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Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: David Lee Rickman от 03.09.2010 05:57:53
Questions about the KRECHET 94:

1: One of the more popular images from Apollo 11 is the "Footprint on the Moon". What was the pattern on the bottom of the soles of the KRECHET-94 boots (that is to say, what would the footprints of a soviet lunar cosmonaut have looked like)? The boots appear to be similar to the ORLAN boots, but wouldn't there have been a tread similar to the planetary suit later designed by Zvezda?

2: In order to keep the stable balance of the LK, a series of straps would have been used to hold the cosmonaut in the optimum position. Where were they straps located, how where these straps attached between the cosmonaut and LK, and how many straps would there have been?

Thanks,

David L. Rickman
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: Petrovich от 02.09.2010 23:32:57
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(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/63064.jpg)
(http://s48.radikal.ru/i120/1009/e0/a226aa234a37.jpg)
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: Johannes от 03.09.2010 11:15:21
ЦитироватьQuestions about the KRECHET 94:
[...]
2: In order to keep the stable balance of the LK, a series of straps would have been used to hold the cosmonaut in the optimum position. Where were they straps located, how where these straps attached between the cosmonaut and LK, and how many straps would there have been?
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Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: David Lee Rickman от 04.09.2010 02:38:34
Very Good! Thank you, Gentlemen! :D

So now there is only one question remaining:

What does the bottom of the Krechet-94 boot look like? Here is the Apollo Lunar Suit footprint:

(http://files.gereports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/footprint.jpg)

What would the soviet cosmonaut's "footprint" look like :?:

Many Thanks!

David L. Rickman
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: David Lee Rickman от 06.10.2011 07:37:22
This was shown in a short film about Guy Severin:


(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/20471.jpg)

Could this be the elusive "footprint of a soviet lunar cosmonaut" I've been looking for?

Regards,

David L. Rickman
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: m-s Gelezniak от 06.10.2011 17:54:56
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ЦитироватьQuestions about the KRECHET 94:
[...]
2: In order to keep the stable balance of the LK, a series of straps would have been used to hold the cosmonaut in the optimum position. Where were they straps located, how where these straps attached between the cosmonaut and LK, and how many straps would there have been?
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/63067.jpg) (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_054/pages/IMG_8972.html) (http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8151/krechet02.jpg) (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_054/pages/IMG_8976.html) (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1696/krechet03.jpg) (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_030/pages/IMG_3624.html)
Это упрощённый вариант фиксации скафандра. Отсутствуют факсаторы кистей и оно (крепление) не складывается.
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: David Lee Rickman от 07.10.2011 10:47:23
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Цитировать
ЦитироватьQuestions about the KRECHET 94:
[...]
2: In order to keep the stable balance of the LK, a series of straps would have been used to hold the cosmonaut in the optimum position. Where were they straps located, how where these straps attached between the cosmonaut and LK, and how many straps would there have been?
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/63067.jpg) (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_054/pages/IMG_8972.html) (http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8151/krechet02.jpg) (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_054/pages/IMG_8976.html) (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1696/krechet03.jpg) (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_030/pages/IMG_3624.html)
Это упрощённый вариант фиксации скафандра. Отсутствуют факсаторы кистей и оно (крепление) не складывается.

What about this seems wrong? These photos show that the Krechet-94 does have the fittings for such a brace:

(http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_030/images/IMG_3624.jpg)

(http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_030/images/IMG_3637.jpg)

And then in this photo we can see that the brace is in the correct place to connect with the suit:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6106/6218749360_3614a3833d_z.jpg)

And then finally, this photograph shows this brace was included in the final  version of the LK:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6218/6218757148_35284be724_z.jpg)

This leaves the cosmonauts hands free to work the controls.

From everything I've seen and read, this is correct. But I welcome any correction.

Best Regards,

David L. Rickman
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: m-s Gelezniak от 07.10.2011 08:50:21
Вот другой вариант:
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/64642.jpg) (http://www.radikal.ru)
PS Можно ещё раз поблагодарить Олега.
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: David Lee Rickman от 07.10.2011 18:22:52
ЦитироватьВот другой вариант:
(https://img.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/64642.jpg) (http://www.radikal.ru)
PS Можно ещё раз поблагодарить Олега.

Ahhh! I think I understand now. You were questioning the type of brace. This one from the LK at MAI Lab 601 is indeed different. But, this is also an older variant of the Lunniy Korabl.

I have found the key to dating these Lunniy Korabl based on construction variations. The Lunniy Korabl at Mozhaisy is newest LK available.  Whereas the MAI LK is the oldest. The LK at Orevo and the LK in the Tambov Oblast are the next oldest. The Korolev LK is irrelevant because it is a T2K with a different interior, although the main design of the cabin base construction is newer than the MAI, Orevo, or Tambov LK.

But, as I said, the Lunniy Korabl at Mozhaisy is the last one produced of these five. And although the interior is not complete, the base of it is the interior I am using.


(http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_054/images/IMG_8976.jpg)


But, yes, Thank you again, Oleg for supplying another photo! Every photo helps determine the total construction, and is valuable!

Best Regards,

David L. Rickman
Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: David Lee Rickman от 17.12.2011 15:31:45
The next question I have concerns power supply coming from the Krechet-94 Lunar Spacesuit.

The K2 Camera (16ЛК-К2) was a 16mm hand-held camera designed for use on the lunar surface. It would receive electrical power directly from the Krechet-94 via an external cable.

The Astro X was a hand-held 35mm stereo lens camera which also received its' power from the Krechet-94.

Where on the Krechet-94 is the attachment point for this electrical cable?

Best Regards,

David L. Rickman
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Название: KRECHET-94 Lunar Excursion Suit
Отправлено: m-s Gelezniak от 26.12.2011 20:54:10
ЦитироватьThe next question I have concerns power supply coming from the Krechet-94 Lunar Spacesuit.

The K2 Camera (16ЛК-К2) was a 16mm hand-held camera designed for use on the lunar surface. It would receive electrical power directly from the Krechet-94 via an external cable.

The Astro X was a hand-held 35mm stereo lens camera which also received its' power from the Krechet-94.

Where on the Krechet-94 is the attachment point for this electrical cable?

Best Regards,
Кречет имел блок электро-пневмо-гидроразъёмов для подключения к СЖО кабины ЛК.