Форум Новости Космонавтики

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

April • Falcon 9 • Cassiope
Launch window: TBD
Launch site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Air Force Base, California

A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Cassiope satellite for the Canadian Space Agency. Cassiope carries a communications relay payload for a commercial digital broadcast courier service and an instrument to observe the Earth's ionosphere. The rocket will fly in the Falcon 9 v1.1 configuration with upgraded Merlin 1D engines, stretched fuel tanks, and a payload fairing.

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/cassiope-1.htm

CASSIOPE 1

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/82099.jpg)
CASSIOPE 1 [MDA]

MacDonald Dettwiler (MDA) is developing a space mission around a new generation of smaller cost-effective satellites. CASSIOPE (Cascade SmallSat and Ionospheric Polar Explorer) is a multifunctional mission designed to serve both a scientific and a commercial purpose.

Scheduled for launch in 2007, this small satellite mission will feature the first in a new generation of multi-purpose satellite platforms that will be adaptable for use in a variety of future Canadian space missions.

MDA is the prime contractor for the space and ground infrastructure for the CASSIOPE Mission including system engineering, design, assembly, integration, testing, launch and operation of the spacecraft.

The CASSIOPE Mission will carry the experimental Cascade payload to demonstrate the world's first commercial space-based digital courier service. When proven, future operational missions will provide a large-scale data transfer service to remote commercial, civil and military clients anywhere in the world. Similar to the operations of a traditional courier company, Cascade will pick-up a parcel at close of business day, and deliver it to geographically dispersed destinations before work starts the next day. The difference is that the service will utilize a small satellite and the packages will be very large digital data files. Initially, one Low Earth Orbit satellite will orbit above the Earth at an altitude of 300 to 1,500 km once every 1.5 hours, providing multiple opportunities each day for the pick-up and delivery of data anywhere on Earth. As demand increases, capacity can be expanded by adding additional satellites. Cascade is accessed through small turnkey terminals with built-in mass storage capacity and 1-2 meter antennas. The terminal communicates with the Cascade control centre to schedule pickup and confirm delivery. As the satellite comes overhead, the data is transmitted at 1.2 gigabits per second - 12 times faster than the operating speed of most office LANs. At that speed, the contents of a typical music CD would be transferred in a little over 4 seconds and a full length DVD movie in little more than a minute. This point-to-point delivery system ensures a high degree of security. CASSIOPE will operate in the higher frequency Ka-Band radio spectrum providing greater bandwidth.

Developed by a scientific team led by the University of Calgary, ePOP will be Canada's first space environment sensor suite, providing Canadian scientists with the opportunity to understand the impact the variability of the Sun has on the space environment. ePOP will carry a suite of eight scientific instruments, including plasma sensors, radio wave receivers, magnetometers, CCD cameras, and a beacon transmitter. The ePOP payload will lead to a comprehensive understanding of plasma processes in the polar ionosphere – a region in the upper atmosphere.

- IRM (Imaging rapid scanning mass spectrometer): Composition, density, velocity, temperature (1-40 amu, 1-70 eV)
- SEI (Suprathermal electron imager): Suprathermal electro and photoelectron energy and pitch angle spectra (<200 V)
- NMS (Neutral mass and velocity spectrometer): Neutral composition, density, velocity, temperature (1-40 amu, 0.1-2 km/s)
- FAI (Fast auroral imager): Fast broadband visible (10 per sec) and slower monochromatic imgages (630 nm)
- RRI (Radio receiver instrument): HF and VLF wave electic field polarization and propagation
- MGF (Magnetic field instrument): Magnetic field perturbation and field aligned currents
- GAP (Navstar attitute, position occultation experiment): Ionospheric Irregularities (differential GPS); spacecraft attitude (Navstar interferometry)
- CER (Coherent EM radiation tomography experiment): Ionospheric Irregularities (differential line of-sight plasma wave propagation delays)

Nation:    Canada
Type / Application:    Communication, store dump, Science
Operator:    CSA
Contractors:    MacDonald, Dettwiler and Associates Ltd. (MDA), Magellan Aerospace (Bus)
Equipment:    
Configuration:    MAC-200
Propulsion:    
Power:    Solar cells, batteries
Lifetime:    2 years
Mass:    ~500 kg
Orbit:    300 km × 1500 km

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/popacs.htm

POPACS

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/82100.jpg)
POPACS

POPACS (Polar Orbiting Passive Atmospheric Calibration Sphere) is a mission by a collaboration between Morehead State University, Gil Moore, the University of Arkansas, Planetary Systems Corporation, Montana State University, et. al. to assess changes in the density of the upper atmosphere in response to heightened solar activity. Launch is sponsored by the Air Force Space Test Program.

In partnership with Planetary Systems Corporation and project director, Gil Moore, the DSSL students designed a delivery system for POPACS that will protect it during it launch and deployment in to orbit.

The spacecraft in this case are six 10-centimeter spheres filled with sand to masses of 1, 1.5, and 2 kilograms; three are painted white while three will have shiny metallic surfaces. The spheres will fly within CubeSat (3U) form factor frames as secondary payloads on the first Falcon-9 v1.1 launch from Vandenberg in early 2013, and released once in polar orbit. Air Force radars as well as ground observers—including, Moore hopes, college students—will track the orbits of these objects as they decay over 10 to 15 years to measure atmospheric density.

POPACS follows the general guidelines of a 3U cube satellite form factor that is split between a typical 2U (10 cm × 10 cm × 20 cm) cube and an atypical 1U (10 cm diameter) sphere. The sub systems and technology aboard POPACS are very unusual for a small satellite. Extraordinary sub-systems and materials include: a cold gas ADACS (Axial/Divert and Attitude Control System) MEMS (Micro-Electrical-Mechanical Systems) propulsion system, MEMS memory, a thermal control system, deployable solar panels, and satellite frame printed using a 3-D rapid prototyping printing process.

Nation:    USA
Type / Application:    Research (Atmospheric density)
Operator:    
Contractors:    
Equipment:    
Configuration:    CubeSat (3U) form factor
Propulsion:    None
Power:    Solar cells, batteries
Lifetime:    
Mass:    3 kg

http://www.newspacewatch.com/articles/faa-conf-wed-afternoon-pt-2-notes.html

ЦитироватьStanding up pad at Vandenberg. Expect first launch there mid-year.

18 июня.

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6455)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6456)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6457)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6458)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6459)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6460)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6461)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6462)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6463)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6464)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6465)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6466)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6467)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6468)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6469)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6454)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6452)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/6453)

Фото со стартовой площадки Vandenberg SLC-4E 2013.02.06

Так как фотографии не отобразились, вот ссылка на них:
http://photos.dailynews.com/2013/02/photos-first-lookspacex-launch-complexvandenberg-afb/#name (http://photos.dailynews.com/2013/02/photos-first-lookspacex-launch-complexvandenberg-afb/#name)

Масса Кассиопы - 500 кг. Не маловато для такой ракеты?

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Масса Кассиопы - 500 кг. Не маловато для такой ракеты?

Испытательный пуск

Аааа...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/8591558240/in/photostream/

ЦитироватьSpaceX Falcon 9 1.1 Production Line

On the new observation platform with my partner Randy Glein, who used to work at Hughes and Martin Marietta.

Below us, booster and second stages get ready for shipment. The white structure on the left is the paint booth, directly fed from the friction-stir-welder contraption. With version 1.1, the booster switches the 3x3 motor block to an Octaweb that's flush with the body with a ring of the new Merlin 1D engines (manufacturing, testing).

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8591558240_4edb7f8ec3_b.jpg)

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

ЦитироватьJuly 9     Falcon 9  •  Cassiope
Launch window: 1600-1800 GMT (12:00-2:00 p.m. EDT; 9:00-11:00 a.m. PDT)
Launch site: SLC-4E, Vandenberg Air Force Base, California

A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Cassiope satellite for the Canadian Space Agency. Cassiope carries a communications relay payload for a commercial digital broadcast courier service and an instrument to observe the Earth's ionosphere. The rocket will fly in the Falcon 9 v1.1 configuration with upgraded Merlin 1D engines, stretched fuel tanks, and a payload fairing. Delayed from April and June 18. [April 9]

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1037034#msg1037034

Цитировать

Цитироватьsubzero788 пишет:
I've been out of the loop for a while-- what's the status of the Vandenberg pad? Is it ready to go and it's the launch vehicle acceptance testing that they're waiting on?

simonbp пишет:
That sounds right. Last I saw, the vehicle is in Texas on the test stand. Once that's done, they'll truck it back to California.

Of course, many things can crop up after arriving at the launch pad...

Я так понимаю прожига на полный ресурс не будет, если они ступень со стенда на старт повезут?

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1050433#msg1050433

ЦитироватьMcDew пишет:
FWIW I heard the launch was delayed to NET July 20.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/130516fairing/

ЦитироватьVIDEO: Falcon 9 fairing tested in Ohio

BY STEPHEN CLARK
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: May 16, 2013

 The payload fairing for SpaceX's upgraded Falcon 9 rocket, set to debut this summer on a launch from California, is being tested inside the world's largest vacuum chamber in Ohio as the burgeoning space transportation company breaks in to the commercial launch market.

http://youtu.be/LtI1V624vWM (http://youtu.be/LtI1V624vWM)

Credit: SpaceX

 The 17-foot-diameter shroud was built entirely by SpaceX for the company's next-generation Falcon 9 rocket - called the Falcon 9 v1.1 in SpaceX's parlance.

SpaceX is testing the fairing inside the world's largest vacuum chamber at NASA's Plum Brook Station in Sandusky, Ohio. The cavernous chamber, which can simulate the pressure, temperature and radiation environments of space, has been used to test U.S. and European launcher fairings, Mars landers and International Space Station hardware.

The Hawthorne, Calif.-based space transportation company released a video of the fairing test Thursday, showing the shroud's two clamshell-like halves separating in high-speed camera views.

The 43-foot-tall fairing will enclose satellites in the first few minutes of launch as the Falcon 9 rocket flies through the lower atmosphere. Once the launch vehicle reaches thinner air resistance at the edge of space, it will jettison the fairing to let go of the extra mass.

Elon Musk, SpaceX's CEO and chief technology officer, said the payload fairing is made of carbon fiber with an aluminum honeycomb core. He called it "the lightest material choice possible" in an email with Spaceflight Now.

The fairing tests continue at Plum Brook, according to Christina Ra, a SpaceX spokesperson.

The Falcon 9 v1.1's upgraded Merlin engine completed qualification for flight earlier this year. The Merlin 1D engine produces more thrust than SpaceX's previous Merlin engines, and its design is more robust for reusability, higher production rates and lower cost, according to SpaceX.

The Falcon 9 rocket's first stage is powered by nine Merlin engines. SpaceX redesigned the upgraded Falcon 9's first stage to arrange the engines in a circular pattern instead of the "tic-tac-toe" three-by-three engine matrix used on the first-generation Falcon 9 booster.

A vacuum-rated Merlin 1D engine with an expansive nozzle will propel the Falcon 9 v1.1's second stage.

SpaceX's Falcon 9 qualification testing, which is not yet complete, is also verifying the structural integrity of the new rocket's first stage tanks, which are stretched to hold more liquid oxygen and kerosene propellants than previous Falcon 9s.

The maiden flight of the Falcon 9 v1.1 is scheduled for July from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., with the Canadian Space Agency's Cassiope communications and space weather research satellite.

The upgraded Falcon 9's first launch from Cape Canaveral, Fla., will come in August with the SES 8 communications satellite. It will be SpaceX's first launch into geostationary transfer orbit, a high-altitude elliptical orbit commonly used by communications satellites transiting to operational positions over the equator.

All of SpaceX's Falcon 9 launches to date have flown to low Earth orbit on test flights or NASA-sponsored missions to resupply the International Space Station with the Dragon spacecraft.

Unlike most satellites, launches of the Dragon capsule do not use a fairing.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1054132#msg1054132

Цитировать

ЦитироватьNate_Trost пишет:
You get industry scuttlebutt in these threads. Although considering that the first stage at least, is still sitting in Texas, I'd be more a little skeptical of July 20 at this point.

Things/milestones we are still waiting to hear about in this thread:

* Stage testing completed in TX
* Stage shipped from TX, arrives at VAFB
* First time stage integration at new facility
* First ever WDR of 1.1 and of the SLC-4E pad
* First time SpaceX integrates a satellite payload on a F9
* First time SpaceX has dealt with the F9 fairing as part of integration/launch prep
* Pad static-fire?

Prober пишет:
forgot the pad being complete

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=8184.msg1058947#msg1058947

Цитировать

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:

July 9 (TBD) - Cassiope, POPACS (x6), CUSat 1&2 - Falcon 9 v1.1 - Vandenberg SLC-4E - 16:00-18:00 (or NET July 20)

Skyrocket пишет:

Another payload has joint this launch. DANDE (Drag and Atmospheric Neutral Density Explorer)
https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/d/dande

There will be only 3 POPACS satellites on this launch (personal communication with Gil Moore)

There might be also a 0.5 kg Stanford nanosatellite called SNAPS on board
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/formal_detail.php?serialnum=289

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1059192#msg1059192

ЦитироватьChris Bergin пишет:
SpaceX confirming their is currently no launch date for this mission at the moment (as they work through several issues with the v1.1):

Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes
SpaceX: No firm date for flight of new-version Falcon 9 with Canada's Cassiope science sat. Launch will prepare F9 for geo commercial market

http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/35562spacex-chief-says-reusable-first-stage-will-slash-launch-costs#.Uajt7tiBXTo

ЦитироватьMeanwhile, SpaceX's upgraded, but still expendable, Falcon 9 rocket is scheduled to make its inaugural launch sometime this summer from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif., carrying Canada's Cassiope science satellite into low Earth orbit. The launch will flight-qualify the rocket's new engine and fairing sufficiently to trigger a series of Falcon 9 commercial missions that the company has booked.

SpaceX said May 30 that the date of the inaugural flight of the new Falcon 9 remains uncertain. Following a successful Cassiope launch, the new Falcon 9 is scheduled to begin commercial operations from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

ЦитироватьSummer     Falcon 9  •  Cassiope

https://twitter.com/Leone_SN/status/342384957349568513

ЦитироватьDan Leone ‏@Leone_SN

@CSA_ASC says notional launch date for #CASSIOPE space weather satellite is Aug. 14 - little later than expected - on @SpaceX Falcon 9 1.1.

http://mertensiana.phys.ucalgary.ca/

ЦитироватьJune 17, 2013: The Cassiope launch date has been updated to September 5, 2013 aboard the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. The launch will take place from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, making it the first spacecraft to launch from this new SpaceX facility. Watch for continued updates as this milestone approaches!

http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/joe_science/spacex-test-in-works-as-nasa-milestones-reached-russians-lose/article_e89db09c-e35a-11e2-8996-001a4bcf887a.html

ЦитироватьSpaceX test in works as NASA milestones reached; Russians lose rocket

Posted: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 4:03 pm | Upd ated: 4:47 pm, Tue Jul 2, 2013.

By JOSEPH ABBOTT jabbott@wacotrib.com

SpaceX in McGregor may be celebrating the approach to Independence Day with its rocket's yellow glare. From SpaceX's Christina Ra:

 

ЦитироватьSpaceX is planning to run another test at our rocket development facility in McGregor, Texas that will be significantly louder than the typical tests we run daily. This test will be similar in scope to recent tests, running from seconds in duration up to several minutes. The earliest possible date for the upcoming test is Wed., July 3rd.

This would probably be one of the stage acceptance tests in preparation for the Falcon 9 launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California of the Canadian CASSIOPE satellite. The launch date is se t but being kept under wraps since the client is a private company, Ra has previously said.

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Илон сообщает, сегодня завершились полномасштабные испытания первой ступени нового F9
 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356771814271234050
ПОЗДРАВЛЯЮ!

До пуска осталось 52 дня.

http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/36286spacex-test-fires-upgraded-falcon-9-core-for-three-minutes#.UeYrtqzzPTo

ЦитироватьSpaceX Test-fires Upgraded Falcon 9 Core for three minutes
By Dan Leone | Jul. 16, 2013
The current version of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket features nine Merlin 1-C engines in a three-by-three configuration. Credit: SpaceX photo

WASHINGTON — Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) on July 14 test fired the core stage of the Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket that will be used to launch Canada's Cassiope space weather satellite this September, a company spokeswoman confirmed.

"The recently tested booster is the first stage for SpaceX's upcoming next-generation Falcon 9 demonstration flight for MDA and their Cassiope mission," SpaceX spokeswoman Christina Ra said in a July 15 email. "The same updated design will apply to all Falcon 9 flights moving forward."

The test lasted "for approximately three minutes, simulating what the booster may experience in flight before stage separation," Ra said.

Cassiope is a small satellite built by Richmond, British Columbia-based MDA Corp. for the Canadian Space Agency.

SpaceX founder and chief executive officer Elon Musk first announced the test on Twitter.

ЦитироватьElon Musk ✔ @elonmusk

Just completed full mission duration firing of next gen Falcon 9 booster. V proud of the boost stage team for overcoming many tough issues.
4:46 PM - 15 Jul 2013

"Just completed full mission duration firing of next gen Falcon 9 booster," Musk wrote in a July 15 Twitter post. "[Very] proud of the boost stage team for overcoming many tough issues."
SpaceX test fired Falcon 9 v1.1 core stage for 112 seconds June 12 at its McGregor, Texas, test site.

Ra declined to explain what the "tough issues" were that Musk referred to in his tweet.

"The details of SpaceX's testing program are considered proprietary," Ra wrote in her email.

SpaceX has been testing this integrated core stage — which uses 9 kerosene-fueled Merlin 1-D engines in an octagonal layout as an upgrade to the three-by-three, tic-tac-toe grid of Merlin 1-C engines used on the current Falcon 9 — for more than a month.

A June 1 test lasted only 10 seconds. A subsequent test, video of which the company uploaded to YouTube June 10, lasted 112 seconds. No video of the latest test has appeared on SpaceX's YouTube channel.

Falcon 9 v1.1, besides being the first SpaceX vehicle scheduled to launch a commercial communications satellite to geostationary orbit, is also a big part of the company's plans to develop a reusable space rocket.

On a March 28 conference call with the media, after the company's Dragon space capsule returned fr om its second space station cargo delivery, Musk said SpaceX would expand its reusable rocket tests this year by attempting to steer a Falcon 9 v1.1 first stage to a soft water-landing after a launch. He did not say when this test would take place.

Meanwhile, if SpaceX successfully launches Cassiope, it will clear a contractual hurdle required by its first commercial geostationary customer, SES of Luxembourg, to launch that company's SES-8 spacecraft from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

Commercial Launches for Orbcomm of Fort Lee, N.J., and Thailand's Thai Comm would follow, as would a third cargo run to the international space station for NASA. In all, SpaceX has four more launches left on its manifest for 2013, two of which are to geostationary transfer orbit, wh ere most commercial communications satellites are dropped off before using onboard propulsion to maneuver into their orbital slots.

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
На конференции в Сан-Хосе, Том Мюллер сказал, что первая ступень поедет в Ванду на следующей неделе, а вторая через неделю

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
SpaceX завершает испытания обтекателя в Glenn Research Center
 http://spacefellowship.com/news/art34581/spacex-testing-complete-at-nasa-glenn-s-renovated-facility.html

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1075847#msg1075847

Цитироватьedkyle99 пишет:

There was a development test of the second stage attempted on May 21, 2013, that ended in an abort.  I haven't heard anything since about second stage testing.

 - Ed Kyle

Chris Bergin: SpaceX's new Falcon 9 v1.1 begins to arrive in California
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/07/spacexs-falcon-9-v1-1-begins-arrive-california/

На NSF поговаривают о том, что пуск состоится не ранее ноября.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1083295#msg1083295

ЦитироватьAntares пишет:
SpaceX publishes borderline unrealistic dates to keep everyone pushing internally.  The better question, as AJW posed, is what are the key milestones.

Rocket on stand (validates VAFB erector).**  
Rocket on stand with cryos in it (validates VAFB loading system, vehicle side should be validated by McGregor)**
Spacecraft and rocket in same building
Spacecraft encapsulated
Spacecraft mated
** N.B. - doing it once doesn't mean there weren't functions on the edge of invalidation.  Beware of repeats.

It's been a really long time since SpaceX handled someone else's spacecraft and mated something that wasn't a Dragon to the second stage.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/08/spacex-bothering-bovines-revolutionizing-rockets/

ЦитироватьSpaceX are continuing to make progress on several key projects as they head into a busy period of launches. With the debut launch of their Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket still on for September, an eye to the future for both their launch vehicles and spacecraft was highlighted over recent days, with the most spectacular event conducted by the Grasshopper test vehicle – as much as it was less-appreciated by some of the locals.

Next Up:
Preparations for an upcoming launch are continuing at SpaceX's SLC-4E pad at Vandenberg Air Force Base (VAFB) in California (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/07/spacexs-falcon-9-v1-1-begins-arrive-california/).
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88192.jpg)
The launch will debut the upgraded Falcon 9 rocket, known as the v1.1, which was the subject of extensive testing at the company's Rocket Development and Test Facility in McGregor, Texas (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/testing-times-spacexs-new-falcon-9-v-1-1/).
With the successful conclusion to development and acceptance testing on the core's nine Merlin 1D engines, the vehicle is currently being prepared at Vandenberg for its Wet Dress Rehearsal (WDR) – scheduled for the last week in August (L2) (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31605.msg1084128#msg1084128) – and Hot Fire test.
The mission is tasked with launching the CAScade, Smallsat and IOnospheric Polar Explorer (CASSIOPE) (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=CASSIOPE) – a made-in-Canada small satellite from the Canadian Space Agency – into orbit, early in September. The launch date will be firmed up once the on-pad testing and vehicle integration tasks have been completed.
  A successful mission for the upgraded launch vehicle will allow SpaceX to proceed toward the launch of what will be the debut launch of a geostationary satellite, with the lofting of the SES-8 spacecraft from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/?s=SES-8).
In a sign of SpaceX's ability to hit the ground running with a busy launch schedule, an image was recently published showing several stages lined up on the factory floor at the company's facility in Hawthorne, California.
The photo shows the first stages for flights 7, 8, 9 – along with second stages for flights 8 and 9 – on the factory floor (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/08/spacex-awarded-european-government-contract-sarah-missions/), with one unidentified stage and octoweb inside "SpaceX Falcon 9 spray booth".
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88193.jpg)
Since the photo was taken, the core for Flight 7 (F9 S1-007) was shipped to the McGregor Test Facility for its acceptance test firing, as was the second stage (F9S2-007).
Following the development test firings on the F9 S1-006 core that will launch with CASSIOPE (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/reducing-risk-ground-testing-recipe-spacex-success/), stages are now expected to head in and out of Texas at a more rapid pace, with the objective of "simply" completing acceptance testing.
SpaceX officials usually inform the local media of firings, to provide nearby residents with a heads up of the loud noise and localized shaking that accompanies the ignition of their stages.

Стартовое окно, если верить Spaceflightnow, по Москве с 20:00 - 22:00 5 сентября.

T-10 дней

Не знаю как правильно называется документ от FAA о рисках SpaceX
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2013-20726.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2013-20726.pdf)

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
T-10 дней

 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2013-20726.pdf)

Успел ли конь там поваляться?  ;)

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
T-10 дней

Не знаю как правильно называется документ от FAA о рисках SpaceX
 https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2013-20726.pdf

ЦитироватьThis petition for waiver addresses an upcoming flight that SpaceX plans to undertake transporting the Cassiope satellite and several small secondary payloads to earth orbit.  This will be the first launch by SpaceX from VAFB.  It will also be the first flight of the Falcon 9 v1.1 vehicle, which is larger and has greater thrust and payload capacity than SpaceX's Falcon 9 vehicle.  SpaceX's Falcon 9 v1.1 launch vehicle will launch from VAFB and place the Cassiope satellite into a near-polar orbit.  The launch vehicle will also carry five secondary payloads to the same orbit.  The first stage will coast after stage separation, and then perform an experimental burn with three engines to reduce the entry velocity just prior to entry.  Prior to landing in the water, it will perform a second experimental burn with one engine to impact the water with minimal velocity.  The second stage will coast and then perform an experimental burn to depletion.

Похоже запуск поедет вправо

Ну кто бы сомневался! Вопрос только в том на один месяц, или на два.  ;)

Пока вроде еще остается в сентябре

Источники говорят о переносе запуска на 10 сентября

https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/372505876713590784

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88367.jpg) Stephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1  (https://twitter.com/StephenClark1)   Sources say the first launch of SpaceX's Falcon 9 v1.1 from Vandenberg is NET Sept. 10. That's a five-day slip from the previous target.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1089376#msg1089376

Цитировать

ЦитироватьPattiM пишет:
Any words yet on actual launch date?   :)

Chris Bergin пишет:

Not yet. Probably after the WDR (which is tomorrow per L2). As with all launches, it's always a NET (No Earlier Than). NET September 9 or 10 right now.

Новая ракета, новый СК, интеграция и тестирование спутника первый раз за много лет, всякая экспериментальная воздушно-космическая акробатика в полёте...

И всё это за полтора месяца на подготовку. Они какие-то удивительные молодцы, если получится.

Врут поди, как всегда.

Padrat сообщает: F9 находится на столе в вертикальном положении

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1090049#msg1090049

Цитироватьugordan пишет:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomcatphotography1/9625736164/

"As the Delta IV rises into clear blue skies, also visible just down the hill and to the right is SpaceX's Falcon 9 launch vehicle on the pad at SLC-4E."

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28299.jpg)

Per Ugordan's post on the Cassiope discussion thread, this is probably the first photo of the new Falcon 9 on the pad, via the photographer's link (provided below) showing the Delta IV-H's lift off.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1090049#msg1090049 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1090049#msg1090049)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomcatphotography1/9625736164/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomcatphotography1/9625736164/)

By the way, we (L2) understand the launch has slipped again and won't be able to target around September 9-10. Small slips at the moment, but no official date, just NETs, as expected until they complete testing.

Сухой вывоз можно считать состоявшимся. Однако настораживает отсутствие победных реляций в обычном для Маска стиле.

Коммерческий запуск Малазийского спутника тоже прошел без реляций и трансляций.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1090642#msg1090642

Цитироватьugordan пишет:
Good morning, SLC-4E

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28306.jpg) (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3692/9633915921_4f5001c51e_o.png)

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31429.msg1090854#msg1090854

Цитироватьugordan пишет:
WDR is done without the payload.

Крис Бергин сообщает:
Впереди огневой тест
Старт 14 сентября выглядит сильным.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1091842#msg1091842

ЦитироватьChris Bergin пишет:
Per L2 - NET September 14. Date looks strong.

Hot fire next.

Еще фото F9
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/375156462542000128/photo/1/large (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/375156462542000128/photo/1/large)

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28315.jpg)

Маск делает ракеты как сосиски :)

Никак не думал, что они в сентябре полетят.

Цитироватьykpoi пишет:
Никак не думал, что они в сентябре полетят.

А что уже?

Цитироватьinstml пишет:
Маск делает ракеты как сосиски  :)

Я бы уточнил: как охотничьи сосиски.

http://mertensiana.phys.ucalgary.ca/

ЦитироватьSept 4, 2013: The Cassiope launch date has been moved to September 14, 2013 aboard the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. The launch will take place from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, making it the first spacecraft to launch from this new SpaceX facility. Watch for continued updates as this milestone approaches!

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2013/09/cusat-set-launch-sept-14-making-gps-precise

ЦитироватьSept. 4, 2013
CUSat set to launch Sept. 14 from California

By Blaine Friedlander

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88573.jpg)
Provided
For the pending CUSat launch on Sept. 14, team members, from left, Dan LaChapelle '16, Steven Dourmashkin '15, and Aastha Acharya '14 work on various mission aspects in Ithaca.

After eight years of planning, submitting, winning, building and waiting, Cornell University's CUSat – a nanosatellite designed and built by engineering students to help calibrate global positioning systems (GPS) with pinpoint accuracy – will be launched Sept. 14 from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Lompoc, Calif.
The satellite – which weighs about 90 pounds – will be launched on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. Once in space, the satellite will move into low orbit to help calibrate GPS accuracy to within 3 millimeters. With that precision, future space missions can perform improved close-proximity spacecraft-to-spacecraft maneuvers.
The satellite uses algorithms developed by Mark Psiaki, professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering, and Shan Mohiuddin, Ph.D. '10.
"It's a very exciting and busy time for the team. We've been performing weekly mission rehearsals for the past year and a half," said Paul Jackson '15, the Cornell team's student project manager.
In 2007 the U.S. Air Force and the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics chose CUSat – from among 11 entries – as the winner of its Nanosatellite Program's Nanosat-4 competition. Since 2005, more than 200 engineering students have worked on the project.
The Cornell satellite is loaded and ready for launch on the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, whose primary payload is the Canadian Space Agency's Cassiope digital broadcast satellite.
To communicate with the satellite in orbit, the team configured ground stations in Ithaca, the Marshall Islands, Colorado Springs, Colo., and Redondo Beach, Calif.
When the CUSat team won the Nanosat-4 competition in 2007, the project was slated for launch in June 2008 from the SpaceX launch complex in the Marshall Islands. But then the launch was postponed to late 2011/early 2012. Now, it will launch next week.
Alumni from the team's early years tell Jackson they'll watch the launch live from Vandenberg or with team members in Ithaca. "It's a very exciting time for our alumni. Many of them worked on CUSat for their senior design or master's degree projects. They tell me it's really great to see their work finally go into space and serve the intended purpose," said Jackson.
When the team won the 2007 competition, its faculty adviser and principal investigator was Mason Peck, professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering. Peck is on leave from Cornell and serves as NASA's chief technologist. James Lloyd, professor of astronomy, now serves as the team's faculty adviser.
The Sept. 14 launch window is from noon to 2 p.m. EDT, but that could change due to weather.
Editor's note: This story has been upd ated to reflect the new launch date. It was originally se t to launch Sept. 10.

DANDE отгружен ещё 5 августа:
http://spacegrant.colorado.edu/dande-news

ЦитироватьT-30 Days to Launch!
August 5, 2013
Miranda Link
 
This morning, DANDE and CUSat (a Cornell University satellite) left the Air Force Research Laboratories in Albuquerque New Mexico headed for the launch site! Once the satellites arrive tomorrow to Vandenberg AFB in California, (specifically launch pad SLC-4E) DANDE and CUSat will be going through a final system checkout and prepare for flight. After Cassiope is integrated onto the launch vehicle, DANDE and CUSat will follow. Then we wait for launch on September 5th!
The DANDE team in Boulder is going through final preparations and action item closeouts in order to be a well oiled machine that is prepared for launch.
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88574.jpg)
More updates to come!

-The DANDE Team

http://www.usu.edu/ust/index.cfm?article=52602

ЦитироватьUSU Get Away Special Team Set to Monitor Solar Effects on Satellites
          
  Thursday, Aug. 29, 2013

(http://www.usu.edu/ust/img/large/GetAway_POPACS_ust.jpg)                                      
Graphic of the POPACS system shows three spheres (rightmost partially obscured) in a spring-loaded canister designed to eject the satellites into orbit. USU students will monitor the satellites and report findings to a national database.                
                             
(http://www.usu.edu/ust/img/large/GetAway_GAS_Logo_ust.jpg)                                      
The Get Away Special 'GAS' Team is USU's student space research group. The team is largely responsible for one of Utah State's best known achievements: USU has sent more student-built experiments into space than any university in the world.                
                       
 In a unique public-private partnership, Utah State University students will track three small satellites in low Earth orbit by telescope and report their findings to a national database.
    "This is an opportunity to involve students in a real-world — or should we say 'out-of-this-world' — project aimed at protecting satellites from the orbit-straying effects of space weather," says Jan Sojka, head of USU's Department of Physics and a lead investigator on the project.
    SpaceX, a private space transport company, is set to launch its Falcon 9 rocket into space Sept. 10 from California's Vandenberg Air Force Base. On board is POPACS, a project led and funded by Gil Moore, former USU faculty member and longtime supporter of USU's Get Away Special student space research team.
    POPACS, short for "Polar Orbiting Passive Atmospheric Calibration Spheres," is a project designed to measure changes in the density of the upper atmosphere in response to solar flares. The project consists of three spherical satellites, each measuring about 4 inches in diameter but each with a different mass.
    "A big concern for satellites is drag — that is, forces due to atmospheric density that cause the satellite to stray from its orbit," Sojka says. "If a satellite doesn't stay on its prescribed path, it risks collisions with other space objects or falling toward Earth hastening its demise as it burns up in the atmosphere."
    Using telescopes and GPS, USU students will track the shiny balls — one made of aluminum, the other two of stainless steel — as they as make their way across the sky.
    "Each of the spheres will reflect the same amount of light but, because of their varied densities, will experience the upper atmosphere differently," Sojka says.
    Designed and built by Planetary Systems Corporation of Maryland, the satellites will travel into space in a spring-loaded canister that will eject the spheres into orbit.
    "This is a fantastic opportunity for our students to explore emerging technology in orbital analysis," Sojka says. "The military, private companies and space agencies such as NASA and the European Space Agency are keenly interested in keeping satellite fleets going and avoiding problems with space weather."
    Solar flares, varying in intensity and frequency as the Sun moves through cycles, disrupt satellites upon which citizens of the Earth increasingly depend for communications and other commercial and military uses.
    "So many of our daily activities — especially cell phone and pager use, Internet and TV viewing — depend on satellites," Sojka says. "This project provides our students an opportunity to contribute to solutions for a global challenge, while learning about a lot of really interesting science."
    USU's GAS Team hosts its opening social Wednesday, Sept. 4, at 5:30 p.m. in the Science Engineering Research Building, Room 244. All students interested in space research are welcome to attend. The team is currently involved in a number of endeavors, including the POPACS project.

Статья о предстоящем полете указывает на проведение огневого теста 7-8 сентября
http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37094musk-says-spacex-being-%E2%80%9Cextremely-paranoid%E2%80%9D-as-it-readies-for-falcon-9%E2%80%99s (http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37094musk-says-spacex-being-%E2%80%9Cextremely-paranoid%E2%80%9D-as-it-readies-for-falcon-9%E2%80%99s)

Похоже тест смещается на сл. неделю,  наверное и старт поедет
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.0 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.0)

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Статья о предстоящем полете указывает на проведение огневого теста 7-8 сентября
 http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37094musk-says-spacex-being-%E2%80%9Cextremely-paranoid%E2%80%9D-as-it-readies-for-falcon-9%E2%80%99s

ЦитироватьMusk Says SpaceX Being "Extremely Paranoid" as It Readies for Falcon 9's California Debut
By Irene Klotz | Sep. 6, 2013

 (http://www.spacenews.com/sites/spacenews.com/files/styles/large/public/images/articles/Falcon911_Musk4X3.jpg) (http://www.spacenews.com/sites/spacenews.com/files/images/articles/Falcon911_Musk4X3.jpg)
SpaceX's latest Falcon 9 version is 60 percent longer than the company's five previous Falcon 9 boosters. Credit: Photo courtesy of Elon Musk

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Building on its experience setting up a space launch complex in Florida, California-based Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) is looking to begin operations in its home state this month, with a debut demonstration flight of an upgraded Falcon 9 rocket.

Privately owned SpaceX planned to conduct a static-test firing of the rocket's new Merlin 1D engines the weekend of Sept. 7-8, the last major hurdle before a launch attempt could be made as early as a week or two later, founder and chief executive Elon Musk told SpaceNews. At press time, a NASA manifest had the launch slated for Sept. 14.

The flight would be Falcon 9's first fr om a newly refurbished launch pad at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.

Спойлер

"We're being, as usual, extremely paranoid about the launch and trying to do everything we possibly can to improve the probability of success, but this is a new version of Falcon 9," Musk said.

The rocket is 60 percent longer than the company's five previous Falcon 9 boosters, all launched from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. Three of those rockets carried Dragon cargo capsules to the international space station for NASA. Two others were test flights.

The rocket's extension, which makes it more susceptible to bending during flight, is the most visible of several upgrades intended to increase the booster's lift capacity and simplify operations.

In addition to a new five-meter payload fairing, the rocket has upgraded avionics and software, as well as a new stage-separation system that cuts the number of attachment points from 12 to three.

"It's ultimately an improvement in reliability, but it is a new system," Musk said.

Because it is a demonstration mission, SpaceX offered launch services at a cut-rate price. MDA Corp. of Canada bought the ride for its 500-kilogram Cassiope spacecraft, built in collaboration with the Canadian Space Agency and Technology Partnerships Canada.

"Cassiope paid a tiny fraction of the price for the right to be on the demonstration flight. This is essentially a development flight for the rocket. It's not an operational flight," Musk said.

"Cassiope is a very small satellite. It takes up just a tiny fraction of the volume of the fairing. They paid, I think, maybe 20 percent of the normal price of the mission," he added.

A trio of secondary payloads — including a privately funded cubesat Earth science mission and two university payloads — also will be aboard.

Once the payloads are put into orbit, SpaceX may try to restart the rocket's upper-stage motor, depending on how much fuel is left. Also on tap is a highly experimental restart of the Falcon's boost stage to slow its crash-landing into the sea.

"Just before we hit the ocean, we're going to relight the engine and see if we can mitigate the landing velocity to the point wh ere the stage could potentially be recovered, but I give this maybe a 10 percent chance of success," Musk said.

In a related program called Grasshopper, SpaceX has been developing a booster stage that can fly itself back to a launch pad.

"We've never attempted to land Grasshopper on water. We don't know if the radar system will detect the water surface level accurately. We don't know all sorts of things, so I really give it a very tiny chance of success. But we're going to see what data we can learn," Musk said.

Eventually, Musk hopes to outfit the Falcon rockets with landing legs and offer a discount launch service on used rockets.

"Ultimately, I think we could see a drop in cost per launch of 25 percent or more, just from re-use of the boost stage," he said.

Following the Falcon 9 v1.1 flight from California, SpaceX plans to return to Florida for its first commercial mission, an SES World Skies communications satellite.

NASA, which has a contract with SpaceX for 10 more cargo runs to the station, wants the upgraded Falcon 9 rocket to fly two or three times before it is used to launch an enhanced Dragon capsule slated to fly on the next resupply mission, space station program manager Mike Suffredini said. A NASA manifest shows Dragon's next cargo run occurring between Jan. 17 and Feb. 16.

[свернуть]

https://www.facebook.com/spacegrantdande?ref=stream&hc_location=timeline

ЦитироватьCOSGC DANDE (https://www.facebook.com/spacegrantdande?ref=stream&hc_location=timeline)
21 ч. назад (https://www.facebook.com/spacegrantdande/posts/382600308536439) возле Боулдер (Колорадо) (https://www.facebook.com/pages/%D0%91%D0%BE%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80-%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE/106083096088679?ref=stream)

Still looking like launch will be this upcoming Saturday!
 
 "SpaceX conducted their Flight Readiness Review today! The more exciting news is that the conclusion was a GO for launch! The fairing has been integrated to the launch vehicle and no unplanned open work is planned. The last gate on the way to launch is the Static Fire planed for Tuesday and the Launch Readiness Review verifying its success." (from public sources)
 
 GOOOO DANDE!!!

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

Пуск - 15 сентября в 20:00-22:00 ЛМВ.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/377325202121580544/photo/1

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg) Elon MuskVerified account ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)   First of next gen Falcon 9 rockets rolls out to the launch pad at Vandenberg Air Force Base pic.twitter.com/hNl6zKodvr (http://t.co/hNl6zKodvr)

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28346.jpg)

Ночью вывозят.
Секретничают. 8)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/377349811604709376

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg) Elon MuskVerified account ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)   Upcoming Falcon 9 demo has a lot of new technology, so the probability of failure is significant http://ow.ly/oJ0W1 (http://t.co/PfnGeEaaWq)

Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk
Upcoming Falcon 9 demo has a lot of new technology, so the probability of failure is significant

P.S.: Salo опередил  :)

А ведь гдето месяц назад я предполагал что Маск избегает трансляции потому что ожидает аварии...

https://twitter.com/4adamharris/status/377577692763144192

Цитировать

ЦитироватьJeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust 21h

    Adam Harris, SpaceX: planning a static fire of Falcon 9 at Vandenberg tomorrow; launch now planned for a week from today. #aiaaspace
 8:25 PM - 10 Sep 13

Adam Harris ‏@4adamharris

@jeff_foust To clarify, I said we will attempt to launch within a week.
2:41 AM - 11 Sep 13

http://spaceref.ca/missions-and-programs/canadian-space-agency/after-years-in-storage-cassiope-satellite-set-for-launch.html

ЦитироватьAfter Years in Storage CASSIOPE Satellite Set for Launch

[/li]
•     Posted by Marc Boucher Source: SpaceRef
  
• Posted September 11, 2013 9:57 AM
  

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88672.jpg)
©U.S. Air Force
Space Falcon 9 v1.1 on the pad.
 
               I bet you didn't know that if you drove onto the West Island of Montreal via the Trans-Canada Highway, that in a nondescript building at MDA's Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue office, on the north side of the highway, was a $140 million satellite securely stored and awaiting its mission the last few years.
Almost a decade after the it was announced, the Canadian Space Agency CASSIOPE (http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/satellites/cassiope.asp) satellite appears set to launch on September 15th on a SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket, barring any delays. SpaceX (http://www.spacex.com/) will conduct a "hot fire" test of the rockets engines today and if all goes well the launch will proceed.
The multi-purpose satellite was announced on February 7th, 2004 (http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=13602) by the Canadian Space Agency (http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/) with MadDonald, Dettwiler and Associates Ltd. (MDA) (http://www.mdacorporation.com/corporate/index.cfm) as the prime contractor.
The CASSIOPE or CAscade (http://is.mdacorporation.com/mdais_canada/Programs/Programs_Cascade.aspx), SmallSat and IOnospheric Polar Explorer satellite has two payloads, an experimental commercial space-based digital courier service called Cascade and the scientific Enhanced Polar Outflow Probe (ePOP)  (http://mertensiana.phys.ucalgary.ca/)mission with eight instruments.
At the time it was announced little did then President Marc Garneau know how many delays the mission would encounter. "Our investment in the design of these new space satellites will increase Canadian knowledge and expertise, diversify our space industry and enhance the timely delivery of Canadian payloads on a more frequent basis."

http://youtu.be/FkzJFlVOsz0 (http://youtu.be/FkzJFlVOsz0)

When announced it was hoped that CASSIOPE would launch in 2007. And in 2005 MDA signed a sweetheart of a deal with SpaceX for a third quarter launch in 2008.
The deal MDA signed was for SpaceX, still a very new company in 2005 without a single launch to its name, to launch CASSIOPE on a Falcon 1 rocket fr om Vandenberg Air Force Base for a reported price of less than $10 million. That was too good a price to pass up. At the time SpaceX was advertising the Falcon 1 launch at $5.9 million before raising the price to $9 million in 2009. The price is less than 20% of what it would cost today on the rocket it will now launch on.
For the Canadian government, which wanted to keep the cost of any mission low, who wh ere they to argue with such a sweet deal.
Unfortunately as is the case with any new rocket there are delays and failures. SpaceX would launch three Falcon 1 rockets between March 2006 and August 2008, all which failed, though the third was considered a partial-success by SpaceX. However in September 2008 the first successful Falcon 1 launch was completed and SpaceX has not had a failure since then.

(http://spaceref.ca/news/cassiope_final_625x260.jpg)
 CASSIOPE Satellite Rendering. Credit: Siemens.

SpaceX only flew one more Falcon 1 though after that first successful launch and shifted its focus to the bigger Falcon 9 rocket. Development of this rocket caused further delays in the SpaceX launch schedule.
Then SpaceX competed and won a contract to supply NASA with a cargo resupply service to the International Space Station. This meant more delays for CASSIOPE.
SpaceX in 2012 officially retired the Falcon 1 and CASSIOPE was moved to the much bigger and successful Falcon 9 rocket.
However the move came with an asterisk. SpaceX decided that CASSIOPE would fly on the first launch of the upgraded Falcon 9, labelled version 1.1 or just Falcon 9 v1.1. While similar to the original Falcon 9 the new upgraded version sports the more powerful Merlin 1D engines which have yet to fly, a much longer fuselage, a new larger fairing and a number of other upgrades to the rocket including its software.
Which brings us today, just days away from the CASSIOPE launch and five years later than when it was scheduled to launch.
SpaceRef contacted MDA and Dr. Andrew Yau, the principal investigator of ePOP, to discuss the launch and if after 10 years were the variety of experiments still relevant and what if any upgrading the satellite needed since its been sitting idly in storage for several years.
For MDA, Corporate Communications Manager Wendy Keyzer said "The experiment is still relevant, Cascade is an experimental capability looking at providing a cost-effective, secure, and very high fidelity high-bandwidth communications offering using a 'store and forward' operational concept."
Dr. Yau said "yes, I would say so - the more we learn from other sources of data, the more relevant the underlying scientific questions remain. There is now a much broader appreciation of the impact of space weather on our daily life than 10 years ago. As we know more about plasma outflows, there is also increased scientific interest in understanding their important effects on the Earth's upper atmosphere and ionosphere and its space weather."
Dr. Yau also said that while some of the experiments software parameters might need changes, there was probably no need for instrumentation software upgrades, though one instruments GPS receiver firmware and software did need upgrading which has been performed.
For the researchers "the delay has been frustrating and problematic, but it has been very inspiring to see everyone on both the science and the technical teams maintaining their focus on the eventual success of the mission despite the increasing budgetary and programmatic challenges" Dr. Yau said.
The launch will also be the first out of SpaceX's new Vandenberg launch complex. And SpaceX has classified this launch as a "demonstration launch". And it was only a few of weeks ago that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) gave SpaceX a waiver (http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=44570) to launch the new rocket though in the waiver it did cite the Air Force as stating it "has determined that its overall failure probability is nearly fifty percent for each of the first two launches."
So while that less than $10 million launch contract looked really good in 2005 when it was signed, it seems that aside from the ongoing launch delays, CASSIOPE must now launch on an upgraded rocket with a greater risk of failure.
This is the nature of the launch industry though. And while SpaceX is calling this a demonstration launch, it is in their best interest to launch only if they feel the rocket and technology is ready. However no matter how much you try to cover every contingency, there is always that chance the launch will fail.
For Canada and the Canadian government which accepted this risk due to the nations meagre space budget, let's hope that SpaceX delivers a flawless launch.

http://youtu.be/T73qP_lMkPY (http://youtu.be/T73qP_lMkPY)

Что-то ничего не слышно. Я тут подумал, если прожиг пройдет хорошо, Маск сразу напишет. А если нет, мы узнаем о результатах только завтра.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1095597#msg1095597

ЦитироватьChris Bergin пишет:
Per L2, no hot fire today.

Рубят хвост по частям, в назидание.

SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 1st launch: Static firing test update - Wed
September 12 2013 02:32:35 AM | by Clark Lindsey, Managing Editor
 
The latest I hear from Charles about the SpaceX Falcon v1.1 hot fire test is that the scrub today was due to a ground pad LOX leak and nothing to do with the rocket.

Ням-ням :)  :D   .

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg1095903#msg1095903

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/22255)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/22256)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/22257)

Красивая!
 Долетит ли до небесного свода?  :|  :D

Сейчас ожидается прожиг: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1095947#msg1095947

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Долетит ли до небесного свода?  :|   :D

Нет, переломится по дороге.

Похоже этот пуск станет самым интересным пуском года.
Кстати, чтобы ракета не разбилась о небесную твердь, надо её освятить перед стартом! :D

Ракета получилась очень технологичная и красивая!
А с ней появился еще один игрок в космическом бизнесе

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg1096054#msg1096054
(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/22269)

Прошло уже более 2 часов, как появилось фото, а результата все нет

Today's countdown has been halted two times in the final minutes before the Falcon 9 rocket's nine Merlin 1D engines were supposed to ignite. There is no word yet whether another attempt will be made today.

Есть результат! Прожог на полную длительность! Интересно, а сколько это секунд?
"Confirmed in L2..... HOT FIRE!!!! Full power, full duration!
Yes, there were two aborts. The first abort was after I posted "standby!" I had to hold our coverage of the attempts to L2 coverage. But now we have a hot fire, we can run with an article."

Похоже 2-ю ступень не заправляли: нет пояса изморози как на баке О 1-й ступени.

ЕСТЬ, ПРОЖГЛИ! А вот и статья
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/09/falcon-9-v1-1-hot-fire-ahead-cassiope-mission/ (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/09/falcon-9-v1-1-hot-fire-ahead-cassiope-mission/)

Подредактировали и получили FH
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/575558/FH-mockup.png (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/575558/FH-mockup.png)

Вы ЭТО называете красивой ракетой? Серьезно? Непропорционально длинная и тонкая, да еще этот ГО-набалдашник...

Ведь полетит, нормально полетит.

Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk (mailto:@elonmusk)  8 мин 
Full thrust achieved on 2 sec static fire. Some anomalies to be investigated, so launch date tbd.

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Подредактировали и получили FH
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/575558/FH-mockup.png

Надо еще добавить,получится...
(http://tainy.info/images/2012/08/2-%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D0%A5%D0%A5-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0.-%D0%9E%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0-80-%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%8B-%D0%B8-%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%8B.jpg)

ЦитироватьПалкин пишет:
Вы ЭТО называете красивой ракетой? Серьезно? Непропорционально длинная и тонкая, да еще этот ГО-набалдашник...

Ведь полетит, нормально полетит.

А по-моему лучше спичка, чем бочка.

"Бочки" тоже неплохи, особенно если это супербочки  :)

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/22300)

(вроде из закромов Петровича)

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk (mailto:@elonmusk) 8 мин
Full thrust achieved on 2 sec static fire. Some anomalies to be investigated, so launch date tbd.

Повторять будут, или и так сойдёт?

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
Повторять будут, или и так сойдёт?

Пока причину не поймут, вряд ли что будет известно

А что за аномалии, Маск не говорит? Температура на двигателях первой ступени опять?

Пока тишина. Ждем

Дата висит прежняя
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

Дата-то висит, но Маск сказал TBD.

Не ракета, а фаллический символ какой-то.

ЦитироватьДенис Лобко пишет:
Не ракета, а фаллический символ какой-то.

Длинновато и тонковато для фаллического символа. 
 Настоящим фаллическим символом был Тор-ЭйблСтар. 

Повторный прожиг - в субботу вечером.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1096404#msg1096404

"Per L2, there will be a second hot fire test early on Saturday"

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
 Настоящим фаллическим символом был Тор-ЭйблСтар.

Картинкой не поделишься? ;)

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
 Настоящим фаллическим символом был Тор-ЭйблСтар.

Картинкой не поделишься?  ;)

 http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/thor_ablestar.htm (http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/thor_ablestar.htm)

Это чей фаллос?

:D

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
Это чей фаллос?

Конский. :)

О предстоящем запуске
http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37216falcon-9-launch-up-in-the-air-following-static-fire-test (http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37216falcon-9-launch-up-in-the-air-following-static-fire-test)

Поговаривают о переносе запуска
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/status.html (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/status.html)

Согласно НСФ, после аборта теста возник план Б - повторный тест в субботу и пуск в воскресенье. Теперь вырабатывается более вменяемый план В, пуск в течение недели-двух.

PS: Вообще, ИМХО, гонка неадекватная, работа впопыхах в три смены без выходных. После пуска народ будет неделю отсыпаться и потом ещё неделю ползать как расслабленная сомнамбула. Короче, успеть "за два месяца" это мега круто, но по-идее им надо выходить на планомерные пять-шесть пусков в год. Опыт мегааврала тут не в помощь.

Да, как говорят - работают на износ, но не впопыхах конечно
Пять-шесть не получится, на 2014 у них запланировано 12 пусков, а дальше больше

Маленькой компании не хватает сил и средств...

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Маленькой компании не хватает сил и средств...

Точно

Все, официально на более поздний срок
http://asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/satellites/cassiope.asp

Интересно, прожиг будет завтра?

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
на 2014 у них запланировано 12 пусков, а дальше больше

Я планов ихних люблю громадьё.

С 2007 они планировали на следующий год 5 пусков. И так каждый год.

;)

ЦитироватьНу-и-ну пишет:
Согласно НСФ, после аборта теста возник план Б - повторный тест в субботу и пуск в воскресенье. Теперь вырабатывается более вменяемый план В, пуск в течение недели-двух.

PS: Вообще, ИМХО, гонка неадекватная, работа впопыхах в три смены без выходных. После пуска народ будет неделю отсыпаться и потом ещё неделю ползать как расслабленная сомнамбула. Короче, успеть "за два месяца" это мега круто, но по-идее им надо выходить на планомерные пять-шесть пусков в год. Опыт мегааврала тут не в помощь.

В этом году уже обещают только четыре:
https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/377730442629111809

Цитировать (https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3184454798/f991ebe5fe0b02ba57a4a88ebf13ed3a_normal.jpeg) Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes  (https://twitter.com/pbdes) SpaceX's Shotwell: After 3 F9 flights Sept-Dec, moving to "nearly 1 per month cadence in 2014."
 
 12:48 PM - 11 Sep 13

Цитироватьykpoi пишет:
А что за аномалии, Маск не говорит? Температура на двигателях первой ступени опять?

За две секунды прожига?

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
В этом году уже обещают только четыре

Ага. Шотвел - это что-то феерическое. Я помню её выступления в подкомитете Конгресса (вроде в 2010), там такое обещалово шло - жуть. И возить они будут прямо сейчас, и больше в тоннах, чем Прогресс, и людей через три года...
Вообще, Маску пора повышать градус вменяемости менеджмента. Фирме 11.5 лет, под 4000 работников, серьёзные клиенты. Несолидно п.доболить, "как маленький".

А гонка "из последних сил" - она к ошибкам. Ошибки - к авариям. Банально всё.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Долетит ли до небесного свода?

Долетит, чиркнет об него головкой, и загорится.

О проведении второго статического испытания
http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/joe_science/report-spacex-to-conduct-nd-california-static-fire-test-today/article_05630cae-1d12-11e3-bacb-001a4bcf887a.html (http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/joe_science/report-spacex-to-conduct-nd-california-static-fire-test-today/article_05630cae-1d12-11e3-bacb-001a4bcf887a.html)

Прожиг передвинули
Stephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1 (mailto:@StephenClark1)  59 мин 
The Falcon 9 static fire at VAFB is now off until Wednesday. Likely puts launch no sooner than next weekend, but still TBD.

Elon Musk @elonmusk
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/379171375732105218
Will do another static fire of rocket to make sure all is good & AF needs to test ICBMs, so probable launch Sept 29/30.

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2949/mgg9.th.jpg) (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2949/mgg9.jpg)

А какой у него диаметр обтекателя?

Небольшой альбом фотографий с Ванды с разных ракурсов.
http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/library/?sort=3&page=1 (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/library/?sort=3&page=1)

ЦитироватьV.B. пишет:
А какой у него диаметр обтекателя?

http://www.spacex.com/falcon9

ЦитироватьComposite Fairing 13.1m (43 ft) height, 5.2m (17.1 ft) diameter

http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37251pad-interface-anomalies-range-conflicts-push-falcon-9-11-launch-to-late

ЦитироватьPad-Interface Anomalies, Range Conflicts Push Falcon 9 1.1 Launch to Late September
Sep. 16, 2013

WASHINGTON --Anomalies discovered during a Sept. 12 hot-fire test, coupled with upcoming missile tests at the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, have delayed the inaugural launch of Space Exploration Technologies Corp.'s (SpaceX) Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket to the end of September, the company's chief executive said Sept. 15.

"Probable launch Sept. 29/30," Elon Musk, SpaceX's founder and chief executive, wrote in a message on the social networking website Twitter.

ЦитироватьElon Musk (@elonmusk)

Will do another static fire of rocket to make sure all is good & AF needs to test ICBMs, so probable launch Sept 29/30.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/statuses/379171375732105218
September 15, 2013

Following the hot-fire test, "we saw some anomalies stemming from how the pad interfaces with the vehicle," SpaceX spokeswoman Emily Shanklin wrote in a Sept. 16 email. "These are the kinds of things you can only find out when you static fire. We're making the necessary adjustments and will static fire again for good measure before launch."

Launch had been scheduled for Sept. 15, until SpaceX discovered problems during a two-second hot-fire test at Vandenberg's Space Launch Complex 4. Musk broke that news on Twitter, too.

ЦитироватьElon Musk (@elonmusk)

Full thrust achieved on 2 sec static fire. Some anomalies to be investigated, so launch date tbd.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/statuses/378398857358352384
September 13, 2013

The launch now scheduled for the end of September, in which Falcon 9 1.1 will carry the Canadian Space Agency's Cassiope space wetaher satellite and several secondary payloads, is critically important for SpaceX's business plan.

If the rocket and its new 5.2 meter-diameter fairing work as intended, Hawthorne, Calif.-based SpaceX will be clear to begin launching commercial communications satellites to geostationary orbit. The first such launch would be from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla., for fleet operator SES of Luxembourg.

Повезли в HIF:
http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/media/LVL_zps45ef0230.jpg.html
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28369.jpg)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28370.jpg)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28371.jpg)
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28372.jpg)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/380549727537745920/photo/1

Цитировать(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg)Elon MuskПодлинная учётная запись ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)
 
 Falcon 9 at sunset pic.twitter.com/CeXSwqjVHP (http://t.co/CeXSwqjVHP)

 (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88910.jpg) (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/380549727537745920/photo/1/large)
 
 18 сентября 13 в 9:31 после полудня

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
Повезли в HIF:
 http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/media/LVL_zps45ef0230.jpg.html

На фоне Луны красиво получилось  8) . А известно, почему обратно повезли? 

Прошел второй прожиг - удачно, стартовое окно откроется в течении 10 дней
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4LH0wn9Rs&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4LH0wn9Rs&feature=player_embedded)

Цитироватьbavv пишет:

ЦитироватьElon Musk ‏@elonmusk 25 мин
Completed rocket static fire with all systems green this time. Launch window opens in 10 days
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4LH0wn9Rs&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4LH0wn9Rs&feature=youtu.be) ...

http://youtu.be/VX4LH0wn9Rs (http://youtu.be/VX4LH0wn9Rs)

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
Повезли в HIF:
 http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/media/LVL_zps45ef0230.jpg.html 

На фотографиях присутствует строительный оранжевый кран, это обязательная часть оборудования при "погрузки" Фалкана? или это временное решение на новом старте?

Похоже, чтобы макаронина не переломилась. Может быть эту функцию потом на мачту перенесут .

Запуск будет транслироваться на Livestreamed, там уже пошел отсчет
http://new.livestream.com/spacex/F9-6

@elonmusk  
Falcon 9 launch window is Sunday and Monday, assuming good weather at Vandenberg Air Force Base

Две МБР успешно улетели из VAFB, теперь дорога для старта 29-30 открыта

http://new.livestream.com/spacex/F9-6

ЦитироватьUpgraded Falcon 9 Demonstration Flight

Date
  Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:00pm EDT — Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:00pm EDT
 
About
 CASSIOPE Mission for MDA Upgraded Falcon 9 Demonstration Flight

На 29 и аналогичные на 30 сентября:

Цитировать!CARF 09/183 (KZLA A2319/13) ZLA AIRSPACE DCC 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307 STAGE 1 AND DEBRIS AREA STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3133N/11934W 2848N/11910W 2809N/12000W 2300N/12000W 2300N/12005W 2622N/12104W 3007N/12119W 3133N/12113W SFC-UNL WEF 1309291600-1309291953

!CARF 09/181 (KZLA A2318/13) ZLA AIRSPACE DCC 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307 DEBRIS DISPERTION AREA STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3445N/12100W 3445N/12034W 3236N/11947W 3133N/11934W 3133N/12113W SFC-UNL WEF 1309291600-1309291930

ЗЕЛЕНЫЙ СВЕТ на запуск в воскресение!
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/383696854703013888

ЦитироватьSpaceX has cleared its Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket for launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base on Sunday. Mission Managers convened on Friday to perform the Launch Readiness Review that concluded with the decision to press into launch operations this weekend. SpaceX has launch opportunities on Sunday and Monday with a daily launch window of two hours opening at 16:00 UTC

http://www.spaceflight101.com/falcon-9-v11-cassiope-launch-updates.html

отменят

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
отменят

Почему? :) Погоду, вроде, обещают хорошую.

То есть старт назначен на завтра в 19:00 по Москве (16:00 UTC), я правильно понял?

C 20:00 до 23:00 ЛМВ.

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23231)
Здесь зоны падения первой ступени.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32683.msg1102069#msg1102069

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23232) (https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23234)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23236)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23233)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23235)

Еще закрытые зоны:

ЦитироватьA4278/13 - SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC TO THE SOUTH PACIFIC FROM KZLA AIRSPACE ON ATS ROUTE B581/B577/B200/B454/G575 ESTIMATING FICKY BETWEEN 1535Z AND 2020Z SHOULD FILE MQO C1155 AUDIA DIRECT WEDES/LENNA/TONYS/HILCO THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE. THE TEMPORARY ROUTES DESCRIBED ABOVE ARE FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH RNP-10 NAVIGATION SYSTEMS OR BETTER. ALL OTHERS SHOULD FILE A FLIGHT PLAN TO AVOID THE AIRSPACE NOTAMED FOR ALTRV 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307 BY AT LEAST 50NM. TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF TURBOJET AIRCRAFT ONLY AND SLOWER AIRCRAFT SHOULD PLAN ACCORDINGLY. QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SUPERVISOR AT 510-745-3332 OR THE OAKLAND ARTCC OCEANIC SUPERVISOR AT 510-745-3342. SFC - UNL, 29 SEP 12:50 2013 UNTIL 29 SEP 20:20 2013. CREATED: 27 SEP 15:38 2013

A4279/13 - NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC TO KZLA AIRSPACE FROM THE SOUTH PACIFIC ON ATS ROUTE B581/B577/B200/B454/G575 ESTIMATING FICKY BETWEEN 1640Z AND 2005Z SHOULD FILE WEDES/LENNA/TONYS/HILCO DIRECT AUDIA C1155 MQO THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE. SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC TO THE SOUTH PACIFIC FROM KZLA AIRSPACE ON ATS ROUTE B581/B577/B200/B454/G575 ESTIMATING FICKY BETWEEN 1635Z AND 2020Z SHOULD FILE MQO C1155 AUDIA DIRECT WEDES/LENNA/TONYS/HILCO THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE. THE TEMPORARY ROUTES DESCRIBED ABOVE ARE FOR AIRCRAFT EQUIPPED WITH RNP-10 NAVIGATION SYSTEMS OR BETTER. ALL OTHERS SHOULD FILE A FLIGHT PLAN TO AVOID THE AIRSPACE NOTAMED FOR ALTRV 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307 BY AT LEAST 50NM. TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF TURBOJET AIRCRAFT ONLY AND SLOWER AIRCRAFT SHOULD PLAN ACCORDINGLY. QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SUPERVISOR AT 510-745-3332 OR THE OAKLAND ARTCC OCEANIC SUPERVISOR AT 510-745-3342. SFC - UNL THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES ARE REQUIRED DUE TO: ALTRV 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307. THIS NOTAM ONLY AFFECTS TRAFFIC ON R576, R577, R578, R585, B581, B577, B200, B454 AND G575. WESTBOUND TRAFFIC TO HAWAII FROM KZLA AIRSPACE ON ATS ROUTE R576 ESTIMATING DINTY BETWEEN 1540Z AND 2020Z SHOULD FILE MQO C1155 AUDIA DUETS R576 THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE. EASTBOUND TRAFFIC TO KZLA AIRSPACE FROM HAWAII ON ATS ROUTE R577 ESTIMATING EBBER BETWEEN 1250Z AND 1745Z SHOULD FILE R577 EDSEL AUDIA C1155 MQO THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE. WESTBOUND TRAFFIC TO HAWAII FROM KZLA AIRSPACE ON ATS ROUTE R578 ESTIMATING FICKY BETWEEN 1535Z AND 2020Z SHOULD FILE MQO C1155 AUDIA DUETS R576 THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE. EASTBOUND TRAFFIC TO KZLA AIRSPACE FROM HAWAII ON ATS ROUTE R578 ESTIMATING FITES BETWEEN 1255Z AND 1755Z SHOULD FILE R578 FOOTS AUDIA C1155 MQO THEN FLIGHT PLAN ROUTE.

Будут ли снимать с моря управляемое падение?

Я всё мечтаю, что SpaceX догадается снять старт ракеты с гексакоптера, как снимали испытания Grasshopper'а. Кадры получились бы изумительные.

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23246)
Ссылка до Livestream, ещо 8 час. 29 минут до пуска.
 
http://new.livestream.com/spacex/F9-6 (http://new.livestream.com/spacex/F9-6)

Зря женщины не интересуются космонавтикой

Еще полно фоток  8) :

Цитироватьhttp://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVM_zpsa1968ac8.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVN_zpse98306d0.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVO_zps1f7c60c5.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVP_zpsbe990da0.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVQ_zps364737a6.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVR_zps8c87ab05.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVS_zps3a778c52.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVT_zpsd979c913.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVU_zps96277cbe.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVV_zps768f519e.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVW_zpsd65964cb.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVX_zps6657cdab.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVY_zps67e7d05d.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/LVZ_zps4dcaff40.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVA_zpsbb8e0fb0.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVB_zpsf0524d8c.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVC_zps3b873a48.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVD_zps719b454d.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVE_zps36a0fce8.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVF_zpsa308ff31.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVG_zps4f7a0525.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVH_zps565362c7.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVI_zpse49bbd74.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVJ_zps464b81fb.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVM_zps5d264392.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVN_zpsa3eb770e.jpg
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/spacecoaster1/MVO_zps2b302107.jpg

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1102249#msg1102249

Слушайте, эти хвостовые держалки ракеты никому ничего не напоминают?

На http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/status.html (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/status.html) говорится, что трансляция начнется за 40 мин. до старта и закончится на отсечке 2 ступени, итого 50 мин.

Статья о предстоящем запуске http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/09/spacex-debut-falcon-9-v1-1-cassiope-launch/ (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/09/spacex-debut-falcon-9-v1-1-cassiope-launch/)

Еще http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/130928preview/#.Ukgy8N2GjRY (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/130928preview/#.Ukgy8N2GjRY)

Пошла трансляция - http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ !

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23281)

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23284)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23285)

Из твиттера Маска:

(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89228.jpg)

Во сколько летим то?

30 минут

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23286)

Е. Маск частный самолет (наверно без Маска) будет смотреть на торможения первой ступени.

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N887XF (http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N887XF)

19 минут

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23287)

15 минут

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23288)

Думается мне, все же эта уродина полетит как надо. Не может не полететь.

Хвостовые держалки похожи на зенитовские. Или кажется?

- 10 мин

GO  :) !

10 минут

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23289)

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Во сколько летим то?

Пишут - через 8 минут, по плану

GO for launch!

6 минут

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23290)

5 мин

Пять минут.

4:30

Отвели эректор-кзм

3 минуты

1:30

1 минута

Минута  :) !

Готовность одна минута.

- 1 мин

Улетела! :)

Пошла!

ЕСТЬ ПУСК!!! Полетела  :) !

Полетели!

Красиво

Капельки на стекле...

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23291)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23292)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23293)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23294)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23296)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23295)(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23297)

Камера обрубилась?

Какой выхлоп, а? Красота!

Связь пропадает.

Есть отделение первой ступени!

Отделение, все ок

Есть запуск МД второй ступени!

Давно так не переживал. Все-таки отработала новая ступень.

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/23298)

8 минут полёта...

First stage reignition!!

Выключение МД.

Сказали, есть включение первой ступени? Или мне показалось?

Видно как дуют Драко.

Цитироватьykpoi пишет:
Сказали, есть включение первой ступени? Или мне показалось?

Всё так, она ж многоразовая  ;)

Не показалось ))
Будет контролируемый бултых в Тихий О.

Успех!

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/006/status.html

Цитировать1609 GMT (12:09 p.m. EDT; 9:09 a.m. PDT)
Second stage shutdown confirmed!

1608 GMT (12:08 p.m. EDT; 9:08 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 8 minutes. SpaceX says the first stage engines are reigniting right now to guide the spent rocket to a controlled splashdown in the Pacific Ocean.

About one minute until the second stage Merlin engine is supposed to shut down as the vehicle reaches orbit. The rocket is aiming for an orbit with a low point of about 186 miles, a high point of 932 miles, and an inclination of 80 degrees.

1607 GMT (12:07 p.m. EDT; 9:07 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 7 minutes, 20 seconds. The vehicle remains in a nominal trajectory. Altitude now is 310 kilometers.

1605 GMT (12:05 p.m. EDT; 9:05 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 5 minutes, 20 seconds. Everything reported to be going well with this second stage engine firing. The Merlin vacuum engine uses an ultra-thin niobium nozzle extension for greater efficiency in the upper atmosphere.

Downrange distance is 383 kilometers south of Vandenberg.

1604 GMT (12:04 p.m. EDT; 9:04 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 4 minutes. Flying for the first time, the SpaceX-built payload fairing has separated as planned.

1603 GMT (12:03 p.m. EDT; 9:03 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 3 minutes, 20 seconds. The Falcon 9 first stage engines have cut off, the stages have separated, and the rocket's second stage Merlin vacuum engine has ignited for its approximately six-minute firing to reach orbital velocity.

1602 GMT (12:02 p.m. EDT; 9:02 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 2 minutes. Now soaring at an altitude of more than 20 miles, the Falcon 9 rocket's first stage will shut down and jettison in about one minute. Two engines will be turned off first, followed a few moments later by the remaining seven engines.

1601 GMT (12:01 p.m. EDT; 9:01 a.m. PDT)
T+plus 1 minute. The Falcon 9 rocket is approaching the speed of sound and the phase of maximum aerodynamic pressure.

1600 GMT (12:00 p.m. EDT; 9:00 a.m. PDT)
LIFTOFF of SpaceX's next-generation Falcon 9 rocket, proving new designs for higher performance and improved efficiency while delivering Canada's Cassiope space weather research satellite to orbit

Отделение?

Есть выход на орбиту, судя по радостной реакции.

Они уже радостные, про отделение никто не говорил  :)

Цитировать1614 GMT (12:14 p.m. EDT; 9:14 a.m. PDT)
John Insprucker, the Falcon 9 product manager at SpaceX, says the flight looked great. The rocket flew down the middle of the ground track and appeared to reach the planned orbit, he said.

We're standing by for word on separation of the mission's six passengers and the outcome of the first stage re-entry and splashdown experiment.

1611 GMT (12:11 p.m. EDT; 9:11 a.m. PDT)
 The Falcon 9 second stage has flown over the horizon from Vandenberg Air Force Base, putting the rocket in a planned loss of signal period while the upper stage begins maneuvers to release its six satellites passengers, beginning with the Cassiope satellite at T+plus 14 minutes, 15 seconds.

Молодцы! Теперь дело за нами.

LAUNCH

Hour/Min/Sec Events
00:01:18 Max Q (moment of peak mechanical stress o
n the rocket)
00:02:43 1st stage engine shutdown/main engine cut
off (MECO)
00:02:50 1st and 2nd stages separate
00:02:57 2nd stage engine starts
00:03:37 Fairing separation
00:08:54 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO)
00:14:15 CASSIOPE deploys
00:17:45 POPACS deploys
00:20:25 CUSat deploys
00:21:25 DANDE deploys

Цитироватьvovila пишет:
Теперь дело за нами.

Как-то загадочно...

Как там управляемый спуск?

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Как там управляемый спуск?

Да, хотел тоже спросить. Как там 1-я ступень?

ЦитироватьАртём Жаров пишет:
Как там 1-я ступень?

Она утонула.

The first communications pass of the MDA Corp. Cassiope satellite is expected about 30 minutes after liftoff over Germany's O'Higgins ground station in Antarctica.

Вроде связь с CASSIOPE ожидают через 5 мин?

Цитироватьazeast пишет:
Как-то загадочно...

Протон скоро летит.

https://twitter.com/csa_asc (https://twitter.com/csa_asc)
Thank you @SpaceX for the successful launch of CASSIOPE! Now let the science begin! #MDA @UCalgary

Цитироватьazeast пишет:

Цитироватьvovila пишет:
Теперь дело за нами.

Как-то загадочно...

Не, я к тому, что Протон стартовать должен ночью, тоже успеха хочется

Цитироватьinstml пишет:

ЦитироватьАртём Жаров пишет:
Как там 1-я ступень?

Она утонула.

Как, опять???  :o

Дык, куда она денется  :D

Цитироватьinstml пишет:
Дык, куда она денется  :D

Ну ктото ж их обещал сажать, спасать. Спасательные байдарки на снимках показывал...

Цитировать1622 GMT (12:22 p.m. EDT; 9:22 a.m. PDT)
 The first communications pass of the MDA Corp. Cassiope satellite is expected about 30 minutes after liftoff over Germany's O'Higgins ground station in Antarctica.

SUCCESS!! Via L2 we have confirmation from the Cassiope folk S/C Sep and a healthy sat!!
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32946.msg1103004#msg1103004 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32946.msg1103004#msg1103004)

Ну, теперь все. Молодцы они все-таки. Скажу честно, я ждал аварии первой ступени :)

А я ждал невыхода на орбиту.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFefasS6bhc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFefasS6bhc)

Цитироватьvovila пишет:
Не, я к тому, что Протон стартовать должен ночью, тоже успеха хочется

Да я спустя несколько мгновений уже понял смысл фразы.

В этом году будет 3 пуска?

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

Цитироватьinstml пишет:
Дык, куда она денется  :D  

Ну ктото ж их обещал сажать, спасать. Спасательные байдарки на снимках показывал...

Ну может быть, может быть, еще спасут ступеньку  :)   :)

SpaceX successfully launches debut Falcon 9 v1.1
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/09/spacex-debut-falcon-9-v1-1-cassiope-launch/

ЦитироватьSpaceX have enjoyed a huge success via the launch the first flight of its new Falcon 9 v1.1 rocket on Sunday, carrying an array of payloads including Canada's CASSIOPE technology demonstration satellite. Liftoff took place from Vandenberg Air Force Base at the start of a three-hour window that opened at 09:00 local time (16:00 UTC).
/.. ./
Following first stage separation, SpaceX intends to conduct a recovery demonstration as part of its plans to develop a reusable Falcon 9 in the future. As it falls towards the Pacific, three first stage engines will restart to slow the vehicle, with a second test involving a single engine planned for shortly before impact.

The MV American Islander (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ru/default.aspx?mmsi=367035570¢erx=-120.3313¢ery=29.25173&zoom=10&type_color=9), of the American Marine Corporation, is present in the Pacific Ocean to attempt recovery of the stage should it land intact, and to tow it back to port, however the stage is not expected to be recoverable.
/.. ./

А вот и American Islander   направился  скорее всего  к месту падения  1 ступени 
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=367035570¢erx=-120.3313¢ery=29.25173&zoom=10&type_color=9

Цитировать1652 GMT (12:52 p.m. EDT; 9:52 a.m. PDT)
 The team in charge of DANDE, one of the Falcon 9's secondary payloads, reports a good separation of all the satellites carried aboard the rocket.
        
 1647 GMT (12:47 p.m. EDT; 9:47 a.m. PDT)
 Cornell University confirms its CUSat technical demo satellite separated from the Falcon 9 rocket. We're still waiting on official word on the mission's other payloads.

МОСКВА, 29 сен — РИА Новости. Ракета-носитель Falcon 9 с пятью спутниками на борту стартовала с космодрома калифорнийской базы ВВС США "Ванденберг", передает специализированный портал Spaceflightnow (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/).
По плану, сначала на орбиту должен быть выведен 500-килограмовый канадский метеоспутник Cassiope, на котором размещен датчик отслеживания погодных условий в ионосфере. Затем от Falcon 9, с интервалами в несколько минут, отделяются меньшие по габаритам спутники: экспериментальный коммуникационный Cascade CX, который может обрабатывать передачу больших объемов информации, и POPACS (Polar Orbiting Passive Atmospheric Calibration Spheres), который измеряет эффект солнечных вспышек и корональные выбросы массы.
Далее по плану — мини-спутник DANDE (Drag & Atmospheric Neutral Density Explorer), 50 килограммовый сферический модуль, изобретенный студентами университета в Колорадо. Цель его полета — исследовать воздействие верхних слоев земной атмосферы и колебаний ее плотности на траектории космических аппаратов. Неофициальное название DANDE — "Звезда Смерти", — так как его внешний вид напоминает одноименную космическую базу из фильма "Звездные войны". На борту сферического аппарата находятся два научных прибора — акселерометр и спектрометр нейтральных частиц, а также датчики температуры и параметров солнечного ветра и система передачи данных.
Пятый спутник — CUSat, разработанный Корнелльским университетом, будет осваивать на практике новый алгоритм GPS, который предполагает точность в расчетах на уровне миллиметров.
Falcon 9 ("Сокол") — двухступенчатая ракета-носитель семейства Falcon. Разработана частной калифорнийской компанией SpaceX (Space Exploration Technologies Corporation), основанной миллиардером Элоном Маском. Обе ступени ракеты используют один и тот же двигатель Merlin 1C (собственная разработка SpaceX). Всего в ракете-носителе установлено 10 двигателей (9 на первой ступени и 1 на второй).

Что-то тов. Маск в твиттере молчит.

Видео запуска в HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFefasS6bhc

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32946.msg1103060#msg1103060

Цитировать1703 GMT (1:03 p.m. EDT; 10:03 a.m. PDT)
 The Cassiope team reports the six-sided satellite had a nominal separation and is healthy in orbit following its first ground station pass over Antarctica.

А был ли SNAPS?

Текущее местоположение буксира, отправленного за 1 ступенью http://www.vesselfinder.com/?mmsi=367035570 (http://www.vesselfinder.com/?mmsi=367035570)#

Цитироватьinstml пишет:
Видео запуска в HD
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFefasS6bhc 

Несколько кадров из видео:

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i430/1309/23/327e2b709c8b.jpg)

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i402/1309/9a/1b2908fce122.jpg)

Цитироватьche wi пишет:
А был ли SNAPS?

В пресс-ките его нет:
http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/spacex_upgradedf9demomission_presskit.pdf

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Текущее местоположение буксира, отправленного за 1 ступенью http://www.vesselfinder.com/?mmsi=367035570 #

А что он не на ножки на землю спустился?

ЦитироватьVictor123 пишет:

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Текущее местоположение буксира, отправленного за 1 ступенью http://www.vesselfinder.com/?mmsi=367035570 #

А что он не на ножки на землю спустился?

Ножки пока  не приделали, до нуля должен остановиться прямо над водой

Кто о чем, а космос вообще и Марс в частности станут на один шажок ближе с введением многоразового фалькона в строй, интересно увидеть возвращение первой ступени на стартовую площадку.

Цитироватьvovila пишет:
Молодцы! Теперь дело за нами.

Ага ждем старт многоразовой МРКС  :)  , даешь ассиметричный ответ Маску  :D  .

Чтож не в этот раз
Musk: attempted relight of upper stage, encountered anomaly. Understand what it is and will fix before next flight.

Musk: Lower stage 3-engine relight went well, reentered. Single-engine relight went well, but exceeded roll control of ACS.

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Чтож не в этот раз
Musk: attempted relight of upper stage, encountered anomaly. Understand what it is and will fix before next flight.

А вот это плохо.

Посмотрим, сильно ли 1ю подамажило....

ЦитироватьLanista пишет:
Посмотрим, сильно ли 1ю подамажило....

пожамкало сильно:

ЦитироватьDid recover "portions" of 1st stage after splashdown.

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
 А вот это плохо.

Почему же?
Получается все включения возвращаемой ступени прошли успешно, был превышен крен
Но есть еще достаточно пусков для доработки ступени

Musk: despite that, we have all the pieces in place to accomplish recovery of stages in the future, "full and rapid reusability" of stage.
Musk: rolling "centrifuged" propellant, shut down engine early. Did recover "portions" of 1st stage after splashdown.

Маск говорит, на запусках SES и Thaicom попыток спасения первой ступени не будет. Зато с Драконом, если успеют, уже попробуют посадить на ноги. Пока что это февраль 2014-го.

Цитировать

Цитировать

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Чтож не в этот раз
Musk: attempted relight of upper stage, encountered anomaly. Understand what it is and will fix before next flight.

Salo пишет:
А вот это плохо.

igorvs пишет:
Почему же?
Получается все включения возвращаемой ступени прошли успешно, был превышен крен
Но есть еще достаточно пусков для доработки ступени

Незапуск верхней ступени к многоразовости никакого отношения не имеет и приведёт к переносу пуска SES-8 на более поздний срок. Могут даже вежливо Orbcomm вперёд пропустить.

Я про верхнюю ступень не говорил. (я не тот твит скопировал, извиняюсь). Справятся

Вот про 1 ступень

Musk: Rocket booster relit twice (supersonic retro & landing), but spun up due to aero torque, so fuel centrifuged & we flamed out

Between this flight & Grasshopper tests, I think we now have all the pieces of the puzzle to bring the rocket back home.
На сл. неделе обещают видео показать

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32946.msg1103218#msg1103218

Цитировать

Цитировать

Цитироватьinput~2 пишет:
A first object has been catalogued:
39265/2013-055A in
262 x 1340 km x 80.96°

Avron пишет:
What is that object.. (2nd stage)??

input~2 пишет:
Pre launch declared orbit for Cassiope was 300 x 1500 km x 80°  T:103 min (T for Object A is 100.88 min.)

Низковато.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384399610535755776

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)  1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384399610535755776)  
 Musk: on track for next launch, of SES satellite, next month; may wait a few weeks to finalize second stage relight issue. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
10:29 PM - 29 Sep 13

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust

Цитировать[LIST=1][LIST=1]
[/li][li](https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) 40m (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/384410742675341312)
 Between this flight & Grasshopper tests, I think we now have all the pieces of the puzzle to bring the rocket back home.
 
 Retweeted by Jeff Foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) 52m (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/384407846349062144)
 Rocket booster relit twice (supersonic retro & landing), but spun up due to aero torque, so fuel centrifuged & we flamed out
 
 Retweeted by Jeff Foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 58m (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384406344461471744)
 @agelston (https://twitter.com/agelston) Not completely successful (see tweets about stage spinning, shutting down engine), but in general they seem happy about it. View conversation (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384406344461471744)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 59m (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384406158746075136)
 @BrewCityChaser (https://twitter.com/BrewCityChaser) @Fingersoup (https://twitter.com/Fingersoup) This was an audio-only telecon, so no video. Not sure if they're planning to post the audio of it.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384406158746075136)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384405419177046016)
 Musk wraps up the press conference: "many exciting days ahead." #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384405419177046016)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384404890816348160)
 Musk: if things go "super well", could refly a Falcon 9 1st stage by the end of next year.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384404890816348160)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384404700394971136)
 Musk: goal is to attempt 1st stage recovery on all future CRS launches and many others; next two (w/out recovery) more of an anomaly.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384404700394971136)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384404384010211328)
 Musk: huge relief to have successfully delivered CASSIOPE to orbit. It had been weighing on me quite heavily. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384404384010211328)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384403932774420480)
 Musk: hoping to do a test firing of Falcon Heavy at Texas test site by 2nd quarter of 2014.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384403932774420480)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384403384306253824)
 Musk: Also pursuing LC-39A at KSC for NASA (cargo and crew). Current Cape launch site would be used for other customers. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384403384306253824)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384403281948471296)
 Musk: still working on 3rd launch site, "quite likely" to be Texas but not resolved yet. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384403281948471296)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384402628962451456)
 Musk: did recover video of the first stage reentry, hope to post it online later this week. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384402628962451456)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384402164409716736)
 Musk: working with Air Force and FAA on identifying landing sites for F9 1st stage, looking at eastern tip of Cape Canaveral. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384402164409716736)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384401857365692416)
 Musk: won't hold up CRS-3 launch to install legs on F9. Schedule driven by upgrades to Dragon. Probably Feb '14 launch. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384401857365692416)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384401088205836288)
 Musk: will next attempt recovery on 4th F9 v1.1 launch, of CRS-3. That vehicle may also have landing legs. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384401088205836288)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384400701709099008)
 Musk: won't attempt recovery on next 2 launches to give customers for those missions maximum performance. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384400701709099008)
[/li][li]Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384400701709099008)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384399610535755776)
 Musk: on track for next launch, of SES satellite, next month; may wait a few weeks to finalize second stage relight issue. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384399610535755776)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384398693170167808)
 Musk: new pad at Vandenberg AFB also performed well. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384398693170167808)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384398296871358465)
 Musk: all 1st and 2nd stage engines performed "slightly better than expected". #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384398296871358465)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384397409507631105)
 Musk: despite that, we have all the pieces in place to accomplish recovery of stages in the future, "full and rapid reusability" of stage.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384397409507631105)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384397274316824576)
 Musk: rolling "centrifuged" propellant, shut down engine early. Did recover "portions" of 1st stage after splashdown. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384397274316824576)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396898385526784)
 Musk: Lower stage 3-engine relight went well, reentered. Single-engine relight went well, but exceeded roll control of ACS. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396898385526784)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396669712105472)
 Musk: attempted relight of upper stage, encountered anomaly. Understand what it is and will fix before next flight. #falcon9 (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falcon9&src=hash)
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396669712105472)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396332498419712)
 Elon Musk: it was a great day. All satellites placed in their orbits. Demoed all tech.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396332498419712)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396138289594368)
 And we're about to begin the presser.
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384396138289594368)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384394337465143296)
 @wikkit (https://twitter.com/wikkit) The operator on the call said they would be starting momentarily. (Define "momentarily" however you'd like.)
  View conversation (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384394337465143296)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89234.jpg) Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust) 1h (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384393898355085314)
 Got email from SpaceX at 2:59 pm EDT that they're having a media telecon at 3 pm EDT. Fortunately they're running a few minutes late...
  Expand (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/384393898355085314)

  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg) Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) 1h (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/384392608350367744)
 Launch was good. All satellites deployed at the targeted orbit insertion vectors. pic.twitter.com/SUYMH7W9pH (http://t.co/SUYMH7W9pH)
 
 Retweeted by Jeff Foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust)
  View photo  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/384392608350367744)
[/li][/LIST]
[/li][/LIST]

Так целевая орбита или 160км недолёта?

Кто из них так знатно погадил на орбите?

ЦитироватьНу-и-ну пишет:
Так целевая орбита или 160км недолёта?

Маск выше говорит, что запуск был удачным. О каких 160 км идет речь?

Там уже 20 фрагментов на орбите. Если это было проитивоспутниковое испытание - тогда успех...

норад

2013-055A
1 39265U 13055A 13272.85377880 .00000274 -86037-6 00000+0 0 39
2 39265 80.9607 315.2920 0762239 146.7523 218.4501 14.26791779 22
2013-055B
1 39266U 13055B 13272.73291758 .00000052 00000-0 00000+0 0 17
2 39266 80.9894 315.0912 0808814 159.7618 299.6367 13.99585295 12
2013-055C
1 39267U 13055C 13272.73944759 .00000250 -78300-6 00000+0 0 19
2 39267 81.0045 315.1067 0822617 156.4148 336.6014 14.05660420 17
2013-055D
1 39268U 13055D 13272.73651257 .00000033 00000-0 00000+0 0 12
2 39268 80.9867 315.2164 0705719 156.2385 321.6495 13.92817917 18
2013-055E
1 39269U 13055E 13272.73903294 .00000256 -80333-6 00000+0 0 15
2 39269 81.0022 315.1324 0827176 154.7491 336.9461 14.08937714 12
2013-055F
1 39270U 13055F 13272.73685377 .00000266 -83359-6 00000+0 0 18
2 39270 81.0145 314.8675 0848817 153.3629 327.6281 14.13250891 15
2013-055G
1 39271U 13055G 13272.73704787 .00000033 00000-0 00000+0 0 13
2 39271 80.9876 315.1956 0693087 153.5198 327.9211 13.93734602 11
2013-055H
1 39272U 13055H 13272.73867294 .00000261 -81734-6 00000+0 0 10
2 39272 80.9802 315.1716 0792081 151.5003 339.2848 14.13383880 15
2013-055I
1 39273U 13055I 13272.73796288 .00000050 00000-0 00000+0 0 11
2 39273 80.9659 315.4005 0749385 152.1220 334.9297 14.07859459 10
2013-055J
1 39274U 13055J 13272.73674753 .00000043 00000-0 00000+0 0 16
2 39274 80.9860 315.3254 0713204 152.1704 328.9173 14.05857653 16
2013-055K
1 39275U 13055K 13272.73695910 .00000264 -82861-6 00000+0 0 12
2 39275 81.0349 314.8767 0781178 151.0595 331.8537 14.15533443 11
2013-055L
1 39276U 13055L 13272.73809916 .00000052 00000-0 00000+0 0 19
2 39276 80.9815 315.3245 0731330 149.9841 338.7946 14.12223688 14
2013-055M
1 39277U 13055M 13272.73613580 .00000026 00000-0 00000+0 0 11
2 39277 80.9873 315.2314 0773517 167.2207 302.7300 13.65357767 15
2013-055N
1 39278U 13055N 13272.73591933 .00000029 00000-0 00000+0 0 12
2 39278 80.9873 315.1761 0805228 168.0183 301.3080 13.69382508 13
2013-055O
1 39279U 13055O 13272.73637155 .00000035 00000-0 00000+0 0 17
2 39279 80.9761 315.2603 0835906 167.5367 304.8512 13.74704387 17
2013-055P
1 39280U 13055P 13272.73627777 .00000034 00000-0 00000+0 0 17
2 39280 80.9908 315.1503 0832651 167.4487 304.5572 13.74732208 12
2013-055Q
1 39281U 13055Q 13272.73595337 .00000034 00000-0 00000+0 0 14
2 39281 80.9718 315.2380 0824620 167.6411 302.7380 13.75981885 17
2013-055R
1 39282U 13055R 13272.73607350 .00000040 00000-0 00000+0 0 11
2 39282 80.9974 315.1204 0842506 169.4264 302.0242 13.83640861 09
2013-055S
1 39283U 13055S 13272.73583197 .00000032 00000-0 00000+0 0 15
2 39283 80.9816 315.2357 0813478 165.0347 304.6017 13.72390151 16
2013-055T
1 39284U 13055T 13272.73647176 .00000032 00000-0 00000+0 0 14
2 39284 80.9878 315.1596 0804020 167.0463 305.9289 13.74919911 11

[свернуть]

Как я понял, управляемый спуск получился не совсем управляемым?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z48ziaJ9RVg

http://www.reddit.com/r/Astronomy/comments/1ne46k/saw_this_tonight_in_reunion_island_what_is_it/

Цитироватьrocketwikkit (http://www.reddit.com/user/rocketwikkit) 27 очков 8 часов назад*
Spacex had a launch into polar orbit, and tried and failed to re-light the second stage. When that happens it usually makes a cloud from propellant leaking out.
Was it going due north or south?
Edit: Ok, so the DANDE satellite posted TLE (http://spacegrant.colorado.edu/boulderstudents/boulderprojects/dande) (two line orbital elements) which makes it possible to track the satellite. It was one of the ones launched on the Falcon 9, and it should be relatively close to the upper stage.
The TLE was malformed, which was a pain, but after fixing them I got GPREDICT to open them. GPREDICT is an open source satellite tracker, used mostly by amateur radio people to talk to amateur radio satellites.
Opened the DANDE elements file, set GPREDICT to show its current location, then rewound time to see if it would have been visible from Eastern Africa.
Indeed it was! Goes nearly straight over Reunion Island. Looks like we have a winner. That cloud is almost definitely propellant from the Falcon 9 upper stage after it failed to restart the engine.
Edit 2: Wrote up my results and included pictures: http://wikkit.tumblr.com/post/62684205892/tracking-a-new-space-ufo (http://wikkit.tumblr.com/post/62684205892/tracking-a-new-space-ufo)
Was it highest in the sky right near 9PM? Did it go from south to north? Can you link to more photos you have seen?

http://wikkit.tumblr.com/post/62684205892/tracking-a-new-space-ufo

ЦитироватьBen Brockert's Broken Rockin' Rocket Blog (http://wikkit.tumblr.com/)
Sep 29 (http://wikkit.tumblr.com/day/2013/09/29)          
                                                           
Tracking a New Space UFO
             
Reddit user p0nette posted this (http://www.reddit.com/r/Astronomy/comments/1ne46k/saw_this_tonight_in_reunion_island_what_is_it/) image to Imgur and Reddit with the question "Saw this tonight in Reunion Island, what is it ??!" (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28393.jpg) (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28393.jpg)
Here's a full-size crop of the cloud:
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89250.png)
If your geography is as rusty as mine was, Réunion is a French island in the Indian ocean off the east coast of Madagascar. I wondered if the image might be related to today's Falcon 9 launch.
When an upper stage doesn't work correctly in space, it often leaves an interesting display. The unburned propellant creates a cloud in space that can reflect sunlight and be visible over a huge area. A previous SpaceX launch caused reports of a UFO (http://www.space.com/8546-ufo-spotted-australia-private-rocket.html) over Australia.
Could p0nette's object be the upper stage of the Falcon 9 that was launched this morning? I think it is.
In the press conference after the launch, Elon Musk said that SpaceX attempted a relight of upper stage but encountered an anomaly. So it certainly could have left a cloud of propellant floating in space.
One of the missions on the Falcon 9 was DANDE, the Drag and Atmospheric Neutral Density Explorer (http://spacegrant.colorado.edu/boulderstudents/boulderprojects/dande), designed and built here in Colorado. They posted "Two Line Elements" to their website after the launch, which give the orbital information of the satellite. While the satellite and upper stage will drift apart over time, early in their orbits they should be fairly close together.
With the orbit data we can rewind time using Alexandru Csete's software Gpredict (http://gpredict.oz9aec.net/) and find the course that DANDE, and the upper stage, flew over. The rocket launched at 16:00 UTC, here it is just after launch at 16:09 UTC:
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89251.png) (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89251.png)
Here it is an hour and a minute after launch, after it flew south over Antarctica and then north up the other side of the world:
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89252.png) (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/89252.png)
The yellow circle represents the area over which it could be seen above the horizon. From Réunion, it would have been almost directly overhead, and would have taken some time to cross the sky. Réunion's time zone is UTC+4, so it would have been 9:01 PM local time when it was highest in the sky.
I haven't yet gotten confirmation from the original poster as to when it passed and what direction it was traveling, but this seems like the most likely candidate for the source of the cloud. I'll update further when I find out more.
If you've seen more images of the cloud or have questions, please contact me at wikkit@gmail.com .

http://imgur.com/eaKgem0
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28393.jpg)

ЦитироватьLL пишет:
Там уже 20 фрагментов на орбите. Если это было проитивоспутниковое испытание - тогда успех...

Логично предположить, что это вторая ступень нагадила.

ЦитироватьАлександр Ч. пишет:

ЦитироватьLL пишет:
Там уже 20 фрагментов на орбите. Если это было проитивоспутниковое испытание - тогда успех...

Логично предположить, что это вторая ступень нагадила.

А откуда взялась информация насчет  20 фрагментов?

Цитироватьcross-track пишет:
А откуда взялась информация насчет 20 фрагментов?

Со SpaceTrack.
Сейчас нет возможности глянуть, но тогда я был не единственный, кто это заметил, например, (быстро нагуглил) http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1595
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/28394.png)

ЦитироватьАлександр Ч. пишет:

Цитироватьcross-track пишет:
А откуда взялась информация насчет 20 фрагментов?

Со SpaceTrack.
Сейчас нет возможности глянуть, но тогда я был не единственный, кто это заметил, например, (быстро нагуглил)

По Вашей ссылке:

ЦитироватьNormally, SpaceTrack would expect to be listing the six released satellite combinations, the rocket body and maybe a couple of debris items. A few hours after launch, the catalogue was showing 20 items in a scatter of orbit, indicating an explosion.

Правильно ли я понимаю, что 20 - это общее число объектов? Из них 6 спутников плюс последняя ступень?

видео от spacex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU7Li5rX_OQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU7Li5rX_OQ)

Что комментатор говорит в самом конце видео, после "Approaching SECO 1"?

Цитироватьcross-track пишет:
Правильно ли я понимаю, что 20 - это общее число объектов? Из них 6 спутников плюс последняя ступень?

Формально да. Надо подождать.

Так какой в итоге статус запуска? Успешный или нет? С аппаратами связь установлена? Орбиты расчетные?

С Кассиопой связь подтвердили. Откуда 20 фрагментов и что взорвалось - неясно. По наклонению ошиблись на градус. Вроде, так.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Так какой в итоге статус запуска? Успешный или нет?

Все аппараты выведены на орбиту. Однако одна из задач пуска (повторный запуск маршевого двигателя второй ступени с целью демонстрации вывода на ГПО без полезной нагрузки) не выполнена и видимо попытка запуска двигателя привела к его разрушению.

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
С аппаратами связь установлена?

Да!

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:
Орбиты расчетные?

Для начала надо разобраться в той каше, которая образовалась на околоземной орбите после этого пуска и иденфицировать все объекты.

ЦитироватьSalo пишет: Однако одна из задач пуска (повторный запуск маршевого двигателя второй ступени с целью демонстрации вывода на ГПО без полезной нагрузки) не выполнена и видимо попытка запуска двигателя привела к его разрушению.

Не, ну они крутые, т.е. планируется вывод на ГПО без разгонника, силами второго включения  второй ступени Фалькона 1.1.? Если ТМИ получена, то это уже повод им "пофилосовствовать"

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьSalo пишет: Однако одна из задач пуска (повторный запуск маршевого двигателя второй ступени с целью демонстрации вывода на ГПО без полезной нагрузки) не выполнена и видимо попытка запуска двигателя привела к его разрушению.

Не, ну они крутые, т.е. планируется вывод на ГПО без разгонника, силами второго включения второй ступени Фалькона 1.1.? Если ТМИ получена, то это уже повод им "пофилосовствовать"

 а почему нет? как-то ведь считали, что двухспенчатая РН самая эффективная по массе, или нет?
 ну и количество потребных двигателей минимум на один меньше) хотя конечно баки весят... вот только
 сколько лишней сухой массы?

Douglas Messier ‏@spacecom (mailto:@spacecom)
SpaceX just pinged me and said there's no reason to believe second stage exploded as speculated here: http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1595 (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1595)

Кстати предыдущая попытка повторного включения МД второй ступени не состоялась по причине отказа двигателя первой ступени и посему недостаточного количества топлива для выполнения этого манёвра.
А первая попытка из трёх состоялась во втором пуске F9 v1.0. Рапортовали о полном успехе.

ЦитироватьPyhesty пишет:а почему нет? как-то ведь считали, что двухспенчатая РН самая эффективная по массе, или нет?
 ну и количество потребных двигателей минимум на один меньше) хотя конечно баки весят... вот только
 сколько лишней сухой массы?

Начнем с того, что я своей цели достиг. Пользователи с датой регистрации аж 2006 года начали возвращаться на форум  ;)

Маск лучший еще и в деле генерации космического мусора! :)

ЦитироватьPyhesty пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьSalo пишет: Однако одна из задач пуска (повторный запуск маршевого двигателя второй ступени с целью демонстрации вывода на ГПО без полезной нагрузки) не выполнена и видимо попытка запуска двигателя привела к его разрушению.

Не, ну они крутые, т.е. планируется вывод на ГПО без разгонника, силами второго включения второй ступени Фалькона 1.1.? Если ТМИ получена, то это уже повод им "пофилосовствовать"

а почему нет? как-то ведь считали, что двухспенчатая РН самая эффективная по массе, или нет?
 ну и количество потребных двигателей минимум на один меньше) хотя конечно баки весят... вот только
 сколько лишней сухой массы?

Для ГПО самое то это 3 ступени. Особенно если без водорода.

Цитироватьinstml пишет:
Маск лучший еще и в деле генерации космического мусора!  :)

Да вот щазз... Куда ему в этом деле до китайцев? Да хоть бы даже до нас?

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:

Цитироватьinstml пишет:
Маск лучший еще и в деле генерации космического мусора!  :)  

Да вот щазз... Куда ему в этом деле до китайцев? Да хоть бы даже до нас?

Насколько я помню рекорд всётаки у частников: взрыв пегасовской ступени HAPS. Ну по крайней мере второе место точно.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Ну по крайней мере второе место точно.

Я бы не зарекался: Феньюнь и иридиум+космос точно претендуют на первые места.

ЦитироватьG.K. пишет:

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Ну по крайней мере второе место точно.

Я бы не зарекался: Феньюнь и иридиум+космос точно претендуют на первые места.

Ну ладно, почётное третье место. :) Место на пьедестале. :) 
 По моему у Иридиума/Форпоста фрагментов не так уж много.

Нашли чем мериться...

Цитироватьinstml пишет:

ЦитироватьPyhesty пишет:

ЦитироватьLRV_75 пишет:

ЦитироватьSalo пишет: Однако одна из задач пуска (повторный запуск маршевого двигателя второй ступени с целью демонстрации вывода на ГПО без полезной нагрузки) не выполнена и видимо попытка запуска двигателя привела к его разрушению.

Не, ну они крутые, т.е. планируется вывод на ГПО без разгонника, силами второго включения второй ступени Фалькона 1.1.? Если ТМИ получена, то это уже повод им "пофилосовствовать"

а почему нет? как-то ведь считали, что двухспенчатая РН самая эффективная по массе, или нет?
 ну и количество потребных двигателей минимум на один меньше) хотя конечно баки весят... вот только
 сколько лишней сухой массы?

Для ГПО самое то это 3 ступени. Особенно если без водорода.

   лучшее враг хорошего... двигатель весит 630кг - это около 5% забрасываемой на опорную массы, а ещё нужна обвязка и элементы стыковки, если они смогли сделать баки второй ступени хотя бы не более тонны (что вероятно), то выйгрыш очевиден, помноженный на простоту, так тем более.
 сорри я не смог найти сухую массу второй ступени...

И все это добро выпадет на Лос-Анджелес. Отличные мишени для тренировки национальной ПРО  :)

А частнику то как повезло - если местные административные органы не съедят живьем, то придется продать за долги и домашних животных и жену...  :)

Предупреждение за глупый троллинг. -- Liss, модератор

ЦитироватьLL пишет:
 придется продать за долги и домашних животных и жену...  :)

Кто ж её купит...

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:

ЦитироватьLL пишет:
 придется продать за долги и домашних животных и жену...  :)  

Кто ж её купит...

Дык, он, вроде, сейчас не женат. А предыдущая жена была ничего, желающие купить бы нашлись. :)

А вообще, для первого пуска новой ракеты всё очень круто, мои поздравления. Теперь можно начинать гадать, когда полетит Falcon Heavy.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/ufo-over-indian-ocean-spacex-falcon-9-rocket-sparks-sightings-4B11297922
http://youtu.be/b6CBEYht3ws (http://youtu.be/b6CBEYht3ws)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/statuses/384437535348248576

ЦитироватьDebbie Viviers ‏@DebbieViviers  (https://twitter.com/DebbieViviers)  29 сентября (https://twitter.com/DebbieViviers/status/384421362766323712)  @elonmusk (https://twitter.com/elonmusk) @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) Would have been gr8 if Africa was forewarned! Our #UFO (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23UFO&src=hash) experts are on high alert. That was the Falcon wasn't it??
 
  Подробнее  (https://twitter.com/DebbieViviers/status/384421362766323712)
 
  (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/88653.jpg) Elon MuskПодлинная учётная запись ‏@elonmusk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk)
 
 @DebbieViviers (https://twitter.com/DebbieViviers) @SpaceX (https://twitter.com/SpaceX) Yes, upper stage venting of liquid oxygen created a fast moving fuzzy white sphere in space over SA

По-моему эту ссылку здесь еще не выкладывали:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3K8jJUshx8#t=74 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3K8jJUshx8#t=74)
Спейсексовское 56 минутное видео пуска. Правда, первые 3 минуты почему-то без звука. :(

http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37498no-upper-stage-explosion-after-falcon-9-v11-launch-spacex-says

ЦитироватьNo Upper-stage Explosion after Falcon 9 v1.1 Launch, SpaceX Says

  By Dan Leone | Oct. 1, 2013  
 
   WASHINGTON — Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) issued a statement Oct. 1 denying speculation that the upper stage of its Falcon 9 v1.1. rocket exploded on orbit following the rocket's successful demonstration launch (http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/37450upgraded-falcon-9-rocket-successfully-debuts-from-vandenberg) Sept. 29 from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.
The speculation was spawned in part by the fact that the U.S. Space Surveillance Network is currently tracking more orbital objects associated with the launch than expected.
In its maiden launch, the Falcon 9 v1.1 carried the Canadian Space Agency's Cassiope space weather satellite and three secondary payloads to low Earth orbit. The launch was a trial for the upgraded rocket — the Falcon 9 v1.1 features a stretched fuel tank, new engines and a 5.2-meter-diameter fairing — that SpaceX now hopes to use to launch commercial communications satellites to geostationary orbit.
The SES-8 satellite owned by SES of Luxembourg, would be the first of these. It is tentatively scheduled to launch in October from the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. However, that launch may be delayed as SpaceX investigates why a planned reignition of the second stage following deployment of the payloads could not be completed.
"Regarding the rumors you may have heard about the Falcon 9 second stage, in short, our data confirms there was no rupture of any kind on the second stage," SpaceX spokeswoman Emily Shanklin wrote in an Oct. 1 email. "Following separation of the satellites to their correct orbit, the Falcon 9 second stage underwent a controlled venting of propellants ... and the stage was successfully safed. During this process, it is possible insulation came off the fuel dome on the second stage and is the source of what some observers incorrectly interpreted as a rupture in the second stage."
SpaceX attempted to reignite the upper stage after payload separation in a demonstration of a capability it will need to place satellites into the proper geostationary transfer orbit. However, the reignition sequence was aborted after a problem was detected, SpaceX Chief Executive Elon Musk told reporters in a postlaunch teleconference.
Following the launch, an eyewitness in Reunion Island off the eastern coast of Madagascar posted a photograph on the website Reddit of what amateur astronomers later determined was a cloud of rocket propellent surrounding the spent Falcon 9 1.1 upper stage. By Sept. 30, the U.S Air Force-run Space Surveillance System was tracking 20 objects associated with the launch in low Earth orbit. Experts were expecting to see 11 objects, including Cassiope; the three secondary payloads, one of which released seven independently flying objects; and the upper stage.
SpaceX's explanation of events is copied below:
Following separation of the satellites to their correct orbit, the Falcon 9 second stage underwent a controlled venting of propellants (fuel and pressure were released from the tank) and the stage was successfully safed. During this process, it is possible insulation came off the fuel dome on the second stage and is the source of what some observers incorrectly interpreted as a rupture in the second stage. This material would be in several pieces and be reflective in the Space Track radar. It is also possible the debris came from the student satellite separation mechanisms onboard.
SpaceX will continue to review to help identify the source of the extra debris, but our data confirms there was no rupture of any kind on the second stage.

ЦитироватьDuring this process, it is possible insulation came off the fuel dome on the second stage and is the source of what some observers incorrectly interpreted as a rupture in the second stage. This material would be in several pieces and be reflective in the Space Track radar.

изоляция обрывалась каждый раз при вентиляции? это возможно?
и при этом не оторвалась при работающем двигателе?

ЦитироватьIt is also possible the debris came from the student satellite separation mechanisms onboard.

более вероятно, мне кажется... там есть чему отвалиться достаточного размера?

Что-то апогей у "отвалившейся изоляции" изрядно различен. Что там - 200 км разницы? Нефигово она "отваливалась", разве что - в процессе разгона, по пути.

Вот про студенческий спутник верю. Что они там наструячили - вопрос.

ЦитироватьНу-и-ну пишет:
Что-то апогей у "отвалившейся изоляции" изрядно различен. Что там - 200 км разницы? Нефигово она "отваливалась", разве что - в процессе разгона, по пути.

Вот про студенческий спутник верю. Что они там наструячили - вопрос.

FAA или кто там, с ними разбираться будут...
Либо лицензии лишат, либо таких исков навыкатывают, что очень долго расплачиваться будут...Хотя одно другому и не мешает.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:04ce340e-4b63-4d23-9695-d49ab661f385&plckPostId=Blog%3a04ce340e-4b63-4d23-9695-d49ab661f385Post%3a59d72274-2bb3-4d33-aa94-fd879fe649b2

Цитировать SES Reviewing Falcon 9 Upper Stage Reignition Abort Ahead of SES-8 Launch
 
 Posted by Amy Svitak 1:38 PM on Oct 02, 2013  
  SpaceX says its Falcon 9 v1.1 upper stage aborted an attempted reignition of the new Merlin vacuum engine during Monday's debut of the upgraded rocket. Second-stage reignition is necessary for Falcon 9 to deliver payloads to geostationary transfer orbit (GTO). 

"The second-stage engine initiated ignition, got up to about 400 psi, encountered a condition it didn't like and initiated an abort," SpaceX spokeswoman Emily Shanklin said Oct. 2. "We need more time to review the data before we come to any sort of definitive conclusion, but we are confident we will be able to address it before the next flight," she said, adding that the abort "wasn't anything fundamental" and that a planned late-October launch of the SES-8 satellite for Luxembourg fleet operator SES "is still on track to launch in about a month."

SES says it is now discussing the reignition abort with SpaceX ahead of the launch, which could also be delayed by the U.S. government shutdown as it affects operations at Cape Canaveral AFS, where the Orbital Sciences Corp.-built SES-8 spacecraft is to be launched.

Время все расставит по местам. Элон сказал, что куски изоляции легкие и должны быстро тормозиться. Уже через пару недель все станет ясно.

Еще одно видео пуска:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMG_d1WRiLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMG_d1WRiLw)
Без вырезов, почти без болтовни, но много "синего". Никаких особо новых кадров не заметил.

ЦитироватьПетр Зайцев пишет:
Время все расставит по местам. Элон сказал, что куски изоляции легкие и должны быстро тормозиться. Уже через пару недель все станет ясно.

А пока на zarya.info (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1604) размещен следующий текст:
       

ЦитироватьFalcon 9 Explosion – Upd ate
             
          Posted on 2013 October 7 (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1604)      
                     AS of October 7, SpaceTrack had provided element sets for twenty objects. All of which had their first data issued shortly after the September 29 launch. Ten of them only appeared once or twice during the first 24 hours and are no longer being upd ated, the remainder have received updated se ts during the week that has followed since.
Of the updated items, two are exhibiting rapid orbital decay and will probably have re-entered by the time this article appears. Another three are decaying nearly as quickly but will probably last about another week before re-entry (the missing ten may have decayed too quickly for Space Command to find them a second time). The other five are maintaining their orbits but the spread of data on three of them indicates that tracking sensors do not have a particularly good 'lock' on them.
At the start, they showed a scatter in apogee between 1350 and 1654 km and in perigee between 235 and 415 km. Inclinations varied between 80°.94 and 81°.04. Obviously, with the rapid orbital decay rates of some, the spread is now significantly greater.
Falcon 9
SpaceTrack has catalogued 2013-055G/39271 as the Falcon 9 rocket body and latest data show it in an orbit of 319 x 1489 km, 81°.0 inclination, very close to the 325 x 1500 km, 81° target orbit issued by SpaceX prior to launch.
The Payloads
The Catalogue does not yet contain separate identities for the payloads (http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Launches/Launches.php?year=2013#055) and, most unusually, they are not represented individually by any of the highly-scattered objects listed so far! There are more Objects to come.
SpaceTrack has issued Radar Cross Section measurements for all the fragments. Most values indicate that the objects are quite small with current values generally less than 1. They will change with time as the tracking systems get more readings.
There is a single, very obvious exception (2013-055B/39266) currently shown in an orbit having parameters within 1 km of the rocket body. Its RCS value is a massive 42.
At the moment, it seems to be a single entity that represents the payloads and their support equipment as one object. They are so close together that Space Command is not yet prepared to pass individual orbital datasets to SpaceTrack for publication. One thought process says that maybe they are too close together for them to be distinguished by tracking sensors. An alternative reason might be that the US military does not want to reveal precisely how good its sensors are. Either way we have to wait for Spacetrack to publish element se ts before we see actual orbits for the individual satellites.
Or do we.......
In the Seesat-L (http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Oct-2013/index.html) discussion forum, amateur satellite observer Greg Roberts of South Africa is providing a steady stream of observations that show the six individual payloads and just how close together they are.
The Fragments
The scattered nature of the objects catalogued so far indicates that they have arrived in their individual orbits as the result of an explosive event. Whether by it was a conventional explosion or caused by rupture of a pressurised object can probably only be answered by SpaceX, the rocket manufacturer, because the Falcon 9 is highly likely to be the culprit. Of the debris, most of it is in orbits with a lower inclination than the Falcon 9 upper stage indicating that it was blasted sideways. The up and down distribution would have been caused by the debris spreading in a fan of sideways directions as it was ejected.
The Falcon 9 was to have executed a sideways manoeuvre after it released the payloads but the rocket firing was aborted. SpaceX says simply that the rocket motor ceased its ignition routine when the chamber pressure reached 400 pounds per square inch (apologies for the units). Combined with the evidence of an the orbital debris, it leads to the question of whether there was an explosive loss of pressure. SpaceX's next customer is slightly worried (http://spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/007/131005shipment/#.UlJy31PTRv8) by events.
SpaceX
After the original zary.info Blog entry (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1595) was published, the SpacePolicyOnline.com (http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/) website asked a question of SpaceX concerning the possible explosion. The response was "....Following separation of the satellites to their correct orbit, the Falcon 9 second stage underwent a controlled venting of propellants (fuel and pressure were released from the tank) and the stage was successfully safed. During this process, it is possible insulation came off the fuel dome on the second stage and is the source of what some observers incorrectly interpreted as a rupture in the second stage. This material would be in several pieces and be reflective in the Space Track radar. It is also possible the debris came from the student satellite separation mechanisms onboard....."
If this were true then the "insulation material" would initially in a similar orbit to the rocket but the orbits would decay rapidly because of the low density of the material. The statement makes no reference to the failed rocket ignition as a possible factor and given the closely bunched nature of the payload orbits, their separation mechanisms are probably still to be catalogued and are not likely to be among the debris.
Some of the material is in rapidly decaying orbits but the starting point was a spread of orbit heights averaging 100km either side of the rocket, indicating that they were blasted away at up to 50 metres per second – not exactly a gentle separation. Four items are in relatively stable orbits indicating something more dense, maybe pieces of dense plastic, metal or ceramic.
Futures
SpaceX may release more information as time goes on but it will probably be in response to pressure from potential customers. Zarya.info has on several occasions posed direct questions via e-mail to SpaceX about discrepancies in earlier missions' detail it has never once responded. As a result, those discrepancies remain on file and suspicions grow of cover-ups.
The company has a loyal and appreciative fan base among the public and it is not treating them as intelligent people by feeding them only the good news, hoping they wont spot the problems!
          
           This entry was posted in SpaceX (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?cat=46), USA (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?cat=23) and tagged Cassiope (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?tag=cassiope), CUSat (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?tag=cusat), DANDE (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?tag=dande), Falcon (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?tag=falcon), POPACS (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?tag=popacs), SpaceX (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?tag=spacex) by Robert Christy (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?author=1). Bookmark the permalink (http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=1604).                

Вроде бы CUSat 1 и CUSat 2 не было, полетел один КА "CUSat".

Обновленные фотки
http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/profile/ (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/profile/)

Цитироватьche wi пишет:
Вроде бы CUSat 1 и CUSat 2 не было, полетел один КА "CUSat".

Дык там два спутника в состыкованном состоянии, потом они должны расстыковаться и начать хоровод - как у FASTRAC в свое время было.

Какусат...

Обновленные фотки по пуску

http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/profile/ (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/profile/)

Цитироватьigorvs пишет:
Обновленные фотки по пуску

 http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/spacecoaster1/profile/

Заодно и ни разу не использовавшийся старт F1 на SLC-3W отсняли. 8)

Похоже 2-ю ступень, таки, разорвало к ..еням.

...below is a snapshot of 27 objects currently associated with launch 2013-055 (but this time without reference to previous epochs of objects with the same catalog ID).

 catID   label       obj.  peri x apo [km]
39247*  F9 R/B DEB   W?   715    732?
39265   CASSIOPE     A    325   1486
39266   CUSAT 1      B    325   1483
39267   DANDE        C    325   1485
39268   POPACS 1     D    325   1480
39269   POPACS 2     E    324   1482
39270   POPACS 3     F    325   1481
39271   CUSAT 2/F9   G    319   1488
39272   F9 Deb       H    253    756
39273   F9 Deb       J    197    301
39274   F9 Deb       K    433   1283
39275   F9 Deb       L    406    649
39276   F9 Deb       M    403   1180
39277   F9 Deb       N    460   1398
39278   F9 Deb       P    468   1393
39279   F9 Deb       Q    429   1173
39280   F9 Deb       R    325   1472
39281   F9 Deb       S    239    466
39282   F9 Deb       T    301    545
39283   F9 Deb       U    492    630
39284   F9 Deb       V    380    803
39288   F9 Deb       W    404   1398
39289   F9 Deb       X    354    699
39290   F9 Deb       Y    325   1473
39291   F9 Deb       Z    322   1484
39292   F9 Deb       AA   323   1474
39293   F9 Deb       AB   325   1472

Мда... Это наборы от какого числа?

Стопроцентный повод для жалобы в ООН на США и фирму Маска. :)

39273, 39275, 39282 уже выпали в осадок...

Цитироватьilan пишет:
Заодно и ни разу не использовавшийся старт F1 на SLC-3W отсняли.  8)

На нем прожигали "Ф-1".

Цитироватьche wi пишет:
Вроде бы CUSat 1 и CUSat 2 не было, полетел один КА "CUSat".

Полетели оба, но живой только один. Второй после виброиспытаний представляет собой высокотехнологичный баласт ;)

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
Какусат...

Ага, причем там один кусат, а другой просто кака ;)

Хотя с недельным опозданием, но выложили-таки новое видео:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDbDMRG3q8
с периодическими врезками высота-скорость.
С 2:40 видео - первое повторное включение первой ступени со входом в атмосферу. В конце (к 3:02) уже ничего не видно из-за капелек конденсата. Дальше - два фрагмента со второй ступенью.
Примерная последовательность по времени в кадре:
16:03:02 - разделение ступеней
16:03:08 - включение второй ступени
16:03:48 - сброс ГО
16:07:49 - первое повторное включение 1 ступени. При снижении с 62 до 52 км скорость (согласно врезке) подозрительно постоянная - 6814 км/ч
16:08:12 - пропадание изображения из-за конденсата
16:10:24 - вторая ступень на орбите H=329 км, V=28621 км/ч
16:10:33 - пропадание сигнала
16:36:22 - восстановление сигнала со второй ступени над Антарктидой H=1022 км, V=25961 км/ч

Итоговое видео, с возвратом ступени
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDbDMRG3q8&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDbDMRG3q8&feature=player_embedded)

И ничего толком не понятно...
Видно что было зажигание и факел не задуло, а как шмякнулась не показали...

Думаю камеру забило конденсатом с копотью от двигателя. продукты сгорания набегающий поток проносит вдоль всего корпуса. Теперь, что бы что то увидеть нужно камеру разворачивать на 180 градусов.

Посмотрел, как USSPACECOM выдавал элементы на объекты от запуска "Фолкона". Барда-ак... Достаточно сказать, что данные на шесть спутников за 29-30 сентября просто с потолка и не имеют никакой связи с тем, что появилось по состоянию на 7-10 октября. А после этого все довольно чистенько и аккуратно, если не считать взаимных обменов 39266 <-> 39271 и 39268 <-> 39274 и неоднократной смены буквенных обозначений при сохранении номеров.
Общее количество объектов даже не 26, а больше, потому что объекты 39274, 39275, 39276, 39279 и 39280 (первоначальные J, K, L, O и P) перестали отслеживаться после 1-3 октября, и их номера достались кому-то другому. Как вариант, изначально под этими номерами отслеживались фантомы, как и в случае спутников.

Весь зоопарк делится на четыре условные группы:
(1) Объекты со стабильной высотой (т.е. очень медленным торможением), в окончательных обозначениях -- от 39265 (A) до 39272 (G). Из них только ступень G устойчиво наблюдалась с 29 сентября.
(2) Объекты, снижающиеся очень медленно (порядка 1 км апогея в сутки) -- 39280 ( R), 39290 (Y), 39291 (Z), 39292 (AA) и 39293 (AB). Эти похожи на операционные фрагменты, отделенные спутниками в процессе работы.
(3) Объекты, снижающиеся быстро (порядка 10-15 км апогея в сутки) -- 39274 (K), 39277 (N), 39278 (P) и 39279 (Q).
(4) Объекты, снижающиеся очень быстро (вплоть до схода с орбиты за неделю-две) -- 39272 (H), 39273 (I?!), 39276 (M), 39281 (S), 39282 (T), 39283 (U) и 39284 (V).
Разница между (3) и (4) может быть обусловлена начальной высотой перигея.
Остальные не могут быть классифицированы из-за недостатка надежных определений орбиты.

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:
Посмотрел, как USSPACECOM выдавал элементы на объекты от запуска "Фолкона". Барда-ак...

Скромно напомню об аналогичных случаях с отечественных пусках когда ( если отслеживать по коспар-номеру) объект с ГПО может слетать на ГСО и упасть обратно.  :evil:
А уж про Интеграл, который со своей орбиты на один день слетал на ГСО и вернулся обратно. 

Случаи перетасовки номеров и объектов не рассматриваем как тривиальные.
Случайную выдачу под определенным номером чужих элементов -- тоже.
Тут хуже -- типа обнаруженные и сопровождаемые объекты пропадают внафиг и не возникают уже ни под каким номером :-)

Согласен, давненько такого бардака на спейстреке не было.

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:
перестали отслеживаться после 1-3 октября, и их номера достались кому-то другому. Как вариант, изначально под этими номерами отслеживались фантомы, как и в случае спутников.

Ны дык барьер-то отключили, то ли 1 сентября, то ли 1 октября... Результат налицо. Ничего, вот в ноябре "Минотавр" с "Днепром" полетят, вот там, чувствую, совсем интересно будет.

ЦитироватьSharicoff пишет:
 Результат налицо.

Там на следующем цигнусе вроде 26 или 28 одинаковых мелкоспутников запустить хотят  :)  Это то же будет достойно.

ЦитироватьSharicoff пишет:
 Ничего, вот в ноябре "Минотавр" с "Днепром" полетят, вот там, чувствую, совсем интересно будет.

Можно смело создавать тему "адские глюки или месть отключенного барьера"  :)
Поток "веселья" точно будет долгим.

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:
Тут хуже -- типа обнаруженные и сопровождаемые объекты пропадают внафиг и не возникают уже ни под каким номером :-)

Мда....

Я по прежнему не понял, так какой вывод сделали уважаемые старожилы форума, изучая USSPACECOM каталог? Разорвало ли вторую ступень Фалкана-9, как намекают злопыхатели, или это была изоляция с баков, как утверждал Маск?

ЦитироватьBenny пишет:
Я по прежнему не понял, так какой вывод сделали уважаемые старожилы форума, изучая USSPACECOM каталог? Разорвало ли вторую ступень Фалкана-9, как намекают злопыхатели, или это была изоляция с баков, как утверждал Маск?

А этого наверно точно никто не скажет , то что там есть фрагменты от ПН, точнее от её упаковки, как пишет Liss это наверно точно, но интересно почему об этом ничего не сказали соколовы работники, может для них это неожиданность, должны ли быть там фрагменты от ступени не знаю, но судя видео, где топливо вылетает должны, да и изоляция с баков, это что не фрагменты или их просто случайно подцепили , а потом увидили что летят и решили там на орбите оставить, чтоб не мешали, или они и так по конструкции должны отлетать каждый раз

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:
Случаи перетасовки номеров и объектов не рассматриваем как тривиальные.
Случайную выдачу под определенным номером чужих элементов -- тоже.
Тут хуже -- типа обнаруженные и сопровождаемые объекты пропадают внафиг и не возникают уже ни под каким номером

А вот интересно сколько интересно наши объектов видят или другие подобные организации, а то кажется при такой путанице их на самом деле поболее будет

Компоновку "головы" (как именно были установлены на ступень все компоненты ПН) в этом запуске, как я понимаю, никто не видел?

ЦитироватьLiss пишет:

(2) Объекты, снижающиеся очень медленно (порядка 1 км апогея в сутки) -- 39280 ( R), 39290 (Y), 39291 (Z), 39292 (AA) и 39293 (AB). Эти похожи на операционные фрагменты, отделенные спутниками в процессе работы.
(3) Объекты, снижающиеся быстро (порядка 10-15 км апогея в сутки) -- 39274 (K), 39277 (N), 39278 (P) и 39279 (Q).

Должны как-то выделяться четыре проставки от POPACS'ов:

(https://forum.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/file/24329)

Извините хотелось узнать что-то там радикально по количеству изменилось

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/403753325201350657

Цитировать (https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/90494.jpg) Peter B. de Selding ‏@pbdes (https://twitter.com/pbdes)
SpaceX Falcon 9 flight Sept 29 upper-stage non-re-ignition caused by frozen fuel lines after O2 exposure. Insulation added for next flight.
 
 21 ноября 13 в 9:14 после полудня

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic13332/message1160169/?result=edit#message1160169

Цитировать"The igniter fluid lines froze after longer exposure to cold oxygen," SpaceX said. "This never happened on the ground because ambient air kept the lines warm. We've added insulation and made sure that cold oxygen can't impinge on the lines."