
Много автоматов использовало пневматические бамперы.
Мало пилотируемых капсул было в разработке. Пилотируемые американские капсулы садились на воду. Советские амортизировались ДМП еще со времен Восхода. Китайцы повторили советские образцы.
про посадку пилотируемых всё известно... летавших и летающих. а про автоматы, какие из них садились на Землю на надувных амортизаторах? такая посадка была у аппаратов Е-6, и марсианских АМС, и то по большей части советских
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: KLantratov от 18.01.2016 17:11:20
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
ЦитатаPaleopulo пишет:
Экипажи не назначались, корабли пока в разработке.
Экипажи для тестовых полетов уже готовы, Даг Херли Сунита Вильямс и другие. Такие экипажи да, пока не назначались, но и рано еще. В 2017-ом только предварительно тестовые полеты.
Бенкен и Боу, похоже, специализируются на CST-100 (в сообщении от 7 января 2016). Хотя, может быть, в кадр попала только их тренировка
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/01/07/astronauts-take-first-look-at-starliner-trainers/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 20.01.2016 01:08:06
http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/01/19/bridging-the-past-and-future-on-the-shoulders-of-the-atlas-rocket/
ЦитатаBridging the past and future on the shoulders of the Atlas rocket       
Posted on January 19, 2016 by Justin Ray (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/justin-sfn-ray/)
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Two generations of manned Atlas rockets. Launch of John Glenn (left) and concept of Starliner (right). Credit: NASA and Boeing
 
CAPE CANAVERAL -- On top of an Atlas rocket, the place where orbital spaceflight for American astronauts began, will sit Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to launch humans into space starting next year.
It was Feb. 20, 1962 when an Atlas D booster blasted off with Project Mercury's Friendship 7 capsule and John Glenn to become the nation's first person to orbit the Earth.
More than a half-century later, a bold new era of commercial travel to and from space is about to start, and Atlas rockets will again play a pivotal role.
The domestic access to space for U.S. astronauts has been stymied since the winged shuttle orbiters were retired from service in 2011, leaving NASA to purchase seats aboard Russian Soyuz crew capsules flying up and down from the International Space Station.
The Soyuz, a reliable ship for sure, launches and lands in Kazakhstan, away from the limelight and national pride of Americans who once flocked to Florida's Space Coast for a glimpse of man departing the Earth atop a rocket's brilliant glare.
But next year, after enduring budget-related delays, NASA's Commercial Crew Program is poised to launch its first astronauts from U.S. soil.
"I remember when I launched from Kennedy the first time on a U.S. space shuttle and it was pretty amazing. So I can only imagine what it's going to be like after this long period of time to get back on a spacecraft at Kennedy and have family and friends and people from all over the country watching. That's going to be pretty special," said Suni Williams, one of the astronauts now training to fly on a Commercial Crew spacecraft.
"I think we have lost a little bit of that in the last couple of years because we were launching from so far away in Kazakhstan with the Russian space program. So bringing that back home to everybody here, it will be a pretty exciting moment."
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Crowds flock to the Space Coast to see the final shuttle launch in 2011. Credit: NASA
 
NASA has assigned a four-person cadre of astronauts that will fly the initial test flights of the Starliner and Dragon spacecraft. They put a human face on the vehicles and are integral to building the partnerships between NASA and the commercial providers.
All are veteran space shuttle astronauts and military test pilots:
* Air Force Col. Bob Behnken, a two-time space shuttle mission specialist and former chief astronaut. After graduating Air Force Test Pilot School, he was a flight test engineer for the F-22.
* Ret. Air Force Col. Eric Boe, a two-time shuttle pilot including Discovery's final mission. He graduated Air Force Test Pilot School and was assigned as the director of test for Air-to-Air Missile Test Division flying the F-15 and UH-1N.
* Ret. Marine Col. Doug Hurley, a two-time shuttle pilot including the final flight in 2011. He graduated from Naval Test Pilot School and was assigned to the Naval Strike Aircraft Test Squadron, becoming the first Marine pilot to fly the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet.
* Navy Capt. Suni Williams, a veteran of 322 days in space, launching aboard Discovery on her way to serving as a flight engineer aboard the space station's Expedition 14-15 crew, then later flying aboard a Soyuz to be commander of Expedition 33. After graduation from the Naval Test Pilot School, she was assigned to the Rotary Wing Aircraft Test Directorate as an H-46 project officer and later returned to the school as an instructor.
"It's really been the dream of all of us to participate in the test of a new vehicle, and a vehicle like a spacecraft is the gem of a career for folks," Behnken said.
"I would have been embarrassed as a Test Pilot School graduate to not jump at the opportunity, if it was offered to me, to fly a new spacecraft."
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Behnken, Williams, Boe and Hurley survey the Atlas crew access arm. Credit: NASA
 
Engineers and technicians, diligently working today in factories across the country, are building new spacecraft and the rockets to launch them, a commercial endeavor by The Boeing Co., United Launch Alliance and Space Exploration Technologies Corp. for NASA and the nation.
The firms will share the role of taxi service for crew members going to low-Earth orbit, with Boeing's Starliner craft being launched atop United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rockets and the SpaceX capsules flying on the company's Falcon 9 booster.
"We are excited to be back in manned flight again. There's a lot of experience that we bring to the table regarding manned flight and we are thrilled to pieces to have our partners to work with to get some smoke and fire back on the launch pad," said Steve Payne, who orchestrated space shuttle countdowns and now serves in the Commercial Crew Program at Kennedy Space Center.
"But it is their show. This is the beginning of a whole new industry of commercial spaceflight. Someday you'll be able to go buy a ticket and fly as well."
Manufacturing of the Starliners is underway at Kennedy Space Center's former shuttle hangar now occupied by Boeing. ULA begins building the first man-rated Atlas 5 rockets this spring at its sprawling plant in Decatur, Alabama.
Starliner, originally dubbed the Crew Space Transportation (CST) -100 spacecraft, can accommodate up to seven passengers or a mix of crew and cargo to low-Earth orbit. It features an automated docking system and a parachute and air bag system for soft land landings.
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Atlas and Starliner clear the tower. Credit: NASA/ULA
 
Boeing's Orbital Flight Test, or OFT, is targeted for next summer aboard Atlas 5 tail number AV-076. It will be an unmanned checkout mission for the Starliner spacecraft, flying up the International Space Station and docking for a brief stay before returning to Earth for landing.
Then comes the Crewed Flight Test, or CFT, next October, if all goes well, to take a Boeing test pilot and a NASA astronaut to the space station for a full-up demonstration of the commercial ferry service. It will launch atop Atlas AV-079.
"Shuttle was a very complicated system and it had some drawbacks because of the tiles, the fragility, and the foam on the tank. These are simpler systems with fewer moving parts," Payne said.
"The capsules are newer with all of the design issues that we discovered in the past that we didn't want to do again worked out. So we have a lot of clever, new design ideas incorporated.
"As far as the launch vehicle goes, the Atlas 5 is a tried and tested vehicle that has been doing this for many years and has many successful launches behind it."
Once the system is completely checked out, NASA will send its first full crew to the station aboard either Starliner or Dragon, likely in early 2018.
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An illustration of the Starliner atop Atlas at Complex 41. Credit: Boeing
 
The Atlas 5 rocket has flown 60 times, all successfully, since 2002, launching a variety of satellites for the U.S. military, intelligence community, NASA and commercial operators.
"It's really starting to get very exciting," said Gary Wentz, United Launch Alliance's vice president of Human Launch Services.
"It's really transforming the ULA business towards NASA and space station as a prominent part."
Heaving the hefty Starliners into low-Earth orbit will require the Centaur upper stage be outfitted with two Aerojet Rocketdyne RL10 engines instead of one. Dual-engine Centaurs have flown for decades, but never on an Atlas 5 rocket.
"It really opens up our capability to carry this larger payload," Wentz said.
Boeing has not publicly released the exact mass of Starliner.
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Illustrations of the Starliner spacecraft. Credit: Boeing
 
There's also the rigorous process to ensure the launch vehicle is safe for its human riders.
"It is really about testing and certifying the systems to a different set of reliability and margin requirements that are appropriate when we are actually going to put human beings there. So far, so good," Tory Bruno, ULA's president and CEO, said on The Space Show program earlier this month.
"We work closely, very hand in glove, with NASA to make sure that these unique requirements for human certification are met and all of their experts are coming along step by step with my people to make sure there is complete transparency and that we are all confident that it is safe to put people on top of that giant rocket when the time comes. We have a plan that we've agreed upon and we are marching through that with NASA."
Construction of a crew access tower is nearing completion at the Atlas 5 rocket's Cape launch pad. The new gantry, positioned in the northwest corner of the pad, was built in sections off-site and moved to Complex 41 in between ongoing Atlas launch activities for stacking.
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An artist's concept of the White Room next to Starliner. Credit: NASA
 
"It was a great challenge and I'm very proud of how both the ULA and construction teams worked together in unison to work around our busy launch manifest last year," said Wentz.
"It was a very well choreographed activity and the team at the Cape did an exceptional job putting that together."
The tower stands 200 feet tall and features an elevator to take personnel from the ground to the top and a 42-foot-long swing arm that will be the threshold to enter the capsules.
The arm, which is undergoing testing of its retraction mechanism off-site, will be installed on the pad this summer.
"The team is out there right now working on the tower, focusing on the mechanical, electrical, plumbing connections, outfitting the elevator and putting on some final skins to protect the tower," Wentz said.
Also still to come will be implementing an emergency evacuation system for pad personnel and the flight crews.
"We have looked at several different systems. We are in the final phase right now of selecting that emergency egress system and hope to sel ect that within the next month or so," Wentz said.
The whole tower system should be operational by this fall.
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The most recent Atlas 5 launch with the crew access tower. Credit: ULA
 
"I'm going to be really excited when we get to put people on spacecraft at Kennedy Space Center. It is going to be pretty amazing for our whole country, for the whole world, when you think of the implications of this advanced technology in a spacecraft," Williams said.
The first chance to get astronauts inside a Starliner at the launch pad, likely, will be several weeks before the first flight to simulate crew activities and for the launch team to exercise the day-of-launch communications plan. ULA also intends to conduct a wet dress rehearsal to go through a realistic countdown before that initial mission, Wentz said.
The Atlas rocket stages will be stacked aboard a mobile launch platform, the solids affixed to the vehicle and Starliner hoisted atop the Centaur at the Vertical Integration Facility. The fully assembled launcher will be transported on rail tracks some 1,800 feet to the pad the day before liftoff, keeping with standard Atlas 5 practices, for follow on Starliner missions.
Today's Atlas launch countdown lasts for about seven hours to power up the rocket, run through the testing protocols and then load cryogenic liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen into the vehicle during the last two hours. A hold occurs at T-minus 4 minutes, usually lasting 15 minutes, to perform the final readiness polls and grant approval for entering the last phase of the count.
But the manned Atlas countdowns will see the timeline expanded by four hours to a total duration of 11 hours. Activities will follow today's script to T-minus 4 minutes, with the cryogenic tanks entering stable replenish mode, before diverging to the new era.
That's when a four-hour hold will occur as the astronauts depart the crew quarters and travel to the launch pad, board the capsule and run through communications checks with mission control.
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File photo of the final shuttle crew boarding Atlantis. Credit: NASA
 
A closeout team of less than 10 people representing Boeing, NASA and ULA will assist the crew into the spacecraft and get strapped in, Wentz said.
The Atlas 5 rocket's first experience taking aim at the International Space Station last month with a commercial Orbital ATK Cygnus cargo freighter had a 30-minute launch window. But that won't be the case with Starliner launches.
"It will be an instantaneous launch window because of the mass of the vehicle and the trajectory," Wentz said.
It took five minutes of propulsion by the one-and-a-half-stage Atlas D rocket, with a liftoff thrust of 360,000 pounds from the booster engine package and sustainer engine, to put John Glenn's 3,000-pound, single-occupant capsule into orbit for a five-hour, three-revolution trek for the free world.
The modern Atlas 5 will unleash 1.5 million pounds of thrust from its kerosene-fueled RD-180 main engine and two strap-on solid rocket boosters to begin the journey to space with Starliner.
The Centaur upper stage, fueled with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, then performs a 7.5-minute burn to propel the capsule, deploying it roughly 15 minutes and 42 seconds after liftoff.
It's officially known as the 422 variant of the Atlas 5 rocket, standing 172 feet tall. In comparison, John Glenn's launcher was a mere 95 feet tall.
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John Glenn's Atlas rocket (left) compared side-by-side to Atlas 5. Credit: NASA and Boeing
 
Throughout the ascent, the Starliner spacecraft will have the ability to declare an abort and separate fr om a malfunctioning rocket, through its liquid-propelled pusher abort system, to immediately return to Earth and save the crew.
"We have a chance to build upon a new launch capability for America," said Hurley.
"It's kind of like climbing a mountain, going up hill is only half the trip. So we have to make sure we get everyone back safely as well, and then build a reliable vehicle that can continue to take our crews to the space station."
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An artist's of a Starliner spacecraft launching atop an Atlas 5 rocket. Credit: NASA/ULA
 
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
 SFN's lead ULA writer

Justin Ray has been a reporter with Spaceflight Now since the website's inception in November 1999. The online news service, based at Cape Canaveral, has documented U.S. and international space news with a specialty of live launch coverage.
Prior to that, Justin worked for two years as an aerospace reporter at the Florida Today newspaper and its pioneering Space Online website. He began his career as an intern at Patrick Air Force Base's public affairs office in 1996 and wrote for the Missileer base newspaper.
The Ohio native has covered 139 Delta rocket launches, 108 Atlas flights, 65 space shuttle missions and construction of the International Space Station, plus scientific spacecraft such as the Mars rovers and Cassini.
He attended college at the University of Central Florida and now resides in Satellite Beach, Florida.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 18.02.2016 17:43:24
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.@Commercial_Crew (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew) astronauts getting to know #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash), which will launch @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense)'s #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) #LaunchAmerica (https://twitter.com/hashtag/LaunchAmerica?src=hash)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 20.02.2016 18:33:35
незнаю было или нет про двигатели
Цитатаhttps://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/02/16/starliner-testing-white-sands-new-mexico/
Posted on February 16, 2016 at 10:46 am by Steven Siceloff.

Starliner Testing: White Sands, New Mexico
Boeing's Chris Ferguson highlighted (https://twitter.com/astro_ferg) the area at White Sands, New Mexico, where the company will perform a pad abort test of its CST-100 Starliner in 2017. White Sands has been the site of numerous systems tests for a wide variety of spacecraft systems for years. The Starliner is designed with four large engines in its service module that can fire quickly to lift the spacecraft and astronauts aboard out of danger, whether that be away from the launch pad or during ascent into orbit.
Цитатаhttps://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/02/17/starliner-performs-well-in-airbag-testing/
Starliner Performs Well in Airbag Testing
Posted on February 17, 2016 at 5:54 pm by Stephanie Martin.

The Boeing CST-100 Starliner airbag system, which will provide a safe landing for the spacecraft during any phase of flight, was put to the test over the 20-foot-deep Hydro Impact Basin at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, on Feb. 9. The Starliner is one of two commercial spacecraft in development to launch astronauts from the U.S. to the International Space Station via NASA's Commercial Crew Program.

Six landing airbags, designed and manufactured by ILC Dover in Frederica, Delaware, were inflated before the full-size Starliner test article was hoisted up by a crane and then dropped from a height and angle that mimicked what the spacecraft might encounter as it pushes off an Atlas V rocket during a launch or ascent emergency. The goal for Boeing's landing and recovery team is to achieve flight qualification status of the Starliner's airbag and up-righting systems through a series of tests at Langley's Hydro Impact Basin.

While the Starliner is designed for land-based returns, it is important for engineers to understand how the spacecraft and its systems would perform in all landing scenarios.
https://youtu.be/4Sk4sYFHhjA (https://youtu.be/4Sk4sYFHhjA) https://youtu.be/4Sk4sYFHhjA

Цитатаhttps://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/02/09/administrator-bolden-sees-starliner-before-testing/
Administrator Bolden Sees Starliner Before Testing
Posted on February 9, 2016 at 4:41 pm by Steven Siceloff.

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden took a close look today at the airbag system for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, before a contingency water landing test with a full-size spacecraft mock-up.

Although it's designed to land on land, Boeing is testing the Starliner at Langley's Hydro Impact Basin to evaluate its tendencies in case it has to land in the water in the event of, for example, an unlikely launch or ascent emergency that calls for the spacecraft to separate from its rocket and parachute itself and the astronauts inside to safety. Starliner is being developed in partnership with NASA to carry up to four astronauts at a time to the International Space Station. An additional crew member will allow science time on the orbiting laboratory to double for NASA's Journey to Mars and research that will benefit everyone on Earth.

Bolden visited Langley to deliver his annual "State of NASA" address during which he detailed aspects of the agency's budget request.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 03.03.2016 01:19:40
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  
Phil McAlister showed this chart of CCtCap (comm'l crew) milestones; more have been completed since last update.
 
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 22.03.2016 12:13:46
ЦитатаJon Shaban ‏@Jon_Shaban  (https://twitter.com/Jon_Shaban) 12 ч.12 часов назад (https://twitter.com/Jon_Shaban/status/712027201361874944) (21 марта 2016)
Getting a look at the Crew Access Arm and White Room for @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) #CST100Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CST100Starliner?src=hash) #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) 
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ЦитатаРетвитнуто NASA Social
 (https://twitter.com/NASASocial)(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/563827857814605824/zvKDJUvj_bigger.jpeg)ULA ‏@ulalaunch  (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 14 ч.14 часов назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/711991483260407808)
Hello @NASASocial (https://twitter.com/NASASocial)! Check out the Crew Access Arm astronauts will use to board @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense)'s #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) #AtlasV
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 31.03.2016 18:01:40
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/715552131323994115

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 12.04.2016 23:09:59
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  
Elbon: crewed test flight of CST-100 planned for December 2017; would then be ready to start regular service in 2018. #32SS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/32SS?src=hash)
  7:38 - 12 апр. 2016 г.  
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 12.04.2016 23:23:00
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 6 ч.6 часов назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/719893743457816576)
At Boeing #32SS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/32SS?src=hash) briefing, John Elbon says CST-100 remains on schedule, working through mass and aeroacouistics challenges.
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  6 ч.6 часов назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/719900846889132032)  
Elbon: CST-100 has 7-seat capacity, but will be configured for 5. Four for ISS crew; fifth seat could be used for cargo or tourists. #32SS (https://twitter.com/hashtag/32SS?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 19.04.2016 12:25:10
https://youtu.be/8qzM1aXnf64
ULA's Role in the Commercial Crew Program
https://youtu.be/8qzM1aXnf64 (https://youtu.be/8qzM1aXnf64)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 20.04.2016 12:08:08
вопрос, а двухмоторную дельта аппер стейдж делать не будут?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 20.04.2016 20:14:13
Дельта уже почти отлеталась. А ACES может и четырехмоторный будет, если RL-10 или XCOR выберут.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 11.05.2016 15:30:00
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/05/10/astronaut-visits-starliner-component-makers-in-california/
ЦитатаAstronaut Visits Starliner Component Makers in California
Posted on May 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/05/10/astronaut-visits-starliner-component-makers-in-california/) by Steven Siceloff (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/ssicelof/).
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Veteran astronaut Megan McArthur toured two of the companies building components for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft recently and met with some of the employees who are designing and making sensors and circuit boards the spacecraft and its crews will rely on to steer precisely to the International Space Station. She was joined by Chris Ferguson, a former space shuttle commander who is now Boeing's director of Crew and Mission Operations for Commercial Crew. Boeing is one of two companies under contract with NASA's Commercial Crew Program to develop spacecraft systems to take astronauts to the space station. The missions will enhance research by increasing the number of crew members aboard the orbiting laboratory.
McArthur, who flew as a mission specialist on STS-125 and captured the Hubble Space Telescope with the shuttle's robotic arm, visited Advanced Scientific Concepts in Santa Barbara, California, on April 7 where she surveyed the 3D Flash Light Detection and Ranging sensors the company is making. The LIDAR gear will let Starliner crews see the station in all conditions in space during a mission. The next day, McArthur visited Qual-Pro Corp in Gardena, California, where engineers are making the circuit boards that will allow Starliner systems to communicate with each other.
"It's never about the individual or just the crew members who are in space," McArthur said. "It's always about the team of folks who are getting us ready to fly, who are getting the hardware ready to fly and keeping us safe while we're up there. It's not something we can ever succeed at by ourselves." 
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.05.2016 00:17:31
http://www.geekwire.com/2016/boeing-starliner-schedule-astronauts-slips-2018/
ЦитатаBoeing's Starliner schedule for sending astronauts into orbit slips to 2018
by Alan Boyle (http://www.geekwire.com/author/alanboyle/) on May 11, 2016 at 4:18 pm
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The hull of a CST-100 Starliner structural test vehicle is assembled inside Boeing's Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. (Credit: NASA)

A top Boeing executive said today that the company plans to start sending crews into orbit aboard its CST-100 Starliner space taxi in 2018, which represents a slight delay in NASA's previous development schedule.
"We're working toward our first unmanned flight in 2017, followed by a manned astronaut flight in 2018," Leanne Caret, who is Boeing's executive vice president as well as president and chief executive officer of Boeing's defense, space and security division, said at a briefing for investors.
Previously, Boeing said both test flights, uncrewed and crewed, were scheduled for 2017. Just this week, Aviation Week reported that Boeing was sticking to the 2017 schedule (http://aviationweek.com/space/boeing-handling-setbacks-it-completes-commercial-crew-vehicle), even though it's been working through challenges related to the mass of the spacecraft and aeroacoustic issues related to integration with its United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 launch vehicle.
In a follow-up to Caret's comments, Boeing spokeswoman Rebecca Regan told GeekWire that those factors contributed to the schedule slip. In addition, NASA software updates have added more work for developers.
https://youtu.be/qs_a_cd61-8 (https://youtu.be/qs_a_cd61-8)
https://youtu.be/qs_a_cd61-8

Boeing and SpaceX are building spacecraft to transport astronauts to and from the space station for NASA, under the terms of $6.8 billion in contracts that were awarded in 2014. Boeing was allotted $4.2 billion to work on the Starliner, while SpaceX is getting $2.6 billion to upgrade its Dragon cargo capsule to carry astronauts.
Each space taxi is designed to carry up to seven astronauts plus cargo, at a cost that's less than the $81 million per seat that the Russians are charging (http://spacenews.com/nasa-blaming-commercial-crew-cuts-extends-soyuz-contract/) for trips on Soyuz capsules. A smaller crew is expected to fly on the initial missions.
SpaceX conducted a pad abort test of its Crew Dragon (http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/spacexs-pad-abort-test-its-dragon-spaceship-real-blast-n354551) (a.k.a. Dragon V2) a year ago. An uncrewed test flight is planned during the first half of 2017, followed by an in-flight abort test and a crewed Dragon flight to the space station later in the year.
This month, Boeing's team bolted together a structural test version of the Starliner (http://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/05/11/starliner-test-article-joined-to-complete-first-hull/), which will be used to make sure the spacecraft can stand up to the rigors of spaceflight. Astronauts are already training on Starliner flight simulators (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/04/26/astronauts-fly-starliner-simulators-during-st-louis-trip/), and components for the first flight vehicle will soon be put together inside Boeing's processing facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
https://youtu.be/MHV1AuZDSbE (https://youtu.be/MHV1AuZDSbE)
https://youtu.be/MHV1AuZDSbE

For Boeing to shift its crewed test flight from 2017 to 2018 isn't as much of a slip as it might sound: The company's earlier schedule had called for the visit to the space station to take place in mid-December.
However, if both companies stick to their stated schedules, SpaceX would become the first U.S. commercial venture to send astronauts to the space station - and as a result would take possession of a highly prized trophy: a U.S. flag that was left aboard the station (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2014/07/10/throwback-thursday-a-flag-awaits/) by the last space shuttle crew in 2011.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.05.2016 00:19:32
http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2016/05/boeing-starliner-delayed-2018/
ЦитатаBoeing's first crewed Starliner space launch slips to 2018  
The delay means only SpaceX can wean NASA off Russian transportation by next year.  
  Eric Berger (http://arstechnica.co.uk/author/ericberger)
 5/12/2016, 12:42 PM
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 Boeing Defense
   
NASA has pinpointed next year as the time when its dependence upon Russia to fly its astronauts to the International Space Station will finally end. However, one of the two companies now slated to provide that service, Boeing, has said it will not be able to launch a crewed mission of its Starliner spacecraft until 2018 at the earliest.
In a report that first appeared (http://www.geekwire.com/2016/boeing-starliner-schedule-astronauts-slips-2018/) in GeekWire, chief executive officer of Boeing's defense, space and security division, Leanne Caret, told investors: "We're working toward our first unmanned flight in 2017, followed by a manned astronaut flight in 2018." The company has been struggling to limit the mass of the spacecraft and acoustic issues related to its launch vehicle, a United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket.
After an intense competition with other providers, Boeing received $4.2 billion in 2014 to finalize development of the Starliner capsule, and SpaceX received $2.6 billion to finish development of its Dragon capsule. A spokesman for SpaceX told Ars Wednesday night that the company remains on track for crewed missions in 2017.
NASA has had to rely on Russian Soyuz spacecraft to deliver its astronauts to the space station since the summer of 2011, when the space shuttle retired. The space agency's administrator, Charles Bolden, has criticized Congress for consistently under-funding its commercial crew program since the shuttle stopped flying. This has already delayed the launch of Boeing and SpaceX vehicles from 2015 to 2017.
The Russians have been reliable partners to NASA in the space station program, but they have steadily increased the price of a seat, from less than $50 million several years ago to more than $81.7 million in future years. As a hedge against the possibility of delays, NASA signed a $490-million deal with Russia last year, which would procure six more seats in 2018 and early 2019.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 13.05.2016 10:40:39
http://spacenews.com/boeing-delays-first-crewed-cst-100-flight-to-2018/

ЦитатаBoeing delays first crewed CST-100 flight to 2018

by Jeff Foust (http://spacenews.com/author/jeff-foust/) -- May 12, 2016

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Artist's concept of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner capsule approaching the International Space Station. Credit: NASA/Boeing


WASHINGTON -- Boeing has delayed the first crewed flight of its CST-100 Starliner commercial crew vehicle until early 2018, later than NASA's original deadline, because of a series of technical issues and new requirements that the company argues are typical for an aerospace development program.
The current development schedule, Boeing spokeswoman Rebecca Regan said May 12, calls for a pad abort test of the spacecraft's launch abort system in October 2017. That will be followed by an uncrewed orbital test flight of the spacecraft in December 2017. A crewed flight, carrying one NASA astronaut and one Boeing test pilot to the International Space Station, is now scheduled for February 2018.
Those milestones are several months later than what Boeing and NASA previously planned. A NASA chart listing milestones for its Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contracts, dated November 2015 and presented at a March 2 meeting of the NASA Advisory Council's human exploration and operations committee, had the uncrewed CST-100 test flight scheduled for June 2017 and the crewed test flight in October 2017.
Regan said that several factors contributed to the new schedule, which Boeing recently presented to NASA. One issue was reducing the spacecraft's mass. "It's typical of any development program," she said of that work, adding that the mass was now "in the box."
A second issue is aerodynamics issues during launch and ascent of the CST-100 on an Atlas 5. Regan said Boeing has developed a "really viable option" for dealing with pressure on the spacecraft and launch vehicle, and plans to test it in a wind tunnel soon.
A final factor, she said, was that NASA gave Boeing additional software requirements for the spacecraft, which requires about three months of work to complete. "A combination of those things contributed to the revised schedule," she said.
The revised schedule, including the slip of the first crewed mission to 2018, came to light in comments by Leanne Caret, Boeing executive vice president and head of the company's defense, space and security division, at a company investor conference May 11 in Seattle. "We're working towards our first unmanned flight in 2017 followed by a manned astronaut flight in 2018," she said. Previously, Boeing had indicated it planned to carry out that initial crewed flight before the end of 2017, although she made no explicit mention of a delay.
Caret added that even with the revised schedule, Boeing still hoped to be the first company to fly its commercial crew vehicle. "It is our vision that the CST-100 will be the first of the new American capsules to take astronauts to space," she said.
However, even before the latest delay, Boeing's schedule was behind that of the other company with a CCtCap contract, SpaceX. The same milestone chart presented at the March NASA Advisory Council committee meeting listed an uncrewed flight of SpaceX's Crew Dragon spacecraft in December 2016, followed by a crewed flight test in April 2017.
NASA spokeswoman Stephanie Martin said May 12 that NASA had not yet updated the schedule of CCtCap milestones for the two companies since the one presented in March. Boeing, she said, has completed 13 milestones to date, and SpaceX has completed 8. SpaceX did not respond to a May 12 request for an update about that schedule.
Regan said it was an "aspiration" for Boeing to be the first U.S. company to fly a crewed spacecraft to the ISS, in part because the company is the prime contractor for the station. "There's a lot of pride at Boeing to do that," she said, but added the company prioritized safety over schedule.
Although the CST-100 flight test schedule is delayed, Boeing is emphasizing the progress it is making on the overall program. The company announced May 11 it had mated the two parts of a structural test article of the spacecraft. That test article will soon be shipped to a Boeing facility in California for environmental and other tests.
The revised schedule means Boeing won't meet NASA's goal of being certified by the end of 2017. That certification, which allows the company to perform crew transportation missions to and fr om the station, requires a final review after the crewed test flight to the station. In the scheduled NASA presented in March, that certification review for Boeing was scheduled for late November 2016.
That delay could raise new questions from Congress about the commercial crew program. In contrast to previous years, wh ere it was a hot topic in congressional hearings, the program rarely came up during House and Senate hearings about NASA's fiscal year 2017 budget request. A spending bill approved by the Senate Appropriations Committee April 21 provided the program with $1.18 billion, the amount requested by NASA.
The report accompanying the bill, though, indicated some skepticism about schedules even before this latest delay. "Both companies now anticipate completing contracted milestones on a delayed schedule, closer to the anticipated launch dates, compressing already aggressive and optimistic schedules," the report stated. "This leaves little margin for either provider to maintain schedule as unanticipated challenges emerge during vehicle production and testing."
Не смотря на сдвиг первого пилотируемого полета на февраль 2018 в Боинг считают, что они будут первыми.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 13.05.2016 14:45:27
С одной стороны жаль конечно. С другой стороны нельзя не порадоваться за наш Союз, продолжающий и дальше таскать на орбиту американских и европейских астронавтов. Скорее всего это приведет к дальнейшим контрактам НАСА с Роскосмосом на перевозку астронавтов до 2019-20 гг. А с учетом того, что Боинг считает, что будет первым, данные задержки не избежит и Маск. Таким образом можно сказать, что Союз практически десятилетие таскает космонавтов на орбиту в одиночку начиная с 2011 г. и практически половину срока службы станции делает это только он один. А если даже в 2018 г. и состоятся тестовые полеты с астронавтами у Боинга и Маска - это не означает, что американцы начнут регулярные экспедиции к МКС в 2019 г.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Валерий Жилинский от 15.05.2016 08:37:56
ЦитатаApollo13 пишет:
Не смотря на сдвиг первого пилотируемого полета на февраль 2018 в Боинг считают, что они будут первыми.
Пусть считает.
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
А с учетом того, что Боинг считает, что будет первым, данные задержки не избежит и Маск.
Поживём - увидим.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Андрей Иванов от 15.05.2016 10:51:03
Чему надо срочно учится у американцев это качеству подачи информации о своих возможных планах и мечтах...
Особенно в рисование красочных компьютерных мультфильмов о том как быстро и далеко они полетят в космос.
В виртуальный век, красочно разрисованные планы растиражированные в интернете, приносят порой пользы не меньше, чем реальные успехи.
 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Василий Ратников от 15.05.2016 07:26:19
ЦитатаАндрей Иванов пишет:
В виртуальный век, красочно разрисованные планы растиражированные в интернете, приносят порой пользы не меньше, чем реальные успехи
Пропаганда тогда работает когда базируется на правде (хотя бы частично) и прошлых успехах.
 
Например планы про базу на луне в 2015 никакой пользы не принесли, ибо кроме контуженных ура-патриотов никто в эти бредни не верил.
Урок номер раз - правдоподобие.
 
Репутация и прошлые успехи - когда нам говорят наше все это марс, нет луна, нет не луна. То в этой чехарде планов и их отмен репутация пустых трепачей. И любые красивые картинки от этих людей кроме ржача не вызывают, и расходятся на демотиваторы "ну тупые".
Урок номер два - репутация.
 
У Боинга с CST-100 все вроде не плохо, есть ощущение реальности сроков +пару лет задержки, есть репутация крупного производителя спутников, РН Дельта чей вариант на пока самая мощный из летающих. По этому их картинки имеют эффект. А картинки от создателей Фобос-в-грунт и групповых запусков глонассов подводу не особо. Как это полечить ? Легко 1) реальные пусть и не большие успехи. 2) реальность обещания +-лапоть 3) последовательность обещаний.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 15.05.2016 11:42:43
ЦитатаАндрей Иванов пишет:
Чему надо срочно учится у американцев это качеству подачи информации о своих возможных планах и мечтах...
Особенно в рисование красочных компьютерных мультфильмов о том как быстро и далеко они полетят в космос.
В виртуальный век, красочно разрисованные планы растиражированные в интернете, приносят порой пользы не меньше, чем реальные успехи.
учится надо "качеству подачи информации" по реальным событиям.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Василий Ратников от 15.05.2016 08:05:07
pnetmon,  интернет бойцы свои бои с дивана ведут в виртуальном пространстве слил-не-слил. Из за этого у них повреждается мозг и они начинают оценивать победы в реальном мире по "троллингу" "сливам" "демотиваторам".

Как пример как они радовали речам свиномордого про батут -"ыыыы уел ненавистных пиндосов"
А в реальной жизни что ?
Мы как продавали так и продаем "ненавистным пиндосам" РД-180 и они свое спутники слежения за нами запускают.
В США у сторонников SpX появились козыри, а ВВС и УЛА оказались в луже.
Была резко ускорена программа двигателезамещения.
 
Но у идиотов радости полные штаны "как наш то знатно потролил !".

Вот они и мечтают о всеобщей победе в виртуальности путем правильного рендеренга роликов на пиндоский ютуб как ракеты от роскосмоса покоряют вселенную.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 15.05.2016 08:10:47
Вы бы  ругаться подзаборно перестали бы. Все же не в кабаке а в приличном месте.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 16.05.2016 06:37:48
с 1 июня я смогу высказать про CTS-100 все что думаю. пока нельзя
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 16.05.2016 10:03:33
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
с 1 июня я смогу высказать про CTS-100 все что думаю. пока нельзя
Заинтриговал...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 16.05.2016 12:36:17
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
с 1 июня я смогу высказать про CTS-100 все что думаю. пока нельзя
Контракт заканчивается? Ну подождем, недолго осталось...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 16.05.2016 11:59:52
ЦитатаВасилий Ратников пишет:
А картинки от создателей Фобос-в-грунт и групповых запусков глонассов подводу не особо. Как это полечить ?
Картинки от создателей  Astro-H Вам нравятся больше? Запуски OCO и Glory были не под воду? В лечении они не нуждаются?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 17.05.2016 11:25:19
НУ вот что и требовалось доказать http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/31194/
Боинг в пролете, очевидно СПэйс Икс тоже. Реальная эксплуатация начнется только после 2020-го года.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 17.05.2016 22:59:58
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
НУ вот что и требовалось доказать
Да ничего это не доказывает. Перестраховываются просто на случай чего. Деньги-то по этому контракту все равно будут по факту платиться, не будут летать - не будут платить...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: napalm от 18.05.2016 00:36:04
Из новости не очень понятно - это сумма за шестерых или за каждого?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 18.05.2016 02:57:55
Цитатаnapalm пишет:
Из новости не очень понятно - это сумма за шестерых или за каждого?
Сумма-то 87-88 миллионов долларов всего лишь... Если это за всех - то выходит, что цена упала резче чем на Протон...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: napalm от 18.05.2016 16:33:45
Тааак-с, новость уже поменяли. Теперь речь о сумме, которую ОРКК заплатит "Энергии"..
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 19.05.2016 10:06:27
Цитатаnapalm пишет:
Тааак-с, новость уже поменяли. Теперь речь о сумме, которую ОРКК заплатит "Энергии"..
Теперь вообще не понятно, за что эти деньги...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 23.05.2016 19:08:44
Цитата https://www.nasa.gov/feature/simulators-give-astronauts-glimpse-of-future-flights
Simulators Give Astronauts Glimpse of Future Flights
April 27, 2016

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Astronauts Suni WIlliams and Eric Boe evaluate part-task trainers for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner at the company's St. Louis facility.
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NASA selected Bob Behnken, Doug Hurley, Boe and Williams in July to train for test flights aboard the Starliner ‎and SpaceX Crew Dragon to the International Space Station. The flight assignments have not been set, so all four of the astronauts are rehearsing for the Starliner and Crew Dragon test flights to the space station.
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Later, a simulator the size of a Starliner flight deck will be finished and used in Houston to train the full-flight crew.
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A training engineer evaluates part of the simulator system for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner as astronaut Suni Williams performs mission profiles in crew section.
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Astronaut Eric Boe runs mission scenarios in a Boeing part-task trainer that simulates CST-100 Starliner missions like those that will be flown for NASA's Commercial Crew Program.
https://youtu.be/uIsn-EGs1p4 (https://youtu.be/uIsn-EGs1p4) https://youtu.be/uIsn-EGs1p4
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 23.05.2016 15:14:54
Ну очень glass cockpit ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 23.05.2016 19:15:25
Это эмуляция - тумблера и кнопки будут   :D  

p.s. ранее тренажеры мелькнули тут http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12270/message1460616/#message1460616
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.05.2016 20:56:54
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  4 ч.4 часа назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/735110713119768576)  
Lisa Colloredo, CCP associate manager at KSC, touts program's cost effectiveness.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: SFN от 24.05.2016 17:02:31
цена для американцев с учетом пошлин ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.05.2016 21:23:54
В основном преимущество четырёхчленного экипажа перед трёхчленным.
И остаётся вопрос включены ли в стоимость у американцев поисково-спасательные операции.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.05.2016 21:33:05
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean) 3 ч.3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/735124195525464064)
Former NASA astronaut Scott Altman asks if rockets have any abort black zones during ascent. Boeing, SpaceX both say no. #SpaceCongress2016 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceCongress2016?src=hash)
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  4 ч.4 часа назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/735115282792878081)  
Boeing's presentation in Commercial Crew panel includes no target dates. #SpaceCongress2016 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceCongress2016?src=hash)

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  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  5 ч.5 часов назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/735099777734479875)  
Cabana: Hope Boeing, SpaceX flying test flights in 2017, contracted flights 2018. [Boeing has already said '18] #SpaceCongress2016 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceCongress2016?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Pirat5 от 24.05.2016 23:30:46
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
В основном преимущество четырёхчленного экипажа перед трёхчленным.
4места*58М$ ~=3 места*81М$. На US кораблях просто 4й летит бесплатно.

ЦитатаИ остаётся вопрос включены ли в стоимость у американцев поисково-спасательные операции.
Хороший вопрос.
Но исходя из мысли "а нужны ли им  поисково-спасательные операции" для конкурентной цены - может получиться отрицательный ответ. Вероятно это за доп.плату.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.05.2016 23:50:06
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  3 ч.3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/735168287676497920)  
ULA's Tony Taliancich says crew access arm will be installed this summer on tower at LC41. #SpaceCongress2016 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceCongress2016?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 16.06.2016 12:25:18
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/2016-advances-mark-commercial-crews-path-to-flight-0
ЦитатаJune 15, 2016
 2016 Advances Mark Commercial Crew's Path to Flight
 
By Steven Siceloff ,
NASA's Kennedy Space Center, Florida
Hundreds of engineers and technicians with NASA, Boeing, and SpaceX have ramped up to complete the final designs, manufacturing, and testing as they continue the vital, but meticulous work to prepare to launch astronauts to the International Space Station.
Halfway through the pivotal 2016 year, the companies building the next generation of human-rated spacecraft and launch vehicles are testing systems in more demanding, flight-like environments. Boeing and SpaceX are manufacturing the systems that will return America's human launch capability, while they simultaneously build and modify launch facilities, and complete mission simulators. All while continuing to test and refine their designs, and analyze the results to ensure they are meeting NASA's requirements.
"We knew 2016 would be a critical year as Boeing and SpaceX build qualification and flight hardware, and test the integrated systems to ensure the rockets and spacecraft function as designed," said Kathy Lueders, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program. "Their careful design, analysis and early prototype testing during the last several years has put us on the right course, and now we are excited to see flight hardware coming together. The companies are excited, too, but we know there are many steps ahead to successfully and safely complete these flight tests and begin operational missions to the International Space Station."
Boeing is building the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft, which will launch fr om Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida on United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rockets.
"Our spacecraft design is in firm configuration, teams are conducting about one component qualification test per week and Starliner crew and service modules are coming together in Florida," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing's Commercial Programs. "It's an exciting time to be a part of American human spaceflight and we're looking forward to our first flight in 2017."
SpaceX is independently building its Crew Dragon to launch on the company's Falcon 9 rockets fr om Launch Pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
"There's a lot of work to do, and we're making great progress," said Benjamin Reed, director of Commercial Crew Mission Management at SpaceX. "We're excited to return America's crew carrying capability and are on track to complete a number of important milestones on the path to flying astronauts next year."
The systems that will go into each spacecraft - such as avionics, flight computers, life support, communications and numerous others - are being tested individually and in complex networks to make sure they don't interfere with each other.
A pool at NASA's Langley Research Center in Virginia was the site for simulated contingency water landings for Boeing's Starliner. The testing enabled Boeing and NASA engineers to evaluate the capsule's six perimeter airbags and uprighting capabilities. Starliner missions will normally land on land, so the same Starliner mockup will be dropped at another Langley facility to qualify the vehicle for land landings.
Later this year, Boeing will test parachute components to be used on Starliner flights, in a series of progressively more flight-like drop tests, including high-altitude boilerplate releases fr om balloons.
SpaceX has begun a campaign of parachute tests in which weight simulators with Crew Dragon parachutes and connectors are dropped fr om airplanes to determine their deployment behavior. Engineers use the results to feed computer models that can evaluate different deployment conditions and indicate whether the hardware will work as designed in a host of flight conditions, including aborts. The tests will continue throughout this year and next, growing more complex and verifying the safety and reliability of the system.
Boeing's reaction control system thrusters - the small jets that maneuver the spacecraft in orbit - and the launch abort engines that would push a Starliner and its crew out of danger in an emergency also are being prepped for qualification tests before the systems are installed for flights. Simultaneously, a 12-foot-long, 600-plus-pound Starliner/Atlas V wind tunnel model equipped with hundreds of sensors is providing engineers with high-fidelity dynamic and static pressure data the vehicle will experience during ascent.
Once the 2016 work has been completed, NASA and its partners will stand on the verge of conducting the first human-rated spaceflights to launch fr om American soil in six years. The teams at NASA, Boeing and SpaceX understand that the finish line for development is near, but they are keeping a close eye on every detailed step along the way.
Momentum Gains in Manufacturing, Launch Facilities
Manufacturing facilities are in operation on the east and west coasts to build the next generation of spacecraft to return human launch capability to American soil. Over the past six months, Boeing and SpaceX - the companies partnered with NASA to transport astronauts to and from the International Space Station - each have begun producing the first in a series of spacecraft.
Rather than building one Boeing CST-100 Starliner or SpaceX Crew Dragon at a time, each company set out to produce several spacecraft in an assembly-line fashion while maintaining the careful attention to detail and inspections required of any spacecraft, particularly those that will carry astronauts into orbit.
NASA's Commercial Crew Program partners are building and testing components across the United States as prototype spacecraft and flight test vehicles are carefully assembled. Subsystems for the operational missions are coming together, as spacecraft and rocket assembly lines gear up for production.
In Florida, wh ere Boeing is constructing Starliners, engineers have assembled the crew module of the Structural Test Article that will be shipped to Huntington Beach, California, wh ere it will join the previously delivered service module for extensive testing under a host of exhaustive conditions. The two main elements of the first flight-like Starliner - the upper and lower pressure domes - inside the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida are undergoing early check outs and assembly before they are joined together for environmental qualification tests and the pad abort test.
SpaceX is welding the pressure vessels for four Crew Dragons, two test articles and two flight vehicles in the company's Hawthorne, California, factory. The next six months are expected to see each of the pressure vessels built up to different stages for structural and subsystem testing followed by uncrewed and crew flight tests known as Demo 1 and Demo 2 for "Demonstration Mission."
The launch facilities for both companies are deep into their modifications and construction. The Crew Access Tower on Space Launch Complex 41, at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida, is in place and the Crew Access Arm astronauts will use to cross from the tower to the Starliner hatch will be transported to the pad for placement on the tower this summer. Additionally, about 25,000 lines of software code have been written for the rocket and launch site to communicate with all the new crew-specific hardware. All the work has been completed while still allowing launches of the United Launch Alliance Atlas V from the launch pad.
At historic Launch Pad 39A at Kennedy, wh ere Apollo and space shuttle missions began, SpaceX is taking down the rotating service structure designed to handle shuttle payloads. They've also removed more than 500,000 pounds of steel from the fixed service structure and are building shielding around the tower to protect from the blast of the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets. Its Crew Access Arm also is under construction and is slated to be installed on the tower later this year.
Numerous readiness reviews, which assemble engineers from NASA and the respective company, will be held throughout development before the launch sites are used for the first time to launch astronauts.
Astronauts Contribute Vital Feedback in Spacecraft Designs
NASA astronauts are working closely with commercial partners Boeing and SpaceX to analyze designs, try out spacecraft simulators and prepare for missions to the International Space Station. Bob Behnken, Eric Boe, Doug Hurley and Suni Williams, the four astronauts sel ected to train for Commercial Crew Program flight tests, routinely visit both companies' facilities across the country to examine progress up-close (http://www.nasa.gov/feature/simulators-give-astronauts-glimpse-of-future-flights) and practice all aspects of a mission to the station.
The commercial crew astronauts work side-by-side with Boeing and SpaceX engineers to evaluate their systems and trainers as they each prepare to return launches to the International Space Station from American soil. They have performed fit checks in mockup spacecraft, assessed the spacecraft's display panel and controls among numerous other systems.
Behnken and Boe joined flight director Richard Jones and his NASA/Boeing flight control team June 7 in the first Mission Control Center on-console simulation of a Starliner launch, climb to orbit and post-orbital insertion timeline. The ascent simulation included a training team inserting problems remotely from a nearby building, which allowed the control team to follow checklists and procedures to solve issues that could arise during a dynamic, real-flight situation.
Other astronauts not assigned to train for Commercial Crew flight tests also work with the teams of engineers on everything fr om simulators and spacesuits to component designs. With two new spacecraft in development, there are plenty of evaluations served by astronauts' expertise. Anne McClain, for example, joined a team of astronauts and engineers to practice exiting the SpaceX Crew Dragon mockup through the top hatch as well as using the side hatch. The work is common in assessing spacecraft design.
Boeing completed a set of trainers in late April that will be a cornerstone of astronaut and crew training throughout the CST-100 Starliner's life. Paired with instructor stations, the trainers are complex simulators outfitted with controls like those on real Starliners and designed to perform for the astronauts just as the spacecraft will in flight. The trainers will be housed in Building 5 at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. The company also is constructing a full-size mission simulator identical to a Starliner flight deck. It also will be fully integrated with NASA's Mission Control Center simulators at Johnson, Boeing's Space Training, Analysis, and Review Facility in Houston, also known as STAR, and International Space Station simulator to allow full mission practices for the astronauts, as well as launch and mission instructors and flight controllers.
SpaceX expects its spacesuit design to go through qualification testing this year and be ready for use in 2017. Just as with the spacecraft, the numerous components for the suits will be tested separately and then as a complete unit to make sure they will work as needed during a mission, potentially saving an astronaut in an unlikely emergency scenario. 
Although launch systems and orbital operations get a substantial amount of review and oversight, the landing phases of the missions and abort scenarios also undergo intense scrutiny.
While the development work focuses on the spacecraft, rockets, and ground systems, there also are important steps being taken in space wh ere astronauts continue to live and work daily on the space station. The space station advances scientific knowledge in Earth, space, physical and biological sciences for the benefits of people living on our home planet. These new spacecraft will be able to carry up-to four astronauts to the station, bringing the crew size to seven. This will allow the crew to double the amount of time they have to conduct microgravity research.
Working outside the station during spacewalks, astronauts have routed more than 800 feet of cable along the station complex to provide power and data to the commercial crew spacecraft when they are docked at the orbiting laboratory. Next month, a cargo resupply mission is scheduled to deliver an International Docking Adapter, built by Boeing and launched by SpaceX, to the space station wh ere it will be connected to a port so both Starliners or Crew Dragons can dock with the orbiting laboratory. The connection of the docking adapter will require at least one more spacewalk this summer. A second adapter will be delivered and connected to the station on a future SpaceX cargo resupply mission.
The station crew also activated one of the two radios they will use to talk to the astronauts inside the Commercial Crew spacecraft as they near the orbiting laboratory. The communications will be vital to tracking the progress of rendezvous and docking operations along with the flight of the two spacecraft when they are near each other.
The astronauts who fly into orbit aboard commercial crew spacecraft will do so in the seats of the most automated ships built for crew thus far. But even with those expectations, the teams of engineers and potential crew members are working hard to operate the systems efficiently and be able to take over effectively if manual control is needed.

https://youtu.be/tIZxZMP7vNk (https://youtu.be/tIZxZMP7vNk)

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The SpaceX parachute system for its Crew Dragon spacecraft is evaluated in drop tests.
Credits: SpaceX
 
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Astronaut Suni Williams evaluates Starliner control systems using a part-task trainer that simulates aspects of flight for the Boeing-made spacecraft.
Credits: NASA/Dimitri Gerondidakis
 
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Astronauts Bob Behnken and Eric Boe work with Mission Control teams in a simulation of mission operations for a Starliner flight.
Credits: NASA
 
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SpaceX is modifying Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy Space Center to transform the former shuttle launch pad for use by Crew Dragon spacecraft that will launch into orbit on Falcon 9 rockets.
Credits: NASa/Dimitri Gerondidakis
 
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Boeing and United Launch Alliance constructed a Crew Access Tower at Space Launch Complex 41 to give astronauts access to the Starliner spacecraft as it stands atop an Atlas V rocket for liftoff.
Credits: NASA/Charles Bake
 
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A mockup of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner splashes into a water tank at NASA's Langley Research Center in Virginia during landing system testing.
Credits: NASA Langley
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Александр от 16.06.2016 14:21:21
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
с 1 июня я смогу высказать про CTS-100 все что думаю. пока нельзя
ну и?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 16.06.2016 17:08:38
ну как бы я не удивлюсь, если они еще какие-то сроки продинамят или сорвут вообще все к чертям. старые фирмы уже не годны ни на что
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.06.2016 06:06:17
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/584065468337623040/eVtOSdRl_bigger.jpg) Eric Berger Подлинная учетная запись ‏@SciGuySpace  (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace)  
The consoles of Starliner (left) and Dragon v2 seem to reflect the digital divide between traditional and new space.
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  14:39 - 22 июн. 2016 г.  
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 24.06.2016 08:32:32
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
Eric Berger Подлинная учетная запись ‏@ SciGuySpace
Ну зачем эту каку сюда тащить. У спайсов другой пульт и уже давно.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Валерий Жилинский от 02.07.2016 14:48:48
Воинг открыл свой центр подготовки астронавтов для полётов на Старлайнере.

Boeing Opens Starliner Training Center (http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/06/30/boeing-opens-starliner-training-center/)
   
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/06/30/boeing-opens-starliner-training-center/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.07.2016 21:45:29
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  
Updated timeline of major commercial crew milestones. SpaceX certification review Oct 2017; Boeing in May 2018.
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  7:10 - 25 июл. 2016 г.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 26.07.2016 17:16:47
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  1 ч.1 час назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/757922475988713472)  
Inside former OPF-3 at KSC, now Boeing's "C3PF" for CST-100 Starliner commercial crew capsule assembly.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 26.07.2016 19:54:41
Цитата
Boeing Debuts Modernized High Bay at Kennedy
Posted on [url=https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/07/26/boeing-debuts-modernized-high-bay-at-kennedy/]July 26, 2016 at 12:06 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/07/26/boeing-debuts-modernized-high-bay-at-kennedy/[/url) by Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/).(http://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/wp-content/uploads/sites/230/2016/07/KSC-20160726-PH_KLS01_0225.jpg)
Boeing on Tuesday unveiled its clean-floor facility that serves as the hub for its CST-100 Starliner spacecraft as they are manufactured and prepared for flight to and fr om the International Space Station, and wh ere they'll refurbished between missions. The high bay in the company's Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility, formerly known as Orbiter Processing Facility 3, is now modernized and ready to support the Starliner program.

It was once filled with about 1,000 tons of steel work platforms that enshrouded the space shuttle orbiters as they were refurbished and prepared for flight. Today, the facility contains several pieces of hardware and a mock-up that are key to Boeing's and NASA's efforts to launch astronauts from Florida's Space Coast through the Commercial Crew Program.

(Photo credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 31.07.2016 10:56:45
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/aerojet-rocketdyne/starliner-spacecraft-engines-successfully-hot-fire-tested/
ЦитатаStarliner spacecraft engines successfully hot-fire tested
Tomasz Nowakowski
July 27th, 2016
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One of three Reaction Control System engines for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner recently completed hot-fire testing at NASA's White Sands Test Facility in New Mexico. Photo Credit: Aerojet Rocketdyne
 
Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft is one step closer to carrying astronauts to space from American soil as its engines have recently undergone a series of hot-fire development tests. The tests were carried out by Aerojet Rocketdyne (http://rocket.com/) at NASA's White Sands Test Facility in New Mexico.
The three Reaction Control System (RCS) engines successfully hot-fired are part of the spacecraft's service module propulsion system, being currently developed by Aerojet Rocketdyne. The Sacramento, California-based rocket propulsion manufacturer announced on Monday, July 25 (http://rocket.com/article/aerojet-rocketdyne-successfully-completes-hot-fire-tests-engines-designed-support-new-era), each RCS engine was tested up to 4,000 pulses and 1,600 seconds. According to the company, it was the longest accumulated time ever conducted on a lightweight thruster with a composite chamber.
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Artist depiction of CST-100 Starliner in orbit above Earth. Image Credit: Boeing
 
"The successful RCS engine tests demonstrated durability and long operational life capabilities meeting the Starliner requirements for composite thrust chambers, which are crucial to mission success and astronaut safety," Aerojet Rocketdyne CEO and President Eileen Drake said in a press release (http://rocket.com/article/aerojet-rocketdyne-successfully-completes-hot-fire-tests-engines-designed-support-new-era). "We look forward to qualifying the engines and continuing our nation's legacy of delivering humans into space."
The RCS engines are designed to provide on-orbit maneuvering functions, as well as re-boost capabilities for the space station. Under its Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) subcontract to Boeing, Aerojet Rocketdyne is responsible for the design, development, qualification, certification and initial production of the Starliner's service module propulsion system, including the development and testing of 28 100-pound thrust class RCS engines.
The spacecraft's service module propulsion system will be necessary for Starliner's activities during a nominal flight to the International Space Station (ISS). It will provide all propulsion needs required for launch vehicle separation, docking and undocking from the ISS, as well as separation of the crew and service modules during the re-entry into Earth's atmosphere. The system will also provide integrated launch abort capability on the pad and during ascent.
"Aerojet Rocketdyne is leveraging adaptations of proven hardware and technologies to deliver an affordable reliable propulsion system that can be counted on to perform throughout the spacecraft's mission and ensure the safety of the astronauts and success of the mission," Terry Lorier, Aerojet Rocketdyne's CST-100 service module propulsion system program manager, said in November 2015 (http://www.rocket.com/article/aerojet-rocketdyne-signs-contract-support-new-era-human-spaceflight-america).
Boeing's CST-100 Starliner is 16.5 feet (5.03 meters) long and 15 feet (4.56 meters) in diameter. It can carry up to seven passengers, or a mix of crew and cargo to ISS. The spacecraft is designed to remain on-orbit for up to seven months with reusability of up to ten missions.
First uncrewed orbital test flight of the Starliner spacecraft is currently scheduled for December 2017. The capsule will carry its first two astronauts to ISS in February 2018.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 03.08.2016 00:42:02
http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/02/boeing-nears-fix-for-cst-100-starliner-design-hitch/
ЦитатаBoeing nears fix for CST-100 Starliner design hitch             
 August 2, 2016 (http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/) Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)
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The pressure hull for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner structural test article sits inside a repurposed space shuttle hangar at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida in this July 25 photo. Credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett

Boeing says engineers are resolving concerns with the mass and aerodynamic shape of the company's CST-100 Starliner commercial crew carrier, and officials are optimistic the spaceship will be ready to deliver astronauts to the International Space Station in early 2018.
"If everything goes well, we'll meet schedule," said Chris Ferguson, a former space shuttle astronaut and deputy program manager for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft, in a recent interview with Spaceflight Now. "It's the unknown unknowns (we're concerned about), but we're optimistic."
According to Ferguson, Boeing engineers are wrapping up analyses of two design concerns that combined to trigger a delay in the first CST-100 crewed test flight fr om late 2017 until February 2018.
One issue involved the mass of the crew capsule, which outgrew the lift capability of the United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket sel ected to put it into orbit.
The CST-100 Starliner will ride an Atlas 5 rocket with two solid rocket boosters and a dual-engine Centaur upper stage, and although Boeing and ULA engineers considered adding a third strap-on motor to compensate for the capsule's extra weight, managers now have the spacecraft back under its mass allowance, Ferguson said.
"There's a certain percentage below the lift capability of the Atlas 5 we were aiming for, and then there are natural margins with mass growth allowances that you always put in, just in case you get some surprises at the last minute," Ferguson said.
"We've identified all the necessary items that will get us back below the line for mass," Ferguson said. "Of course, when you go do that kind of work you have to go back and revisit some of the drawings and some of the designs. I'd say about half of it came pretty easy. The other half was a challenge. but we've got an engineering solution for all the fixes needed to get us back underneath the line."
Ferguson said Boeing has a model of the Atlas 5 rocket and CST-100 Starliner in a wind tunnel to verify a change to capsule's outer shape devised to overcome higher-than-expected aerodynamic launch loads discovered in testing.
"They had one issue, a non-linear aerodynamic loads issue, where they were getting some high acoustic loads right behind the spacecraft," said Phil McAlister, head of NASA's commercial spaceflight development office in Washington.
Atlas 5 rockets carrying the Boeing crew ship will encounter different aerodynamic and acoustic environments than on normal satellite launches. The CST-100 Starliner will not fly inside a nose shroud on top of the Atlas 5, as other payloads do.
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Artist's concept of a CST-100 Starliner capsule on top of an Atlas 5 rocket. Credit: Boeing

"They're in the final phase of some wind tunnel testing," McAlister told members of the NASA Advisory Council's human spaceflight subcommittee last week. "They think they've got a good solution by putting on an extended skirt behind the capsule. We think that's a pretty good solution, too, but we really want to see some of that final wind tunnel test data come through."
Nevertheless, Ferguson said he was happy to have a solution for the mass and aerodynamic issues.
"I think we've got them under control," Ferguson told Spaceflight Now. "The good news is there are no additional large problems that have arisen in the last six months, so maybe we're at the point wh ere we've investigated everything, and we finally have a design we're confident in."
Inside the CST-100 assembly facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, technicians are finishing work on a structural test article of the craft's weld-less crew module and readying it for shipment across the country to a Boeing site in Huntington Beach, California.
Engineers there will add the spacecraft's outer skin and heat shield.
"It's really going to start looking like a spaceship when it gets out there," Ferguson said. "It will be out there until late this year going through a series of shock and vibration (tests)."
Meanwhile, components of the first flight-worthy CST-100 spaceship are arriving at KSC for assembly of a capsule destined to fly on a pad abort test next year. That capsule is dubbed the qualification test vehicle, and it will be the first Starliner unit to include the avionics, computers and many of the other systems needed for flight.
The qualification capsule will not have the environmental control and life support systems required to support human passengers, Ferguson said.
"The avionics, the items that have to go through qualification, the pumps and fans, they start showing up here in late summer, and then we'll integrate them into the first spacecraft that we fire up and see how it performs as an integrated system," Ferguson said.
The first power-up of a CST-100 spaceship on the ground is expected late this year, with tests continuing into 2017.
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Chris Ferguson, director of CST-100 crew and mission operations, talks with NASA sstronaut Megan McArthur during a visit to Advanced Scientific Concepts in Santa Barbara, California, which is building 3D Flash Light Detection and Ranging sensors for Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft. Credit: Boeing

"Hopefully, if everything goes well, it's just a matter of following the instructions that we set forth to assemble the remaining two which will become the Orbital Flight Test and Crewed Flight Test vehicles," Ferguson said, referring to the spaceships that will launch on Boeing's unpiloted and piloted demo flights.
The CST-100 qualification unit is not expected to fly into space, but Ferguson said Boeing has the ability to upgrade it for orbital missions if required.
Qualifying each CST-100 component, both individually and at the full spacecraft level, is one of the big jobs on the Boeing team's docket, and that work does not get the attention of a flight test.
"We've got about 200 avionics boxes that need to go through their own level of qualification," Ferguson said. "That qualification is done at the vendor. What we do is we being all the systems together, so they all sing, and then we say, 'Hey, I'm happy with the way this subsystem works -- the electrical system or the environment system.'"
Officials from SpaceX, NASA's other commercial crew transportation provider, have been less public about the problems, if any, it has encountered in the Crew Dragon program, but NASA officials said they are happy with both contractors.
A Crew Dragon test article has been subjected to structural loads tests this summer to ensure it can withstand the stresses of spaceflight.
The Crew Dragon's second "delta critical design review," a major milestone to clean up lingering design issues, is due to wrap up in late August or early September, McAlister said.
Other major SpaceX milestones coming soon include a full-up test of the Crew Dragon's life support system, activation of KSC's launch pad 39A for Falcon rocket flights, and qualification of the capsule's unique four-parachute landing system.
McAlister said schedules proposed by Boeing and SpaceX, the two companies tapped by the agency end U.S. reliance on Russia's Soyuz spacecraft, are "optimistic but achievable."
SpaceX currently targets August 2017 for the first piloted test flight of its Crew Dragon capsule, according to internal NASA schedule documents, while Boeing's similar demo mission with two astronauts is set for February 2018.
NASA plans to conduct a major review of the test flights a few months after each mission -- in October 2017 for SpaceX and May 2018 for Boeing -- before formally certifying the spacecraft for regular crew rotation sorties to the International Space Station.
One of NASA's concerns with SpaceX's crew program has been the introduction of an upgraded, higher-thrust version of the Falcon 9 rocket. The new configuration burns a super-chilled mixture of rocket-grade kerosene and liquid oxygen.
Stored at colder temperatures than normal, the modified propellant mix allows more fuel and oxidizer to fit into the Falcon 9 and gives its Merlin engines more thrust, boosting the rocket's lift capacity.
But the cryogenic propellant must be loaded aboard the rocket in the final half-hour of the countdown to keep it from heating up in the warm ambient temperatures of Central Florida. Rockets are normally fueled several hours before launch.
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In this June photo, the first test article of a SpaceX Crew Dragon undergoes structural load testing to demonstrate the spacecraft's ability to withstand the tremendous forces it's exposed to during spaceflight. The backbone of Crew Dragon is a metallic welded pressure vessel. SpaceX has completed manufacturing of the first two pressure vessels to be used for ground testing, and is currently manufacturing two Crew Dragon flight articles. Credit: SpaceX

The change means astronauts will board the Crew Dragon capsule on top of the Falcon 9 rocket before fueling, and the SpaceX launch team will pump propellants into the two-stage launcher once the crew members are strapped in their seats.
NASA officials were at first uncomfortable with SpaceX's proposal to load fuel with the astronauts on-board -- Soyuz and shuttle crews strapped in once the rockets were already fueled -- but McAlister said managers are getting accustomed to the plan.
SpaceX had trouble with handling the super-chilled propellants on the first couple of flights of the upgraded Falcon 9, prompting a series of aborts and scrubs during attempts to launch a commercial SES television broadcasting satellite in February.
"We're getting better data about that, and quite frankly SpaceX is getting better about how to handle that," McAlister said. "I think we are getting more comfortable with it, but we're not ready to say we're good. We're still working through that."
McAlister said Boeing and SpaceX, which signed crew transportation contracts with NASA in 2014 worth $4.2 billion and $2.6 billion, respectively, are "grinding" through their development steps.
"This is the real tough work," McAlister said. "I think, with commercial crew in the early years, most of the focus was on the policy. I believe most of those discussions have been concluded, and now we're in the blocking and tackling phase of the program."
Interactions between NASA and contractor teams have been fruitful, said Bill Gerstenmaier, head of NASA's human exploration and operations mission directorate.
"There's good push and pull both ways," Gerstenmaier said, as NASA, Boeing and SpaceX sift through paperwork to ensure both capsules conform with the space agency's stringent human-rating standards.
Despite SpaceX's schedule, which could allow for operational crew flights by the end of 2017 if achieved, NASA says it will not count on the new commercial spacecraft being ready to send up residents to the space station until some time in 2018.
"We're probably about halfway through, maybe a little bit more than halfway through, the development and hope to be completing both partners in the early part of '18," McAlister said.
NASA has purchased seats for U.S., European, Japanese and Canadian astronauts to launch on Russian Soyuz capsules through 2018, with return trips continuing into mid-2019.
McAlister said that the agency is cognizant of the uncertainty in the commercial crew schedule, and when NASA needs to sign an agreement to purchase more Soyuz seats if required.
Members of the committee raised concerns about the urgency of a decision by NASA to buy more Soyuz seats. Wayne Hale, interim chairman of the advisory council's human exploration and operations subcommittee, suggested NASA had to decide by the end of the year whether to procure Soyuz rides for its astronauts in 2019.
McAlister said he is aware of the dilemma.
NASA has ordered four full-up crew rotation flights -- two each fr om Boeing and SpaceX -- but has not set target launch dates or determined which company will fly station crews first. Each mission is baselined to fly with four passengers, ferrying them to the space station and then returning them to Earth about a half-year later.
"The future availability of Soyuz is not certain, so we're going to continue to monitor that," McAlister told the subcommittee July 26. "I think we've got some (schedule) margin today, so our partners are not feeling a lot of schedule pressure, (but) we want to make them schedule-aware.
"We like having that Soyuz backup, but how we introduce the Soyuz vehicle into that flow is something we're going to have to be very careful about," McAlister said.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 08.08.2016 15:50:04
http://ria.ru/science/20160808/1473823247.html
ЦитатаВ США начали сборку частного пилотируемого космического корабля Starliner

13:03 08.08.2016
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МОСКВА, 8 авг -- РИА Новости. Американское космическое агентство НАСА и авиаконцерн Boeing начали сборку первого пилотируемого космического корабля Starliner в космическом центре имени Кеннеди в США, сообщает специализированное издание Universe Today (http://www.universetoday.com/129356/boeing-starts-assembly-of-1st-flightworthy-starliner-crew-taxi-vehicle-at-kennedy-spaceport/).
"Вы можете видеть начало сборки первого космического аппарата. Все необходимые для постройки элементы конструкции уже здесь", -- приводятся в сообщении слова вице-президента и руководителя программы Boeing Commercial Джона Малхолланда.
Он отметил, что начало строительства второго корабля серии намечено на осень. Приступить к сборке третьего корабля специалисты Boeing должны в начале 2017 года.
 Испытания системы аварийного прекращения предстартовых операций космического корабля намечены на октябрь. Первый непилотируемый испытательный орбитальный полет Starliner должен состояться в декабре 2017 года, пилотируемый орбитальный полет - в феврале 2018 года.
Boeing CST 100 Starliner вместе с космическим аппаратом Dragon компании SpaceX является одним из двух частных пилотируемых космических кораблей, которые разрабатываются в рамках договора коммерческого партнерства с НАСА.
После завершения программы космических челноков НАСА в 2011 году США используют российские "Союзы" для доставки астронавтов на МКС. Контракт на разработку нового пилотируемого космического корабля на сумму в 4,2 миллиарда долларов Boeing получил в 2014 году.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 12.08.2016 06:27:12
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/64747)

ЦитатаA heavy-lift transport truck, carrying the Crew Access Arm for Space Launch Complex 41, travels along the road toward Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. The arm will be installed on the Complex 41 Crew Access Tower. It will be used as a bridge by astronauts to board Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft as it stands on the launch pad atop a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.08.2016 13:39:45
http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/13/video-gantry-swing-arm-arrives-at-atlas-5-pad-for-astronauts-to-board-starliners/                 
ЦитатаVideo: Gantry swing arm arrives at Atlas 5 pad for astronauts to board Starliners             
 August 13, 2016 (http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/) Justin Ray (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/justin-sfn-ray/)
 
Constructing the launch pad infrastructure for astronauts to board Boeing's Starliner crew capsules atop United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rockets, workers delivered the Crew Access Arm with its White Room to Cape Canaveral's Complex 41 on Thursday, Aug. 11.
It was built in Oak Hill, just north of the Kennedy Space Center.
The 42-foot-long swing arm will be hoisted onto the new 200-foot-tall crew tower and attached next week. Work to build the crew accommodations have been underway for just over a year, occurring around the busy Atlas 5 launch schedule.
Starliner is scheduled to make its first crewed test flight to the International Space Station in early 2018.
Video courtesy of NASA-KSC
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 15.08.2016 19:18:21
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/64800)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 15.08.2016 23:32:51
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/569606309390327808/_78fKWKv_bigger.jpeg) Howard Biegler ‏@Howard_Biegler  (https://twitter.com/Howard_Biegler)
Today marks a major milestone for the Commercial Crew Program. The Crew Access Arm is fully mated to the CAT.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 15.08.2016 23:50:00
Быстро строят. Только что везли и уже установлена.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Leonar от 16.08.2016 06:01:16
ЦитатаСтарый пишет:
Быстро строят. Только что везли и уже установлена.
Это павильон для обеспечения пилотируемых миссий?
 а нашим нужно целую отдельную передвижную башню...с двумя уровнями :cry:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 16.08.2016 07:21:48
ЦитатаLeonar пишет: 
 а нашим нужно целую отдельную передвижную башню...с двумя уровнями  :cry:
У этих тоже башня есть, только стационарная. А передвижной - стартовый стол с ракетой.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.08.2016 13:27:45
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/24/starliner-tested-for-ground-landing-conditions/
ЦитатаStarliner Tested for Ground-Landing Conditions
Posted on August 24, 2016 at 3:35 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/08/24/starliner-tested-for-ground-landing-conditions/) by Steven Siceloff (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/ssicelof/).
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Boeing engineers recently evaluated the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft's ability to withstand the shocks and other challenges of landing on the ground with a series of drop tests at NASA's Langley Research Center in Virginia. Hoisted using a gantry at Langley that's tested everything fr om private planes to the lunar lander of Apollo, a Starliner mockup with a full-size airbag system in place was released from about 30 feet to see how it behaved when contacting the Earth. The airbags have been designed to absorb much of the impact. A nominal Starliner mission, such as those planned to take NASA astronauts to the International Space Station during Commercial Crew Program flights, is to end with the spacecraft touching down on land in the American southwest wh ere ground support teams can more easily reach the spacecraft and crew than if they splashed down in water.
The Starliner was already tested in water-landing scenarios in the same gantry. All the results will be used by Boeing to confirm the designs of the landing systems and by NASA to certify the systems for use during upcoming flight tests without and then with a crew aboard. Rad many more details about the Starliner testing at http://go.nasa.gov/2bFMZZk
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 02.09.2016 10:05:42
NASA'S COMMERCIAL CREW PROGRAM: UPDATE ON DEVELOPMENT AND CERTIFICATION EFFORTS (https://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY16/IG-16-028.pdf) 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 05.09.2016 01:19:01
Boeing Commercial Crew Milestone Status (http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/09/03/boeing-commercial-crew-milestone-status/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 05.09.2016 01:20:36
ЦитатаBoeing's Starliner Challenges: Weight, Vibrations, Software & Landings (http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/09/04/boeings-starliner-challenges-weight-vibrations-software-landings/)
Posted by Doug Messier (http://www.parabolicarc.com/author/doug/) on September 4, 2016, at 8:30 am
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Boeing CST-100 Starliner high bay (Credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett)
 
Excerpted from, "NASA's Commercial Crew Program: Update on Development and Certification Efforts (https://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY16/IG-16-028.pdf)," NASA Office of Inspector General, Report No. IG-16-028, September 1, 2016
Boeing's CCtCap contract initially included 23 milestones ranging from the establishment of an original requirements baseline to the final vehicle certification. Within the first 2 years of the contract, Boeing and NASA modified the contract to separate three of the milestones into multiple segments, replace one milestone, and add seven milestones related to NASA-imposed software upgrades, landing qualification tests, and hardware modifications.18 These modifications increased the number of milestones to 34 and the total contract value by approximately $46 million.
As of June 2016, Boeing had completed 15 of the 34 milestones (44 percent) necessary to achieve certification and was scheduled to receive up to $1.067 billion (25 percent) of the total contract value in payment.
Of the 23 Boeing milestones, seven related to specific NASA program requirements:
 
  • Certification Baseline Review,
  • ISS Design Certification Review,
  • Orbital Flight Test Readiness Review,
  • Crewed Flight Test Design Review,
  • Crewed Flight Test Readiness Review,
  • Operations Readiness Review, and
  • Certification Review.19
These milestones address development of the transportation system design, definition of the plan and schedule to obtain certification, and demonstration that the system meets all NASA requirements for uncrewed and first crewed flight tests leading up to final certification for operational flights to the ISS (for more information about these reviews, click here (http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/09/03/boeing-commercial-crew-milestone-status/)). The dates for NASA required milestones, as well as the Critical Design Review, were extended, which in turn pushed out the dates for Boeing's test flights and the first certified crewed flight.
As of July 2016, Boeing has completed four significant milestones:
 
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  • Certification Baseline Review. For this review, baseline requirements were confirmed to be inline with NASA guidance; the plan and schedule for completing design, development, test, and evaluation and certification for the system was defined; and top safety, technical, cost, and schedule risks were defined. Boeing completed this milestone in November 2014 after a1-month delay.
  • Ground Segment Critical Design Review. For this review, the ground segment design was determined sufficiently mature to support proceeding to full-scale fabrication, assembly,integration, and testing. Boeing completed this milestone in December 2014 after a 2-month delay.
  • Delta Integrated Critical Design Review and Launch Segment Critical Design Review. For this review, the maturity of the design across the launch segment, spacecraft segment, and ground segment was determined appropriate to proceed to assembly, integration, and test activities.Boeing separated the review into two parts, with the Delta Integrated Critical Design Review completed in May 2015 after a 4-month delay and the Launch Segment Critical Design Review completed in July 2015 after a 2-month delay.  Despite receiving formal approval to proceed from NASA, Boeing had numerous follow-up items to complete after these reviews, including increasing the level of technical expertise at reviews to maintain healthy checks and balances; assessing final launch parameters, including loads and temperatures; and determining the likelihood that Russian rocket engines may be unavailable and identifying other rocket engine options.
  • Structural Test Article Test Readiness Review Part 1. This review was designed to ensure development of the primary structure of the capsule and launch vehicle adapter was progressing adequately. Boeing completed this milestone in December 2015 after an 8-month delay.
Boeing officials attributed the delays in achieving these milestones to
 
  • a 2-month delay (July 2014 to September 2014) in NASA awarding the contract;
  • the need to rearrange the order of some tasks to improve the efficiency of work flow; and
  • various technical challenges that arose after the contract was awarded.
For example, Boeing has had to resolve issues relating to the effects of vibrations generated during launch, which can vary in a manner difficult to predict and can be strong enough to damage the vehicle and impact crew safety. These issues delayed the start of the Structural Test Article Test Readiness Review and Qualification Test Vehicle testing. In addition, Boeing experienced challenges with vehicle mass that affected its spacecraft design.
Boeing officials told us that in retrospect its original schedule may have been too ambitious for some milestones. Given the technical challenges and contract modifications, Boeing has postponed a number of milestones planned for 2016 until 2017, including a pad abort test.
Looking forward, Boeing is scheduled to complete the final segment of Critical Design Review in November 2016. Following the Launch Segment Critical Design Review, in July 2015, NASA had provided Boeing with the approval to generally proceed with its design. However, in April 2016, one final milestone to the Critical Design Review Process was added as a result of new, NASA-imposed requirements related to hardware and software modifications.
Boeing has also scheduled additional testing and certification milestones for the ISS Design Certification Review planned for February 2017 (originally scheduled for November 2016), during which the contractor will verify its capsule is capable of safely approaching, docking, mating, and departing from the Station.
Thereafter, Boeing is scheduled to conduct the Orbital Flight Test Readiness Review in August 2017 (originally scheduled for January 2017); the Crewed Flight Test Design Certification Review in November 2017 (originally scheduled for March 2017); and the Operational Readiness Review in January 2018 (originally scheduled for July 2017).
Boeing's final crew transportation vehicle certification review is scheduled for January 2018, 5 months later than originally planned. However, that date is in doubt given that Boeing's crewed test flight is not projected to occur until the end of 2017. The contractor must complete the test flight and NASA must review the results of that flight before it grants certification.
Commercial Crew Program officials told us they agreed that Boeing's original schedule was aggressive as well as with the reasons it offered for the delays. In addition, they said that the qualification testing in late August 2016 may identify hardware concerns that will require redesign and therefore could lead to additional schedule delays.
In particular, NASA is developing hardware that will enable the Boeing spacecraft to dock with the Station. But because of a tight testing and production schedule, NASA will have started producing this hardware prior to the qualification testing. As a result, any problems that come to light during the testing may require adjustments to hardware that is already in production. As such, further schedule slippages are anticipated, likely pushing the first certified crewed flight until late 2018.
18 Because the contractor receives payment only when it completes a milestone, dividing milestones into subcomponents enables the contractor to receive partial payments while development is ongoing.
19 The number of milestones based on NASA requirements for Boeing differs from SpaceX because Boeing has two separate Design Certification Reviews and two Flight Test Readiness Reviews.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: us2-star от 05.09.2016 00:40:30
Если я правильно понял суть:
1) По состоянию на июнь 2016 года, "Боинг" завершил 15 из 34 этапов (44 процента), необходимых для достижения сертификации и планируется получать до 1.067 млрд. долларов США (25 процентов) от общей стоимости контракта в счет оплаты.
2) "Боинг" планирует провести орбитальный испытательный полет в августе 2017 года (первоначально было запланировано на январь 2017 года); с экипажем ноябре 2017 года (первоначально был намечен на март 2017 года); и окончательная готовность (к использованию?) в январе 2018 года (первоначально было запланировано на июль 2017 года).
3) реально ожидают первый эксплуатационный полёт до конца 2018.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 12.09.2016 18:22:26
Видео месячной давности
Timelapse Of Boeing CST-100 Crew Access Arm Lift And Installation
https://youtu.be/a2a6Kf3WSYI (https://youtu.be/a2a6Kf3WSYI) https://youtu.be/a2a6Kf3WSYI
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 15.09.2016 00:40:32
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  8 мин.8 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/776172270548946944)
Ferguson: we determined other testing was sufficient for in-flight aborts, so don't need to do actual in-flight abort test. #AIAASpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AIAASpace?src=hash)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 38 мин.38 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/776163729457029120)
Ferguson says that under current schedule, CST-100 will be ready for commercial services for NASA in mid-2018. #AIAASpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AIAASpace?src=hash)
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 40 мин.40 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/776163371146096640)
Ferguson: pad abort test a big deal; fingers and toes crossed for it. Planned for end of next year. #AIAASpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AIAASpace?src=hash)
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 48 мин.48 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/776161159707697152)
Ferguson: five landing sites for CST-100: Dugway Proving Ground in Utah, 2 at White Sands, 1 in Ariz., and Edwards AFB in Calif. #AIAASpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AIAASpace?src=hash)
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 52 мин.52 минуты назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/776160379273482241)
Chris Ferguson, Boeing: plan to start CST-100 parachute tests, dropping test article from balloon at 40,000 ft, in about week. #AIAASpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AIAASpace?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 17.09.2016 13:31:47
https://youtu.be/cLKNzBzGiL4
https://youtu.be/cLKNzBzGiL4 (https://youtu.be/cLKNzBzGiL4)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 17.09.2016 13:36:00
http://spacenews.com/commercial-crew-companies-emphasize-safety-over-schedule (http://spacenews.com/commercial-crew-companies-emphasize-safety-over-schedule/#sthash.NDozi0l1.dpuf)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 17.09.2016 13:56:46
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
http://spacenews.com/commercial-crew-companies-emphasize-safety-over-schedule
У Боинга шансы конечно повыше и еще есть вероятность что полетит в 2018 г. Но в любом случае очень сильные задержки. Когда все эти идеи с новыми программами начинались планировалось что уже к 2014-15 гг эти корабли начнут активно регулярно летать. Изначально планировались еще более ранние сроки. А сейчас абсолютно ясно что раньше 2019 г регулярных полетов не предвидиться. Фактически наш Союз в одиночку вытягивает всю мировую пилотируемую космонавтику а 50% срока службы МКС экипажи летают только на одних Союзах
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 20.09.2016 00:25:26
http://izvestia.ru/news/633318
Цитата-- Согласно наиболее свежему расписанию, первый беспилотный полет космического корабля Dragon в его пилотируемой версии -- SpaceX Crew Dragon -- намечен на май 2017 года, а полет корабля с экипажем назначен на август 2017 года, -- заявила «Известиям» официальный представитель Центра Кеннеди NASA Табата Томпсон. -- Первый беспилотный полет корабля Boeing's CST-100 Starliner намечен на декабрь 2017 года, а полет с экипажем -- на февраль 2018 года. Даты дальнейших полетов новых кораблей пока не определены.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 23.09.2016 13:21:11
Я вот не догоняю на хрена сертифицировать под СТ-100 Атлас% если после 2020-го года Вулкан будет? Или после 2020го даже несмотря на Вулкан Атласы будут продолжать летать?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 23.09.2016 13:26:59
посмотри на Ангару и Фалкон - сколько времени нужно для пилотируемых запусков с первого пуска этого РН
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 24.09.2016 21:45:26
Цитатаpnetmon пишет:
посмотри на Ангару и Фалкон - сколько времени нужно для пилотируемых запусков с первого пуска этого РН
На Сатурне-1В полетели в пятом полёте, на Сатурне-5 - в третьем, на Шаттле - в первом.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 24.09.2016 22:37:54
Вот только Сатурн, Шаттл разрабатывались для пилотируемых полетов, а Ангара, Фалкон, Вулкан по большей части эксплуатироваться будут для вывода спутников.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 24.09.2016 22:42:53
Дык это ж скорее плюс чем минус.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 26.09.2016 01:45:03
Вобщем я так понимаю Атласу еще летать и летать
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 05.10.2016 13:23:48
http://tass.ru/kosmos/3678615
ЦитатаКомпания Boeing заявила о намерении завоевать рынок космического туризма
5 октября, 3:15 UTC+3
 Глава корпорации выразил уверенность, что космический туризм станет крайне популярной и востребованной услугой в ближайшие несколько десятилетий
 (https://cdn1.tass.ru/width/744_b12f2926/tass/m2/uploads/i/20161005/4346556.jpg)
 Деннис Муиленберг  © AP Photo/Ted S. Warren  
 
НЬЮ-ЙОРК, 5 октября. /Корр. ТАСС Кирилл Волков/. Корпорация Boeing намерена опередить компанию SpaceX в том, что касается осуществления первого полета человека на Марс. Об этом заявил президент и исполнительный директор Boeing Деннис Муиленберг, выступая на конференции по инновациям в американском Чикаго (штат Иллинойс).
"Я убежден, что первый человек, который прибудет на Марс, сделает это на ракете компании Boeing", - сказал он. Муиленберг отметил, что Boeing, как и ее конкурент SpaceX, нацелена на коммерциализацию космических полетов. Глава корпорации также выразил уверенность, что космический туризм станет крайне популярной и востребованной услугой в ближайшие несколько десятилетий.
Эта сфера превратится в "жизнеспособный коммерческий рынок", прогнозирует он. Говоря о перспективах такого туризма, Муиленберг, в частности, предположил, что через какое-то время на низкой околоземной орбите рядом с Международной космической станцией могут даже появиться "гостиницы" для космических туристов.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 06.10.2016 01:54:53
политическое заявление приуроченное к 100-летию компании, но в целом он прав - за космическим туризмом будущее и действительно есть перспективы
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 12.10.2016 23:03:51
По новому плану, опубликованном 10 октября в  Aviation Week (http://aviationweek.com/space/boeing-delays-cst-100-still-targets-2018-iss-mission), новый график запусков выгляди так:

беспилотный полет - июнь 2018
пилотируемый полет (тестовый) - август 2018
эксплуатационный полет НАСА - декабрь 2018

Если других подвижек не будет - то не плохо.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 13.10.2016 06:43:32
Тут еще про один шаг к полетам
ЦитатаOlaf пишет:
http://spacenews.com/boeing-delays-cst-100-test-flights-by-six-months/
ЦитатаUnder the revised schedule, a pad abort test of the CST-100, previously scheduled for October 2017, is now planned for January 2018.

An uncrewed CST-100 flight, called the Orbital Flight Test, has shifted from December 2017 to June 2018.

A crewed flight test of the CST-100 to the International Space Station, carrying a NASA astronaut and Boeing test pilot, has been delayed from February to August 2018.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 13.10.2016 03:26:28
Интересно, с чем связан перенос?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Kap от 13.10.2016 04:07:55
ЦитатаMax Andriyahov пишет:
Интересно, с чем связан перенос?
Ну так у Маска сроки из-за аварии должны поплыть - зачем тогда торопиться?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 13.10.2016 04:35:15
ЦитатаНу так у Маска сроки из-за аварии должны поплыть - зачем тогда торопиться?

а как разработка КК связана с расследованием аварии РН? Общие ресурсы?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 13.10.2016 04:36:07
ну и
Цитатазачем тогда торопиться?
- чтобы освоить 6 полетов к МКС, вполне себе стимул, нет?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Kap от 13.10.2016 05:02:35
ЦитатаMax Andriyahov пишет:
а как разработка КК связана с расследованием аварии РН?
Наличием стимула дорабатывать.
ЦитатаMax Andriyahov пишет:
- чтобы освоить 6 полетов к МКС, вполне себе стимул, нет?
Так они уже на разработку освоили. В пределах 500 миллионов, но зато не надо предъявлять запуски.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Paleopulo от 13.10.2016 10:34:20
ЦитатаMax Andriyahov пишет:
Интересно, с чем связан перенос?


По словам вице-президента и руководителя космических программ Боинга, по трем причинам:
- проблемы со "смежниками" (supply chain);
- проблема с отработкой не основных компонентов системы (minor components);
- проблема с вторым экземпляром корабля, который предназначен для первого пилотируемого полета. Там на стенде произошла поломка нижнего "конуса" герметичного отсека корабля.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 13.10.2016 05:49:24
Paleopulo, спасибо
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: LRV_75 от 13.10.2016 16:21:59
То, что и у Боинга и у SpaceX плохая готовность к пилотируемым полетам, НАСА поняло еще летом 2016, т.е. ДО аварии 1 сентября.
Но и Боинг и SpaceX молчали, т.к. не хотели первыми говорить о переносе раньше времени.
И тут такой подарок от SpaceX.
Боинг посмотрел как развиваются события, как долго идет расследование, наверное уже имеют более подробную инфу о том что произошло и к чему это приведет и поняв, что SpaceX однозначно улетают вправо заявили  официально о том, о чем и так было понятно НАСА.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.10.2016 17:06:38
http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-and-boeing-unveil-atlasv-starliner-config.aspx
Цитата United Launch Alliance and the Boeing Company Unveil the Atlas V Configuration for the CST-100 Starliner Crew Capsule
ULA's Atlas V will Provide Safe and Reliable Transportation for Starliner to the International Space Station

Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla. (Oct. 13, 2016) - United Launch Alliance (ULA) and The Boeing Company today unveiled an updated aerodynamic configuration of the Atlas V that will launch Boeing's CST-100 Starliner capsule for NASA after encountering unique challenges with aerodynamic stability and loads.

This new configuration incorporates an aeroskirt aft of the spacecraft, extending the Starliner Service Module cylindrical surface to improve the aerodynamic characteristics of the integrated launch configuration and bring loads margins back to acceptable flight levels.

"Through incredible coordination and continued innovative thinking, the collective team of NASA, Boeing and United Launch Alliance completed three wind tunnel tests in six months to investigate the aerodynamic stability of various configurations and to anchor our analytical predictions. Based on that information, we updated the configuration for the Atlas V Starliner integrated vehicle stack," said Gary Wentz, ULA vice president of Human and Commercial Services. "This configuration is unique because it combines the Atlas V launch vehicle without a payload fairing with Boeing's Starliner capsule, resulting in different aerodynamic interactions."  

The aeroskirt is a metallic orthogrid structure designed to be jettisoned for improved performance. In the unlikely event that an emergency occurs during boost phase of flight, the aeroskirt has venting provisions to control over-pressurization if the Starliner's abort engines are fired. Fabrication of the aeroskirt is scheduled to begin this month at ULA's factory in Decatur, Alabama, following completion of a Production Readiness Review.

"Our testing indicates the solution we chose will sufficiently smooth the air flow around the vehicle during ascent, ensuring crew safety and mission success," said John Mulholland, vice president and program manager of Boeing's Commercial Crew Program.

The ULA team completed the aeroskirt Preliminary Design Review earlier this month. The Atlas V with Starliner has a planned uncrewed flight test in 2018 with operational missions to follow.

"We look forward to our continued partnership with Boeing and NASA to ensure mission success and safety for American astronauts flying from U.S. soil on the Atlas V Starliner," said Wentz.

With more than a century of combined heritage, United Launch Alliance is the nation's most experienced and reliable launch service provider. ULA has successfully delivered more than 110 satellites to orbit that provide critical capabilities for troops in the field, aid meteorologists in tracking severe weather, enable personal device-based GPS navigation and unlock the mysteries of our solar system.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 13.10.2016 17:33:45
Нехилая такая юбочка...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cupf8uIWAAAzfLC.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 14.10.2016 14:21:52
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  14 ч.14 часов назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/786677861600157697)  
Mulholland: gone through lot of hurdles in tech development of CST-100; updated schedule with 1st operational flight Dec 2018. #ISPCS2016 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISPCS2016?src=hash)
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  14 ч.14 часов назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/786676290631839744)  
John Mulholland, Boeing: "minimal damage" to OPF-3 at KSC, used for CST-100 work, from hurricane; back up in production. #ISPCS2016 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISPCS2016?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Quооndo от 14.10.2016 14:35:06
Когда уже о покупке новых мест на Союзах объявят  :?:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 17.10.2016 21:49:55
Из альбома https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasakennedy/sets/72157647244171004
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5332/30323696035_7b6d818237_o_d.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5642/30027163880_48260700d6_o_d.jpg)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasakennedy/30207937712/ там еще оригинал большего размера (9Мб)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5589/30207937712_d4f23abe72_k_d.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 17.10.2016 23:03:48
ЦитатаQuооndo пишет:
Когда уже о покупке новых мест на Союзах объявят :?:
Никогда наверное...
ЦитатаМосква. 16 октября. INTERFAX.RU - НАСА не планирует продлевать контракт с "Роскосмосом" на доставку астронавтов к Международной космической станции (МКС) после 2018 года, сообщил журналистам в субботу замглавы американского космического агентства по пилотируемым программам Уильям Герстенмайер.
"Нет, не планируем", - сказал он, отвечая на вопрос журналиста о продлении контракта на Байконуре.
Герстенмайер также отметил, что американский пилотируемый корабль, на котором НАСА планирует доставлять своих астронавтов к МКС, будет подготовлен в запланированный срок.
В США сразу три компании Lockheed, SpaceX и Boeing одновременно занимаются разработками пилотируемых кораблей. Ожидается, что первый пилотируемый полет на собственном новом корабле астронавты смогут осуществить в 2017 году.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/532703
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 18.10.2016 06:11:36
чисто теоретически - орион может стыковаться с мкс или нет?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 18.10.2016 05:22:26
Цитатачисто теоретически - орион может стыковаться с мкс или нет?

стыковочный модуль ИДА изначально был под Орион и был сделан
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 19.10.2016 18:21:29
Цитатаhttps://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/10/18/starliner-propulsion-hardware-arrives-testing-begins/
Starliner Propulsion Hardware Arrives, Testing Begins
Posted on October 18, 2016 at 8:35 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/10/18/starliner-propulsion-hardware-arrives-testing-begins/) by Stephanie Martin (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/samarti9/).
(http://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/wp-content/uploads/sites/230/2016/10/hr-LAE_Test_01_10_10_16.jpg) (http://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/wp-content/uploads/sites/230/2016/10/hr-LAE_Test_01_10_10_16.jpg)
Boeing and Aerojet Rocketdyne have begun a series of developmental hot-fires tests with two launch abort engines similar to the ones that will be part of Boeing's Starliner service module. The engines, designed to maximize thrust build-up, while minimizing overshoot during start up, will be fired between half a second and 3 seconds each during the test campaign. If the Starliner's four launch abort engines were used during an abort scenario, they would fire between 3 and 5.5 seconds, with enough thrust to get the spacecraft and its crew away from the rocket, before splashing down in the ocean under parachutes.
Recently, Aerojet Rocketdyne also completed delivery of the first set of hardware for Starliner's service module propulsion system.
The Starliner is under development in collaboration with NASA's Commercial Crew Program for crew missions to the International Space Station.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 24.10.2016 22:56:52
NASA's Commercial Crew Program By the Numbers (http://www.parabolicarc.com/2016/10/24/nasas-84-billion-commercial-crew-program/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 01.11.2016 22:45:24
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/10/31/launch-abort-engines-tested-in-california/
ЦитатаLaunch Abort Engines Tested in California

Posted on October 31, 2016 at 3:44 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/10/31/launch-abort-engines-tested-in-california/) by Steven Siceloff (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/ssicelof/).
          
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Recently, Aerojet Rocketdyne conducted a series of hot-fire tests with two launch abort engines in the Mojave Desert in California. The launch abort engines will be part of Boeing's Starliner service module propulsion system, which provides launch abort capability on the pad and during ascent. Starliner's four 40,000-pound thrust launch abort engines will only be used in abort. Watch video from the tests here. (https://www.facebook.com/NASACommercialCrew/videos/1118963008200556/)
                
This entry was posted in NASA (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/nasa/) on October 31, 2016 (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2016/10/31/launch-abort-engines-tested-in-california/) by Steven Siceloff (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/ssicelof/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 14.11.2016 21:50:23
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  3 ч.3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/798193820525531136)  
Williams: schedules for comm'l crew "remain optimistic": currently calls for certification for SpaceX Feb 18, Boeing May 18.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 14.11.2016 23:32:10
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  27 мин.27 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/798253175572557825)  
Lueders notes that the dates for the SpaceX missions have not been updated since the last quarterly meeting in July (pre F9 accident).
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  39 мин.39 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/798250223298609152)  
Schedules for Boeing and SpaceX's commercial crew efforts, from Kathy Lueders' presentation at NAC HEO committee meeting:
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 01.12.2016 01:02:39
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000602146873/75492271e2d1d83edeb6c0314f84353d_bigger.jpeg) Parabolicarc.com ‏@spacecom  (https://twitter.com/spacecom) 2 ч.2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/spacecom/status/804040679294783488)  California, USA  (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3Afbd6d2f5a4e4a15e)
Bolden: commercial crew flight tests scheduled for "as early as" end of 2017 Not sure about that. Boeing definitely not. SpaceX probably not
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.01.2017 03:34:04
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/829884026/091004-780610_bigger.jpg) Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight)  3 ч.3 часа назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/816401558162305024)  
Chris B - NSF Ретвитнул(а) NASA Commercial Crew
It's all going on right now. Good news for Starliner and Dragon 2:
Chris B - NSF добавил(а),
Цитата  (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/816396824491790337)  
 (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1RskTCUoAEQJbp.jpg)  
 NASA Commercial Crew  @Commercial_Crew  
Regular crew rotation flights with @BoeingDefense and @SpaceX to and from the @Space_Station are secured to 2024. http://go.nasa.gov/2iACB7k  
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.01.2017 20:54:22
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  1 ч.1 час назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/824295796912910336)
Boeing's Ferguson on cost of Starliner seat: "less than" $82M NASA paying for ride on Russian Soyuz.
 
  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/576901471574188032/7KTgtckm_bigger.jpeg) James Dean ‏@flatoday_jdean  (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean)  2 ч.2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/824288889993105408)  
Boeing "reveal" of CST-100 Starliner suit designed by David Clark Co.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.01.2017 20:59:57
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/296762959/Author_Photo_bigger.jpg) Christian Davenport ‏@wapodavenport  (https://twitter.com/wapodavenport)  2 ч.2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/824287984761663488)  
Helmet on!
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  (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/296762959/Author_Photo_bigger.jpg) Christian Davenport ‏@wapodavenport  (https://twitter.com/wapodavenport)  2 ч.2 часа назад (https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/824287593055535105)  
Boeing's Chris Ferguson discusses the company's new space suit on wapo's facebook live.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.01.2017 21:10:04
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1844231573/Boeing_twitter_avatar_bigger.png) Boeing Defense Подлинная учетная запись ‏@BoeingDefense  (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense)
Thanks for joining us! See more and check out the spacesuit features on #Boeing (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Boeing?src=hash)'s expanded spaceflight page. http://www.boeing.com/features/2017/01/space-suit-01-17.page ... (https://t.co/2Ieu0M8x6F)
ЦитатаSuit Up The Starliner spacesuit is revealed publically for the first time
January 25, 2017 in Space, Defense
 
https://players.brightcove.net/800000612001/a7975ab0-d4c3-4514-a6c3-d7bfff0667c5_default/index.html?videoId=5285340800001

Future passengers on the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft now know what they'll be wearing as they travel to and from low-Earth orbit destinations, like the International Space Station. The new "Boeing Blue" spacesuits were designed to provide crew members with functionality, comfort and protection.
The Starliner spacesuit provides greater pressurized mobility and is about 40 percent lighter than previous suits. Its innovative layers will keep astronauts cooler as well. The touchscreen-friendly gloves allow astronauts to interact with the capsule's tablets while the boots are breathable and slip resistant. Zippers in the torso area will make it easier for astronauts to comfortably transition from sitting to standing. In addition to protecting astronauts during launch and the return to Earth, the suit also helps connect astronauts to ground and space crews through the communications headset within the helmet. The suit's hood-like soft helmet sports a wide polycarbonate visor to give Starliner passengers better peripheral vision throughout their ride to and from space.
"Spacesuits have come in different sizes and shapes and designs, and I think this fits the Boeing model, fits the Boeing vehicle," said Chris Ferguson, Boeing director of Starliner Crew and Mission Systems and a former NASA astronaut.
For more pictures and videos go to the Starliner page (http://www.boeing.com/space/starliner/).
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Chris Ferguson wears the brand new spacesuit from Boeing and David Clark.
 Boeing
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 26.01.2017 06:16:30
наружу вылазить можно?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 26.01.2017 10:38:49
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
наружу вылазить можно?
Вряд ли - это спасательный скафандр, типа нашего "Сокола", только посовременнее...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 26.01.2017 05:47:10
Цитатанаружу вылазить можно?
на Земле - пожалуйста.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: PIN от 26.01.2017 12:19:07
Цитатаsilentpom пишет:
наружу вылазить можно?
На турбо-солярий быстро переходящий в барбекю. Для верности нужно еще потемнее ткань снаружи сделать.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 27.01.2017 22:24:30
Фото внутри макета при освещении нового скафандра

 https://www.nasa.gov/feature/new-spacesuit-unveiled-for-starliner-astronauts
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/ksc-20160802-ph_boe01_0003.jpg)

 http://www.space.com/35453-boeing-new-spacesuit-starliner-capsule-gallery.html(http://www.space.com/images/i/000/062/042/original/boeing-suit-1.jpg)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Floppy Disk от 28.01.2017 12:21:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tyJGC0n4M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tyJGC0n4M)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tyJGC0n4M
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 28.01.2017 12:09:47
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/sources-neither-boeing-nor-spacex-likely-ready-to-fly-crews-until-2019/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 02.02.2017 09:35:04
http://spaceflightnow.com/2017/02/01/astronauts-will-ride-on-starliner-capsules-in-boeing-blue-spacesuits/
ЦитатаAstronauts will ride on Starliner capsules in 'Boeing Blue' spacesuits             
 February 1, 2017 (http://spaceflightnow.com/2017/02/) Stephen Clark (http://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)
 https://youtu.be/l7tyJGC0n4M
Boeing has unveiled a new lightweight spacesuit, fitted with zippers, breathable stitching and plenty of Velcro, to protect NASA astronauts on trips to the International Space Station aboard the company's CST-100 Starliner capsule.
The "Boeing Blue" garment will shield astronauts as they ride inside the CST-100 spacecraft during launch and landing. The environment inside the capsule will be pressurized and climate-controlled, so crews will take off the spacesuits during quieter parts of the ride to and from the space station.
But following the practice during space shuttle missions, pilots and passengers will wear the suits during more hazardous parts of the trip, according to Chris Ferguson, director of Starliner crew and mission systems at Boeing.
Ferguson, a former astronaut, dubbed it the "get us home suit" because it is not designed for spacewalks.
"We needed a suit that's air tight, could withstand the pressure differential, could get the crew down from an extreme situation, whether it was a fire or a cabin leak," Ferguson said.
Boeing revealed the spacesuit, designed by David Clark Company of Massachusetts, during a Facebook Live event last week in partnership with the Washington Post.
The 12-pound (5-kilogram) Starliner pressure suit is lighter than the space shuttle's 30-pound (14-kilogram) launch and entry suit. Ferguson said the new suit is also cooler for astronauts wearing it.
"This is a lighter-weight fabric, it's breathable," Ferguson said. "You can actually stand very comfortably, even in a hot room, and not get overheated quickly."
 (http://spaceflightnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/31677346374_c95e07194f_k.jpg) (http://spaceflightnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/31677346374_c95e07194f_k.jpg)
NASA astronaut Suni Williams tries on the CST-100 Starliner spacesuit. Williams is one of four astronauts sel ected by NASA to train for the first missions on Boeing and SpaceX commercial crew craft. Credit: Boeing

Astronauts that flew on the space shuttle wore bright orange "pumpkin" suits, also supplied by David Clark Company, while Boeing is going with blue suits. NASA introduced pressure suits for shuttle crews in the aftermath of the Challenger accident, and astronauts originally trained with blue models, before eventually flying with orange suits when the shuttle launched again in 1988.
"It feels good to be walking around in Boeing Blue," Ferguson said. "Spacesuits have come in different sizes, shapes and designs, and I think this fits the Boeing model, fits the Boeing vehicle."
Changes from the space shuttle's launch and entry suit include the replacement of a metallic neck ring and rigid helmet with a zipper and a hood-like helmet. The gloves will allow astronauts to use touchscreen tablets in flight and easily flip switches inside the CST-100 cockpit.
Engineers designed the suit's communications cap with a built-in cranial helmet with padding to protect against impacts, Ferguson said.
The suit's polycarbonate visor maintains its shape regardless of pressure, improving crews' peripheral vision, and seams underneath the suit's shoulder covers ensures ease of mobility, according to Boeing.
Built-in boots on the Starliner suits are also less bulky than the flight boots used by shuttle astronauts.
"Believe it or not, I'm actually very comfortable," said Monica Hopkins, a Boeing propulsion engineer who tried on the Starliner spacesuit during last week's Facebook Live event. "My visual of everything is very good, and I have good mobility with anything that I would need to do."
NASA awarded contracts to Boeing and SpaceX in 2014 to complete development of commercial spaceships to ferry astronauts to and fr om the space station. Boeing's CST-100 Starliner will lift off on United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rockets and return to parachute-assisted, airbag-cushioned landings on the Western United States.
Boeing plans a pad abort test of a CST-100 capsule at White Sands, New Mexico, next January. An unpiloted test flight in Earth orbit should follow in June 2018, then a Boeing test pilot and a NASA astronaut will strap into a CST-100 Starliner spaceship for an orbital demonstration flight in August 2018.
Regular crew rotation services should begin in December 2018.
The Washington Post asked Ferguson, whose last mission was as commander of the final shuttle mission in 2011, if he will fly on the CST-100 Starliner, a subject of speculation among industry insiders and space enthusiasts.
"There are no plans for that now, but if Boeing asked, it would be hard to say no," Ferguson said, adding that he still has a desire to fly in space again.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: zandr от 03.02.2017 19:34:33
https://ria.ru/space/20170203/1487164375.html
ЦитатаЧасть деталей космического корабля для МКС распечатают на 3D-принтере
РИА Новости. Часть деталей перспективных космических кораблей Boeing CST-100 Starliner, полеты на которых к МКС планируется начать в 2018 году, будет изготовлена на 3D-принтерах, сообщает компания-производитель Oxford Performance Materials (OPM).
"OPM была выбрана компанией Boeing для производства элементов конструкции космического корабля Boeing CST-100 Starliner с применением технологий 3D-печати. Компания начала поставку деталей для установки", -- говорится в сообщении на сайте OPM.

Контракт НАСА на строительство пилотируемых космических кораблей получили компании Boeing и SpaceX в 2014 году. Ранее планировалось, что обе компании начнут испытания в пилотируемом режиме до конца 2017 года, по последним данным, они состоятся не раньше середины 2018 года. В январе сообщалось, что НАСА может зарезервировать три места в российском пилотируемом космическом корабле "Союз" в 2019 году для обеспечения запусков к МКС в случае задержки отправки своего корабля, но официального подтверждения этому еще не было.

Boeing будет собирать корабли CST-100 Starliner на заводе во Флориде и готовить к полетам в ангаре, который раньше использовал для подготовки своих шаттлов НАСА. Корабль Starliner может вместить экипаж из семи человек.

Ранее сообщалось о том, что НАСА профинансирует тестовый полет корабля и до шести космических миссий к МКС. Затраты на это составят до 4,2 миллиарда долларов.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 03.02.2017 21:05:43
Цитата http://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-space-exclusive-idUSKBN15I1HW

Exclusive: Boeing's space taxis to use more than 600 3D-printed parts

Boeing Co has hired a small company to make about 600 3D-printed parts for its Starliner space taxis, meaning key components in the United States manned space program are being built with additive manufacturing.
...
"What really makes it valuable to NASA and Boeing is this material is as strong as aluminum at significantly less weight," he said. Boeing said the weight savings on Oxford's parts is about 60 percent compared with traditional manufacturing.

Boeing is building three Starliner capsules under a $4.2 billion NASA contract. Entrepreneur Elon Musk's SpaceX is building a competing capsule under a $2.6 billion NASA contract.

Oxford has already shipped parts for the Starliner. The plastic it uses, known as PEKK, also resists fire and radiation, according to Oxford. Boeing declined to say how much of the capsule Oxford's parts represent.
... (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/68467)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: vadimspb от 08.02.2017 18:16:50
Вот непростой вопрос.В отличие от "Федерации", которая несëт на своëм корпусе: антенны радиосвязи,антенны Курса,датчики ИКВ и.т.д , на CST-100 ничего подобного не видно.  Что "Боингом" найдены новые методы стыковки с МКС?.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 08.02.2017 20:11:18
ЦитатаAlbert пишет:
Вот непростой вопрос.В отличие от "Федерации", которая несëт на своëм корпусе: антенны радиосвязи,антенны Курса,датчики ИКВ и.т.д , на CST-100 ничего подобного не видно.
А вы где-то видите CST-100  в сборе? Может фотографией тогда поделитесь?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: vadimspb от 08.02.2017 19:52:27
лучше,вообще не отвечать ,чем вопросом на вопрос.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Alex_II от 08.02.2017 20:53:45
ЦитатаAlbert пишет:
лучше,вообще не отвечать ,чем вопросом на вопрос.
Это еще почему?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Patron от 12.02.2017 19:03:20
ЦитатаAlbert пишет:
Вот непростой вопрос.В отличие от "Федерации", которая несëт на своëм корпусе: антенны радиосвязи,антенны Курса,датчики ИКВ и.т.д , на CST-100 ничего подобного не видно. Что "Боингом" найдены новые методы стыковки с МКС?.
На Starliner установлена лидарная аппаратура, по аналогии с Dragon (Crew Dragon), Cygnus, Dream Chaser. Отрабатывалась в некоторых миссиях  шатллов на МКС. Упоминание было на blogs.nasa.gov May 10, 2016: "...McArthur, who flew as a mission specialist on STS-125 and captured the Hubble Space Telescope with the shuttle's robotic arm, visited Advanced Scientific Concepts in Santa Barbara, California, on April 7 where she surveyed the 3D Flash Light Detection and Ranging sensors the company is making. The LIDAR gear will let Starliner crews see the station in all conditions in space during a mission. The next day, McArthur visited Qual-Pro Corp in Gardena, California, where engineers are making the circuit boards that will allow Starliner systems to communicate with each other..."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: vadimspb от 12.02.2017 20:29:20
спасибо за ответ.LIDAR это наверное только на финишной прямой.?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Patron от 13.02.2017 21:36:36
ЦитатаAlbert пишет:
спасибо за ответ.LIDAR это наверное только на финишной прямой.?
Да. Участок дальнего сближения по GPS (Absolute Nav); ближний участок с помощью радара, лидара и RGPS; 250-300 метров по радару и лидару; 50-250 метров с помощью оптики, лидара и УКВ; 0-50 метров с помощью оптики и лидара. В инете много инфы на тему применения лидаров для сближения и стыковки с МКС, начиная с 2007 года и по н.в.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 18.02.2017 00:50:35
http://spacenews.com/nasa-developing-contingency-plan-for-commercial-crew-delays/?utm_content=bufferc0d31&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
ЦитатаBoeing's CST-100 Starliner is currently scheduled to have its certification review in the fourth quarter of 2018, after an uncrewed flight test in June 2018 and a crewed flight test in August 2018. That review is at least 14 months behind the original schedule in Boeing's contract.
While both companies state they are making good progress on their vehicles after encountering a range of technical issues, NASA is less confident in their ability to remain on their revised schedule. "The Commercial Crew Program is tracking risks that both contractors could experience additional schedule delays and its own analysis indicates that certification is likely to slip into 2019," the GAO report stated.
...
Boeing's top risks, according to the GAO report, include obtaining adequate information about the capsule's parachute system and getting data on the design of Russian-built RD-180 engines used by the CST-100's launch vehicle, the Atlas 5. The engine data is needed by NASA to verify the engine meets human certification requirements, but access to the data is restricted.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 23.02.2017 22:42:28
ЦитатаStephen Clark‏@StephenClark1  (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1) 1m ago (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/834850621488500736)

ASAP's John Frost, discussing commercial crew risks, says one of the top risks in Boeing CST-100 program is certification of RD-180 engine.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 26.02.2017 23:28:47
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/02/commercial-rotation-us-segment-crew-increase-early/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 11.03.2017 00:51:33
Parachute Campaign Tests Designs to Provide Astronauts a Soft Landing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJzpIZV0Kcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJzpIZV0Kcw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJzpIZV0Kcw)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 11.03.2017 01:00:08
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/581142401244262400/GRx8SDqE_bigger.jpg) NASA Commercial Crew‏Подлинная учетная запись @Commercial_Crew  (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew) 42 мин назад (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/840308637608357888)
 
See a preview of how @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) returns to Earth for @NASA (https://twitter.com/NASA) missions to @Space_Station (https://twitter.com/Space_Station): http://go.nasa.gov/2n8qLq5  (https://t.co/rszLe18gto)
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/campaign-tests-parachutes-designed-to-provide-astronauts-a-soft-landing
ЦитатаMarch 10, 2017
 
 Campaign Tests Parachutes Designed to Provide Astronauts a Soft Landing
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/starliner-parachutetestdeploy.jpg?itok=_jO35RaC) (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/starliner-parachutetestdeploy.jpg)
 
A high-altitude balloon lifts off in White Sands, New Mexico, carrying a boilerplate of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner to perform a drop test of the spacecraft's parachute system. The spacecraft was taken to 38,000 feet and released, picking up the same speed as it will have coming back from orbit, before opening its parachutes.
Credits: Boeing
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Seen from the top hatch of the Starliner boilerplate, parachutes deploy as planned to land the boilerplate safely during a test of the parachute system.
Credits: Boeing

 
 By Joshua Finch,
 NASA Kennedy Space Center, Florida

A flight-sized boilerplate of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner touched down gently under parachutes against the backdrop of the San Andres Mountains in late February, providing a preview of how the spacecraft will return to Earth in upcoming NASA missions. Boeing is developing the Starliner to take astronauts to and from the International Space Station in partnership with NASA's Commercial Crew Program (http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew).

The parachute test is one in a series that will allow the vehicle to pick up the same velocity as the actual spacecraft when returning to Earth in the southwest region of the United States from the International Space Station. The goal of the test series is to prove the design of the Starliner's parachutes.

"Completion of this test campaign will bring Boeing and NASA one step closer to launching astronauts on an American vehicle and bringing them home safely," said Mark Biesack, spacecraft systems lead for the agency's Commercial Crew Program.
The test began at the Spaceport America facility near the Army's White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. During the test, the Starliner was lifted about 40,000 feet in the air, the flying altitude of a typical commercial airline flight, by a Near Space Corp. helium balloon and then released over the White Sands Missile Range.

Given the flight-like characteristics and the large size of the capsule, Boeing was not able to fit the Starliner test article into the hold of a C-130 or C-17 aircraft. Their solution, a 1.3-million-cubic-foot balloon, which is able to lift the capsule to its intended altitude.

"This parachute test, as well as the subsequent tests in Boeing's qualification test campaign, provides valuable data, because the test article has the same mass, outer mold line, and center of gravity as the flight vehicle," said Biesack. "The high-fidelity data they receive from these tests will anchor predicted models of realistic parachute deployment."

Attached underneath the Starliner boilerplate was a large, yellow stabilization weight used to orient the test vehicle's angle of attack and speed of descent. As the Starliner descended to the desert at speeds of 300 miles per hour, a series of dynamic events slowed the spacecraft. Shortly after the Starliner was released from the balloon, the spacecraft deployed two drogue parachutes at 28,000 feet to stabilize the spacecraft, then its pilot parachutes at 12,000 feet. The main parachutes followed at 8,000 feet above the ground prior to the jettison of the spacecraft's base heat shield at 4,500 feet. Finally, the spacecraft touched the ground lightly, kicking up the desert sand.

During missions to the station, the Starliner will be equipped with large air bags that will cushion the impact during landing. The Boeing design calls for the spacecraft to be reused up to ten times, and a land-landing will aid with reusability. In the event of an emergency, the spacecraft also can splash down in the ocean.

The Starliner spacecraft will launch on an Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 on Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. NASA also is partnering with SpaceX to develop a crew transportation system all in an effort to return to U.S. human spaceflight launches from American soil. SpaceX will launch its Crew Dragon spacecraft on the company's Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. 
 
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Last Updated: March 10, 2017
Editor: Steven Siceloff

Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 11.03.2017 12:49:10
От Боинга с лучшим качеством
https://youtu.be/WWFgfUyqIxU (https://youtu.be/WWFgfUyqIxU) https://youtu.be/WWFgfUyqIxU

Прям какая-то гонка тестирования возвращения. Старлайнер, Орион... обещают DreamChaser
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 13.03.2017 17:31:46
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/702230733683871744/m1BIofCt_bigger.png) SPACE.com‏Подлинная учетная запись @SPACEdotcom  (https://twitter.com/SPACEdotcom) 30 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SPACEdotcom/status/841287943524294656)

Flight-Sized Boeing Capsule Dropped From Balloon - On-Board Camera Video http://dlvr.it/NcWj5g  (https://t.co/ZEJCofxRRs)
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http://www.space.com/36034-flight-sized-boeing-capsule-dropped-from-balloon-on-board-camera-video.html
Add-on
ТыТруба подоспела (2:08)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHxkQ8PIanE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHxkQ8PIanE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHxkQ8PIanE)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 13.03.2017 17:40:13
Chute tests for Starliner as ASAP worry about RD-180 certification (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/03/chute-tests-starliner-asap-worry-rd-180-certification/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 13.03.2017 18:23:17
ЦитатаThe current schedule shows the Boe-OFT flight, which will be an uncrewed test of the Boeing CST-100 spacecraft (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/02/commercial-rotation-us-segment-crew-increase-early/), will occur throughout June 2018.
A roughly two-week crewed test flight of CST-100 will then occur in August 2018, ready for the start of limited operational commercial crew flights starting in late September 2018.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 28.03.2017 23:20:25
 (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg)  Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  50 мин.50 минут назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/846805093001449473)  
Updated commercial crew milestone chart from NASA's Kathy Lueders:
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 29.03.2017 22:17:40
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/581142401244262400/GRx8SDqE_bigger.jpg) NASA Commercial Crew‏Подлинная учетная запись @Commercial_Crew (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew) 20 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/847155921549774850)

Updated Collector Cards and Bookmarks Available Now! Download and Print yours! https://go.nasa.gov/2nBa9Gv  (https://t.co/uladNyVr8y)
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ccp-upadtedboeingbookmark.pdf (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/ccp-upadtedboeingbookmark.pdf)
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/69728)(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/69729)
collectorcard2017-boeing.pdf (https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/)
(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/69731) (https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/69732)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 29.03.2017 19:22:34
а без бустеров 401й не справится?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 29.03.2017 19:26:06
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других комментариев нет, честное слово
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2017 16:59:57
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/829884026/091004-780610_bigger.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 38 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/848884507411456002)

ARTICLE: SLC-41 completes EES installation ahead of Starliner missions - (plus SLS EES upd ate) - https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/04/slc-41-completes-ees-starliner-missions/ ... (https://t.co/ypXqXiFN1R)
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https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/04/slc-41-completes-ees-starliner-missions/
ЦитатаSLC-41 completes EES installation ahead of Starliner missions
April 3, 2017 by Chris Bergin
 
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An Emergency Egress System (EES) has completed its installation into the Crew Access Tower (CAT) at Space Launch Complex -41 (SLC-41) in preparation for Atlas V launches with Boeing's Starliner spacecraft. The EES is a vital element for all crew launch vehicles, with the SLC-41 EES working with the traditional "slide wire" concept.
 
 SLC-41 EES:

The requirement to have an Emergency Egress System (EES) is not just for the astronauts se t to ride uphill fr om the launch pad, but also for the engineering teams who's role includes working up close and personal with the rocket in the final days of the pad flow.

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ULA began evaluating options for SLC-41 during a period Atlas V was catering for two crew-capable vehicles options, namely Starliner (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/starliner/) - or CST-100 as it was known - and Sierra Nevada Corporation's (SNC) and their Dream Chaser (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=SNC) spacecraft.

"Different options for emergency egress. Detailed hazard analysis of the launch operations is a key determinant," noted the since-retired Dr. George Sowers, ULA VP for Human Launch Services, during a Q&A session with NASASpaceFlight.com members (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29751.0) in 2012. "We have the option of implementing a shuttle-like slide wire system if required."

Although Atlas V is still hoping to launch Dream Chaser missions, the spacecraft's role has been refocused on cargo missions (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Dream). The EES option will still be employed for pad crews tending to the spacecraft. However, the highlighted role will be for astronauts riding on the Starliner.
The historical heritage of the EES hardware has mainly been based around utilizing a fairly simple, gravity-powered systems with a requirement to be passive/unpowered, in case the emergency cut power to the pad. However, each option had a different take on a similar theme.

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The first EES for the Saturn V used the existing launch tower elevators to evacuate crew and/or engineers to the base of the Mobile Launch Platform, before transferring to a "slide tube" that led in an underground rubber room/sealed blast room - which remains in a preserved condition at Complex 39. (Large photo collection available on L2 - LINK (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=16024.0)).

A second system was added a few years later, adding the option of a single cab on a slide wire that egressed the astronauts outside of the pad perimeter - known as the Blast Danger Area (BDA) - 2,400 feet away fr om the pad. From there, they would enter a sealed bunker and await rescue.

This slide wire system was expanded by the time the Space Shuttle began its service for NASA, with extra emphasis on the pad EES, not least because a pad abort was not possible via the vehicle, due to the lack of a LAS (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/las/).

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Engineers installed five slide wires to the launch tower - later expanded to seven - with baskets that could hold up to four people each.

These slidewires ended at the same Apollo bunkers outside the BDA, wh ere personnel could wait out the disaster or transfer to an armored vehicle (M-113) and drive to a triage site wh ere they could be met by rescue personnel.

The slide wire option remained relatively unchanged throughout its career with the Space Shuttle Program (SSP) and was thankfully never required or used in anger.

It was used - mostly uncrewed - during emergency drills carried out on occasions such as the Terminal Countdown Demonstration Test (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/06/sts-135-atlantis-tcdt-external-tank-death-camera-ready/) (TCDT), allowing the crew to practice their evacuation plans.

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With ULA working on SLC-41 (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/08/pad-changes-new-era-space-coast/) during regular Atlas V missions (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/atlas-v/), this week's announcement that a final test of the pad's EES has been conducted is another step towards seeing US astronauts launching from the Cape.

"ULA is absolutely focused on the safety of the crews we will be supporting and although we hope to never use it, we are excited to announce the Emergency Egress System is fully operational," said Gary Wentz, Vice President of Human & Commercial Services.

"Through our partnership with Terra-Nova, a company that designs and builds zip lines for recreational use, a modified, off-the-shelf product has been designed and constructed to meet our needs and reduce costs, while maintaining reliability and safety."

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The egress cables are situated on level 12 of the Crew Access Tower (CAT), 172 feet above the Space Launch Complex 41 pad deck and will allow the crew to evacuate the CAT quickly to a landing zone more than 1,340 feet from the launch vehicle.

The EES can accommodate up to 20 personnel, including ground crew and flight crew.

ULA noted that Terra-Nova, LLC (makers of the ZipRider Hybrid) offered a commercially developed EES based on their "off-the-shelf," patented designs.

The ZipRider was easily adaptable to ULA's specific needs while offering an unmatched safety record, and providing the best overall value.

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With Boeing's Chris Ferguson - a former Shuttle commander (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=ferguson) - enjoying a test ride on the system ahead of its installation at SLC-41, it takes just 30 seconds for the rider to reach a top speed of 40 mph. The riders control their speed by releasing pressure on the handles, with the ability to glide to a gentle stop at the landing zone.

There are 30 feet of springs on each cable located in the landing area to gradually slow a rider down if they forget to brake. Terra-Nova will install a training system located north of the CAT for riders to practice on before final training on the operational EES.

"Crew safety is paramount, and the ULA emergency egress system hits the mark for an effective yet simple system that is adapted from other commercial applications," said Commander Ferguson, Boeing director of Starliner Crew and Mission Systems.
 
"We look forward to spaceflight operations next year knowing that every measure to protect the flight and ground crew has been employed."

There's also been internal movement on the EES that will be employed for the Space Launch System (SLS) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/sls/) on Pad 39B (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/39B/), years after a trade study began to evaluate the best EES option for safely evacuating crew and engineers from the dizzy heights of the Mobile Launcher (ML) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/ML/). Teams have been told to accelerate options in light of the recent study into changing Exploration Mission -1 (EM-1) into a crewed mission (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/02/investigating-potential-crew-sls-maiden-flight/).

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Currently, only one patchy render of the system has been acquired (L2) (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42529.0) - showing the use of a massive crane.

"Members of the Operations Integration and Analysis team developed, modeled, and created images of an Emergency Egress System concept in support of the Crewed SLS EM-1 Mission Study," noted a memo via L2 (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42529.0).

"The orange frame depicts the fixture with the four baskets lifted by a mobile crane and attached to the west side of the Mobile Launcher. The ground distance from the tower to the end of the slide wire is over 1100 feet, and the wire would be approximately 1300ft long. These images were used in the crewed EM-1 impact briefing to NASA Headquarters."

The use of a massive crane will be far cheaper than the recommended option from the 2006 study for the since-cancelled Ares I launch vehicle EES (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2006/11/nasa-will-build-rollercoaster-for-ares-i-escape/), once again pitching several very different designs against each other - including a slide wire system.

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The winner of the 2006 study was the spectacular Roller Coaster EES - a giant structure that would have been a permanent fixture out at Pad 39B, rising into the Florida skyline ready to be hooked up to the ML once it had rolled out to the pad with the vehicle.

The Roller Coaster EES included a multi-car high-speed rail system and used gravity to get personnel to a safe haven. It was deemed to be very accommodating to incapacitated crew members as well as limited 3G forces on the people riding the cars with a passive electromagnetic braking system.

It underwent a few redesigns during the life of the Constellation Program, including options to extend the rails to an area outside the BDA directly into a triage site.

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For this system, NASA relied on many different areas of expertise: Safety, Medical, Operations Personnel, and the Astronaut Office. Engineers involved in Disney's roller coaster systems were also part of the design project.

The 2006 trade study - (available on L2 LINK (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29415.msg942668#msg942668)) - helped explain the requirements of the future EES, of which there are numerous considerations. These considerations will be playing into the SLS trade study discussions.

"The EES starts at the crew hatch of the Orion and terminates at the designated safe area. Once the crew access arm is extended, a maximum of 2 minutes for 15 able bodied personnel (six crew members, three closeout crew members, and six fire/rescue members) is allowed to move from the hatch to inside the safe area during vehicle processing at the pad up to T-0.

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"The EES shall provide a safe area built to withstand possible blast, fire, and flying debris within the 5,000-ft blast danger area of the tower. The EES shall accommodate the following hazards at the pad: fire, propellant spills, tank overpressure, radioactive-material release, and toxic atmosphere.

"The EES shall provide a clear route from Orion hatch to the egress vehicles with provision for 0.25 gpm/sq ft of water spray and fire detection for the EES before entering the vehicles."

The list continued for two pages, and despite being by far the most expensive, the Roller Coaster EES scored the highest in nearly all of the requirement categories.

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The 2006 study design was refined again in 2008 (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2008/07/ares-i-rollercoaster-ees-continues-to-evolve/), mainly relating to the initial drop from the ML, in turn providing a CGI view from both onboard the coaster and viewing it drop from various viewpoints (L2 Link to Video (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=10075.0)).

However, the Constellation Program was then canceled.

Pad 39A's EES (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/39A/) will be mainly focused around the needs of the pad engineers, given astronauts onboard the Dragon 2 (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/dragon-v2/) will find their spacecraft will be the fastest way of egressing the pad in the event of an emergency ahead of launch.

Dragon 2 will fire her SuperDraco thrusters in the event of a pad abort scenario, as has already been tested (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/05/dragon-2-pad-abort-leap-key-spacex-test/).

(Images: Via Boeing, ULA and L2's specific sections. To join L2, click here: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/l2/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2017 17:27:57
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 14 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/848696623886733312)

Boeing's Chris Ferguson sits in the zip line chair that will be used for the pad egress system for Starliner launches from Pad 41.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2017 17:29:17
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 14 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/848697749780475904)

This was fr om a Boeing/ULA event at Royal Gorge, Colo., wh ere Boeing also showed off its Starliner spacesuit.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 03.04.2017 17:56:03
По ссылке видео:
https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/848679836247871490
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 Boeing DefenseПодлинная учетная запись @BoeingDefense
Zip line to lifeline: @ULALaunch + #Starliner emergency egress system covers 1,300+ feet, reaches 40 mph in 30 seconds #SS33 #BoeingSpace
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2017 18:02:55
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/563827857814605824/zvKDJUvj_bigger.jpeg) ULA‏Подлинная учетная запись @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 16 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/848666632347992066)

ULA worked w/Terra-Nova, which designs & creates rec zip lines, to modify ZipRider to meet our needs for the EES #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash)

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Completing Emergency Egress System testing is another step complete as we prepare to launch crew in @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) atop #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash)

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Zip line to safety: ULA completes final testing on its Emergency Egress System. #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) http://bit.ly/2oquaBb  (https://t.co/uQmxVijXlD)
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ЦитатаUnited Launch Alliance Completes Crew Emergency Egress System

ULA and Terra-Nova Zipline provide NASA and commercial astronauts with safe, new generation egress option


Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla., (April 2, 2017) - The final test of the Emergency Egress System (EES) was conducted recently, signifying the completion of another United Launch Alliance (ULA) milestone supporting NASA's Commercial Crew Program. The EES was developed in support of Boeing's Starliner crew capsule and is a means of rapid egress for astronauts in case of an anomaly.

"ULA is absolutely focused on the safety of the crews we will be supporting, and, although we hope to never use it, we are excited to announce the Emergency Egress System is fully operational," said Gary Wentz, vice president of Human & Commercial Services. "Through our partnership with Terra-Nova, a company that designs and builds zip lines for recreational use, a modified, off-the-shelf product has been designed and constructed to meet our needs and reduce costs, while maintaining reliability and safety."

The egress cables are situated on level 12 of the Crew Access Tower (CAT), 172 feet above the Space Launch Complex 41 pad deck at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, and will allow the crew to evacuate the CAT quickly to a landing zone more than 1,340 feet from the launch vehicle. The EES can accommodate up to 20 personnel, including ground crew and flight crew.

Terra-Nova, LLC (makers of the ZipRider® Hybrid) offered a commercially developed EES based on their "off-the-shelf," patented designs. The ZipRider was easily adaptable to ULA's specific needs, while offering an unmatched safety record, and providing the best overall value.

In just 30 seconds, the rider reaches top speeds of 40 mph. The riders control their speed by releasing pressure on the handles, with the ability to glide to a gentle stop at the landing zone. There are 30 feet of springs on each cable located in the landing area to gradually slow a rider down if they forget to brake. Terra-Nova will install a training system located north of the CAT for riders to practice on before final training on the operational EES.

The Boeing Company is developing Starliner and sel ected ULA's Atlas V rocket for human-rated spaceflight to the International Space Station. ULA's Atlas V has launched more than 70 times with a 100 percent mission success rate.

"Crew safety is paramount, and the ULA Emergency Egress System hits the mark for an effective yet simple system that is adapted fr om other commercial applications," said Chris Ferguson, Boeing director of Starliner Crew and Mission Systems and a former NASA astronaut. "We look forward to spaceflight operations next year knowing that every measure to protect the flight and ground crew has been employed."

With more than a century of combined heritage, United Launch Alliance is the nation's most experienced and reliable launch service provider. ULA has successfully delivered more than 115 satellites to orbit that aid meteorologists in tracking severe weather, unlock the mysteries of our solar system, provide critical capabilities for troops in the field and enable personal device-based GPS navigation.

For more information on ULA, visit the ULA website at www.ulalaunch.com, or call the ULA Launch Hotline at 1-877-ULA-4321 (852-4321). Join the conversation at www.facebook.com/ulalaunch (https://www.facebook.com/ulalaunch), twitter.com/ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) and instagram.com/ulalaunch (https://instagram.com/ulalaunch).          
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2017 19:38:40
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/563827857814605824/zvKDJUvj_bigger.jpeg) ULA‏Подлинная учетная запись @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 26 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/848929369573785602)

Final qualification, loads analyses. Flight design. Final assembly. Preparing to launch #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlZJLWEm9E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlZJLWEm9E)
ЦитатаAtlas V Starliner 2017: Preparing to Launch Astronauts to the Space Station

United Launch Alliance is thrilled to be working with Boeing to launch astronauts aboard Boeing's Starliner atop ULA's #AtlasV rocket. Here's what's in store for 2017 as we prepare to launch astronauts to the Space Station beginning in 2018.

youtube.com (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlZJLWEm9E)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2017 20:06:18
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/521423780707454976/hem_spRb_bigger.png) SpaceFlight Insider‏ @SpaceflightIns (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightIns) 17 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/SpaceflightIns/status/848935619480965121)

Returning astronauts safely: Starliner test provides crucial re-entry data
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/boeing/returning-astronauts-safely-starliner-test-provides-crucial-re-entry-data/
ЦитатаReturning astronauts safely: Starliner test provides crucial re-entry data
April 3rd, 2017
by Tomasz Nowakowski
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A high-altitude balloon lifts off in White Sands, New Mexico, carrying a boilerplate of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner to perform a drop test of the spacecraft's parachute system. Photo Credit: Boeing
Boeing is currently in the midst of parachute drop tests for its CST-100 Starliner (http://www.boeing.com/space/starliner/) spacecraft, which are being carried out to ensure future astronauts a safe return from space. The latest test, conducted March 10, 2017 (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/boeing-cst-100-starliner-parachute-system-test-launch-lifts-off-successfully-from-spaceport-america-in-new-mexico-300422075.html), at Spaceport America in New Mexico, provided a wealth of data essential for the safety of crews during re-entry into the atmosphere.

During the test, a giant helium-filled balloon lifted off from Spaceport America, carrying a flight-sized boilerplate Starliner spacecraft up to about 40,000 feet (12,200 meters). It floated east across the San Andres Mountains for a parachute landing on the other side at White Sands Missile Range.
"What the balloon launch and release enabled us to do is to test the highest-fidelity Starliner capsule possible in terms of size, shape and weight," Rebecca Regan of Boeing's Defense, Space and Security (BDS (http://www.boeing.com/company/about-bds/)) division told SpaceFlight Insider, "Performing this in New Mexico enabled us to take the vehicle up to about 40,000 feet before releasing it."
 
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Seen from the top hatch of the Starliner boilerplate, parachutes deploy as planned to land the vehicle safely during a test of the parachute system. Photo Credit: Boeing

 After the capsule was released from the balloon, it deployed two drogue parachutes designed to stabilize the spacecraft at 28,000 feet (8,530 meters). Next, at approximately 12,000 feet (3,650 meters) above the surface, Starliner opened its pilot parachutes, while its main parachutes were deployed at 8,000 feet (2,440 meters), before the spacecraft's base heat shield was jettisoned.

"We placed sensors onboard the boilerplate spacecraft that collected data real-time, and we're able to provide that to NASA as insight into how we'll be giving astronauts a safe return from space," Regan said.

Engineers will use the data collected during the test to verify parachute inflation characteristics and landing system performance, as well as the altitude and descent rate of the Starliner spacecraft at touchdown. Analyses of the data will tell if the parachute system can stabilize and decelerate the capsule to a nominal terminal descent velocity, what is necessary in order to achieve a safe landing.

The parachute drop tests campaign is part of the final development and certification effort under way for the CST-100 Starliner in collaboration with NASA's Commercial Crew Program (https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/crew/index.html).

"These qualification tests are more comprehensive than our initial drop tests, which were meant to prove out concepts, capture data and influence the final design," Regan said. "We are now testing all of the subsystems and systems together and replicating the environment the spacecraft would encounter on an entry from orbit, including the parachutes, the avionics systems, the pyros and the deployment sequence."

While the test conducted in late February simulated a nominal return from space, Boeing now plans to introduce anomalies into future tests to see how the vehicle recovers from something like a drogue failure or a main parachute failure.

Starliner's next parachute drop tests in the New Mexico area are planned to be carried out over the next few months.

The CST-100 Starliner spacecraft was designed to accommodate seven passengers, or a mix of crew and cargo, for missions to low-Earth orbit. For NASA service missions to ISS, it will carry up to four NASA-sponsored crew members and time-critical scientific research.

Regan confirmed that Starliner is on track for an uncrewed orbital flight test in June 2018 and a crewed flight test to ISS with one NASA and one Boeing astronaut onboard in August 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWFgfUyqIxU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWFgfUyqIxU)
Video courtesy of Boeing
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 04.04.2017 02:00:07
Atlas V Starliner 2017: Preparing to Launch Astronauts to the Space Station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlZJLWEm9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlZJLWEm9E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlZJLWEm9E) (2:32)
ЦитатаОпубликовано: 3 апр. 2017 г.

United Launch Alliance is thrilled to be working with Boeing to launch astronauts aboard Boeing's Starliner atop ULA's #AtlasV (https://www.youtube.com/results?q=%23AtlasV) rocket. Here's what's in store for 2017 as we prepare to launch astronauts to the Space Station beginning in 2018.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 06.04.2017 23:22:39
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/581142401244262400/GRx8SDqE_bigger.jpg) NASA Commercial Crew‏Подлинная учетная запись @Commercial_Crew (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew) 2 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/Commercial_Crew/status/850046243854311425)

Boeing powered up its #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) spacecraft in its Florida facility in major step toward flights to @space_station (https://twitter.com/Space_Station): https://go.nasa.gov/2o6XJWW  (https://t.co/SsrCmFOeht)
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/04/06/boeing-powers-on-starliner-spacecraft-for-first-time/
ЦитатаBoeing Powers On Starliner Spacecraft For First Time
Posted on April 6, 2017 at 1:59 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/04/06/boeing-powers-on-starliner-spacecraft-for-first-time/) by Steven Siceloff (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/ssicelof/).
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Engineers for the first time powered up the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft that will fly Boeing's inaugural flight test of the next-generation spacecraft. Working inside Boeing's Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, the test team activated the flight avionics system for the Starliner known as Spacecraft 1. The system is the same astronauts will use for all Starliner missions.

The avionics is the complex suite of equipment and software that work together to maneuver the spacecraft in orbit, conduct the rendezvous and docking with the International Space Station and communicating with Mission Control on the ground. Whether under manual control by the crew or in automatic mode, the flight computers have to work seamlessly with the thrusters, guidance and navigation system and other subsystems to perform the mission and then return back to Earth safely.

The Starliner is being built as an upper half and lower half that will be bolted together following successful systems testing. Once completed, Spacecraft 1 will be launched without a crew on a flight test to demonstrate its capability to abort a mission from the launch pad in the unlikely event of an emergency. Later flight tests will demonstrate Starliners in orbital missions to the station without a crew, and then with astronauts aboard. The flight tests will preview the crew rotation missions future Starliners will perform as they take up to four astronauts at a time to the orbiting laboratory in order to enhance the research taking place there. Photo credits: Boeing

This entry was posted in NASA (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/nasa/) on April 6, 2017 (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/04/06/boeing-powers-on-starliner-spacecraft-for-first-time/) by Steven Siceloff (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/ssicelof/).
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 07.04.2017 01:51:51
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/563827857814605824/zvKDJUvj_bigger.jpeg) ULA‏Подлинная учетная запись @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 34 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/850108673259163649)

Step onto the launch pad & climb aboard @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense)'s #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) atop ULA's #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) for a #ULA360 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ULA360?src=hash) trip to the ISS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvnPiuRiwl0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvnPiuRiwl0)
ЦитатаRocket Launch 360: Atlas V Starliner

3,2,1...liftoff! Take a trip to the International Space Station aboard Boeing's...

youtube.com (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvnPiuRiwl0)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 08.04.2017 01:25:07
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/829884026/091004-780610_bigger.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 18 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/850465597766983684)

FEATURE ARTICLE: Commercial Crew on tight but achievable timeline for crewed flights in 2018 - https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/04/commercial-crew-tight-achievable-timeline-2018/ ... (https://t.co/NLIjUoi3MQ) - by @CwG_NSF (https://twitter.com/CwG_NSF)
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https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/04/commercial-crew-tight-achievable-timeline-2018/
ЦитатаCommercial Crew on tight but achievable timeline for crewed flights in 2018
April 7, 2017 by Chris Gebhardt

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The long and arduous process of achieving commercial crew transportation services to space is closing in on an important milestone. At a recent update to the NASA Advisory Council, NASA's commercial crew transportation services program manager discussed numerous aspects to SpaceX and Boeing's progress over the last few months and revealed that, while the timeline is tight, the two companies are on track for their scheduled crew demo flights of Dragon and Starliner in 2018.
...

Boeing - Starliner's progress:
According to the accompanying presentation for CCP to the NAC, Boeing has completed the Critical Design Reviews for both their ascent and entry suit systems for the crew as well as the base heat shield for the CST-100 Starliner (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Starliner) vehicle.

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Since the last NAC update, Boeing has completed wind tunnel testing of the launch vehicle adapter skirt, conducted International Docking Adapter and NASA Docking System testing at the Johnson Space Center, successfully dropped tested the parachutes and tested their deployment sequence, hot fired the launch Abort Engines with their new propellant valves, completed acceptance testing and RL-10 hot fire of the CFT engines, and performed quality testing at the Langley Research Center for the landing airbag system.

Moreover, the version 8.0 software release has been completed, gaining specific note fr om Ms. Lueders who praised Boeing, saying that "It's one of the few programs I've seen where the software is actually running ahead of the hardware."

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In terms of hardware, the Starliner Structural Test Article is at Huntington Beach, California, wh ere proof pressure testing was completed last December.

At the C3PF, the former OPF-3, at the Kennedy Space Center (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/09/cst-100-starliner-boeing-processing-facility-kennedy/), Spacecraft 1's Crew Module upper and lower dome outfitting work is on track to support power on testing this year.

The Spacecraft 1 Service Module's structural panels have also arrived at the space center.

Moreover, Spacecraft 2's upper and lower dome outfitting has begun in C3PF, and Spacecraft 3 is "progressing across the supply base," notes the CCP presentation to the NAC.

"So there's a lot of hardware in flow," stated Ms. Lueders. "But we need a lot of hardware in flow to be able to meet our schedule."

At present, Boeing's uncrewed demonstration flight is slated for June 2018 ahead of the crewed demo flight in August 2018.

...
(Images: NASA and L2 artist Nathan Koga - The full gallery of Nathan's (SpaceX Dragon to MCT, SLS, Commercial Crew and more) L2 images can be *found here (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38476.0)*))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 13.04.2017 21:40:58
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/535892510522875904/8iApe3sH_bigger.jpeg) Trevor Kilpatrick‏ @ularocketman (https://twitter.com/ularocketman) 12 апр. (https://twitter.com/ularocketman/status/852197019829522432)

Newest mission patch for @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch)'s #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) launching @Boeing (https://twitter.com/Boeing)'s #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) capsule! #welaunchedthat (https://twitter.com/hashtag/welaunchedthat?src=hash)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 13.04.2017 17:48:11
Шесть звездочек - надеются выиграть шесть пусков из восьми?)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Oleg от 14.04.2017 10:40:53
 .
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 14.04.2017 11:50:24
5 выиграть и один взорвать об землю
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Max Andriyahov от 16.04.2017 05:59:07
silentpom, О - оптимизм)))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 16.04.2017 18:20:04
я что ли один взрыв нарисовал???
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 16.04.2017 21:02:06
А где у Старлайнера САС?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 17.04.2017 07:07:44
у него RS-88 для этой цели. оригинальный двигатель был на спирту, то тут поменяли на вонючку
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дмитрий В. от 23.04.2017 08:42:20
ЦитатаAstro Cat пишет:
А где у Старлайнера САС?

В сервисном модуле.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 23.04.2017 23:35:59
Launch Abort System
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Странное однако решение поставить движки под служебным модулем, лишний груз таскать
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 24.04.2017 09:14:21
А топливо где брать?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Lanista от 24.04.2017 12:28:46
ЦитатаGarixon пишет:
Странное однако решение поставить движки под служебным модулем, лишний груз таскать
То ли дело у Союза, и СА и БО и ГО...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Garixon от 24.04.2017 18:52:59
ЦитатаLanista пишет:
ЦитатаGarixon пишет:
Странное однако решение поставить движки под служебным модулем, лишний груз таскать
То ли дело у Союза, и СА и БО и ГО...
ну может быть для "Союза" это оптимальный вариант, с его характеристиками :)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 26.04.2017 16:23:04
Despite delays, Boeing's Starliner moving steadily toward the launch pad
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/04/despite-delays-boeings-starliner-moving-steadily-toward-the-launch-pad/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: che wi от 03.05.2017 00:11:37
Aerojet Rocketdyne Successfully Completes Qualification Tests on Reusable Engine to Support Next Era of Human Spaceflight from the United States (http://www.rocket.com/article/aerojet-rocketdyne-successfully-completes-qualification-tests-reusable-engine-support-next)

ЦитатаSACRAMENTO, Calif., April 20, 2017 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Aerojet Rocketdyne, Inc., a subsidiary of Aerojet Rocketdyne Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:AJRD), has successfully completed hot-fire qualification tests of an engine that demonstrates the ability to meet reusability requirements for Boeing's Crew Space Transportation (CST)-100 Starliner crew module propulsion system. The tests were conducted on Aerojet Rocketdyne's MR-104J hydrazine monopropellant engine in Redmond, Washington. For NASA service missions to the International Space Station, Boeing's Starliner spacecraft will carry up to four astronauts and time-critical scientific research.

"Our engineers have incorporated a unique design that will allow the MR-104 engine to be used on multiple missions, providing the reliability, cost-efficiency and reusability our customer needs to be competitive in the current commercial space environment," said Aerojet Rocketdyne CEO and President Eileen Drake. "We look forward to delivering the engines for the crew module and continuing our proud heritage of enabling astronauts to fly to the International Space Station from U.S. soil."

The Starliner crew module propulsion system will use 12 MR-104J engines for reaction control to orient the vehicle during re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere. Prior to re-entry, attitude control is provided by the Service Module Engines, also provided by Aerojet Rocketdyne.

The MR-104J, designed by Aerojet Rocketdyne, was developed and tested under the company's Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) subcontract to Boeing. Similar to other reaction control system engines, the MR-104J includes additional features to increase redundancy that meet critical requirements and improved strength to withstand multiple shocks at operating temperatures. The engine upgrades also provide reusability for Boeing as it certifies Starliner crew modules for multiple missions.

Under the CCtCap subcontract to Boeing, Aerojet Rocketdyne will provide propulsion system hardware that includes Crew Module Reaction Control engines; Launch Abort Engines, Orbital Maneuvering and Attitude Control thrusters, and Service Module Reaction Control System thrusters. Boeing will assemble propulsion hardware into the Starliner spacecraft at its Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

(https://testforum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/70601)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 09.05.2017 15:47:55
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/760437859069390848/lorDxKoh_bigger.jpg) Tory Bruno‏Подлинная учетная запись @torybruno (https://twitter.com/torybruno) 21 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/861615045729439744)

Hardware! Structural test article for #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) #Atlas (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Atlas?src=hash) LV adapter
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 25.05.2017 22:36:30
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/05/25/test-dummies-provide-valuable-data-for-starliners-seat-design/
ЦитатаTest Dummies Provide Valuable Data for Starliner's Seat Design
Posted on May 25, 2017 at 12:23 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/05/25/test-dummies-provide-valuable-data-for-starliners-seat-design/) by Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/).
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Above and below right: Engineers working with Boeing's CST-100 Starliner test the spacecraft's seat design in Mesa, Arizona, focusing on how the spacecraft seats would protect an astronaut's head, neck and spine during the 240-mile descent from the International Space Station. Credit: Boeing
 
Every aspect of NASA's Commercial Crew Program spacecraft are being tested for the journey to and from the International Space Station to meet the agency's mission and safety requirements. Testing from Boeing and SpaceX demonstrates how the systems perform in flight-like scenarios. Engineers working with Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft recently lab tested their seat design focusing on how the spacecraft seats protect the head, neck and spine of the astronauts for the 240-mile descent from space.
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/wp-content/uploads/sites/230/2017/05/KSC-20170221-PH_BOE01_0001.jpg

The company incorporated test dummies for a detailed analysis of impacts on a crew returning to Earth. The human-sized dummies were secured in their crew module seats for 30 drop tests at varying heights, angles, velocities and seat orientations, all in an effort to mimic actual landing conditions. To simulate the return, the seats were suspended inside a metal frame and dropped to land on honeycomb-like panels at the base of the test stand meant to function similarly to the Starliner's landing airbags. The dummies were equipped with sensitive instrumentation to measure the impacts and high-speed cameras were used to capture the footage for further analysis. When the Starliner returns to Earth from the International Space Station, the spacecraft will be slowed by using a choreographed parachute system and will then land on large airbags to further soften the landing in the western region of the United States. The company also will test a full-scale mock-up of the Starliner spacecraft using male and female test dummies at NASA's Langley Research Facility.
The Starliner spacecraft is being developed in partnership with NASA's Commercial Crew Program. NASA is investing in private industry with a goal of resuming human spaceflight to and from low-Earth orbit from the United States. Starliner will launch on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket at Space Launch Complex 41 to fly up to four astronauts to the space station for NASA missions. NASA also has partnered with SpaceX to develop the Crew Dragon spacecraft and the company's Falcon 9 rocket. The SpaceX design calls for the Crew Dragon to return with a splashdown in the ocean. Both companies will launch from Florida's Space Coast. Together, the private companies will provide regular and reliable crew transportation to and from the microgravity outpost for NASA.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Виктор Левашов от 05.06.2017 16:32:40
ЦитатаGarixon пишет:
Launch Abort System
 
Странное однако решение поставить движки под служебным модулем, лишний груз таскать
По-моему: странное решение, что КК запросто кувырнуться может, если что, и носом - в землю. И парашюты не помогут.
Вот вам и САС.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Чебурашка от 05.06.2017 22:53:15
ЦитатаGarixon пишет:
Странное однако решение поставить движки под служебным модулем, лишний груз таскать
Единственный недостаток по сравнению с САС на башне сверху от СА в том. что сами баки и двигатели САС теоретически могут быть повреждены  в результате аварии ещё до того, как успеют сработать.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Кубик от 05.06.2017 23:11:04
ЦитатаЧебурашка пишет: Единственный недостаток по сравнению с САС на башне сверху от СА в том. что сами баки и двигатели САС теоретически могут быть повреждены в результате аварии ещё
до того, как успеют сработать.
Такого недостатка достаточно.. ;)  А тянущая САС более логична, чем толкающая..
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Алексей от 06.06.2017 09:33:56
ЦитатаКубик пишет:
ЦитатаЧебурашка пишет: Единственный недостаток по сравнению с САС на башне сверху от СА в том. что сами баки и двигатели САС теоретически могут быть повреждены в результате аварии ещё
до того, как успеют сработать.
Такого недостатка достаточно..  ;)  А тянущая САС более логична, чем толкающая..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_rocket_fallacy
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Leonar от 05.06.2017 23:40:06
Тянущая сас не сможет довывести кк если чтототам случится на этом этапе
Эта сможет...
Если конечно решены проблемы со скоростью реакции описанных выше и более часто происходимых в практике
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 05.06.2017 23:30:23
У Драгона между САС и ракетой стоит багажник. Так что вероятность повреждния САС мизерна. Кроме того, САС спрятана в корпусе капсулы и под ней теплозащитный щит. Что сводит все рассуждения про неправильную САС к нулю.
 Так что Маск переиграл тут Боинг.)))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Кубик от 06.06.2017 02:30:50
ЦитатаLeonar пишет: Тянущая сас не сможет довывести кк если чтототам случится на этом этапе
Эта сможет...
Разные задачи - спасти корабль или спасти миссию. Если довыведение на САС - это уже фактически РБ, дополнительно к основе РН.. Раз это включили в состав ПН, как систему двойного назначения - это вопрос к тем, кто считал шансы и выгоду. 
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 10.06.2017 17:22:57
А недостаток традиционной САС - что она сбрасывается задолго до окончания вывода.
И в случае взрыва верхней ступени - велика вероятность повреждения корабля, который просто нечем оттащить от неё.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 10.06.2017 16:53:11
ЦитатаДем пишет:
И в случае взрыва верхней ступени - велика вероятность повреждения корабля, который просто нечем оттащить от неё.
Потому что тогда уже смысла нет оттаскивать :)
Логика работы САС на начальном этапе выведения - в случае катастрофического отказа БОЛЬШИХ НИЖНИХ ступеней увести КК подальше, на случай развития взрывного разрушения ближних к нему верхних ступеней. А если что-то такое случится с последней ступенью, то либо уводить уже будет некого (расстояние маленькое, скорость развития НШС большая, автоматика не успеет сработать на упреждение), либо КК не будет поврежден и необходимости увода не будет (размер верхней ступени наименьший из всех, "тротиловый эквивалент" невелик).
Так что тут не никакого недостатка, это не баг, это фича.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 10.06.2017 21:18:15
Ну вот последние аварии с "Прогрессом" - взрыва как такового не было, но кораблю прилетело верхней частью ступени.
В результате чего он ушёл в закрутку с большой скоростью - и будь там "Союз" не факт что смог бы сесть. САС даже если бы не увела на достаточную дистанцию то по крайней мере сохранила бы ориентацию.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Михаил Иродов от 10.06.2017 20:35:25
ЦитатаДем пишет:
САС даже если бы не увела на достаточную дистанцию то по крайней мере сохранила бы ориентацию.
С чего бы вдруг?   :o
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 10.06.2017 20:38:56
ЦитатаДем пишет:
В результате чего он ушёл в закрутку с большой скоростью - и будь там "Союз" не факт что смог бы сесть. САС даже если бы не увела на достаточную дистанцию то по крайней мере сохранила бы ориентацию.
Сохранило бы ориентацию при срабатывании САС ПОСЛЕ закрутки? Ой ли...
А вот штатными средствами СА после разделения КК как раз можно было бы выправить ориентацию.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 11.06.2017 12:10:34
ЦитатаBell пишет:
Сохранило бы ориентацию при срабатывании САС ПОСЛЕ закрутки? Ой ли...
А вот штатными средствами СА после разделения КК как раз можно было бы выправить ориентацию.
САС аля Дрыгун-2 обладает достаточным моментом, чтобы выправить ситуацию.
А штатные средства вряд ли смогут преодолеть гироскопический эффект - и капсула будет тормозится не щитом а произвольной стороной.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 11.06.2017 11:53:41
ЦитатаДем пишет:
САС аля Дрыгун-2 обладает достаточным моментом, чтобы выправить ситуацию.
А штатные средства вряд ли смогут преодолеть гироскопический эффект - и капсула будет тормозится не щитом а произвольной стороной.
Потому что тянущая схема более устойчива, чем толкающая?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Дем от 12.06.2017 17:26:05
рассчёты показывают, что при жёстком креплении тяги, как в САС Союза, тянущая нифига не устойчивее.
Устойчивее управляемая.
А у отдельно взятой капсулы Союза вообще рулить нечем.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 12.06.2017 18:22:30
ЦитатаДем пишет:
рассчёты показывают, что при жёстком креплении тяги, как в САС Союза, тянущая нифига не устойчивее.
Это был вопрос с подвохом  :)
Для устойчивости ракеты не имеет никакого значения - тянущая или толкающая. Такие вещи надо бы знать...

ЦитатаДем пишет:
А у отдельно взятой капсулы Союза вообще рулить нечем.
Здрасьте, приплыли...
У СА Союза есть штатная система ориентации, которая изменяет положение капсулы при входе в плотные слои атмосферы и во время торможения.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 12.06.2017 22:28:21
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/760437859069390848/lorDxKoh_bigger.jpg)  Tory Bruno‏Подлинная учетная запись @torybruno (https://twitter.com/torybruno)  17 мин17 минут назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/874342792994201601)
Nice day in FL. Going to ride the Atlas/Starliner EES escape system tomorrow. Should be an E-Ticket ride... ;)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 12.06.2017 22:30:36
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/760437859069390848/lorDxKoh_bigger.jpg) Tory Bruno‏Подлинная учетная запись @torybruno (https://twitter.com/torybruno) 19 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/874342792994201601)

Nice day in FL. Going to ride the Atlas/Starliner EES escape system tomorrow. Should be an E-Ticket ride...  ;)  
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 14.06.2017 01:52:17
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/760437859069390848/lorDxKoh_bigger.jpg) Tory Bruno‏Подлинная учетная запись @torybruno (https://twitter.com/torybruno) 22 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/874755135485947904)

Best ride in Florida. #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Bell от 14.06.2017 01:29:10
А если при взрыве тот конец троса оборвется?  :oops:
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 14.06.2017 06:29:20
это будет не лучший райд по флориде
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Чебурашка от 14.06.2017 10:18:37
Так атракцион ещё пять лет для Ориона испытвали.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 18.06.2017 14:29:53
От 30 мая
Цитатаhttps://youtu.be/Wqfvpei0VaM (https://youtu.be/Wqfvpei0VaM) https://youtu.be/Wqfvpei0VaM
Published on May 30, 2017
As Boeing continues to work toward launches of the CST-100 Starliner in 2018, teams tested the spacecrafts seats in a lab to ensure astronauts will land safely on dry land after the Starliner returns to Earth.
p.s. говорят в настоящем - первый американский капсульный корабль приземляющийся на землю.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 28.06.2017 00:09:43
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/06/commercial-crew-providers-significant-progress-flights/
ЦитатаCommercial Crew providers making "significant progress" toward first flights
June 27, 2017 by Chris Gebhardt

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As the mid-way point of 2017 arrives, both of NASA's Commercial Crew Program service providers are making significant progress toward the first uncrewed test flights of their Dragon and Starliner capsules.

At their second quarter 2017 meeting, the Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel noted this progress while also discussing outstanding concerns regarding the program and vehicles as well as the positive steps being taken to address these matters.

Commercial Crew progress:
During last month's NASA Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel (ASAP) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=ASAP) second quarter meeting in Huntsville, Alabama, the panel noted the "significant progress" both Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=CCtCap) providers are making toward their first uncrewed demo flights.

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Regardless, SpX Demo-1 will be followed - under the current plan - by Boeing's (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Boeing) uncrewed OFT (Orbital Flight Test) in mid-2018.

Notwithstanding the ultimate commencement of the Commercial Crew Program (CCP) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=CCP) flight operations, the ASAP noted its concern and recommendations regarding CCP provider System Engineering & Integration (SE&I) process and controls.
 
...

A large portion of this section, unsurprisingly, focused on the LOC (Loss Of Crew) gap between what Dragon and Starliner are independently capable of providing v. what the CCtCap contracts require of them (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/05/nasa-evaluating-commercial-loss-crew-mishap/).

As previously reported by NASASpaceflight.com, the CCtCap contracts establish a minimum baseline requirement that Dragon and Starliner each meet a LOC criteria of 1 in 270 (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/04/commercial-crew-tight-achievable-timeline-2018/) - meaning for every 270 flights, only one would result in an LOC event.

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Currently, there is a gap in what the data analysis shows both Starliner and Dragon (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=crew+dragon) are capable of providing and that 1 in 270 requirement.

...

At the NAC meeting in March, Ms. Lueders stated that SpaceX and Boeing were "still updating MMOD protection and a few other critical areas including looking at operational controls, and when we get through all that we'll be in a better place to talk about our final LOC projection."

...

The ASAP at large concurred with this finding and noted their pleasure at the progress made in closing the LOC gap for both Dragon and Starliner.

...

Importantly, though, the ASAP meeting wasn't just focused on the panel's concerns. Considerable time was dedicated to a discussion and review of the progress both providers continue to make and where each provider is in terms of schedule milestones for their first uncrewed demo flights.

Presently, Boeing is moving through software release for Starliner, and the Starliner (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Starliner) STA (Structural Test Article) is progressing through its test regime.

Meanwhile, the first Starliner spacecraft - the one that will fly the OFT mission next year - has undergone initial power activation, and the builds for Starliner spacecrafts two and three are progressing inside Boeing's Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at the Kennedy Space Center (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/09/cst-100-starliner-boeing-processing-facility-kennedy/).

...

Finally, the ASAP noted that "Both providers have completed parachute testing for landings and are moving into production and qualification."

Moreover, SpaceX and Boeing have implemented solutions to several issues flagged by NASA toward the end of last year, and very few new issues have been identified to date.

(Images: NASA, L2 Shuttle and L2 artist Nathan Koga - The full gallery of Nathan's (SpaceX Dragon to MCT, SLS, Commercial Crew and more) L2 images can be *found here (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38476.0)*)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 06.07.2017 20:40:55
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/829884026/091004-780610_bigger.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 21 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/883011584917999616)

Dragon, Orion and Starliner on stage. I'd love a speech from those three.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 13.07.2017 21:24:27
Starliner meets milestones as ULA switches Atlas booster for maiden flight (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/07/starliner-milestones-ula-switches-atlas-booster-maiden-flight/)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 18.07.2017 18:05:49
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/760437859069390848/lorDxKoh_bigger.jpg) Tory Bruno‏Подлинная учетная запись @torybruno (https://twitter.com/torybruno) 2 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/887289806455160833)

Decatur has completed #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) PCM-1's Forward Truss Ring. Another step closer to sending Astronauts to space from American soil.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 20.07.2017 15:23:40
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/07/20/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-flight-dates/
ЦитатаNASA's Commercial Crew Program Target Flight Dates
Posted on July 20, 2017 at 7:00 am (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/07/20/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-flight-dates/) by Stephanie Martin (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/samarti9/).

The next generation of American spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to the International Space Station are nearing the final stages of development and evaluation. NASA's Commercial Crew Program will return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil, providing reliable and cost-effective access to low-Earth orbit on systems that meet our safety and mission requirements. To meet NASA's requirements, the commercial providers must demonstrate that their systems are ready to begin regular flights to the space station. Two of those demonstrations are uncrewed flight tests, known as Orbital Flight Test for Boeing, and Demonstration Mission 1 for SpaceX. After the uncrewed flight tests, both companies will execute a flight test with crew prior to being certified by NASA for crew rotation mission. The following schedule reflects the most recent publicly-releasable dates for both providers.

Targeted Test Flight Dates:
 Boeing Orbital Flight Test: June 2018
 Boeing Crew Flight Test: August 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1: February 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 2 (crewed): June 2018

This entry was posted in Boeing (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/boeing/), CCtCap (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/cctcap/), Commercial Spaceflight (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/commercial-spaceflight/), International Space Station (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/international-space-station/), Kennedy Space Center (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/kennedy-space-center-2/), SpaceX (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/spacex/) and tagged Boeing Commercial Crew (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/tag/boeing-commercial-crew/), Commercial Crew (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/tag/commercial-crew/), SpaceX (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/tag/spacex-2/) on July 20, 2017 (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/07/20/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-flight-dates/) by Stephanie Martin (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/samarti9/).
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 20.07.2017 17:24:47
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 12 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/888038509646274561)

Chris Ferguson's chart on CST-100 program notes test flights planned for "June-December 2018". #ISSRDC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISSRDC?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 20.07.2017 18:22:15
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 26 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/888049279314436096)

Ferguson: CST-100 designed to be reflow up to 10 times; that's the wave of the future and important for lowering costs. #ISSRDC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISSRDC?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 20.07.2017 18:30:25
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2794084152/26dd9b0f101b015fa9642502637cb17e_bigger.jpeg) ISS National Lab‏Подлинная учетная запись @ISS_CASIS (https://twitter.com/ISS_CASIS) 1 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ISS_CASIS/status/888039248628031489)

Christopher Ferguson, @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) provides overview of the capabilities of CST-100 Starliner at #ISSRDC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISSRDC?src=hash)

Video (https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/888039248628031489)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 21.07.2017 23:27:16
http://spacenews.com/nasa-and-companies-express-growing-confidence-in-commercial-crew-schedules/
ЦитатаNASA and companies express growing confidence in commercial crew schedules
by Jeff Foust (http://spacenews.com/author/jeff-foust/) -- July 21, 2017

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NASA, SpaceX and Boeing expect test flights of their Crew Dragon and CST-100 Starliner vehicles to take place next year after extensive delays. Credit: SpaceX artist's concept and Boeing

WASHINGTON -- Both NASA and the two companies developing commercial crew vehicles say those efforts remain on schedule for test flights that are in some cases less than a year away.

NASA published July 20 what it called "the most recent publicly-releasable dates" of the test flights of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner and SpaceX's Crew Dragon vehicles. Each company, under terms of Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contracts awarded in September 2014, are required to first fly an uncrewed test flight of their spacecraft, followed by one with astronauts on board.

The latest SpaceX schedule calls for an uncrewed test flight in February 2018, followed by a crewed test flight in June 2018. Boeing's schedule anticipates an uncrewed test flight in June 2018 and a crewed test flight in August 2018.

Those scheduled have slipped considerably fr om the original CCtCap announcement. At that time, NASA expected both vehicles to have completed their test flights and be certified for regular crew transportation missions to the International Space Station by the end of 2017. Both companies have suffered technical problems that have pushed back those flights, in some cases by more than a year.

A leading NASA official, though, sounded more confident about the companies' efforts towards those 2018 test flights. "Commercial crew is making great progress," said Kirk Shireman, ISS program manager, in a July 18 speech at the ISS Research and Development Conference here.

"By the next ISS R&D Conference, I expect to have flown the first Boeing CST-100 Starliner and SpaceX Crew Dragon flight," he said. The 2018 conference is scheduled for late July in San Francisco.

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Boeing is also confident in its ability to maintain its schedule. "We are in the middle of a very aggressive test program," said Chris Ferguson, director of Starliner crew and mission systems at Boeing, during a July 20 panel session at the conference. Prior to the flight tests, he said, is a pad abort test planned for early 2018 at White Sands, New Mexico, as well as ongoing parachute and drop tests.
Ferguson, in his presentation, said the flight test program would run from June through December of 2018, followed by NASA certification, and in an interview earlier in the day said those launches would take place in the "latter part of next year." He clarified, though, that the schedule of June and August test flights remains in place.

"Our schedule hasn't changed from June," he said in the interview. "That said, we've got challenges we've got to deal with and we'll let the schedule fall out wh ere it will."

Boeing may offer more clarity about that test flight schedule in the near future. Ferguson said that United Launch Alliance, who will launch the CST-100 on Atlas 5 rockets, requires a "non-handshake type of agreement" about 12 months before launch. "If there's going to be movement, of which there's been nothing planned yet, it's going have to occur soon just to keep it consistent with what ULA wants," he said.

Another upcoming milestone is the selection of a NASA astronaut to fly on the crewed flight test along with a Boeing test pilot. "Traditionally it's been about [launch] minus 12 months," he said of prior crew selections. "I think what they would like to do is have some schedule assurance before they go ahead and assign crews. Once they feel comfortable that they're about 12 months out from a crewed flight launch, I think you can see an assignment come out."

Ferguson said the first operational, or post-certification mission (PCM) for the CST-100 could fly as soon as next December, but that schedule is dependent on both the vehicle's development as well as ISS needs. "I think the next crewed mission to be assigned would launch in May of 2019," he said. "We're keeping a close eye on that. NASA has a void they'd like to fill there. We'd like to be there to fill it for them."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 24.07.2017 21:49:26
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 19 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/889553109973966853)

NASA's Steve Stich calls Boeing's comm'l crew test schedule in 2018 a "fairly aggressive time frame"; quarterly meeting later this week.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 04.08.2017 20:47:27
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1844231573/Boeing_twitter_avatar_bigger.png) Boeing Defense‏Подлинная учетная запись @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) 3 авг. (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/893162102709506053)

Ground control to major console: #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) dashboard delivered for crew flight test vehicle. http://bit.ly/2v2Vczd  (https://t.co/HsnXv3amJ9) #BoeingSpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoeingSpace?src=hash)
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http://beyondearth.com/ground-control-to-major-console-mesa-completes-space-dashboard/?sf103435894=1
ЦитатаGround control to major console: Mesa completes space dashboard

When two test pilot astronauts head into space aboard Boeing's CST-100 Starliner (http://beyondearth.com/space-exploration/starliner/) spacecraft, they won't just be looking out the windows to catch an array of breathtaking views.
It will be all business as they focus on the data coming off a console originally imagined and designed by a team in Houston, and later refined and built by a small team in Mesa, Ariz. The dashboard of displays, instruments and controls will be within arm's reach of the spacecraft's commander and pilot, much like the flight deck of a 747 aircraft or the cockpit in an Apache helicopter.

Operating on a rigorous timeline and working through challenges unique to human spaceflight, members of Mesa's Metals Center of Excellence, Electrical Center of Excellence and engineering organization came together to complete the design and manufacture in just less than a year. This innovation shows the power of pulling ingenuity fr om across the Boeing network.

The Mesa team also built a console that is hooked up to the Florida Systems Integration Lab, wh ere engineers are running through mission simulations and testing flight software. Building will begin soon on the third and final console for the spacecraft that is slated to fly the uncrewed orbital demonstration mission before it turns around for multiple NASA missions to the space station.

Starliner's first crew flight test to the International Space Station (http://beyondearth.com/space-exploration/international-space-station/) in 2018 will be Boeing's first commercial flight transporting humans to space.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 11.08.2017 23:21:39
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FEATURE ARTICLE: SpaceX and Boeing in home stretch for Commercial Crew readiness - https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/08/spacex-boeing-home-stretch-commercial-crew-readiness/ ... (https://t.co/5tUDOHrc7H) - by @CwG_NSF (https://twitter.com/CwG_NSF) Renders @kogavfx (https://twitter.com/kogavfx)
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https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/08/spacex-boeing-home-stretch-commercial-crew-readiness/
ЦитатаSpaceX and Boeing in home stretch for Commercial Crew readiness
August 11, 2017 by Chris Gebhardt

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With just one year to go until the scheduled completion of all uncrewed and crewed test flights for SpaceX and Boeing's commercial crew transportation services, the NASA Advisory Council recently held a routine review of the technical, hardware, software, and training progress the two companies are making toward the goal of returning the capability to launch people into space fr om the United States.

General Commercial Crew update:
At the end of July, the NASA Advisory Council (NAC) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=NASA+Advisory+Council) held a standard, two-day series of meetings with various NASA Directorates, gaining input and insight into the agency's continued work across a variety of fields.

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In specific regard to Commercial Crew (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Commercial+Crew), NASA's Deputy Manager for Commercial Crew, Steve Stitch, updated NAC members on the general progress of SpaceX and Boeing toward next year's inaugural crew flights of their respective vehicles.

In terms of significant pre-flight milestones still on the books for both SpaceX (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=SpaceX) and Boeing are the in-flight abort test for SpaceX and the pad abort test for Boeing.

Mr. Stitch noted that Boeing's pad abort test is slated for February 2018 with SpaceX's in-flight abort test scheduled for April 2018.

This would place the notional schedule of events for Commercial Crew next year as follows:
 February - Boeing: pad abort test
 February - SpaceX: Demo 1 (uncrewed) test flight of Dragon 2
 April - SpaceX: in-flight abort test
 June - Boeing: Orbital Flight Test (OFT - uncrewed) of Starliner
 June - SpaceX: Demo 2 (crewed) test flight of Dragon 2
 August - Boeing: Crewed Flight Test (CFT) of Starliner

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Additionally, with all 12 (six for each provider) of the Post Certification Missions (PCMs) for the six month crew rotations now awarded, Mr. Stitch noted that Boeing's first two PCMs are in work and that all of the milestones are completed for PCM 1 and half for PCM 2.

Mr. Stitch did not provide an update on where PCM planning stood with SpaceX.

Nonetheless, there is still a lot of work to do before the commencement of commercial crew transportation to the International Space Station (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Space+Station).

As Mr. Stitch noted to the NAC, "In terms of overall progress, we've made a lot of headway in delivering water recovery trainers for both partners, and both providers continue to work through a lot of critical testing of hardware.
 
"We are really in the middle of qualification of both spacecraft and also for the Falcon 9 Block 5 launch vehicle.  And so we're really in that hard part of development where you start to see lots of problems, but the contractors are showing a lot of promise working through those."

Mr. Stitch also noted that teams are busy working to clear items fr om the hazards list for the overall commercial crew program - including but not limited to the issue of closing the LOC (Loss Of Crew) gap with both providers (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/04/commercial-crew-tight-achievable-timeline-2018/).

"Inability to meet the LOC gap continues to be a concern, and we continue to work with the partners on how to reduce that.  Had a discussion with the ASAP recently with the LOC strategy and the numbers there (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/06/commercial-crew-providers-significant-progress-flights/)," stated Mr. Stitch.

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Notably, given the NAC's involvement and review beyond these regularly scheduled public meetings, there was no follow-on discussion or questions regarding the LOC gap posed by members of the NAC - indicating that work to close and/or disposition the LOC gap is proceeding to the NAC's recommendations and NASA's safety standards.

Additionally, Mr. Stitch went into great detail regarding Search & Rescue (S&R) in the event of a pad or in-flight abort.

"Search-and-rescue posture has been one of our top risks, and we've worked on that very hard for the last six months.  We now have the recovery trainers in place, and we're starting to work with the various rescue jumpers on how they're going to do that training."

A key element here is the budget allocated to S&R, as NASA is responsible for the coordination and cost of such efforts with the 88th Rescue Squadron while SpaceX and Boeing (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Boeing) participate to some degree.

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"We have delivered the rescue trainers, and we've completed a rescue trainer test with SpaceX in the Banana River. We had the 88th Rescue Squadron, and they were doing basic procedures of how they would approach a capsule and how they would have people get inside and how to get flotation power established," noted Mr. Stitch.

"This was a training to develop the procedures for how to go do all of that."

Moreover, Mr. Stitch noted that while a large portion of the risk for this had been the delivery of the trainers for both Dragon and Starliner capsules (a risk eliminated by the delivery of those trainers), there is an ongoing disagreement about the number of calendar months required to properly train rescue forces for each vehicle.

"We're still converging on [the training timeline]," stated Mr. Stitch.  "I think now that we have the trainers in place, we've actually taken a risk asset out and done some training.  And we can bring the schedule together to do some more training as early as August.

"We are still tracking this in our risk system, but we're making progress."
Boeing - CST-100 Starliner:
Under the list of recent accomplishments for Boeing, a slew of hardware deliveries to NASA and various test centers around the country all mark promising milestones for the overall OFT and CFT launch schedules.

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A new article for parachute testing has been delivered to NASA that will be part of a parachute drop test (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/03/chute-tests-starliner-asap-worry-rd-180-certification/) in September to study off nominal chute deployment and landing operations as well as serve as the first time heat shield deployment will be tested in a flight environment.

Moreover, Boeing has delivered a mock-up trainer of Starliner to building 9 at the Johnson Space Center (JSC), and testing of Starliner's Structural Test Article (STA) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/01/atlas-v-starliner-to-dry-tests-ahead-launch/) has made significant progress in Huntington Beach, California.

For the STA, Mr. Stitch noted that forward heat shield shock test has been completed.  The forward heat shield must jettison fr om Starliner so the drogue and main parachutes can deploy.

Both the jettisoning of the forward heat shield and deployment of the chutes create a shock as mortars fire to carry out both sequences; thus, the STA has been invaluable in concretely defining the shock environment's effect on the overall Starliner structure.

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Moreover, testing of the Starliner Service Module (SM) and Crew Module (CM) separation system to better understand how the complicated mechanism that has to sever lines and split the two spacecraft apart operates in various temperature extremes is also underway at Huntington.

On the other coast, Starliner spacecraft production is proceeding.  Spacecraft 1, which will be used for the pad abort test next year, is ready for upper and lower dome mate and leak checks.

The Service Module Hot Fire Test article (SMHFT) has been powered up in the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility (C3PF) at the Kennedy Space Center (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/09/opf-3s-conversion-boeings-c3pf-september-10/). The SMHFT will soon be shipped to White Sands for thruster testing and validation of the SM's propulsion systems.

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"In terms of production and qualification, a lot of work is transpiring at the C3PF," noted Mr. Stitch. "They have three full spacecraft in flow, but they'be spent a lot of time with the SMHFT article and assembling that test article.

"A lot of emphasis has been put on that because it needs to go to White Sands (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/07/starliner-milestones-ula-switches-atlas-booster-maiden-flight/). There are also two other service modules that need to get built up.  And many of the components for both of those are actually at KSC now."

Some testing of the SMHFT article has already occurred at Kennedy, notably leak checks of the SMHFT article's propulsion system. Those tests have taken place behind the C3PF, where Boeing has built their hazardous processing facility.

"That area is wh ere a lot of testing has been occurring for the SMHFT article," noted Mr. Stitch.  "They are in the process of doing a lot of checks and have been working through those in the last month and also testing all of the avionics and flight harnesses for the test article."

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In addition to serving as a test area for the SMHFT article, the hazardous processing facility is wh ere Boeing plans to load and offload reactants into and out of the Service Module and the Crew Module for flight operations.

But that's not the only major event that has recently taken place at the C3PF.

Spacecraft 1 recently underwent a software test wh ere the craft was powered up and data flowed from the craft at KSC to JSC in Houston, Texas.

"We've been working a lot trying to connect the avionics lab out at Sonny Carter with the Boeing facility at the C3PF," noted Mr. Stitch. "We have done several tests of the fiber optic connections, the idea [being] that you don't have to move the hardware back and forth [every time you want to] see how the spacecraft talks to the ISS flight computers."

Additionally, Boeing and NASA have completed the first single string software docked "talk" test between Starliner and ISS.

The test was positive, and a second test later this summer will use all three strings of the software system to ensure full communication between the two crafts once they're docked.

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Additionally, Boeing has also delivered the Starliner mission simulator to Building 5 at JSC and has completed several simulations for various phases of flight as they move toward wringing out the final bugs from Starliner's software.

The simulator "uses a real fight software, so it's a good way to start to understand the procedure development, how the crew displays will work, and really wring out the flight software and understand that," stated Mr. Stitch.  "About every week there is some kind of run that our joint testing has been supporting along with the crew over in Building 5."

In terms of Starliner's ride, ULA (United Launch Alliance) (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=United+Launch+Alliance) and Boeing have conducted an Emergency Detection System (EDS) integrated abort test.

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"[The EDS] is probably one of the newest things on the Atlas vehicle for Boeing (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=Emergency+Detection+System)," noted Mr. Stitch. "This is the system that looks at rates and pressures on the vehicle to determine when an abort should occur during ascent if needed."

Moreover, build of the Atlas V core booster, AV-80, and the dual engine Centaur upper stage for the OFT mission in June next year have begun at ULA's Decatur, Alabama, facility near Huntsville.

Also in terms of the Atlas V, the new aeroskirt design has completed its CDR (Critical Design Review) and has one more wind tunnel test slated for later this year.

The CDR was "a very big milestone," noted Mr. Stitch.  "Once we had the aerodynamic issues solved, we had to get into the design and how we would lay out the skirt and how there are a few panels that will blow out to allow the launch abort engines to fire."
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(Images: SpaceX, Boeing, L2 imagery, Brady Kennison (http://www.bradykenniston.com/) for NASASpaceFlight.com, and L2 artist Nathan Koga - The full gallery of Nathan's (Falcon Heavy to Dragon to Starliner, MCT, SLS, Commercial Crew and more) L2 images can be *found here (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38476.0)*)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 07.09.2017 18:34:15
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1844231573/Boeing_twitter_avatar_bigger.png) Boeing Defense‏Подлинная учетная запись @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) 18 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/905538620555227137)

#Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) made the trek to @NASA (https://twitter.com/NASA) White Sands Test Facility, ready to start 'hot fire' engine tests! Beyond Earth >http://bit.ly/2gLft9k  (https://t.co/fBNCsbroDK)
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http://beyondearth.com/starliner-to-start-hot-fire-engine-tests-in-new-mexico/
ЦитатаStarliner to Start "Hot Fire" Engine Tests in New Mexico

A test version of the CST-100 Starliner -- Boeing's Crew Space Transportation vehicle -- will soon begin a series of "hot fire" tests at NASA's White Sand Facility in New Mexico. Boeing is building the Starliner for NASA to transport astronauts to and from the International Space Station, with a first crewed flight test scheduled for next year.
The Starliner houses a single propulsion system that supports all the spacecraft's propulsion needs from ascent until deorbit burn after its departure from the space station. System capabilities will include maneuvering in space, or contingency abort scenarios, a feature that distinguishes Starliner from its Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and space shuttle predecessors.

The testing campaign will consist of simulated propellant flow rates for all mission scenarios; a fuel-loading demonstration; and hot fire tests that will include orbital maneuvers like docking with the space station, abort scenarios, and re-entering Earth's atmosphere.

The test module is one of three Starliner qualification test vehicles, including the structural test article, which is undergoing lab tests in Huntington Beach, Calif., and Spacecraft 1, which will be ground-tested before flying a simulated abort from a launch pad over the New Mexico desert.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 26.09.2017 09:17:00
Цитатаhttps://twitter.com/RiAus/status/912534935331733504
Commercial Crew Program from @Boeing (https://twitter.com/Boeing) for full orbit flight - 6 spaces: 5 @NASA (https://twitter.com/NASA) crew + possibility for 1 paying passenger. #IAC2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/IAC2017?src=hash)
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 https://twitter.com/SpaceKate/status/912534446041047040
Boeing's CST-100 Starliner will launch on an Atlas V. It's designed to carry 7 people or a mix of crew and cargo. #IAC2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/IAC2017?src=hash)

 https://twitter.com/jeffayton/status/912535311233814528
Starliner @Boeing (https://twitter.com/Boeing) @NASA (https://twitter.com/NASA) #astronauts (https://twitter.com/hashtag/astronauts?src=hash) to ISS -seven pax or mix cargo #IAC2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/IAC2017?src=hash) autonomous but pilotable -airbag cushion 4 final landing

 https://twitter.com/SpaceKate/status/912534994983174144
Boeing want to do a Starliner test flight in 2018 - certainly uncrewed, ideally crewed test also, says Chris Ferguson. #IAC2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/IAC2017?src=hash)

 https://twitter.com/SpaceKate/status/912535446986514432
CST-100 is autonomous - can fly and dock with ISS, but the astronauts have to be able to takeover and fly it also. #IAC2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/IAC2017?src=hash) @Boeing (https://twitter.com/Boeing)
Пилотируемый Возможно в 2018 году.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 26.09.2017 10:36:08
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/912534994211368960)

Chris Ferguson, Boeing: on track do at least uncrewed CST-100 test flight next year and "ideally" crewed test flight as well. #IAC2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/IAC2017?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 27.09.2017 14:38:17
Цитата https://twitter.com/Astro_Joao/status/912982251004100609
I got to fly a @Boeing (https://twitter.com/Boeing) Starliner and dock it (successfully) to the ISS. Exciting! #iac2017 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/iac2017?src=hash)
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Minister for Defence Industry, the Hon Christopher Pyne MP
Цитата https://twitter.com/cpyne/status/912943550433595392
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Чебурашка от 27.09.2017 14:41:06
А что это за красная круглая ручка на переднем плане?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Старый от 27.09.2017 16:10:26
Рычажков, кнопок и ручек достаточно. Интересно сравнить пульт управления с "с самым эргономичным" пультом Федерации.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 27.09.2017 16:37:03
Пишут что возить будут и не только НАСА
Цитата https://www.newsmaker.com.au/news/341985/seats-for-sale-as-boeing-launches-star-liner-spacecraft-iac2017#.Wct32Gi0M-V
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Boeing representative, Mr Tony Castilleja details the background to the new spacecraft. "The space shuttle cockpit had over 1,700 switches" he said. "Star Liner has about 60-70 switches". Mr Castilleja said that this was the minimum number of switches necessary for 'safeing' the vehicle. Safeing refers to an emergency situation where an astronaut takes control of the vehicle for a manual docking. "We do that for just in case" said Castilleja. "There is no need for human interaction with the vehicle. Our baseline design is that the vehicle flies itself".

The Starliner series of spacecraft have been designed with a commercial aspect in mind. Four of the five seats on the vehicle will be reserved for NASA astronauts. The fifth is up for grabs. "The fifth seat is open for sale to institutions, universities and other countries" Mr Castilleja said.  "I cannot reveal the price at this time" he said with a smile. "But currently the United States pays Russia 80 million dollars per seat to transport NASA astronauts to the ISS. Star Liner will be less than that and the commercial space market will drive the price down even further".
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Хотя как только за несколько дней не писали 7, 6 сейчас 5 местный.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Denis Voronin от 27.09.2017 15:43:25
ЦитатаЧебурашка пишет:
А что это за красная круглая ручка на переднем плане?
WASD, что ещё то это может быть?
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 27.09.2017 17:02:51
Цитатаhttp://spacenews.com/crewed-starliner-test-flight-could-slip-to-2019/
Crewed Starliner test flight could slip to 2019
by Jeff Foust (http://spacenews.com/author/jeff-foust/) -- September 27, 2017
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"We're in the thick of testing right now, with the intent of flying at least our uncrewed test flight next year, and ideally both our uncrewed and our crewed test flight," he said.

In an interview at the conference, Ferguson said that the company's current schedule calls for a pad abort test at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico in the second quarter of 2018. That would be followed by an uncrewed orbital test flight of the vehicle, launched on an Atlas 5, in the third quarter of 2018.

"If the results of that are very favorable," he said of the uncrewed flight test, "our crewed flight test is fourth quarter -- perhaps, depending on the outcome, maybe the first quarter of the following year."
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Ferguson said that the company plans to work with NASA to sel ect a crew for that crewed test flight about a year before its launch, or "L-12 months," but wants a greater degree of confidence in the schedule before doing so.

"Every day we're met with new challenges. We'll do our best to stick with that L-12 month target. Obviously, since it's based on a launch date, we'll have to flex accordingly," he said. "If we maintain our fourth quarter target for next year, you could probably see a crew announcement some time in the latter part of this year."

Once the Starliner completes the flight test program and is certified by NASA, Boeing has a contract for six flights to transport NASA astronauts to and fr om the International Space Station. Ferguson said the company is also marketing the vehicle for potential non-NASA customers.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 29.09.2017 00:11:09
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/09/28/drop-tests-at-nasa-langley-help-boeings-starliner-prepare-to-land-astronauts/
ЦитатаDrop Tests at NASA Langley Help Boeing's Starliner Prepare to Land Astronauts
Posted on September 28, 2017 at 3:52 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/09/28/drop-tests-at-nasa-langley-help-boeings-starliner-prepare-to-land-astronauts/) by Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/).

At NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, a mock-up of the Boeing Starliner spacecraft has endured a series of land landing qualification tests to simulate what the actual spacecraft and crew members may experience while returning to Earth from space.
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At NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, a mock-up of the Boeing CST-100 Starliner spacecraft goes through a series of land landing qualification tests to simulate what the actual spacecraft and crew members may experience while returning to Earth from space. The Starliner is being developed in collaboration with NASA's Commercial Crew Program. Along with SpaceX's Crew Dragon, the spacecraft is part of the agency's effort to return America's capability to launch astronauts from the agency's Kennedy Space Center in Florida to the International Space Station. Photo credit: NASA Langley/David C. Bowman

The Starliner is being developed in collaboration with NASA's Commercial Crew Program. Along with SpaceX's Crew Dragon, the spacecraft is part of the agency's effort to return America's capability to launch astronauts from Florida's Space Coast to the International Space Station, or ISS.

The team recently kicked off a new series of land landing tests, which is designed to measure the vehicle's airbag systems and how the crew responds to land landing scenarios.

"The accommodations inside the test article have become incrementally more flight-like throughout our test campaign," said Boeing test engineer Preston Ferguson. "And the test dummies simulating crew members are very sophisticated, allowing us to identify responses through instrumentation on the head, neck and lumbar areas."

The capsule - designed for landing on land, making it reusable up to ten times with a six-month turnaround time between launches - can accommodate up to five passengers to and from the space station. For NASA missions to station, the Starliner will carry up to four astronauts and about 220 pounds of cargo."

"The first test series verified that the vehicle would be stable in all landing conditions," said Richard Boitnott, Langley project test engineer. "We are constantly reaching higher levels of fidelity with our testing, and have flight-representative parts in critical locations."

Read the full story here (https://www.nasa.gov/langley/feature/drop-tests-at-nasa-langley-help-boeing-starliner-prepare-to-land-astronauts).

This entry was posted in Boeing (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/boeing/), Commercial Spaceflight (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/category/commercial-spaceflight/) on September 28, 2017 (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/09/28/drop-tests-at-nasa-langley-help-boeings-starliner-prepare-to-land-astronauts/) by Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/).
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 29.09.2017 01:12:20
https://www.nasa.gov/langley/feature/drop-tests-at-nasa-langley-help-boeing-starliner-prepare-to-land-astronauts
ЦитатаSept. 26, 2017

Drop Tests at NASA Langley Help Boeing's Starliner Prepare to Land Astronauts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0uqC0HZCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0uqC0HZCU)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0uqC0HZCU 0:10)
Boeing Starliner Landing Test
Credits: Boeing


At NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, a mock-up of the Boeing Starliner spacecraft has endured a series of land landing qualification tests to simulate what the actual spacecraft and crew members may experience while returning to Earth from space.
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The Boeing Starliner spacecraft is undergoing testing at NASA's Langley Research Center at its Landing and Impact Research Facility.
Credits: NASA / Dave Bowman


The Starliner is being developed in collaboration with NASA's Commercial Crew Program. Along with SpaceX's Crew Dragon, the spacecraft is part of the agency's effort to return America's capability to launch astronauts from Florida's Space Coast to the International Space Station, or ISS.

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The Boeing Starliner program has performed more than 20 landing tests to determine how the vehicle would fare on land.
Credits: NASA / Dave Bowman


The team recently kicked off a new series of land landing tests, which is designed to measure the vehicle's airbag systems and how the crew responds to land landing scenarios.

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Testing crewmembers at NASA Langley give a thumbs up after a test of the Boeing Starliner spacecraft.
Credits: NASA / Dave Bowman


"The accommodations inside the test article have become incrementally more flight-like throughout our test campaign," said Boeing test engineer Preston Ferguson. "And the test dummies simulating crew members are very sophisticated, allowing us to identify responses through instrumentation on the head, neck and lumbar areas."

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The Boeing Starliner spacecraft team recently kicked off a new series of land landing tests, which is designed to measure the vehicle's airbag systems and how the crew responds to land landing scenarios.
Credits: NASA / Dave Bowman


The capsule - designed for landing on land, making it reusable up to ten times with a six-month turnaround time between launches - can accommodate up to five passengers to and from the space station. For NASA missions to station, the Starliner will carry up to four astronauts and about 220 pounds of cargo."

"The first test series verified that the vehicle would be stable in all landing conditions," said Richard Boitnott, Langley project test engineer. "We are constantly reaching higher levels of fidelity with our testing, and have flight-representative parts in critical locations."

The Starliner program has performed more than 20 landing tests to determine how the vehicle would fare on land at NASA Langley's Landing and Impact Research Facility and in water at the Hydro Impact Basin under different conditions. These scenarios simulated landing velocities and angles the capsule could encounter during a typical land landing or an unlikely emergency water landing (https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/commercial-crew-partner-boeing-tests-starliner-spacecraft).

"All of the tests were defined through the analysis of worst-case situations," said Jim Gaspar, Langley project test engineer.

"We perform landing tests at the edge of the envelope to anchor analysis models and enhance crew safety for all potential flight scenarios," Ferguson said.

In addition to testing the Starliner when it contains a simulated crew, the airbags used for landing were put through its paces as well.

The airbags, which contain a mixture of compressed nitrogen and oxygen gas, might appear to the untrained eye like larger versions of automobile airbags. However, these airbags have key differences in how they handle occupant loads.

"The Starliner airbags have to be very robust compared to an automotive airbag to meet the requirements for landing and have an active venting system," Ferguson said

"An automotive airbag would just need to worry about the safety of its occupants. The airbags on the Starliner are tasked to protect the crew and the vehicle itself," Boitnott said. "You're dissipating thousands of pounds instead of just the mass of the occupant in a car."

The Starliner comes equipped with six outer landing airbags, which have inner airbags. There is a seventh airbag in spacecraft's center, but it would only be used in a water-landing scenario.

"The outer bag vents at impact. Then, the inner bag absorbs the impact and stays inflated," Gaspar said.

The airbags and other systems verified throughout the land landing test series will help ensure a soft return for the astronauts aboard.

Eric Gillard
NASA Langley Research Center
Last Updated: Sept. 28, 2017
Editor: Eric Vitug
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: zandr от 29.09.2017 07:23:11
http://tass.ru/kosmos/4601938 (http://tass.ru/kosmos/4601938)
ЦитатаСМИ: Boeing хочет выполнить первый пилотируемый полет корабля Starliner в конце 2018 года
МОСКВА, 29 сентября. /ТАСС/. Первый пилотируемый полет космического корабля CST-100 Starliner запланирован на III квартал 2018 года, но, возможно, будет перенесен на начало 2019 года. Как сообщил в четверг портал Space.com (https://www.space.com/38293-crewed-starliner-test-flight-could-slip-to-2019.html), об этом заявил на проходящем в Аделаиде 68-м Международном астронавтическом конгрессе руководитель программы создания Starliner в корпорации Boeing Крис Фергюсон.
"У нас сейчас - самый разгар испытаний систем корабля и мы намерены осуществить испытательный полет - по крайней мере непилотируемый - в будущем году, - отметил он. - Наиболее удачным вариантом было бы проведение и непилотируемого, и пилотируемого испытательных полетов".
По словам Фергюсона, нынешний график работ предусматривает проведение испытаний по аварийному прекращению процедуры запуска корабля на полигоне Уайт-Сэнд в штате Нью-Мексико во II квартале будущего года. После этого в III квартале 2018 года намечен непилотируемый испытательный полет. "Если непилотируемый полет будет удачным, то пилотируемый полет состоится в IV квартале или, в зависимости от результата, в I квартале следующего года", - заявил он.
Boeing разрабатывает корабль Starliner в соответствии с Программой коммерческих пилотируемых кораблей, финансируемой NASA. После того, как испытания корабля будут завершены, Boeing приступит к выполнению контракта с NASA по осуществлению шести полетов к Международной космической стации для доставки экипажей и грузов.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 29.09.2017 08:26:38
Цитатаzandr пишет:
http://tass.ru/kosmos/4601938
ЦитатаМОСКВА, 29 сентября. /ТАСС/. Первый пилотируемый полет космического корабля CST-100 Starliner запланирован на III квартал 2018 года, но, возможно, будет перенесен на начало 2019 года. Как сообщил в четверг портал Space.com (https://www.space.com/38293-crewed-starliner-test-flight-could-slip-to-2019.html) , об этом заявил на проходящем в Аделаиде 68-м Международном астронавтическом конгрессе руководитель программы создания Starliner в корпорации Boeing Крис Фергюсон.
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По словам Фергюсона, нынешний график работ предусматривает проведение испытаний по аварийному прекращению процедуры запуска корабля на полигоне Уайт-Сэнд в штате Нью-Мексико во II квартале будущего года. После этого в III квартале 2018 года намечен непилотируемый испытательный полет. "Если непилотируемый полет будет удачным, то пилотируемый полет состоится в IV квартале или, в зависимости от результата, в I квартале следующего года", - заявил он.
Одна статья, один Фергюсон, но ТАСС запутался при перепечатывании отсюда http://spacenews.com/crewed-starliner-test-flight-could-slip-to-2019/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 06.10.2017 00:34:03
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/10/05/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates/
ЦитатаNASA's Commercial Crew Program Target Test Flight Dates
Posted on October 5, 2017 at 4:20 pm (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/10/05/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates/) by Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/).
          
The next generation of American spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to the International Space Station are nearing the final stages of development and evaluation. NASA's Commercial Crew Program will return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil, providing reliable and cost-effective access to low-Earth orbit on systems that meet our safety and mission requirements. To meet NASA's requirements, the commercial providers must demonstrate that their systems are ready to begin regular flights to the space station. Two of those demonstrations are uncrewed flight tests, known as Orbital Flight Test for Boeing, and Demonstration Mission 1 for SpaceX. After the uncrewed flight tests, both companies will execute a flight test with crew prior to being certified by NASA for crew rotation missions. The following schedule reflects the most recent publicly releasable dates for both providers.

Targeted Test Flight Dates:
 Boeing Orbital Flight Test: August 2018
 Boeing Crew Flight Test: November 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1: April 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 2 (crewed): August 2018
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 12.10.2017 13:05:52
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/760437859069390848/lorDxKoh_bigger.jpg) Tory Bruno‏Подлинная учетная запись @torybruno (https://twitter.com/torybruno) 3 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/918416260819329025)

Very exciting! Mighty #Atlas (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Atlas?src=hash) Booster for OFT, the first #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) test flight, (uncrewed). @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) #LaunchAmerica (https://twitter.com/hashtag/LaunchAmerica?src=hash) #Boeing (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Boeing?src=hash)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 26.10.2017 03:07:02
https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2017/10/25/atlas-v-coming-together-for-uncrewed-orbital-flight-test/

или

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2017/10/25/atlas-v-coming-together-for-uncrewed-orbital-flight-test/
ЦитатаRocket Coming Together for Boeing's First Commercial Crew Flight Test
Posted on October 25, 2017 at 11:26 am (https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2017/10/25/atlas-v-coming-together-for-uncrewed-orbital-flight-test/) by Bob Granath (https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/author/rgranath/).

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The Atlas V rocket that will launch Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft on the company's uncrewed Orbital Flight Test for NASA's Commercial Crew Program is coming together inside a United Launch Alliance facility in Decatur, Alabama. The flight test is intended to prove the design of the integrated space system prior to the Crew Flight Test. These events are part of NASA's required certification process as the company works to regularly fly astronauts to and from the International Space Station. Boeing's Starliner will launch on the United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.
Photo credit: United Launch Alliance


The Atlas V rocket that will launch Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft for the company's uncrewed Orbital Flight Test for NASA's Commercial Crew Program is coming together inside a United Launch Alliance facility in Decatur, Alabama.
The uncrewed Orbital Flight Test is intended to prove the design of the integrated space system prior to the Crew Flight Test. These events are part of NASA's required certification process as the company works to regularly fly astronauts to and from the International Space Station. Boeing and United Launch Alliance have begun conducting integrated reviews of components, software and systems along with decades of Atlas data to ensure integrated vehicle test simulations are similar to real-life conditions during missions. Starliners for the uncrewed and crew test flights, including for the pad abort test, are in various stages of production and testing.

NASA's Commercial Crew Program is working with private companies, Boeing and SpaceX, as they each develop unique systems to fly astronauts for the agency to and from the space station. SpaceX is developing the Crew Dragon, or Dragon 2, spacecraft to launch on a Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Boeing's Starliner will liftoff on the United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

This entry was posted in Uncategorized (https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/category/uncategorized/) on October 25, 2017 (https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2017/10/25/atlas-v-coming-together-for-uncrewed-orbital-flight-test/) by Bob Granath (https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/author/rgranath/).
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 03.11.2017 11:47:29
An Assessment of Cost Improvements in the NASA COTS/CRS Program and Implications for Future NASA Missions 

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/7abegw/assessment_of_cost_improvements_in_the_nasa/

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20170008895.pdf 

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20170008894.pdf
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: sychbird от 03.11.2017 11:24:34
А резюме собственное в одной фразе не помешало бы. 
Лениво на планшет вытаскивать английскую пдэфку и шариться в ней.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: silentpom от 03.11.2017 10:00:52
в общем все в шоколаде, чтобы сравниться со стоимостью 1 кг для шаттла (попасть между спейсом и атк) надо делать 6 рейсов шаттлом, а реальные грузы есть только для двух. получаем экономию в 3-4 раза. 

(осталось раскурить какие у шаттла были 4.5 млрд  затраты в год на содержание)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Apollo13 от 03.11.2017 14:20:02
Цитатаsychbird пишет:
А резюме собственное в одной фразе не помешало бы.
Так в чем дело? Прочитайте и напишите.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 27.11.2017 20:45:31
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/829884026/091004-780610_bigger.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 52 сек. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/935201463390883840)

ARTICLE: Boeing Starliner trio preparing for test flights - https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/11/boeing-starliner-trio-test-flights/ ... (https://t.co/fkZRs5QCoM)

Includes more cool renders from @kogavfx (https://twitter.com/kogavfx)
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Цитата

Boeing Starliner trio preparing for test flights (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/11/boeing-starliner-trio-test-flights/)

November 27, 2017 by Chris Bergin
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 29.11.2017 23:19:42
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nac_ccp_status_nov_29_2017-2.pdf
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 29.11.2017 23:22:38
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 19 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/935961112461434880)

From NASA's Lisa Colloredo, schedule of commercial crew demo missions for Boeing and SpaceX in 2018:
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14 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/935962287969636352)

Milestone schedules for Boeing (top) and SpaceX commercial crew vehicles.
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8 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/935963803304460288)

Colloredo: very difficult loss-of-crew (LOC) requirement to meet for commercial crew, but made a lot of progress. Helped address the top drivers for LOC.

2 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/935965495240675330)

Colloredo: in the end, pretty likely Boeing and SpaceX will present data to argue they meet LOC requirement or come close. Will be up to NASA to do due diligence to confirm that.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 30.11.2017 03:43:57
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1291867805/jsc2003e55802_cropped_bigger.jpg) Christopher Ferguson‏Подлинная учетная запись @Astro_Ferg (https://twitter.com/Astro_Ferg) 53 мин назад (https://twitter.com/Astro_Ferg/status/936018967180738563)

So what does a fleet of spacecraft under construction look like? #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) - coming soon to a Galaxy near you.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 11.12.2017 19:40:29
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 5 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/940258455872516097)

Shireman: not unexpected Boeing and SpaceX commercial crew test dates slipped to the right; planning for those dates to slip further. No talks with Russia about buying additional Soyuz seats, though.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 04.01.2018 00:53:14
https://www.nasa.gov/specials/CCP2017/
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 04.01.2018 21:52:40
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg) Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/948938918325518338)

DCR = Design Certification Review, if you're curious (I was.) It "completes the design phase of the program, paving the way to operations," according to a ULA manager.
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/937905979865300992/o7etOvdP_bigger.jpg) ULA‏Подлинная учетная запись @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/948938243621441536)

One step closer! Successful #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) Launch Segment DCR complete as we prepare to launch astronauts to the @space_station (https://twitter.com/Space_Station) aboard @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense)'s #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash)! On track for uncrewed Orbital Flight test in August! #LaunchAmerica (https://twitter.com/hashtag/LaunchAmerica?src=hash) http://bit.ly/2lVgdbr  (https://t.co/VkGxCLX7Ap)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 04.01.2018 21:54:00
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/937905979865300992/o7etOvdP_bigger.jpg) ULA‏Подлинная учетная запись @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/948938870854438918)

The successful DCR completes the program's design phase. Final qual tests of hardware and software are underway + a major integrated test series, including structural loads. #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 04.01.2018 23:49:05
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/829884026/091004-780610_bigger.jpg) Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight) 59 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/949001955296399362)

ARTICLE: Atlas V flies through DCR ahead of Starliner debut - https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/01/atlas-v-flies-dcr-ahead-starliner-debut/ ... (https://t.co/HXbfJK4ioM)

Includes (a lot of) amazing renders by NSF/L2 artist Nathan Koga (@kogavfx (https://twitter.com/kogavfx))
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2 мин назад (https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/949016039534276610)

PS No one should read too much into the "both on the same August window?" That's how planning documents work. Right now, officially, SpaceX Dragon 2 in second quarter, then Starliner in August. Planning docs are like rocket pilgrims...always planning for potential slips. (https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f609.png)
Цитата

Atlas V flies through DCR ahead of Starliner debut (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/01/atlas-v-flies-dcr-ahead-starliner-debut/)

written by Chris Bergin and Danny Lentz | January 4, 2018
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 05.01.2018 06:25:10
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/937905979865300992/o7etOvdP_bigger.jpg) ULA‏Подлинная учетная запись @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) 8 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/948998743319343104)

These are the booster fuel tanks for the Orbital Flight Test of the  :?:  #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) in August. The booster is now in final assembly, and the OFT Centaur has completed pressure testing. #LaunchAmerica (https://twitter.com/hashtag/LaunchAmerica?src=hash) @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) http://bit.ly/2lVgdbr  (https://t.co/VkGxCLX7Ap)
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http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-completes-atlasv-starliner-dcr.aspx
ЦитатаUnited Launch Alliance Completes Key Milestone for Launch of Boeing's Starliner and Return of U.S.-based Human Spaceflight

Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla., Jan. 4, 2018 - United Launch Alliance (ULA) successfully completed an Atlas V Launch Segment Design Certification Review (DCR) recently in preparation for the launch of astronauts to the International Space Station from U.S. soil in The Boeing Company's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft. ULA's Atlas V DCR supported the Boeing International Space Station (ISS) DCR that was held with NASA at Kennedy Space Center in early December.
"Design Certification Review is a significant milestone that completes the design phase of the program, paving the way to operations," said Barb Egan, ULA Commercial Crew program manager. "Hardware and software final qualification tests are underway, as well as a major integrated test series, including structural loads. Future tests will involve launch vehicle hardware, such as jettison tests, acoustic tests, and, finally, a pad abort test in White Sands, New Mexico."

Launch vehicle production is currently on track for an uncrewed August 2018 Orbital Flight Test (OFT). The OFT booster for the uncrewed flight is in final assembly at the factory in Decatur, Ala., and the OFT Centaur upper stage has completed pressure testing. Other hardware such as the launch vehicle adapter and aeroskirt production are on schedule to support test articles and flight.

"ULA is progressing into the operational phase to launch the OFT and Crew Flight Test in 2018, and we are pleased with the progress we're making toward a successful launch of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner on the Atlas V," said Gary Wentz, ULA Human and Commercial Systems vice president. "We cannot overstate the importance of all the steps that go into this process as there is more than just a mission or hardware at stake, but the lives of our brave astronauts."

The Boeing Company selected ULA's Atlas V rocket for human-rated spaceflight to the ISS. ULA's Atlas V has launched more than 70 times with a 100 percent mission success rate.

With more than a century of combined heritage, ULA is the nation's most experienced and reliable launch service provider. ULA has successfully delivered more than 120 satellites to orbit that aid meteorologists in tracking severe weather, unlock the mysteries of our solar system, provide critical capabilities for troops in the field and enable personal device-based GPS navigation. ...
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 05.01.2018 06:51:10
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1844231573/Boeing_twitter_avatar_bigger.png) Boeing Defense‏Подлинная учетная запись @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) 9 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/948993016978726915)

Check out the #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) Pad Abort Test and Orbital Flight Test vehicles under construction! Now @ULALaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) #AtlasV (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AtlasV?src=hash) has the green light for production + ops for the rocket that will boost OFT uncrewed #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) flight to @Space_Station (https://twitter.com/Space_Station) Fall 2018! (https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2728.png) Go Atlas! Go Starliner! (https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2728.png)
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 05.01.2018 07:07:52
NASA Commercial Crew Program Mission in Sight for 2018 (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-commercial-crew-program-mission-in-sight-for-2018)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 05.01.2018 07:38:35
Краткая версия "NASA Commercial Crew Program Mission in Sight for 2018 (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-commercial-crew-program-mission-in-sight-for-2018)"

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/04/commercial-crew-2018-preview/
ЦитатаPosted Jan 4, 2018 at 4:00 pm on Commercial Crew Program (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew)
или

https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2018/01/04/commercial-crew-2018-preview/
ЦитатаPosted Jan 4, 2018 at 4:01 pm on Kennedy Space Center (https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy)
ЦитатаCommercial Crew 2018 Preview
Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/)

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NASA and industry partners, Boeing and SpaceX, are targeting the return of human spaceflight from Florida's Space Coast in 2018. Both companies are scheduled to begin flight tests to prove the space systems meet NASA's requirements for certification in the coming year.
Since NASA awarded contracts to Boeing and SpaceX, the companies have matured space system designs and now have substantial spacecraft and launch vehicle hardware in development and testing in preparation for the test flights. The goal of the Commercial Crew Program is safe, reliable and cost-effective transportation to and from the International Space Station from the United States through a public-private approach. NASA, Boeing and SpaceX have significant testing underway, which will ultimately lead to test missions when the systems are ready and meet safety requirements.

Boeing's Starliner will launch on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 and SpaceX's Crew Dragon will launch on the company's Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A.

After completion of each company's uncrewed and crewed flight tests, NASA will review the flight data to verify the systems meet the requirements for certification. Upon NASA certification, the companies are each slated to fly six crew missions to the International Space Station beginning in 2019 and continuing through 2024.

Here's a look at (some of) what's ahead in 2018:

Boeing

Spacecraft: In 2018, Boeing will continue with the production and outfitting of three crew modules and multiple service modules inside the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Boeing already has a structural version of its spacecraft going through loads, shock and separation test events in Huntington Beach, California. It will conduct a series of service module hot-fire tests in White Sands, New Mexico, as well as environmental testing to include thermal, vacuum and electromagnetic frequency in El Segundo, California.

Spacesuit: Boeing's spacesuit will continue to undergo integrated system verification tests. These include environmental control and life support system testing, immersing the suit in water, egress demos with the aid of virtual reality, suited launch and landing cabin operations, prelaunch emergency exit with ground crews, ascent simulations with mission operations teams and post-landing egress.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 11.01.2018 23:00:05
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/11/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates-2/
ЦитатаNASA's Commercial Crew Program Target Test Flight Dates
Anna Heiney
Posted on January 11, 2018
                   
The next generation of American spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to the International Space Station are nearing the final stages of development and evaluation. NASA's Commercial Crew Program will return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil, providing reliable and cost-effective access to low-Earth orbit on systems that meet our safety and mission requirements. To meet NASA's requirements, the commercial providers must demonstrate that their systems are ready to begin regular flights to the space station. Two of those demonstrations are uncrewed flight tests, known as Orbital Flight Test for Boeing, and Demonstration Mission 1 for SpaceX. After the uncrewed flight tests, both companies will execute a flight test with crew prior to being certified by NASA for crew rotation missions. The following schedule reflects the most recent publicly releasable dates for both providers.

Targeted Test Flight Dates:
 Boeing Orbital Flight Test (uncrewed): August 2018
 Boeing Crew Flight Test (crewed): November 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1 (uncrewed): August 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 2 (crewed): December 2018
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 12.01.2018 22:09:26
http://tass.ru/kosmos/4870845
ЦитатаFox: NASA отложило пилотируемые полеты кораблей SpaceX и Boeing до весны 2019 года
12 января, 19:11 UTC+3
 По данным телеканала, решение приняли из-за высокого риска внештатных ситуаций и аварий при эксплуатации этих коммерческих кораблей
 
НЬЮ-ЙОРК, 12 января. /ТАСС/. Национальное управление по аэронавтике и исследованию космического пространства (NASA) США отложило до весны 2019 года начало регулярных пилотируемых полетов космических кораблей, разработанных американской компанией SpaceX и корпорацией Boeing. Решение обусловлено слишком высоким риском внештатных ситуаций и аварий при эксплуатации этих коммерческих кораблей, сообщил в пятницу телеканал Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/).
До этого предполагалось, что первый подобный полет мог быть выполнен уже в этом году.
Американцы для доставки грузов на Международную космическую станцию используют корабли Cygnus компании Orbital ATK и Dragon производства SpaceX.

Эксперты не рекомендуют
Телеканал ссылается на насчитывающий 38 страниц доклад девяти экспертов NASA в области обеспечения безопасности космических полетов. В нем перечислены изъяны в конструкции кораблей этих компаний, представляющие риск при доставке людей на орбиту Земли. Среди них - нетрадиционные системы заправки ракетным топливом, пагубные последствия бомбардировки космических капсул фрагментами метеоров, комет или космического мусора.
Как напоминает телеканал, NASA давно постановило, что статистический предел гибели астронавтов во время миссий не должен превышать одного случая на каждые 270 полетов. Эксперты космического ведомства США заключили, что корабли SpaceX и Boeing, несмотря на годы испытаний и многочисленные успешные миссии, не будут соответствовать этому параметру в случае начала транспортировки людей на орбиту или Луну.
В частности, беспокойство выражено по поводу способа заправки горючим ракеты-носителя Falcon 9 производства SpaceX и конструкции ее внешних топливных баков. NASA и подчиненные главы компании Илона Маска провели консультации на этот счет, однако ряд вопросов все еще остаются без ответа, что не позволяет получить "добро" космического ведомства на начало доставки астронавтов на орбиту.

Планы корректируются
По данным телеканала, SpaceX перенесла первый пилотируемый пуск с лета этого года на декабрь. Boeing рассчитывала отправить корабль с астронавтами на борту в предстоящем ноябре, хотя и допускал прежде, что это станет возможным только в 2019 году.
Как сообщалось ранее, в минувший понедельник SpaceX запустила Falcon 9, который должен был вывести на орбиту секретный спутник США под кодовым обозначением Zuma. О судьбе спутника до сих пор официальных данных нет. Компания Маска настаивает на том, что ее ракета сработала в штатном режиме и не несет ответственности за случившееся с аппаратом.
В четверг SpaceX второй раз отложила огневые испытания сверхтяжелого носителя Falcon Heavy на мысе Канаверал (штат Флорида). В тот же день американская компания United Launch Alliance (ULA) отложила на сутки запуск ракеты-носителя Delta IV со спутником NROL-47 Национального управления военно-космической разведки со стартового комплекса базы ВВС США Ванденберг в Калифорнии. ULA является совместным предприятием авиационных гигантов Boeing и Lockheed Martin.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 12.01.2018 22:43:43
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
Targeted Test Flight Dates:
 Boeing Orbital Flight Test (uncrewed): August 2018
 Boeing Crew Flight Test (crewed): November 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1 (uncrewed): August 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 2 (crewed): December 2018
ЦитатаSalo пишет:
до весны 2019 года начало регулярных пилотируемых полетов космических кораблей
А далее там отсюда замечания, но там даты на ноябрь 2017 года  ;)  
Годовой отчет по безопасности 
https://oiir.hq.nasa.gov/asap/documents/2017_ASAP_Annual_Report.pdf

И лучше читать его чем ".В нем перечислены изъяны в конструкции кораблей этих компаний, представляющие риск при доставке людей на орбиту Земли.....  Эксперты космического ведомства США заключили, что корабли SpaceX и Boeing, несмотря на годы испытаний и многочисленные успешные миссии, не будут соответствовать этому параметру в случае начала транспортировки людей на орбиту или Луну. "
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Чебурашка от 12.01.2018 23:24:08
А если по методике ASAP оценить вероятность LOC для Союза?
Интересно сколько будет.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 27.01.2018 08:00:23
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/18/mixed-reality-technology-helps-nasa-astronauts-prepare-for-starliner-returns-from-the-space-station/
ЦитатаMixed Reality Technology Helps NASA Astronauts Prepare for Starliner Returns from the Space Station

Anna Heiney (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/aheiney/)
Posted Jan 18, 2018


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NASA's Commercial Crew Program astronauts, wearing spacesuits and augmented reality headsets, rehearse returning to Earth from the International Space Station during recent testing at Boeing's Extended Reality Laboratory in Philadelphia. The astronauts are seated upside down so they can practice releasing their seat harness and moving to the side hatch of the Starliner without assistance. The astronauts wearing the mixed reality gear see a digital version of the interior of the Starliner as it would look in the real-life scenario while interacting with the environment around them. Photo credit: Boeing

NASA's Commercial Crew Program astronauts training to fly test missions to and from the International Space Station are practicing returning to Earth from the microgravity laboratory. Recent testing at Boeing's Extended Reality Laboratory in Philadelphia combines mixed reality simulations with astronauts wearing spacesuits and augmented reality headsets, and secured in mock-up Starliner seats - the spacecraft being developed by Boeing. The testing allows astronauts to perform an exit from their seats in uncommon landing conditions. The astronauts are seated upside down so they can practice releasing their seat harness and moving to the side hatch of the Starliner without assistance. The astronauts wearing the mixed reality gear see a digital version of the interior of the Starliner as it would look in the real-life scenario while interacting with the environment around them.
In total, 30 practice runs were completed, some to familiarize the crew with the exit procedures and some additional timed runs. The Starliner is designed to land in the Western United States under parachutes and touch down on airbags located on the bottom of the spacecraft. In the event that the capsule does not land upright, testing in extreme conditions helps prepare astronauts for any situation, including an inverted position.

Boeing already has completed a series of parachute drop tests and full-scale landing qualification tests to understand a wide range of spacecraft conditions when returning to earth. The company also has used test dummies in stand-alone seat tests and incorporated the dummies into landing drop tests to understand impacts to crew members.

Both Boeing and SpaceX have been working with the astronauts training to fly the test missions to the International Space Station. The two commercial providers have been developing unique systems to meet the goal of returning crew launches to the United States. Boeing's Starliner will launch on the United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. SpaceX is developing the Crew Dragon, or Dragon 2, spacecraft to launch on the company's Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A. Both companies will begin their journeys from Florida's Space Coast. Boeing plans to return on land, while SpaceX will splash down in the Atlantic Ocean. Recent SpaceX testing for return to Earth has included rescue and recovery training in the Atlantic with spacesuit-clad astronauts and personnel who will assist upon return to Earth.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 09.02.2018 15:11:41
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/02/08/nasas-continued-focus-on-returning-u-s-human-spaceflight-launches/
ЦитатаNASA's Continued Focus on Returning U.S. Human Spaceflight Launches

Stephanie Martin (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/author/samarti9/)
Posted Feb 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm


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NASA's Commercial Crew Program and private industry partners, Boeing and SpaceX, continue to develop the systems that will return human spaceflight to the United States. Both commercial partners are undertaking considerable amounts of testing in 2018 (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-commercial-crew-program-mission-in-sight-for-2018) to prove space system designs and the ability to meet NASA's mission and safety requirement for regular crew flights to the International Space Station.

"The work Boeing and SpaceX are doing is incredible. They are manufacturing spaceflight hardware, performing really complicated testing and proving their systems to make sure we get it right." said Kathy Lueders, program manager NASA Commercial Crew Program. "Getting it right is the most important thing."
Both Boeing and SpaceX plan to fly test missions without crew to the space station prior to test flights with a crew onboard this year. After each company's test flights, NASA will work to certify the systems and begin post-certification crew rotation missions. The current flight schedules for commercial crew systems provide about six months of margin to begin regular, post-certification crew rotation missions to the International Space Station before contracted flights on Soyuz flights end in fall 2019.

As part of the agency's normal contingency planning, NASA is exploring multiple scenarios as the agency protects for potential schedule adjustments to ensure continued U.S. access to the space station. One option under consideration would extend the duration of upcoming flight tests with crew targeted for the end of 2018 on the Boeing CST-100 Starliner and SpaceX Crew Dragon. The flights could be extended longer than the current two weeks planned for test flights, and likely less than a six-month full-duration mission. The agency also is assessing whether there is a need to add another NASA crew member on the flight tests.

This would not the first time NASA has expanded the scope of test flights. NASA had SpaceX carry cargo on its commercial demonstration flight to the International Space Station in 2012, which was not part of the original agreement. This decision allowed NASA to ensure the crew aboard the space station had the equipment, food and other supplies needed on the station after the end of the agency's Space Shuttle Program.

As with all contingency plans, the options will receive a thorough review by the agency, including safety and engineering reviews. NASA will make a decision on these options within the next few months to begin training crews.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 15.03.2018 10:58:23
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/964295333252665344/tTCF1uKz_bigger.jpg)Chris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF) 8 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/974069552484143105)

Interesting. Bob Cabana, @NASAKennedy (https://twitter.com/NASAKennedy) Center Director, says current schedule is SpaceX/Boeing uncrewed test flights in August. #Boeing (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Boeing?src=hash) crew flight in November. #SpaceX (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash) crew flight in December this year. #CommercialCrew (https://twitter.com/hashtag/CommercialCrew?src=hash)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Чебурашка от 15.03.2018 17:56:07
От он какой северный олень

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 15.03.2018 18:54:15
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 15.03.2018 19:19:25
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/15/behind-the-scenes-at-boeings-starliner-space-capsule-plant.html
ЦитатаLook inside Boeing's race against SpaceX to launch the next generation of human spaceflight

Michael Sheetz (https://www.cnbc.com/michael-sheetz/) | @thesheetztweetz (https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz)
Published 2 Hours Ago | Updated 2 Hours Ago


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On July 21, 2011, astronaut Chris Ferguson guided the Atlantis back to Earth to conclude the final space shuttle mission. It was the end of an era for launching humans to space fr om American soil -- one he says brought tumbleweeds and empty parking lots to NASA's Kennedy Space Center.

"But then the gates opened in 2014 and tumbleweeds stopped blowing across the road and the cars started showing up in the parking lot," Ferguson, who is now Boeing's director of Starliner crew and mission systems, told CNBC.

Boeing (https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=BA) and SpaceX are competing -- the former with its Starliner capsules and the latter its Dragon capsules -- to fulfill contracts for NASA's Commercial Crew (https://www.nasa.gov/content/commercial-crew-overview) program to ferry astronauts to and fr om the International Space Station. Both companies are on track to test uncrewed variations in August, according to the most recent NASA announcements, with crewed tests no earlier than November for Boeing and December for SpaceX.

With Starliner nearing its first launch, Boeing took CNBC for a look inside the company's assembly plant at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
Three Starliner capsules in progress

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Boeing
An interior look at one of the capsule's service modules.


Boeing has three spacecraft in progress - Starliners 1, 2 and 3. The first is a launch-abort test module to be used to certify crew escape systems in the event of an emergency. The second is for the crew test and will actually fly after the third, which is being used for the uncrewed test.

"You make sure that you have failure capability that you can degrade gracefully to where you're never in a spot where you can't get the humans home safely," Ferguson said.

That level of safety is not a worry for current U.S. launches of unmanned satellites. But Starliner requires "building a level of redundancy into a vehicle that, no matter how bad of a day, we can always get them home safely," Ferguson said.

Sharing innovations within Boeing

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Boeing engineers work on the Starliner capsule's frame.


As a company with three multibillion-dollar divisions, Boeing is known for its work as an airplane manufacturer and a defense contractor before its space businesses. But the company says Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg is trying to change that with his "One Boeing" initiative, so the company shares resources and talent from within.

One example of Boeing applying Muilenburg's principle is when the company brought in engineers from the commercial airplanes division to teach those in the Starliner program how to use a "shimming tool." In essence, the specialized tool was capable of drilling and installing the black seams (seen below) in a few hours. When done by hand, each seam would have taken about a month to install.

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A close-up of one of the capsule's service modules.


Investments made to refurbish shuttle-era infrastructure

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The Starliner facility's Space Shuttle-era hangar doors, wh ere the underlying infrastructure is visible under the new Boeing remodeling.


Ferguson says that when Boeing got the Starliner contract in 2014, "the money began to flow and we were able to make this big infrastructure investment to pursue spaceflight."

Starliner's plant was repurposed from the space shuttle days after investment from Space Florida and Boeing. The outline of the shuttle is still visible in the hangar doors, wh ere one can see a cut high in the wall for its tail.

"But as you can see, from that white line on down, this is a new facility. All of the services are new," Ferguson said.

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The Starliner facility's underlying Space Shuttle-era infrastructure is visible under the Boeing remodeling.


Learning from the space shuttle

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Boeing engineers in "bunny suits" work on a Starliner capsule in a clean room.


Many Starliner employees took part in building and refurbishing shuttles, Ferguson said. While the shuttles were never quite what NASA dreamed they would be, Starliner is built from lessons learned from that program.

The difference is in "how we've exploited the technology we developed for other programs and repurposed it to use here," Ferguson said.

Taking something as simple as a small handle used to break the windows of the shuttle to escape, Ferguson explained that the shuttle had a "nifty handle they made just for that explicit purpose."

"We have our own version of that handle but it's a repurposed F-15 [fighter jet] ordinance selection handle. So we didn't have to make a one-off," Ferguson said. You'd be hard-pressed to find "one-off parts with this vehicle."

"The space shuttle had 1,100 switches, things you could touch. I retired and I still don't think I knew what every switch in that shuttle did," Ferguson said.

Starliner has "on the order of 40," he said, making it a lot more akin to a modern commercial airline cockpit.

The future of commercial space

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A Boeing Starliner capsule near completion.


"The space shuttle, in 2010 dollars, cost between $35 [billion] and $40 billion to develop," Ferguson said.

Beyond the development cost, he noted, it cost $3 billion per year to operate, all for about a half-dozen launches each year.

By comparison, Starliner's contract is worth $4.2 billion for Boeing to build three spacecraft. The company contracted United Launch Alliance to deliver two test flights and six service flights.

Ferguson thinks NASA has "the right approach" to the modern era of the space industry.

"They're underwriting the development of commercial capabilities with the hope that, if they kick-start this, then commercial companies [can] go find other sustaining businesses that can keep them going so that they become entities in and of themselves," Ferguson said.

And from there, "NASA can buy services off of them," Ferguson added, bringing costs for below what has ever been seen before.

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A Starliner capsule near completion, with its heat shield underbelly visible in the foreground.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Astro Cat от 15.03.2018 19:53:41
Че то готовность не впечатляет. Еще пахать и пахать.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: triage от 19.03.2018 16:30:38
Цитатаtnt22 пишет:
 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/15/behind-the-scenes-at-boeings-starliner-space-capsule-plant.html
Boeing has three spacecraft in progress - Starliners 1, 2 and 3. The first is a launch-abort test module to be used to certify crew escape systems in the event of an emergency. The second is for the crew test and will actually fly after the third, which is being used for the uncrewed test.

Цитатаhttps://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/974310257999654913
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 https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/974349289630650368
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Цитатаhttps://twitter.com/jodigralnick/status/974325063053991936
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Цитата https://youtu.be/YquBmaJo1So
https://youtu.be/YquBmaJo1So (https://youtu.be/YquBmaJo1So)
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 20.03.2018 20:35:10
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000149454500/c2e974df2f92ce57b2c8db329f5da805_bigger.png)Emre Kelly‏Подлинная учетная запись @EmreKelly (https://twitter.com/EmreKelly) 32 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/976141104591630336)

Updated commercial crew slide from KSC Director Cabana's presentation today; appears to be as expected. Uncrewed Boeing and SpaceX flights in August, crewed in November and December, respectively. More details in photo.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 26.03.2018 23:42:40
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/584065468337623040/eVtOSdRl_bigger.jpg)  Eric Berger‏Подлинная учетная запись @SciGuySpace (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace)
Commercial crew milestones as of the end of 2017.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 27.03.2018 00:41:50
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg)Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 4 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/978331612109787146)

Update slide on commercial crew from NASA's Kathy Lueders. No change in dates yet for either company, but dates "constantly under review."
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 27.03.2018 00:51:20
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/509029699322793984/zWjKFe63_bigger.jpeg)Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 3 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/978336973625724928)

Boeing CST-100 Starliner development update.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 27.03.2018 01:13:13
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/584065468337623040/eVtOSdRl_bigger.jpg)Eric Berger‏Подлинная учетная запись @SciGuySpace (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace) 7 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/978294899010408448)

Update (as of January) on commercial crew tasks completed, and remaining.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 27.03.2018 01:52:49
Цитата (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/584065468337623040/eVtOSdRl_bigger.jpg)  Eric Berger‏Подлинная учетная запись @SciGuySpace (https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace)
Update on Boeing's first Starliner flight vehicle (which won't carry crew). Rocket coming along too.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: Salo от 27.03.2018 08:10:08
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/ccp_presentation_for_nac_public_session.pdf
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 03.04.2018 21:07:14
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/474860222595362817/xZ0rvHeF_bigger.png)Ed Van Cise‏Подлинная учетная запись @Carbon_Flight (https://twitter.com/Carbon_Flight) 46 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Carbon_Flight/status/981219564909457410)

Boeing Mission Operations (MO) continues to prepare to fly the first #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) test flight later this year for @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense). As part of our prep, we've created our MO patch for that Orbital Flight Test (OFT) mission.
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Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/474860222595362817/xZ0rvHeF_bigger.png)Ed Van Cise‏Подлинная учетная запись @Carbon_Flight (https://twitter.com/Carbon_Flight) 2 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/Carbon_Flight/status/981219956372074496)

That patch artwork was created by @KSCartist (https://twitter.com/KSCartist) and Jorge Cartes, experts in numerous Shuttle and Station crew patch designs.

21 мин. назад (https://twitter.com/Carbon_Flight/status/981237689960644608)

Since folks have asked - the 4 stars are: KSC (launch/Starliner processing), Houston (Mission Ops, Boeing Engineering), White Sands area (landing sites), Denver (home of @ulalaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch))
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 06.04.2018 02:52:42
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-boeing-may-evolve-flight-test-strategy
ЦитатаApril 6, 2018

NASA, Boeing May Evolve Flight Test Strategy

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An artist image of the Boeing Starliner spacecraft docking to the International Space Station. Image credit: Boeing

NASA has updated its Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contract with Boeing, which provides flexibility in its commercial flight tests. Boeing, one of the agency's two commercial crew partners (http://www.nasa.gov/commercialcrew), approached NASA last year and proposed adding a third crew member on its Crew Flight Test (CFT) to the International Space Station (http://www.nasa.gov/station).

The change includes the ability to extend Boeing's CFT from roughly two weeks to up to six months as well as the training and mission support for a third crew member. Cargo capabilities for the uncrewed and crewed flight tests were also identified.

Exact details of how to best take advantage of the contract modification are under evaluation, but the changes could allow for additional microgravity research, maintenance, and other activities while Starliner is docked to station. Adding a third crew member on Boeing's flight test could offer NASA an additional opportunity to ensure continued U.S. access to the orbital laboratory.
"This contract modification provides NASA with additional schedule margin if needed," said William Gerstenmaier, associate administrator, Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "We appreciate Boeing's willingness to evolve its flight to ensure we have continued access to space for our astronauts. Commercial space transportation to low-Earth orbit from U.S. soil is critical for the agency and the nation."

The current commercial crew flight schedules provide about six months of margin to begin regular, post-certification crew rotation missions to the International Space Station before NASA's contracted flights on Soyuz flights end in fall 2019.

"Turning a test flight into more of an operational mission needs careful review by the technical community," said Gerstenmaier. "For example, the spacecraft capability to support the additional time still needs to be reviewed. Modifying the contract now allows NASA and Boeing an opportunity to tailor the duration to balance the mission needs with vehicle and crew capabilities."

This would not be the first time NASA has expanded the scope of test flights (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/02/08/nasas-continued-focus-on-returning-u-s-human-spaceflight-launches/). NASA had SpaceX carry cargo on its commercial cargo demonstration flight to the International Space Station under the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) initiative in 2012, which was not part of the original agreement. As part of its normal operations planning, NASA has assessed multiple scenarios to ensure continued U.S. access to the space station. The agency is working closely with its commercial partners and is preparing for potential schedule adjustments normally experienced during spacecraft development.

"Our partners have made significant progress on the development of their spacecraft, launch vehicle, and ground systems," said Kathy Lueders, NASA's Commercial Crew Program manager at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. "Their rigorous testing and analysis are verifying each system performs and reacts as planned as they prepare to safely carry our astronauts to and from the station."

Boeing and SpaceX plan to fly test missions (https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/11/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates-2/) without crew to the space station this year prior to test flights with a crew onboard. After each company's test flights, NASA will evaluate the in-flight performance in order to certify the systems and begin regular post-certification crew rotation missions.
Last Updated: April 6, 2018
Editor: Linda Herridge
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 09.04.2018 14:38:27
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1291867805/jsc2003e55802_cropped_bigger.jpg)Christopher Ferguson‏Подлинная учетная запись @Astro_Ferg (https://twitter.com/Astro_Ferg) 9 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/Astro_Ferg/status/983174846006906880)

And the two become one....Launch Pad Abort Test is next
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 10.04.2018 13:07:41
https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/04/09/boeing-proposes-extending-test-flight-of-commercial-crew-capsule/
ЦитатаBoeing proposes extending test flight of commercial crew capsule
April 9, 2018 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/04/) | Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

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Artist's illustration of a CST-100 Starliner spacecraft docked at the International Space Station. Credit: Boeing

NASA has agreed to consider a Boeing proposal to extend the first piloted test flight of its commercial CST-100 Starliner crew capsule fr om two weeks to up to six months with an extra crew member for the International Space Station, hedging against potential delays that could jeopardize U.S. crew access to the orbiting outpost, officials said last week.

The U.S. space agency said Thursday it recently updated its contract with Boeing to enable the first test flight of the company's CST-100 Starliner crew ferry ship to remain at the space station for up to six months. The original plan called for a two-week test flight to the space station and back to Earth.

In addition, the updated contract would allow NASA and Boeing to fly a third crew member on the CST-100 spacecraft's Crew Flight Test. Officials previously planned for the Crew Flight Test to carry a Boeing test pilot and a NASA astronaut.
"Exact details of how to best take advantage of the contract modification are under evaluation, but the changes could allow for additional microgravity research, maintenance, and other activities while Starliner is docked to station," NASA said in a statement. "Adding a third crew member on Boeing's flight test could offer NASA an additional opportunity to ensure continued U.S. access to the orbital laboratory."

Boeing could also carry cargo to the space station abroad the CST-100 Starliner test flights under the terms of the updated contract.

If exercised, the options for a longer-duration Crew Flight Test with an extra crew member could blunt the impact of delays in the readiness of Boeing and SpaceX capsules to begin regular crew rotation flights to and from the space station.

The U.S.-built commercial crew craft will end NASA's reliance on Russian Soyuz spaceships to deliver astronauts to the space station and return them to Earth. NASA has secured Soyuz seats for U.S. astronauts and crew members from other station partners through 2019, but officials do not plan further Soyuz seat purchases.

That puts the onus on Boeing and SpaceX to deliver.

"This contract modification provides NASA with additional schedule margin if needed," said William Gerstenmaier, associate administrator of NASA's human exploration and operations mission directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "We appreciate Boeing's willingness to evolve its flight to ensure we have continued access to space for our astronauts. Commercial space transportation to low-Earth orbit from U.S. soil is critical for the agency and the nation."

NASA said it will consider a similar contract update with SpaceX, should the company propose one.

The flight sequence currently planned by NASA, Boeing and SpaceX includes unpiloted test flights of the CST-100 Starliner and Crew Dragon spacecraft to dock with the space station, followed by demonstration flights with two-person crews. Each company plans one unpiloted test flight and one demo mission with an on-board crew.

The latest schedule released by NASA indicates Boeing and SpaceX plan to launch their initial crew capsule test flights into orbit as soon as August -- without a crew. Astronauts would strap into the CST-100 Starliner for its Crew Flight Test in November, followed by the first Crew Dragon test flight with humans on-board in December.

But those mission schedules are optimistic, and they assume Boeing and SpaceX quicken their development pace in the coming months. In addition to the test flights to the space station, Boeing is finishing up structural testing and plans a pad abort test to verify the CST-100's escape rockets can safely get a crew away from an exploding rocket on the launch pad. SpaceX's upcoming work includes a vacuum test of the Crew Dragon spacecraft, final qualification of its parachutes and an in-flight abort test, designed to check the capsule's ability to get away from a launch failure after liftoff.

"I would say the schedule the contractors have laid out is aggressive," said Steve Stich, deputy manager of NASA's commercial crew program, in a briefing with reporters April 2. "What we have seen from both Boeing and SpaceX is when we get to a point wh ere maybe the dates are no longer supportable with what testing they have to do, then those dates get adjusted. The reason those dates get adjusted is the fact that there's work to complete to ensure those spacecraft are safe."

After the successful completion of the crew demonstration flights, Boeing and SpaceX will be formally certified by NASA to begin regular crew rotation missions, carrying four astronauts at a time to and from the space station. The spacecraft will stay docked to the complex for up to seven months, serving as a lifeboat for the crew to escape in case of an emergency.

NASA has a contract with Boeing worth up to $4.2 billion to complete development of the CST-100 crew capsule, conduct the two test flights to the space station, and fly up to six subsequent crew rotations. NASA's contract with SpaceX, covering Crew Dragon development, test flights and up to six crew rotations, is valued at up to $2.6 billion.

Officials did not disclose how the updates to the Boeing contract could change the deal's monetary value.

NASA says the cost-per-seat on the CST-100 and Crew Dragon capsules will average out at about $58 million. The Russian government charged NASA as much as $81 million per round-trip Soyuz ticket.

Boeing's crew capsule will lift off on a United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket from Cape Canaveral's Complex 41 launch pad, while SpaceX will launch its piloted missions on the company's own Falcon 9 booster from pad 39A, the former Apollo and space shuttle launch site at NASA's Kennedy Space Center.

The CST-100 will return to Earth under parachutes for an airbag-cushioned landing at a site in New Mexico, Utah, California, or Arizona. The Crew Dragon will splash down in the Atlantic Ocean off of Florida's coast.

"Turning a test flight into more of an operational mission needs careful review by the technical community," Gerstenmaier said in a statement. "For example, the spacecraft capability to support the additional time still needs to be reviewed. Modifying the contract now allows NASA and Boeing an opportunity to tailor the duration to balance the mission needs with vehicle and crew capabilities."

NASA said the current schedules, which project the Boeing and SpaceX crew ferry craft will be available for operational crew rotations in the spring of 2019, have about six months of margin before NASA's contract for Soyuz seats expires in the fall of 2019.

But a review by the Government Accountability Office earlier this year said the certification schedules for both commercial crew vehicles was likely to fall well behind NASA's current timeline.

Boeing and SpaceX aimed to fly their first human-rated spacecraft to the International Space Station in late 2016 and early 2017, with a goal of having both vehicles ready for operational missions by the end of 2017. But budget shortfalls from Congress, combined with technical hurdles encountered by both companies, delayed the test flights.
"In fact, final certification dates have slipped to the first quarter of calendar year 2019 and we found that the program's own analysis indicates that certification is likely to slip into December 2019 for SpaceX and February 2020 for Boeing," said Cristina Chaplain, a senior manager at the Government Accountability Office, during a congressional hearing in January.
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 11.04.2018 15:15:00
Цитата(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1844231573/Boeing_twitter_avatar_bigger.png)Boeing Defense‏Подлинная учетная запись @BoeingDefense (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense) 15 ч. назад (https://twitter.com/BoeingDefense/status/983819515602636800)

Things are really (https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f31f.png) coming together (https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f31f.png) for the #BoeingSpace (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoeingSpace?src=hash) team! Coming up, we'll test fire (https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f525.png)(https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f525.png)(https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f525.png)(https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f525.png) this vehicle's @AerojetRdyne (https://twitter.com/AerojetRdyne) engines with partner @ULALaunch (https://twitter.com/ulalaunch) to prove #Starliner (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Starliner?src=hash) can swiftly carry astronauts to safety in the unlikely event of a launch vehicle emergency.

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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 13.04.2018 16:03:44
http://spacenews.com/nasa-may-extend-space-station-missions-to-address-potential-commercial-crew-delays/
ЦитатаNASA may extend space station missions to address potential commercial crew delays
by Jeff Foust (http://spacenews.com/author/jeff-foust/) -- April 13, 2018

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NASA Acting Administrator Robert Lightfoot said April 12 that extending durations of crews on the International Space Station could help deal with any future delays in the development of commercial crew vehicles. Credit: NASA

WASHINGTON -- NASA is in discussions with its Russian counterparts about extending some upcoming space station missions as a way to buy more time for development of commercial crew vehicles.

During an April 12 hearing by the commerce, justice and science subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee on the agency's fiscal year 2019 budget proposal, NASA Acting Administrator Robert Lightfoot said longer "increments" of crews on the ISS could be one way to provide more schedule margin in the event of additional delays by Boeing and SpaceX in the development of their crewed spacecraft.

"Right now we don't show a gap" in U.S. access to the International Space Station, Lightfoot said in response to a question posed by subcommittee chairman Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas). "But we're looking at options at what can we do to not have a gap."

"We're working with our partners, our Russian partners, on if we can have longer increments for crew members that go up," he said.
He revisited that later in the hearing. "One thing we have is a great relationship with our Russians partners, and we're looking at other alternatives about potentially extending mission duration for the current missions that are there so that we don't gap the ability to get there," he said.

NASA's current agreement with flying astronauts on Soyuz vehicles expires next year, after the agency purchased three seats on Soyuz flights launching in the spring of 2019 and returning in the fall. It's not clear what would be involved in extending ISS mission durations, such as any technical issues regarding how long a Soyuz spacecraft can remain docked to the ISS.

NASA announced April 5 it had updated its existing commercial crew contract with Boeing to study modifications to the crewed test flight for the company's CST-100 Starliner. Those modifications would include adding a third astronaut and extending the spacecraft's stay at the ISS from two weeks to as long as six months. Those changes, Lightfoot noted at the hearing, were another way to mitigate the effects of additional development delays.

At the hearing, Lightfoot said there was still schedule margin for the development of Starliner and SpaceX's Crew Dragon to be ready by the fall of 2019. Schedules last updated in January call for both companies to make uncrewed test flights of their vehicles in August. Boeing would then make a crewed test flight in November, followed by SpaceX in December.

Lightfoot, though, hinted that those schedules would be delayed again. "We still expect to see the first test flights at the end of this year," he said, later elaborating that these were the uncrewed test flights for both companies.

Culberson asked when the crewed test flights would take place, and Lightfoot said he would take that for the record. "I'm focused on the uncrewed one right now," he said.
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Название: CST-100
Отправлено: tnt22 от 16.04.2018 22:50:41
https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/04/16/nasa-could-extend-space-station-expeditions-as-hedge-against-commercial-crew-delays/
ЦитатаNASA could extend space station stays as hedge against commercial crew delays
April 16, 2018 (https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/04/) | Stephen Clark (https://spaceflightnow.com/author/stephen-clark/)

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File photo of acting NASA Administrator Robert Lightfoot. Credit: NASA/Aubrey Gemignani

NASA is working with the Russian space agency to potentially extend crew stays on the International Space Station, the agency's acting administrator said last week, as a cushion against expected delays in the development of commercial crew capsules by Boeing and SpaceX.

Robert Lightfoot, who has led the U.S. space agency on an interim basis since January 2017, told lawmakers Thursday that NASA is looking for ways to ensure U.S. astronauts can fly to the space station in case commercial spaceships designed by Boeing and SpaceX are not operational by the time a transportation contract with Russia expires in late 2019.
One option already under study is potentially extending the first piloted test flights of the commercial crew ships fr om two days up to six months. NASA recently updated its commercial crew contract with Boeing, giving officials the option to lengthen the first piloted test flight of the company's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft from two weeks to six months, along with the possible addition of a third crew member.

The space agency said it would consider a similar arrangement with SpaceX if the company proposes it.

Lightfoot, who is retiring at the end of April, told a House appropriations subcommittee Thursday that NASA does not expect a gap in crew access to the space station between the end of Soyuz missions under contract with U.S. astronauts and the start of regular space station crew rotation flights by Boeing and SpaceX.

But the Government Accountability Office in January reported that the schedules are likely to fall behind NASA's current projection, which anticipates Boeing and SpaceX's vehicles completing their uncrewed and crewed demonstration missions by the spring of 2019.

The GAO's report said certification of SpaceX's Crew Dragon capsule for operational crew rotation missions is likely to slip until December 2019, with Boeing's final certification likely to occur in February 2020.

Lightfoot said NASA is taking further steps to minimize the impact of further commercial crew delays, including the possibility of lengthening the time astronauts live and work on the space station.

"We're working with all our partners and working all the options, but right now we know we still show margin," Lightfoot said.

"One thing we have is a great relationship with our Russian partners, and we're looking at other alternatives about potentially extending the mission durations for the current missions that are there," he said.

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File photo of NASA astronaut Ricky Arnold boarding a Soyuz spacecraft during testing at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Credit: NASA/Victor Zelentsov

Space station crews typically spend around six months in orbit, but some crew members have stayed longer. NASA astronaut Scott Kelly and Russian cosmonaut Mikhail Kornienko spent 340 days on the space station in 2015 and 2016. Astronaut Peggy Whitson returned from an extended 288-day mission in September.

Scientists are eager for more astronauts to stay on the space station for longer missions. The long-duration missions give researchers important data about how extended exposure to microgravity and radiation affects the human body.

Joel Montalbano, NASA's deputy space station program manager, said April 1 that scientists have asked station officials to find 10 to 12 slots for year-long crew members. There are no firm plans to send a crew to the station for a year, but NASA continues to look for an opportunity, Montalbano said.

"We're looking at ways to ... extend stays that we have currently on the station with the seats that we do have left through the Soyuz program," Lightfoot said Thursday.

NASA is not planning to buy more Soyuz seats from Russia, but officials have previously said that once the commercial crew spacecraft are operational, the station partners plan to accommodate at least one U.S. astronaut and one Russian cosmonaut on each launch. The in-kind arrangement has been negotiated without the exchange of funds between NASA and Roscosmos, the Russian space agency.

Lightfoot said Boeing and SpaceX are "making great progress" on their commercial crew capsules. But like NASA's Space Launch System and Orion programs -- part of the agency's deep space exploration plans -- the commercial crew vehicles are running into difficulties as engineers build the first flight-ready models of each spacecraft.

The most recent public schedule released by NASA indicate the first test flights by the Crew Dragon and CST-100 Starliner could occur in August, but industry and government officials expect that schedule to slip. Plans to conduct the first Crew Dragon test flight with a two-person crew in November, and fly two test pilots on a CST-100 Starliner spaceship in December, are also widely considered "aggressive" by space program officials.

Lightfoot said Thursday that NASA still expects both companies to complete their unpiloted demonstration flights to Earth orbit by the end of the year. He declined to state a schedule for the crewed test flights.

"We still expect to see the first test flights at the end of this year, from both providers," he said. "These would be the uncrewed flights. We're working through that now."

The unpiloted and crewed test missions will dock with the International Space Station.

The Crew Dragon capsule will blast off on SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, then parachute into the Atlantic Ocean at the end of its mission. Boeing's CST-100 Starliner will lift off on the Atlas 5 rocket, built and operated by Boeing subsidiary United Launch Alliance, then return to a parachute-assisted and airbag-cushioned touchdown at one of five landing zones in the Western United States, likely in New Mexico.

The U.S.-built ships will normally carry a crew of four to the space station, wh ere the capsules will remain docked for up to 210 days before returning the astronauts to Earth. Russian Soyuz spacecraft carry three-person crews.

"Regardless of what is going on in the rest of the world, our space cooperation with the Russians has been very good," Lightfoot said. "It's a good team. We're ready to get our flights from U.S. soil though. We're ready to get back to that."
Название: CST-100
Отправлено: zandr от 19.04.2018 20:16:55
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ЦитатаИспытательный полет к МКС корабля Boeing Starliner перенесен на три месяца
Москва. 19 апреля. INTERFAX.RU - Новый американский пилотируемый корабль Boeing Starliner отправится без экипажа в испытательный полет к Международной космической станции (МКС) на три месяца позже запланированного. Об этом сообщил в четверг "Интерфаксу" источник в ракетно-космической отрасли.
"Испытательный беспилотный полет пилотируемого корабля Starliner перенесен с августа на 27 ноября", - сказал собеседник агентства.
В то же время аналогичный испытательный беспилотный полет пилотируемого корабля Dragon по-прежнему планируется в августе.
"Интерфакс" не располагает официальным подтверждением данной информации от NASA.
Ранее ряд СМИ сообщили, что NASA воспользовалось опционом на полет трех американских астронавтов в российских кораблях "Союз" к Международной космической станции в 2019 году.
Также сообщалось, что NASA приобрело у компании Boeing два места в кораблях "Союз" в 2017 и 2018 годах.
Высказывались предположения, что потребность в дополнительных местах на российских кораблях могла п